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On 7/5/2010 6:19 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Boris,
I enjoyed Mondial, the guy seems to be cramed onto a very small scooter!
Shabazi 67 I don't understand.  I cannot make out the lower right of the window.
Not Staged and Etude are the best photos in my opinion.
The symetry in Not Staged is charming and begs us to think about how
it happened.
I like Etude but wish you had a bit more depth of field to it.
I expected to see the leaf is sharp focus too!
Hope you're not roasting in the summer heat.
Regards, Bob S.


Thanks Bob.

But you have to come here to see what kind of transportation devices are 
hmmm put to use by what kind of individuals.


As for Shabazi 67 - I thought I could evoke some 60's in the viewer, but 
since I am too young to have experienced it first hand, I probably 
missed the mark.


As for Etude - I had locked the f1.2 aperture in my mind... Probably too 
locked.


Thanks for your kind words.

Boris

P.S. Oh yes, I am roasting all right.

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Re: Boris, some PESOs


On 7/5/2010 4:45 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

"Not Staged" is enjoyably unique. Small blossoms in "Etude" are
strewn in an interesting way. I agree that something else is needed
in the frame, but the dead leaves may not be it.

Jack


Thanks, Jack.

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Re: Boris, some PESOs


On 7/5/2010 6:21 PM, Bob W wrote:


I love the shot of the 2 bikes parked on the corner. Bikes are like dogs.
They make good shapes to be in photos.

B


Bikes don't bark, as far as I remember ;-).

But thanks, Bob.

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Re: PESO - Synchronized

Frank,
Nice work with that manual lens.  Yes, it's better than you would
imagine.  Good to get the sharpness you did.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:28 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
> tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
> fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
> Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.
>
> I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
> either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
> mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
> that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
> pretty happy with how sharp this is:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html
>
> I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
> taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
>
> Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Jack Davis

Not a lot I can add to this as it feels close to complete. I'll admit in the 
photo pursuit, the greatest satisfaction that can be experienced is that of 
being immensely grateful for the process that provides the image I hold. 

Jack 

--- On Mon, 7/5/10, William Robb  wrote:

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> Subject: Re: Sorting photos
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 4:17 PM
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> --
> From: "Larry Colen"
> Subject: Re: Sorting photos
> 
> 
> 
> >> 
> >> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a
> photographer is learning how to edit.
> > 
> > A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to
> focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do
> you think still shoot everything in full manual?  I'm
> not looking for something that'll edit everything for me,
> I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most
> time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos,
> pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to
> blow up.
> > 
> 
> A big part of being a technician is knowing how to set
> focus and exposure, and is the easiest aspect of
> photography.
> It's the quantifiable stuff.
> This is why so many people bitch and whine when their lens
> isn't perfectly sharp, or has some minor technical flaw.
> They've found something they can quantify.
> But it isn't photography.
> Photography is about what you see and how you translate
> that into something you can hold. Everything else is window
> dressing sent to distract us.
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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Franklin


On 2010-07-05 21:49, P. J. Alling wrote:

Raw Shooter Professional.  The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials,
Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy
the Professional product. It was simple didn't lock you into any
particular way of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and
promoted a very efficient work flow with batch processing..


Yep, I really loved it.  It suits my way of working much better than 
Lightroom or Aperture, specifically because it lets me work my way.


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peso - red cross kiss

2010-07-05 Thread Sasha Sobol

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4766048875/
Pride parade in SF.

C&C welcome!

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Re: PESO - Synchronized

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Very nice, Frank.  you capture the sense of motion is this scene very well.

Dan

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:28 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
> tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
> fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
> Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.
>
> I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
> either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
> mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
> that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
> pretty happy with how sharp this is:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html
>
> I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
> taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
>
> Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PESO - Synchronized

2010-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin

Who are you and what did you do with Frank? If he is gone, how am I going to 
get my fix on subway and street-scenes?

