Pentax World Global Shoot Day Oct 10
This seems interesting. Are PDMLers willing to play? ;-) http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2009/10/pentax-world-global-shoot-day-saturday.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My first blog (GESO)
Translation by Google Weather forecast was like in the middle of the tree. But what does it well when to engage with something fun, in good company with good food and drink? . Even Canonister without værtetting can have a good time when (as long as they do not throw up in spring the stones). MARK! (Getting on the quotes list is cooler). Tim Øsleby wrote: I've decided. Now it is time to become cool. So I've created a blog http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ First real post is in Norwegian. But I think you are able to read the pictures. Enjoy, and please feel free to leave a comment (Comments in English will make me even cooler). The pictures are from a journey with the local photo club to our surf paradise Hoddevikssanden. Every now and then I may post some PDML stuff here to. Time will tell. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Blurb 2.5
Just downloaded the newest version of Blurb's Booksmart. They now allow you to edit the standard layouts, and to save the edited version with a custom name so you can re-use it. This eliminates one of my major frustrations with the program. I feel inspired to get back to work on my Rome book! stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: turning my 50mm macro into a 100mm macro
The 105mm Series 1 Macro is the same as the Kiron 105mm macro and should sell for the same price (from what I've seen around $300). Another higher priced option that people seem to speak highly of is the Tamron SP 90mm macro. On 2/22/09, Christian wrote: > Larry Colen wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:13:20PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: >> >> # > So, I just thought I'd check out the level of interest in the 50 and >> # > see if anyone as a 100 that they're thinking of selling. >> # > >> # > >> # >> # Buy a Kiron/Lester Dine or Vivitar 105mm f2.8 in KA form for much >> cheaper? >> >> OK, what are the options for 100mm-ish macros that also work well as >> general purpose lenses? What are their strengths and weaknesses? >> > > 105mm f2.5 Vivitar Series 1 macro. An outstandingly sharp lens and > usually relatively inexpensive on the used market. On the LX and *ist D > I used it as a general purpose short tele, portrait lens and it was a > perfect 1:1 macro lens. > > Christian > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- I like smoke and lightning Heavy metal thunder Chasin' with the wind And the feelin' that I'm under -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
Larry Colen wrote: On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:23:34PM -0400, John Francis wrote: On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:17:08PM -0400, Mat Maessen wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: ... Their tendency to dumb things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. MARK! Archie and Jughead, the two gentlemen of Veronica ... Mark! Shouldn't that be Archie and Reggie the two gentlemen of Veronica... -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
I haven't studied micro biology in quite some time, the kingdoms have been seriously re-arranged. If there was such a thing as a fungus-bacteria now I wouldn't be at all surprised... eckinator wrote: did I write 'fungus bacteria'? I meant fungus or bacteria of course... 2009/10/1 eckinator : Could also be fungus bacteria eating into organic matter in the glue layer. Are there any changes to the surfaces now laid bare? I recall from the early days of flat panel computer screens how some manufacturers suffered this issue and had to recall/replace entire production batches because the edges of their panels were poorly sealed. Cheers Ecke 2009/10/1 P. J. Alling : I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. Luiz Felipe wrote: Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? lf -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My first blog (GESO)
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: > I've decided. Now it is time to become cool. > So I've created a blog You are now much more fashionable. > http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ Could the beautiful pictures be bigger? -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: first 6x7 peso
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3971912621/ > > Pentax 6x7, fuji pro 160c, scanning with k10d against my lcd screen > love the big camera :) > unfortunately, it's currently being repaired - i borrowed it to a > friend and he managed to do something to the rewind mechanism, but > well, at least he found the repairman and will give it back only once > it's repaired. Hey, what's that building? I've been there but I can't remember where/when. -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
My first blog (GESO)
I've decided. Now it is time to become cool. So I've created a blog http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ First real post is in Norwegian. But I think you are able to read the pictures. Enjoy, and please feel free to leave a comment (Comments in English will make me even cooler). The pictures are from a journey with the local photo club to our surf paradise Hoddevikssanden. Every now and then I may post some PDML stuff here to. Time will tell. -- MaritimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Markham fair photo contest
Sounds good Dave. I look forward to seeing the pictures. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:23 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> David J Brooks wrote: >> >>>I was very pleased at the photo contest results. Two 1st place, one >>>2nd, two 4ths and two 5ths, in the print classes. They were still >>>putting the digital results together when we were there. Back on >>>Saturday to watch the horse show and get Liz a coffee whilst she >>>announces for the horse show. >>> >>>I'll see how i did in the digital then. >>> >>>I entered 10 in digital and 18 in prints(6 B&W and 12 colour). I';ll >>>post a small Geso when i know whats what. >>> >>>Warning for the squeamish, some shots are with the Nikon cameras. >> >> You still using the D1? > > Yes, but not that much. Mostly D2H, D200 and the K10D. > > Dave >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blues GESO- Paul Rishell & Annie Rains
On Oct 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 28, 2009, at 19:15, Michael Beacom wrote: Pictures of a top drawer Blues duo, in a tiny venue- Archie's Barbershop. (http://www.acousticblues.com/) There were something like 30 or 40 people- just about all the place can comfortably hold. All told, a great evening. I hope I was able to capture some of the flavor of the show. http://www.flickr.com/photos/62343...@n00/sets/72157622467532792/ I was going to comment that it must have been very dark in there, until I realized that you were shooting some of those motion- blurred images at ISO 1600 - and f/16! I actually like some of the ones with the motion blur in 'em. Puts a little "zing" into it even though it lacks the sharpness that I usually (for better or worse) push for. I think especially with the pretty bland overhead lighting you needed to do something to liven it up. Not a bad set. -Charles Thanks for the comments! I was experimenting with the blur- and in 20-20 hindsight, I should have stayed at f8, and minimized camera shake. I started the night with manual focus lenses, and decided that I really need a KatzEye screen. The K100D is tough to manually focus in available darkness. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
On 10/1/09, Cotty wrote: > On 29/9/09, Tom Cakalic, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >You all can say anything you like on the list, I've always been a > >proponent of that. > > > Ni! I know I have your phone number around here somewhere. No...that's your wife's. I guess it'll have to do. Need a gmail invite? -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WB and exposure
Dario, I just looked up our 2-year e-mail exchange: http://www.pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2007-August/086939.html I stand corrected for the fact that Godfrey did NOT see it with his K10D, while I did with my *ist DS. In the messages linked above Godfrey gives a very reasonable explanation of why it can happen. And no, I don't think I am hitting the low limit of the meter. (E.g. 1/15s f/1.4-f/2.8) But yes, it does happen in relatively low light. Igor On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> Following the discussion about exposure and WB, I was skeptical that WB >> setting could affect exposure metering, as in a SLR the meter cells are >> independent from the sensor. So I've tested it on my K20D. >> I've taken three Av exposures in tungsten light (one with Auto WB, another >> one with Daylight WB and the last one with Tungsten WB). As expected, >> shutter speed was the same and the histograms of the three shots look >> identical. >> >> Dario > > As a side note, I believe the possible underexposure that someone noticed > when shooting under tungsten light can be due to reaching the lower limit of > the meter range. Once you're there, the camera stops incrementing the > shutter speed for getting a proper exposure in dim light. Be aware that > going below the lower limit of the meter is common when shooting shows such > as music indoors and the like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: first 6x7 peso
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3971912621/ Pentax 6x7, fuji pro 160c, scanning with k10d against my lcd screen love the big camera :) unfortunately, it's currently being repaired - i borrowed it to a friend and he managed to do something to the rewind mechanism, but well, at least he found the repairman and will give it back only once it's repaired. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
On 29/9/09, Tom Cakalic, discombobulated, unleashed: >You all can say anything you like on the list, I've always been a >proponent of that. Ni! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Hey, Henry's + Gmail rah rah
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > From: Tim Bray >> >> I use gmail to read PDML, and for the first time ever it managed to >> bring up a Pentax-specific ad. So to reward Henry's (a decent enough >> place in my experience) for this worthy investment, here's their >> Pentax promotion: http://is.gd/3PAgC >> >> -T > > Prime candidate for web pages that suck though. Horrible navigation. > > Click on a link and it opens a cryptic pop-up menu that only stays visible > for about 15 seconds. Maybe so, but the salesman i deal with in Newmarket gives me 10% off, so i'll suffer through the site.:-) Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WB and exposure
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote: >> Following the discussion about exposure and WB, I was skeptical that WB >> setting could affect exposure metering, as in a SLR the meter cells are >> independent from the sensor. So I've tested it on my K20D. >> I've taken three Av exposures in tungsten light (one with Auto WB, another >> one with Daylight WB and the last one with Tungsten WB). As expected, >> shutter speed was the same and the histograms of the three shots look >> identical. >> >> Dario > > As a side note, I believe the possible underexposure that someone noticed > when shooting under tungsten light can be due to reaching the lower limit of > the meter range. Once you're there, the camera stops incrementing the > shutter speed for getting a proper exposure in dim light. Be aware that > going below the lower limit of the meter is common when shooting shows such > as music indoors and the like. Or the lens cap is still on the lens. Dave > > Dario > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > In my life time, I have met several persons with my name, including one who > had my exact first, middle and last name. > > But I have never met anyone who shared the same birthday. There used to be seven Dave Brooks' here in town. Confusing as we use the same dentists and doctors.:-0 Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Markham fair photo contest
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > David J Brooks wrote: > >>I was very pleased at the photo contest results. Two 1st place, one >>2nd, two 4ths and two 5ths, in the print classes. They were still >>putting the digital results together when we were there. Back on >>Saturday to watch the horse show and get Liz a coffee whilst she >>announces for the horse show. >> >>I'll see how i did in the digital then. >> >>I entered 10 in digital and 18 in prints(6 B&W and 12 colour). I';ll >>post a small Geso when i know whats what. >> >>Warning for the squeamish, some shots are with the Nikon cameras. > > You still using the D1? Yes, but not that much. Mostly D2H, D200 and the K10D. Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: prices started going down
I knew about amazon, but when I looked at Beach & Buy Dig over the weekend, prices hadn't budged yet. Thanks for monitoring. - Pat On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > After some first hesitant jitter (as in $50) 2-3 weeks ago, > the prices for K7 started going down. > > BuyDig and Beach Camera have it for $1100, > and Amazon has it for $1131. > > I'll keep watching. > > Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
Hadn't noticed that. Owner likely pitched them up there to help his case for a new pair. Thanks, Igor Jack --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Igor Roshchin wrote: > From: Igor Roshchin > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > To: PDML@pdml.net > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:20 PM > > > Jack, probably not.. > > It looks like the left one has a hole > in the front inner part where the top joins the sole. > That might be the reason. > > Igor > > > Thu Oct 1 15:45:13 CDT 2009 > Jack Davis wrote: > > > No, I'm sure they're not. I'll bet an embarrassed son will > help Dad in a number of attempts to cut them down. > I see a butcher knife duct taped to a bamboo poll. > > Jack > > --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Eactivist at aol.com aol.com> wrote: > > > From: Eactivist at aol.com aol.com> > > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > > To: pdml at pdml.net > > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 11:24 AM > > In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:25:38 > > A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > jdavisf8 at yahoo.com > > writes: > > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of > these > > shoes, "Felony." > > > > Comment as you will. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