But whoever you are, nicely shot, nicely cropped!

stan

On Jul 5, 2010, at 7:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
> tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
> fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
> Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.
> 
> I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
> either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
> mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
> that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
> pretty happy with how sharp this is:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html
> 
> I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
> taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
> 
> Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-05 Thread John Celio


You may also want to try contacting someone in the local bike
community - citizens' cycling lobby or advocacy groups, bike
messengers, that sort of thing.  They may know of one or several "hot
shops", fences who are known to take in hot bikes for resale.  Often
when confronted by the real owners they'll give the bike back or
"sell" it to the real owner for next to nothing, so as to make sure
the police aren't contacted.


Thanks for the suggestions, Frank.  I've been calling around to local bike 
shops first, and they all keep telling me it's hopeless, but they've taken 
my bike's description and suggested other places to call, so who knows, 
maybe it'll be worth it.


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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas

That was it. I remember seriously considering buying it at the time.
Ended up going with Capture One somewhat later for much the same
reasons (No organizational lockin, VERY good conversions, very good
for bathc processing).

-Adam

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:49 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> Raw Shooter Professional.  The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials,
> Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy the
> Professional product.  It was simple didn't lock you into any particular way
> of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and promoted a very
> efficient work flow with batch processing..
>
> On 7/5/2010 9:34 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
>>>

 I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
 based on the PE organizer code.

>>>
>>> Not much, if my memory serves me well.
>>>
>>> Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
>>> got renamed to "Photoshop Lightroom" when Adobe bought Macromedia.
>>>
>>> While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
>>> in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
>>> code found its way into the code base.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact
>> developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet
>> project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been
>> working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia.
>>
>> The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer
>> Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of
>> LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid
>> versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name
>> of the software though.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
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Re: Sorting photos

History of Lightroom development encapsulated here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_Lightroom

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Re: Sorting photos

Raw Shooter Professional.  The free product was Raw Shooter Essentials, 
Adobe bought them out and stopped development just when I decided to buy 
the Professional product.  It was simple didn't lock you into any 
particular way of archiving and produced extremely good conversions, and 
promoted a very efficient work flow with batch processing..


On 7/5/2010 9:34 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francis  wrote:
   

On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
 

I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
based on the PE organizer code.
   

Not much, if my memory serves me well.

Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
got renamed to "Photoshop Lightroom" when Adobe bought Macromedia.

While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
code found its way into the code base.

 

Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact
developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet
project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been
working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia.

The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer
Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of
LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid
versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name
of the software though.

-Adam

   



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Re: Pentax gear...

2010-07-05 Thread drd1135

Tired of this already. 
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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
>>
>> I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
>> based on the PE organizer code.
>
> Not much, if my memory serves me well.
>
> Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
> got renamed to "Photoshop Lightroom" when Adobe bought Macromedia.
>
> While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
> in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
> code found its way into the code base.
>

Nope, Lightroom was developed by Adobe in-house. It was in fact
developed by a large portion of the ImageReady team and is the pet
project of longtime Photoshop developer Mark Hamburg who'd been
working on the idea since 2002. It had nothing to do with Macromedia.

The confusion comes from a RAW converter application whose developer
Adobe bought out in 2006 and whose customers all got free copies of
LR1 to compensate for the ending of development of the converter (paid
versions included lifetime upgrades). I don't recall offhand the name
of the software though.

-Adam

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Re: Sorting photos

first I've ever heard of a relationship like that, john. And counter
to my direct experience with the development team in 2003-2004.

On Monday, July 5, 2010, John Francis  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
>>
>> I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
>> based on the PE organizer code.
>
> Not much, if my memory serves me well.
>
> Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
> got renamed to "Photoshop Lightroom" when Adobe bought Macromedia.
>
> While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
> in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
> code found its way into the code base.
>
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Re: Pentax gear...

Where's a Vilcan when you need one?

On Monday, July 5, 2010, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> On 7/5/2010 2:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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> So many pun-chures.
>
>
> You spoke to soon
>
> Dave
>
>
> This thread's going where angels fear to tread.
>
> -bmw
>
>
> It's already gone down the tube.
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Re: PESO - Synchronized

The M200 is a wonderful lens, and you've made very good use of it.  Oh 
and by way I hate you.


On 7/5/2010 8:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.

I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
pretty happy with how sharp this is:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html

I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html

Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.