LOL... the notorious, elusive serial offender Prawo Jazdy... I'd almost forgotten him... 2009/10/1 Bob W : > [...] >> As a black guy, in a mostly white college town, driving a >> beat up older car, Mike got pulled over regularly for Driving >> While Black. On at least two occasions he was subsequently >> arrested and taken to jail, because someone typed in the >> wrong birthday when entering warrants for another Mike Smith. >> > > Should have changed his name to Prawo Jazdy. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm > > [...] > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Dave Brooks' day
[...] > As a black guy, in a mostly white college town, driving a > beat up older car, Mike got pulled over regularly for Driving > While Black. On at least two occasions he was subsequently > arrested and taken to jail, because someone typed in the > wrong birthday when entering warrants for another Mike Smith. > Should have changed his name to Prawo Jazdy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm [...] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
In a message dated 10/1/2009 11:26:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes: In my life time, I have met several persons with my name, including one who had my exact first, middle and last name. But I have never met anyone who shared the same birthday. == I've met some people with my same first name, and first and middle name. And more with the same last name, but never all three. But I've never met someone with the same birthday either. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, mike wilson wrote: > John Sessoms wrote: > > >From: Larry Colen > > > >>Last year I had thanksgiving with a friend I used to date. She is > >>exactly a year younger than me. At that thanksgiving dinner, out of 12 > >>people, 4 of us were born on Sept. 6th. > >> > >>On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:00:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: > >> > 2009/9/30 John Francis : > >>> > > > Our maths teacher sprung this one on us in the 5th form > > > (ob.us - around 11th grade). ?He asked us to estimate the > > > probability that two people in our class of around 30 > > > shared the same birthday. ?He chose a few people to guess, > > > before he revealed the answer. ?I was one of the two top > > > maths performers in the class, so he saved me until last. > > > My guess? ?100% ! ? ?That surprised him somewhat, until I > > > pointed out that we had two sets of twins in the class ... > > > > > >In my life time, I have met several persons with my name, including one > >who had my exact first, middle and last name. > > > >But I have never met anyone who shared the same birthday. > > I have somebody living next door with exactly the same name. I have > enough trobles with the taxman over that - God help me if our birthdays > were the same, too. If anyone on this list plays Role Playing Games, they may know the company "Ross Talsorian Games". The owner was a buddy of mine in college named "Mike Smith". Mike is black, and in the late seventies, and early 80's there weren't a lot of black guys in Davis. At the time, Mike's daily driver was a beat up '65 'cuda we called "Mother Mopar". She was a bit long in the tooth, but there are some amusing stories about other drivers being taught what 273 godfearing American cubic inches could do. As a black guy, in a mostly white college town, driving a beat up older car, Mike got pulled over regularly for Driving While Black. On at least two occasions he was subsequently arrested and taken to jail, because someone typed in the wrong birthday when entering warrants for another Mike Smith. Shortly before Mike married his girlfriend, Lisa Pond, he changed his name to Pondsmith. That helped with the misentered warrants. Since he worked at the library for King law school, he bought a window sticker for the law school and put it on the car. I don't think he was pulled over for DWB in Davis after that. I guess that cops find harrassing law students more trouble than it's worth. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
Jack, probably not.. It looks like the left one has a hole in the front inner part where the top joins the sole. That might be the reason. Igor Thu Oct 1 15:45:13 CDT 2009 Jack Davis wrote: No, I'm sure they're not. I'll bet an embarrassed son will help Dad in a number of attempts to cut them down. I see a butcher knife duct taped to a bamboo poll. Jack --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Eactivist at aol.com wrote: > From: Eactivist at aol.com > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > To: pdml at pdml.net > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 11:24 AM > In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:25:38 > A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jdavisf8 at yahoo.com > writes: > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these > shoes, "Felony." > > Comment as you will. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WB and exposure
Following the discussion about exposure and WB, I was skeptical that WB setting could affect exposure metering, as in a SLR the meter cells are independent from the sensor. So I've tested it on my K20D. I've taken three Av exposures in tungsten light (one with Auto WB, another one with Daylight WB and the last one with Tungsten WB). As expected, shutter speed was the same and the histograms of the three shots look identical. Dario As a side note, I believe the possible underexposure that someone noticed when shooting under tungsten light can be due to reaching the lower limit of the meter range. Once you're there, the camera stops incrementing the shutter speed for getting a proper exposure in dim light. Be aware that going below the lower limit of the meter is common when shooting shows such as music indoors and the like. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
WB and exposure
Following the discussion about exposure and WB, I was skeptical that WB setting could affect exposure metering, as in a SLR the meter cells are independent from the sensor. So I've tested it on my K20D. I've taken three Av exposures in tungsten light (one with Auto WB, another one with Daylight WB and the last one with Tungsten WB). As expected, shutter speed was the same and the histograms of the three shots look identical. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
prices started going down
After some first hesitant jitter (as in $50) 2-3 weeks ago, the prices for K7 started going down. BuyDig and Beach Camera have it for $1100, and Amazon has it for $1131. I'll keep watching. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: My own Pentax blog.