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Re: PESO - Synchronized

2010-07-05 Thread paul stenquist

Nice work. 
I agree in regard to the M200/4. It's a lot of lens in a small package.
Paul
On Jul 5, 2010, at 8:28 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
> tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
> fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
> Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.
> 
> I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
> either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
> mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
> that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
> pretty happy with how sharp this is:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html
> 
> I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
> taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html
> 
> Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

On 7/5/2010 7:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"

On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote:

>
> What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
> concern him.
>
> Bob

What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a 
Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse.

That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi 
sympathizer at the time he abdicated. That came later.

I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales.

I thought it was both actually...

I'm also sure that Edward's sympathies were well known in the right circles.

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Re: Pentax gear...


On 7/5/2010 2:49 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

So many pun-chures.


You spoke to soon

Dave


This thread's going where angels fear to tread.

-bmw


It's already gone down the tube.

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PESO -- The Artist

Went to a fireworks display to celebrate the Glorious Forth.  Took the 
K20D for crowd shots and the *ist-Ds to mount on a tripod to shoot the 
fireworks themselves.  The clouds at sunset were spectacular, and I took 
a few shots of them but I also took a few shots of the stranger denizens 
of a summer resort town at a large public event.  This one especially 
tickled my funnybone.

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20theartist.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Version 3)

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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PESO - Synchronized

Yet another flying swan pic, this one from yesterday.  I was getting
tired of carting around long zooms;  they're so big and heavy and
fiddly.  So my kit was the *istD, the Pentax M 200mm f4.0 and the
Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 Macro.  Both nice light, easy to carry lenses.

I'm quite impressed with the M 200mm.  It's noticeably sharper than
either zoom I use.  This photo is about a 25% crop (is that right?  I
mean to say I cropped out about 75% of the original frame).  Given
that amount cropped, plus I was shooting manual focus and panning, I'm
pretty happy with how sharp this is:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/synchronized.html

I'm happier with this than the flying swan pic from the other day
taken with the heavy Tokina 80-200mm f2.8 zoom:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/swans-on-wing.html

Anyway, hope you like.  Comment if you will.

cheers,
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Re: Strange "Asahi NC Takumar 3,3/300mm Pentax M42" on Ebay

2010-07-05 Thread Anthony Farr

Thanks for sharing your historical expertise, Dario.  That new photo
is quite clear and informative and should satisfy anyone that the lens
is not sporting its original back end.  It looks to me like the lens
in its original form is fixed to the IR unit, and not meant to be
dismounted in normal use.

The auction has ended now with no bids after 7 days.  At the starting
price I'm not surprised.

regards, Anthony

   "Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)

On 4 July 2010 04:53, Dario Bonazza  wrote:
> In this case, I believe the IR unit usually (so to speak) seen between the
> lens and the Nocta body has been replaced by a simple barrel, in order to
> keep the register distance.
> See this picture I've just uploaded:
> www.aohc.it/images/Nocta_06.jpg
>
> Dario
>

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread John Francis

On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 04:18:03PM -0500, George Sinos wrote:
> 
> I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
> based on the PE organizer code.

Not much, if my memory serves me well.

Lightroom was developed by a separate company (Macromedia), and only
got renamed to "Photoshop Lightroom" when Adobe bought Macromedia.

While the Macromedia product didn't have all the features that we find
in Lightroom today, it was a complete product before any Adobe-added
code found its way into the code base.

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer


Doug Brewer wrote:

paul stenquist wrote:

On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:


Larry Colen wrote:
I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and 
sorting them out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones 
that aren't perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I 
could buy a pocket camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll 
find people's faces and focus on them, but I don't have something 
in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge sharpness 
(eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.
While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a 
photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various 
technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me 
a lot of time in post processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases 
where you're deliberately goofing with sharpness or exposure, and 
there maybe some great photos that have some technical flaw, but 
which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would be a 
huge help.

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Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how 
to edit.
A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set 
the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot 
everything in full manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll 
edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up 
one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the 
photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to 
blow up.
"Sharp" is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what 
might be acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably 
shapt for a static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You 
gotta make your own calls. Software can't do that for you.

Paul


Paul said more nicely than I did.

Photography



sorry, premature mouseclick. One of the problems with writing on one 
computer and reading email on the other, with one keyboard and mouse 
between them.


Larry, I understand the frustration level, particularly now; I'm editing 
photos and writing essays for a book and a presentation at GFM in a 
scant few weeks, and I could use a shortcut or two myself.


Your aspirations and methodologies may be different from mine. They 
probably are. But what I think is that each image deserves its own time 
 of examination, whether on the light table or in Lightroom. It's the 
only way to get to know your images, and examining your images is the 
only way to decide what kind of photographer you are.


If you let the computer decide which of your photographs are good enough 
for you to see, you're losing out on a very important step in your 
development.


Hope this makes sense.

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread David Savage

On 6 July 2010 07:17, William Robb  wrote:
>
> --
> From: "Larry Colen"
> Subject: Re: Sorting photos
>
>
>
>>>
>>> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to
>>> edit.
>>
>> A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the
>> exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything
>> in full manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for
>> me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time
>> consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see
>> which ones really are sharp enough to blow up.
>>
>
> A big part of being a technician is knowing how to set focus and exposure,
> and is the easiest aspect of photography.
> It's the quantifiable stuff.
> This is why so many people bitch and whine when their lens isn't perfectly
> sharp, or has some minor technical flaw.
> They've found something they can quantify.
> But it isn't photography.
> Photography is about what you see and how you translate that into something
> you can hold. Everything else is window dressing sent to distract us.

What he said.

DS

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread William Robb

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From: "Larry Colen"
Subject: Re: Sorting photos

Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to 
edit.

A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the 
exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything 
in full manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for 
me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time 
consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see 
which ones really are sharp enough to blow up.

A big part of being a technician is knowing how to set focus and exposure, 
and is the easiest aspect of photography.

It's the quantifiable stuff.
This is why so many people bitch and whine when their lens isn't perfectly 
sharp, or has some minor technical flaw.

They've found something they can quantify.
But it isn't photography.
Photography is about what you see and how you translate that into something 
you can hold. Everything else is window dressing sent to distract us.

William Robb 

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer

paul stenquist wrote:

On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:

I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them
out. After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or
even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a
dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I
don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge
sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.
While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software
that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus,
sharpness, exposure, ...) would save me a lot of time in post processing.
Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with
sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some
technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would
be a huge help.
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Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit.
A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full manual? I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are sharp enough to blow up.

"Sharp" is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be
acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, posed
photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. Software can't do
that for you.
Paul

Paul said more nicely than I did.

Photography

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OT PESO - Reach

2010-07-05 Thread David Savage

G'day All,

Another goalie shot:


D700, AF-S 70-200mm f2.8 @ 80mm, 1/160 @ f9, ISO 200

Elinchrom Ranger RX through 1x1m softbox camera right, SB28 behind goalie.

Have at it.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO - Latch


Larry Colen wrote:

On Jul 5, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:


Automotive minimalism.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
http://snipurl.com/z0pug



Very nice.  I can't recognize the car it's on though.


I'd be *uber* impressed if you could. :)

It's a Dodge Challenger R/T, but I don't recall the exact year (1970-71 
I think). Somebody at the cruise told me everything about this car in 
humungous detail, but I was trying to decide if I had enough light for 
ISO 200 so I missed a few bits. So I couldn't tell you if this one was 
the 426cu in (7.0 L) Hemi version.


The hood pins are apparently factory, not aftermarket.



K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld.

Comments welcome.


-bmw

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread Graydon

On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:03:36PM -0400, John Sessoms scripsit:
> From: "P. J. Alling"
> >On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote:
> >>> What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
> >>> concern him.
> 
> >What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a
> >Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse.
> 
> That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi
> sympathizer at the time he abdicated. That came later.

As I recall, what came out when the 50 year hold period on cabinet
archives expired was that they knew there was a leak near the king,
suspected a mistress, bugged the bedroom, and found out that the leak to
the Nazis was the king.

There was a discussion about how to deal with it that included utilizing
the precedent of Headless Chuck; it was decided that abdication worked
better.  And then they stuck him in some Caribbean location through
WWII, because he didn't quite take the hint.