Jostein, I've used Adobe CameraRaw with de default setting and no automatic correction. Sharpning was set to 20. So this could affect testresults, althow this amount of sharping is normal in every day use. All images where judged with the same settings. I've tested the setting of sharpening before setting it to 20. And I found it te be a good point making a fair compare of the resolution. No sharpening made it a bit more difficult to make repeatable judgement of resolution. Setting it higher then 30 created artifarcts and would lead to false conculsions. I found 20 good, and also the sharping I mostly apply seem to be between 15 and 25. I know this isn't a perfect test, none is, but I already made these test for myself and want to share them with the world. The figure that I've got seems to confirm my subjective feeling about some lenses. kind regards, Pascal. Pascal, I read your blog before I asked. :-) What I would like to know is how you judge the exposures. If you apply sharpening to the exposures before counting line pairs, for example. Which raw file converter you use is also important, as they seem to vary in their ability to extract detail. And also which settings for contrast, sharpness, etc. you used in the camera. Best, Jostein 2009/9/30 Pascal De Pauw : Hi Jostein, Quote from my blog: Testnote: For testing I used a ISO 12233 resolution chart as testing object with the camera mounted on tripod using the self-timer and mirror-lockup. Extra info: I've printed two A3 testcharts and put them together to a A2 chart. Putting them on the wall and using a gitzo tripod to take raw pictures. I analysed it by just looking at them but did it twice and when there where big differences I checked it again. regards, Pascal. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen Last year I had thanksgiving with a friend I used to date. She is exactly a year younger than me. At that thanksgiving dinner, out of 12 people, 4 of us were born on Sept. 6th. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:00:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: > 2009/9/30 John Francis : > > Our maths teacher sprung this one on us in the 5th form > > (ob.us - around 11th grade). ?He asked us to estimate the > > probability that two people in our class of around 30 > > shared the same birthday. ?He chose a few people to guess, > > before he revealed the answer. ?I was one of the two top > > maths performers in the class, so he saved me until last. > > My guess? ?100% ! ? ?That surprised him somewhat, until I > > pointed out that we had two sets of twins in the class ... In my life time, I have met several persons with my name, including one who had my exact first, middle and last name. But I have never met anyone who shared the same birthday. I have somebody living next door with exactly the same name. I have enough trobles with the taxman over that - God help me if our birthdays were the same, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
No, I'm sure they're not. I'll bet an embarrassed son will help Dad in a number of attempts to cut them down. I see a butcher knife duct taped to a bamboo poll. Jack --- On Thu, 10/1/09, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: > From: eactiv...@aol.com > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > To: pdml@pdml.net > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 11:24 AM > In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:25:38 > A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jdavi...@yahoo.com > writes: > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these > shoes, "Felony." > > Comment as you will. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > K20, 55~...@230mm (this lens seems to be "stuck" on > the camera), ISO 400, > 1/2000, F/6.7 > > == > Heh. Right, Nikes aren't cheap. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > - > We can't solve problems by using the same kind of > thinking we used when we > created them. Albert Einstein > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
Yes, I messed with the lighting attempting to see a bit of the shoe soles and remove some glare from the uppers. Had to back off to eliminate some haloing, but a small amount remains. Thanks for commenting, Charles. Jack --- On Thu, 10/1/09, Charles Robinson wrote: > From: Charles Robinson > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:49 PM > On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:25, Jack Davis > wrote: > > > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these > shoes, "Felony." > > > > Comment as you will. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > > You doing some HDR kinda stuff on that? I see lighter > and darker > areas in the sky immediately around the edges of the > shoes > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:23:34PM -0400, John Francis wrote: > On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:17:08PM -0400, Mat Maessen wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > >... Their tendency to dumb > > > things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like > > > Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. > > > > MARK! > > Archie and Jughead, the two gentlemen of Veronica ... Mark! > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:17:08PM -0400, Mat Maessen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >... Their tendency to dumb > > things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like > > Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. > > MARK! Archie and Jughead, the two gentlemen of Veronica ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 04:17:08PM -0400, Mat Maessen scripsit: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >... Their tendency to dumb > > things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like > > Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. > > MARK! The Pentax Camera manuals are, for the most part, a physical description of the device and its functions. They're not any kind of instructional manual nor are they intended to allow a complex task (one that involves more than one function) to be completed. If Pentax ever wants to hire me to fix that, I'd be happy to, but it's not likely to be a major priority for them, and producing "these are the 10 common photographic tasks, here's how you do them" documentation isn't a trivial exercise. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >... Their tendency to dumb > things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like > Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. MARK! -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:25, Jack Davis wrote: "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these shoes, "Felony." Comment as you will. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 You doing some HDR kinda stuff on that? I see lighter and darker areas in the sky immediately around the edges of the shoes -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 03:11:42PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Larry, > > Some comments and corrections. > > > I am constantly talking about how you should shoot for the raw data, > > and correct everything in post processing. If that is the case, then > > setting the color balance at the time you shoot should not make any > > difference. > > It was discussed earlier here on the list (probably about a year ago) > mostly between Godfrey and myself that the way exponometry works > or to be exact, - programmed > (at least in some cameras, - for sure in *ist DS and Godfrey was > mentioning either K10D or K20D at that point), > is that in some combination of the WB and the actual light, the > photographs can be underexposed. This happens, e.g. when you shoot > with the daylight WB in the room with tungsten lights: uncorrected > images are underexposed (after WB corrected). This makes sense, and is good to know. > The mechanism responsible for that is similar to what you describe > in your writeup in the situation of colored lights: > one channel dominates, and the other two are underexposed. > So, it is nice to have the right ball-park setting for WB. That's another good reason for it. Although, as I mention, the only thing that I've found to really work when shooting available light is to manually set the exposure, because it's too easy to fool the camera, especially in dark rooms with one or two bright lights. > > Having it precise might be an overkill in case you are not trying to > get just 1-2-3 shots, but a bunch of them at different parts of the > dance floor. The variance of the light throughout the room may prove > your efforts to be unreasonable, especially if you are going to > correct WB in post-processing anyway. > > > Also, - if you try to write a universal guide, - keep in mind that > your reference to the green button makes it very narrow-oriented. > It's Pentax-centric, and even with Pentax not applicable to all cameras. Yup. This is the first draft, and I'm just working at getting all of my thoughts down. Maybe I can convince Pentax that they need to hire me to write tutorials on how to use pentax gear. We all know that the fastest way to improve the quality of pictures that a camera takes is usually to upgrade the "meat bipod". In my experience the Pentax manuals are written for people who don't know there aperture from a hole in the ground. Their tendency to dumb things down to the point that they make Archie and Veronica look like Shakespeare, renders them close to useless. What I think that they should do is write a high quality manual that explains, for reasonably intelligent, competent, people how to use all of the various features and pieces of gear. Print them all in one book and it would serve as a combination tutorial, user's manual and advertising brochure by showing the really cool things that you need this particular piece of kit for. > > Igor > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
did I write 'fungus bacteria'? I meant fungus or bacteria of course... 2009/10/1 eckinator : > Could also be fungus bacteria eating into organic matter in the glue > layer. Are there any changes to the surfaces now laid bare? > I recall from the early days of flat panel computer screens how some > manufacturers suffered this issue and had to recall/replace entire > production batches because the edges of their panels were poorly > sealed. > Cheers > Ecke > > 2009/10/1 P. J. Alling : >> I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. >> >> Luiz Felipe wrote: >>> >>> Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and >>> discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to >>> motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? >>> >>> lf >> >> >> -- >> >> >> The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or >> drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a >> damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is >> not a free man any more than a dog. >> >> --G. K. Chesterton >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Mark Roberts wrote: I expect it to, seriously. I don't - it uses a CCD, not a CMOS sensor. Touchè Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
You should also carry a ladder. Thanks for commenting, Davis. --- On Thu, 10/1/09, David J Brooks wrote: > From: David J Brooks > Subject: Re: PESO: Mischief > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:30 AM > Ha Ha. > > I see shoes like that quite often around here. > > I need to look up more. > > Dave > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis > wrote: > > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these > shoes, "Felony." > > > > Comment as you will. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > > > > K20, 55~...@230mm (this lens seems to be "stuck" on > the camera), ISO 400, 1/2000, F/6.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > -- > Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. > www.caughtinmotion.com > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ > York Region, Ontario, Canada > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
Larry, Some comments and corrections. > I am constantly talking about how you should shoot for the raw data, > and correct everything in post processing. If that is the case, then > setting the color balance at the time you shoot should not make any > difference. It was discussed earlier here on the list (probably about a year ago) mostly between Godfrey and myself that the way exponometry works or to be exact, - programmed (at least in some cameras, - for sure in *ist DS and Godfrey was mentioning either K10D or K20D at that point), is that in some combination of the WB and the actual light, the photographs can be underexposed. This happens, e.g. when you shoot with the daylight WB in the room with tungsten lights: uncorrected images are underexposed (after WB corrected). The mechanism responsible for that is similar to what you describe in your writeup in the situation of colored lights: one channel dominates, and the other two are underexposed. So, it is nice to have the right ball-park setting for WB. Having it precise might be an overkill in case you are not trying to get just 1-2-3 shots, but a bunch of them at different parts of the dance floor. The variance of the light throughout the room may prove your efforts to be unreasonable, especially if you are going to correct WB in post-processing anyway. Also, - if you try to write a universal guide, - keep in mind that your reference to the green button makes it very narrow-oriented. It's Pentax-centric, and even with Pentax not applicable to all cameras. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mischief
I know...JERKS UNLIMITED! Jack --- On Thu, 10/1/09, William Robb wrote: > From: William Robb > Subject: Re: Mischief > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:27 AM > > - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: > PESO: Mischief > > > > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these > shoes, "Felony." > > > > Comment as you will. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > > We have those little testaments to stupidity all over the > place here, too. > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 02:51:15PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Sessoms wrote: > > >From: AlunFoto > >> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > >> target date for the 645D. > > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/tv/images/programmes/closeddoors_camera.jpg > > Looks like the 645D does video! But it does it nun too well. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Dario Bonazza wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: > >> John Sessoms wrote: >> >>>From: AlunFoto At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. >>> >>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/tv/images/programmes/closeddoors_camera.jpg >> >> Looks like the 645D does video! > >I expect it to, seriously. I don't - it uses a CCD, not a CMOS sensor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Mark Roberts wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: AlunFoto At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/tv/images/programmes/closeddoors_camera.jpg Looks like the 645D does video! I expect it to, seriously. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
John Sessoms wrote: >From: AlunFoto >> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as >> target date for the 645D. > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/tv/images/programmes/closeddoors_camera.jpg Looks like the 645D does video! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
From: Larry Colen On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: > That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by > nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell chartreuse. Dave Brooks wouldn't 'a let that stop HIM! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
From: AlunFoto At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/tv/images/programmes/closeddoors_camera.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso drain grate
From: Boris Liberman Larry Colen wrote: > These other two are from the dozen or so I took of the grate, with > different composition and focus points in the camera: > Color: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3969755144/ > B&W > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3969753436/ > >> The "rule" I was taught in school is the in-focus subject should be >> about 1/3 of the way into the frame. Well, I wasn't speaking about the "rule", rather of my perception. Though of course the rule is probably some kind of generalization of perception of many people. The second photo is better w.r.t. the rule ;-) . And I prefer the color version. "They" say "Rules are made to be broken" ... that's why I put "rule" in quotes. But, I was also taught that when you're going to break a "rule", you ought to have a reason, one you can explain, even if only to yourself, what you expect to achieve by breaking the "rule". The "rules" are a starting point ... like, you got to have a box before you can think outside of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Dave Brooks' day
From: Larry Colen Last year I had thanksgiving with a friend I used to date. She is exactly a year younger than me. At that thanksgiving dinner, out of 12 people, 4 of us were born on Sept. 6th. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:00:49AM +0200, AlunFoto wrote: > 2009/9/30 John Francis : > > Our maths teacher sprung this one on us in the 5th form > > (ob.us - around 11th grade). ?He asked us to estimate the > > probability that two people in our class of around 30 > > shared the same birthday. ?He chose a few people to guess, > > before he revealed the answer. ?I was one of the two top > > maths performers in the class, so he saved me until last. > > My guess? ?100% ! ? ?That surprised him somewhat, until I > > pointed out that we had two sets of twins in the class ... In my life time, I have met several persons with my name, including one who had my exact first, middle and last name. But I have never met anyone who shared the same birthday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
In a message dated 10/1/2009 10:25:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these shoes, "Felony." Comment as you will. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 K20, 55~...@230mm (this lens seems to be "stuck" on the camera), ISO 400, 1/2000, F/6.7 == Heh. Right, Nikes aren't cheap. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: Hey, Henry's + Gmail rah rah
From: Tim Bray I use gmail to read PDML, and for the first time ever it managed to bring up a Pentax-specific ad. So to reward Henry's (a decent enough place in my experience) for this worthy investment, here's their Pentax promotion: http://is.gd/3PAgC -T Prime candidate for web pages that suck though. Horrible navigation. Click on a link and it opens a cryptic pop-up menu that only stays visible for about 15 seconds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Markham fair photo contest
David J Brooks wrote: >I was very pleased at the photo contest results. Two 1st place, one >2nd, two 4ths and two 5ths, in the print classes. They were still >putting the digital results together when we were there. Back on >Saturday to watch the horse show and get Liz a coffee whilst she >announces for the horse show. > >I'll see how i did in the digital then. > >I entered 10 in digital and 18 in prints(6 B&W and 12 colour). I';ll >post a small Geso when i know whats what. > >Warning for the squeamish, some shots are with the Nikon cameras. You still using the D1? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
David J Brooks wrote: >On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote: > >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. >> J. Alling >> >> Christian wrote: >>> mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > >> AlunFoto wrote: >>> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was >>> mentioned as >>> target date for the 645D. >> Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit >> many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. > They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over > the years. Not a bad cross to bear. >>> >>> I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... >> Don't be a martyr. >>> >> You ain't kiddin', sister. > >Rosary, Mary and Tyme. No. Nun of the above. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Markham fair photo contest
Hi gang I was very pleased at the photo contest results. Two 1st place, one 2nd, two 4ths and two 5ths, in the print classes. They were still putting the digital results together when we were there. Back on Saturday to watch the horse show and get Liz a coffee whilst she announces for the horse show. I'll see how i did in the digital then. I entered 10 in digital and 18 in prints(6 B&W and 12 colour). I';ll post a small Geso when i know whats what. Warning for the squeamish, some shots are with the Nikon cameras. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mischief
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: PESO: Mischief "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these shoes, "Felony." Comment as you will. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 We have those little testaments to stupidity all over the place here, too. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Desjardins, Steve wrote: > You ain't kiddin', sister. Rosary, Mary and Tyme. Dave > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. > Alling > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:52 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: 645D news > > Christian wrote: >> mike wilson wrote: >>> Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: > AlunFoto wrote: >> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was >> mentioned as >> target date for the 645D. > Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit > many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over the years. >>> >>> Not a bad cross to bear. >> >> I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... > Don't be a martyr. >> >> > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mischief
Ha Ha. I see shoes like that quite often around here. I need to look up more. Dave On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > "Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these shoes, "Felony." > > Comment as you will. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 > > > K20, 55~...@230mm (this lens seems to be "stuck" on the camera), ISO 400, > 1/2000, F/6.7 > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photographing blues dancers, exposure
Maybe Pentax can come up with a grey card bluetooth, that would cover about 80% for those street photog's,:-0 Dave On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > My short article on photgraphing blues dancing seems to want to be a > book when it grows up. > > I've finished roughing out the section on exposure: > http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_exposure.txt > Comments and feedback appreciated > > The parent directory is: > http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/ > > The previous sections are: > http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_equip_01.txt > http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_equip_02.txt > http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_focus_01.txt > > -- > The first step is learning to take great photos, > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Mischief
"Mischief" or, considering the price of some of these shoes, "Felony." Comment as you will. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=440 K20, 55~...@230mm (this lens seems to be "stuck" on the camera), ISO 400, 1/2000, F/6.7 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: peso drain grate
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I stopped by Highlands park today to see if there were any good photo > opportunities of the river. I got a few shots of a small waterfall > which seem pleasant, but probably a bit cliche' > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622360963705/ Number 35670 is very pleasing. > > On my way back to the car, a drain grate caught my eye. I took a few > frames, this is my favorite, and I think that the longer I look at it, > the more I like it: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3968424714/sizes/o/ > > Comments and suggestions are welcome. I can't decide whether it would > be better if about half of the top third of the image were cropped so > that the grate wasn't centered in the frame. I think the first one in the series is the better one, showing the long top arm and shorter bottom arm. Dave > > -- > The first step is learning to take great photos, > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
Ecke, the filter is still in one piece - sort of, the layers are still attached on each other. Just there is a fairly intricate pattern spreading from the borders up to a third part of the radius, on average. I'll re-check for other clues at night. I've seen antibiotics used to "enhance" antifouling paint on boats... but using antibiotics to preserve photo gear is a new idea. lf ps: no, I wouldn't do either - there are enough problems with resistant strains right now. eckinator escreveu: Could also be fungus bacteria eating into organic matter in the glue layer. Are there any changes to the surfaces now laid bare? I recall from the early days of flat panel computer screens how some manufacturers suffered this issue and had to recall/replace entire production batches because the edges of their panels were poorly sealed. Cheers Ecke 2009/10/1 P. J. Alling : I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. Luiz Felipe wrote: Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? lf -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
P. J., I dropped one loong ago, before the days of circular polarizers - and it delaminated some right after the impact, but stopped despite being kept in a drawer for 12+ years. Found it in january, still looking the same - just a semi circle delaminated radiating from the ding in the border. Moisture is a problem - but the pesky filter was stored with silica, along a lens and some other bits and filters and the rest is looking the same as before. The BH pair - circular polarizers, 52 & 58mm - is outside, in the bag since before the P adapters were released and is still perfect. Not a huge setback, but annoying. I'd rather understanding, so it doesn't happens again. lf P. J. Alling escreveu: I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. Luiz Felipe wrote: Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? lf -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
eckinator wrote: Could also be fungus bacteria eating into organic matter in the glue layer. Are there any changes to the surfaces now laid bare? I recall from the early days of flat panel computer screens how some manufacturers suffered this issue and had to recall/replace entire production batches because the edges of their panels were poorly sealed. Have you noticed that recordable DVD's are oddly made that way now? That's for cost reasons for sure, but I'm afraid they won't last. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
Could also be fungus bacteria eating into organic matter in the glue layer. Are there any changes to the surfaces now laid bare? I recall from the early days of flat panel computer screens how some manufacturers suffered this issue and had to recall/replace entire production batches because the edges of their panels were poorly sealed. Cheers Ecke 2009/10/1 P. J. Alling : > I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. > > Luiz Felipe wrote: >> >> Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and >> discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to >> motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? >> >> lf > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x
Just some shots with the K-x ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/sets/72157622367038869/ Bong On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: > The local Pentax dealer got me to try out the K-x for a spin! > > My initial impressions are: > 1. It's black :-) > 2. It's the K-m that grew extra megapixel, live view and video plus > other improvements. > 3. I never let go of it during our brief road trip; I let my son > handle the K-7 ... > > Will PESO photos later... > > -- > Bong Manayon > http://www.bong.uni.cc > -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cokin polarizer delaminated
I've never had a polarizer delaminate, but moisture will do it. Luiz Felipe wrote: Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? lf -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cokin polarizer delaminated
Just received a piece of no-good news. Unpacked my Cokin set and discovered my once lovely polarizer is de-laminating badly. Any clues to motive? Did this happen to anyone else?? lf -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 645D news
You ain't kiddin', sister. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:52 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 645D news Christian wrote: > mike wilson wrote: >> Mark Roberts wrote: >>> mike wilson wrote: >>> AlunFoto wrote: > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was > mentioned as > target date for the 645D. Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. >>> They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over >>> the years. >> >> Not a bad cross to bear. > > I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... Don't be a martyr. > > -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
2009/10/1 Christian : > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > target date for the 645D. Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. >>> They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over >>> the years. >> Not a bad cross to bear. > I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... So, back to the conventional, then. :-) Jostein Still laughing at my original typo -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Christian wrote: mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over the years. Not a bad cross to bear. I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... Don't be a martyr. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Christian wrote: >mike wilson wrote: >> Mark Roberts wrote: >>> mike wilson wrote: >>> AlunFoto wrote: > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > target date for the 645D. Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. >>> They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over >>> the years. >> >> Not a bad cross to bear. > >I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... I always knew you would: It was pre-ordained. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: AlunFoto wrote: At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over the years. Not a bad cross to bear. I just broke my vow to never respond to a pun thread... -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
AlunFoto wrote: > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > target date for the 645D. Now, Pentax/Hoya needs to knock together about 250,000 of them, give one each to Paris Hilton, Victoria Beckham and a couple of male "celebs" (funny how I can't remember one of _their_ names) and then sit back and enjoy the ride. We can pick them up from thrift shops in a year or so. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > > > AlunFoto wrote: > >> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > >> target date for the 645D. > > > >Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more > >pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. > > They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over > the years. Not a bad cross to bear. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
yews nad hes benen pasnig me wif broorkklyn brigjee ownerhfipd certogihkats... 2009/10/1 P. J. Alling : > Come clean, you've been giving spelling lessons to Brooks haven't you. > > eckinator wrote: >> >> I defnately would of thawt it was spelled shartroose as in caboose... >> but then that is probly fonatic... >> >> 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : >> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: >>> That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) >>> >>> I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell >>> chartreuse. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The first step is learning to take great photos, >>> the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com >>> http://www.red4est.com/lrc >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- After the Fall XV
In a message dated 9/22/2009 7:59:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, webstertwenty...@gmail.com writes: One last one tonight http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20afterthefallxv.html Notes: Converted using Fotomatic B&W Plus Red Filter. Added a layer of artificial grain for a film feel. Toned with TLR Platinum Tone action. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. = Nice shot, like the way the collapsed porch provides perspective - front to back in the picture. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - When Messengers Gather
Nicley framed and composed Frank. Dave On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:06 PM, frank theriault wrote: > Bike parking on a wet September night: > > http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2009/09/when-messengers-gather.html > > Comments welcome. > > Hope you enjoy. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Blues GESO- Paul Rishell & Annie Rains
On Sep 28, 2009, at 19:15, Michael Beacom wrote: Pictures of a top drawer Blues duo, in a tiny venue- Archie's Barbershop. (http://www.acousticblues.com/) There were something like 30 or 40 people- just about all the place can comfortably hold. All told, a great evening. I hope I was able to capture some of the flavor of the show. http://www.flickr.com/photos/62343...@n00/sets/72157622467532792/ I was going to comment that it must have been very dark in there, until I realized that you were shooting some of those motion-blurred images at ISO 1600 - and f/16! I actually like some of the ones with the motion blur in 'em. Puts a little "zing" into it even though it lacks the sharpness that I usually (for better or worse) push for. I think especially with the pretty bland overhead lighting you needed to do something to liven it up. Not a bad set. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bikes, Blues, &BBQ 2009
In a message dated 9/30/2009 9:56:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charl...@visi.com writes: I was going to comment on that as well. It's very dark. Darker than I would like... -Charles === What he said. Some photos would be rather striking if brighter and not so grayed down. It looks like all have been post processed with a deliberate vignetting style. Don't think that works, at least, not for all. Marnie aka Doe :-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 09:39:17PM -0700, Larry Colen scripsit: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 08:53:05PM -0400, Graydon wrote: > > If the K-x flies off the shelf, you really think the K-# (whatever that > > number might be) won't have the colour options in a year and a bit? > > I want a dayglo pink and lime 645D. And, y'know, I'm pretty sure Pentax would never do that in a million years and Hoya would do it in a femtosecond if they believed it would drive sales. I think that's a net win, myself. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
lens advice needed: FA 100-300 or Sigma DL 75-300?
As title implies, I need your toughts about those two lenses - both available in a BR store, in a distant southeast city so there is absolutely no way to run tests. :-( The FA 100-300 4.7 is a little more expensive, the Sigma 70-300 4.5-5.6 DL is some $30 cheaper. Both are used, signs of wear, both have been serviced but they claim the maintenance was made by a sound shop. The FA 100-300 has a composite mount, from the pics I've seen, and is regarded by some as a poor lens - so poor that the compact Sigma is a better choice?? Your comments are important - is there anyone who had hands experience with both, and could elaborate on the differences? Is there any important point in either lens that should dictate my choice? I just received a M42 200mm 4.0 for the formal, slow performances, so the intended purpose of this new lens is to be carried in my everyday bag next to the DS and the kit lens. All my lenses should be able to cover 35mm, and present aperture rings - the 18-55 being excused since it came along the DS. TIA, folks! lf -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Clean Sweep
frank theriault wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Might I suggest an alternate title: "Sisyphus"? ;-) Hey, Camus be serious for a minute? Don't be absurd. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tomorrow night, I go pro
Sorry about the guitar job - but I do hope you get way more than 10 shots like the tomorrow night, each month. Just holler if you need an assistant. ;-) Not to mention other photos... lf Larry Colen escreveu: The guitar showcase job didn't work out. By the time I called her she had found someone else. The timing would have been rough for me anyways. The deal is that ebay needs photos of products, and someone there manages to talk various stores into letting them come in and shoot product in the store (in exchange for copies the photos or whatever). So, it looks like tomorrow night I've got a 9-5 job shooting pictures of about 50 products, makeup and the like. All I need are about 10 shoots like this a month to pay my bills. :) -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
mike wilson wrote: > AlunFoto wrote: >> At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as >> target date for the 645D. > >Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more >pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. They're very meticulous due to the good habits they've developed over the years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:20 AM, AlunFoto wrote: > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > target date for the 645D. > > Jostein > Holy crap! -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
AlunFoto wrote: > At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as > target date for the 645D. > > Jostein Slow workers, those nuns. But very thorough. I bet they can fit many more pixels on the sensor than your average assembly worker, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
Come clean, you've been giving spelling lessons to Brooks haven't you. eckinator wrote: I defnately would of thawt it was spelled shartroose as in caboose... but then that is probly fonatic... 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell chartreuse. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
eckinator wrote: danm disexilance agann... and i jsut new that zealfcawrrakting kyebroad wuz a ripawff... Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
danm disexilance agann... and i jsut new that zealfcawrrakting kyebroad wuz a ripawff... 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : > On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:49:36AM +0200, eckinator wrote: >> I defnately would of thawt it was spelled shartroose as in caboose... >> but then that is probly fonatic... > > You misspelled fonehtik. > >> >> 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : >> > On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: >> >> That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by >> >> nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) >> > >> > I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell >> > chartreuse. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The first step is learning to take great photos, >> > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. >> > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com >> > http://www.red4est.com/lrc >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> > follow the directions. >> > >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > The first step is learning to take great photos, > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:49:36AM +0200, eckinator wrote: > I defnately would of thawt it was spelled shartroose as in caboose... > but then that is probly fonatic... You misspelled fonehtik. > > 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : > > On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: > >> That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by > >> nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) > > > > I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell > > chartreuse. > > > > > > -- > > The first step is learning to take great photos, > > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. > > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com > > http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > > follow the directions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
I defnately would of thawt it was spelled shartroose as in caboose... but then that is probly fonatic... 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : > On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: >> That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by >> nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) > > I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell > chartreuse. > > > -- > The first step is learning to take great photos, > the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +0200, eckinator wrote: > That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by > nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) I confess I only said dayglo pink and lime because I can't spell chartreuse. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photographing blues dancers, exposure
My short article on photgraphing blues dancing seems to want to be a book when it grows up. I've finished roughing out the section on exposure: http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_exposure.txt Comments and feedback appreciated The parent directory is: http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/ The previous sections are: http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_equip_01.txt http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_equip_02.txt http://red4est.com/lrc/photowriting/blues_photo_focus_01.txt -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
That is sooo 80s... meaning it is currently being recycled by nincompoop fashion victims all over europe (and elsewhere?) Yeah, like, eeew, like gag me with a spoon... Just imagine the effect filters to go with that style... 2009/10/1 AlunFoto : > 2009/10/1 Larry Colen : >> >> I want a dayglo pink and lime 645D. > > Rotfl! > > Maaark! > > Jostein > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-x color envy is ripe
2009/10/1 Larry Colen : > > I want a dayglo pink and lime 645D. Rotfl! Maaark! Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 645D news
At a convent in Tokyo last May, I think 10. June 2010 was mentioned as target date for the 645D. Jostein 2009/10/1 Joseph McAllister : > As announced minutes ago in the UK pub. "Pentax User". It may have already > appeared here, but I missed it. > > "Pentax are hoping to release the Pentax 645D medium format camera in the > spring. > PDN reported that Ned Bunnell, the president of Pentax Imaging USA said > they've started development and the Pentax 645D medium format camera will be > released by Spring 2010." > > > > Joseph McAllister > pentax...@mac.com > > “ It is still true, as was first said many years ago, that people are the > only sophisticated computing devices that can be made at low cost by > unskilled workers!” > — Martin G. Wolf, PhD > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Transection
> > > >> In a message dated 9/29/2009 8:13:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > >> m...@robertstech.com writes: > >> http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d905643.htm > >> > >> > >> === > >> Very phallic. > > > > Wow. You need to get out more! > > ;-) > > > Jez Mark. She just got back! > She's been in the wilderness for a long time with only bears for company. I guess she has some catching up to do... Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.