> I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales.

There are a bunch of people singing "Wha'll be king but Charlie?" with
rather different emphasis these days, to be sure.

-- Graydon

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RE: Extra Bovril rations...

2010-07-05 Thread John Sessoms


From: "Bob W"

...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


My guess is it's a frame for restraining young bulls for castration.

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Re: OT: Happy Canada Day

2010-07-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"

On 7/4/2010 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote:

>
> What matters is that he should stop interfering in matters that don't
> concern him.
>
> Bob

What counted against him was that he was suspected of being a 
Nazi/German sympathizer, all else was a convenient excuse.

That was Edward VIII and I don't think he was seen as a Nazi sympathizer 
at the time he abdicated. That came later.

I think Bob's fussing about the current Prince of Wales.

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Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system

2010-07-05 Thread Igor Roshchin


http://reason.com/blog/2010/07/02/ignorance-of-the-law-is-no-exc
(for more detail read each of the linked blogs.
Ledford's blog is actually a funny read.)

Igor

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Re: PESO - Latch


On Jul 5, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> Automotive minimalism.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
> http://snipurl.com/z0pug
> 

Very nice.  I can't recognize the car it's on though.


> K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> -bmw
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Re: PESO - Latch


Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Awesome shadow, and nice colors.  I love it!

Dan



Appreciated, Dan!

-bmw



On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

Automotive minimalism.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
http://snipurl.com/z0pug

K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld.

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Re: Sorting photos

On Jul 5, 2010, at 3:01 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>> 
>>> Larry Colen wrote:
 I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting 
 them out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't 
 perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket 
 camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and 
 focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's 
 faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused 
 that they are.
 While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, 
 software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria 
 (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post 
 processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately 
 goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that 
 have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what 
 I do, it would be a huge help.
 --
 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>>> 
>>> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to 
>>> edit.
>> 
>> A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the 
>> exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything 
>> in full manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for 
>> me, I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time 
>> consuming tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see 
>> which ones really are sharp enough to blow up. 
>> 
> "Sharp" is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be 
> acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a 
> static, posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own 
> calls. Software can't do that for you.
> Paul
> 

"Sharp enough" is a judgement call.  Sharpness, on the other hand, should be 
quantifiable.  

For example, there is edge detection software that can detect the edges of 
various shapes. If the values change completely from one pixel to another, that 
would be "perfectly sharp". If we rate blurriness, as the inverse of sharpness 
as the width of the transition, we get increasingly blurry images:

 (just showing one dimension)
blurriness 0:
255,255,255,255,000,000,000,000
blurriness 2:
255,255,255,170,085,000,000,000
blurriness 4:
255,255,200,150,100,050,000,000
blurriness 6:
255,219,182,146,109,073,036,000

So, in some cases, you might set your threshold somewhere between 0&2, and in 
other cases between 4&6.  However, if I have a bunch of photos that are all 
nearly the same,  it would be handy to have the machine rate them in order of 
blurriness, so that I could then go and look at the sharpest couple of photos 
and see which ones I like the best, and spend a lot less time looking at the 
photos below, or well below, the threshold.

I can see why detecting edges in two dimensions would be a lot more work, much 
less measuring the edge thickness.  But when a $1,000 desktop computer has 
enough power that it would have given Seymour Cray a priapism, not that many 
years ago (assuming he was still alive anyways), a two or three pass process 
that finds the faces, finds the edges in the faces, and measures the blurriness 
of those edges shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  As a photographer, what 
I do with that information is up to me.

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Re: PESO: Goldeneye


Bob W wrote:


The darned thing has golden eyes!



The name's Pond. James Pond.


I prefer the original, Pond Connery.




not Froger Moore then?


Nor his nemesis, Toadfinger.

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread paul stenquist


On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> 
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting 
>>> them out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't 
>>> perfectly, or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket 
>>> camera, with a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and 
>>> focus on them, but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's 
>>> faces and looking at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused 
>>> that they are.
>>> While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, 
>>> software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria 
>>> (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post 
>>> processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately 
>>> goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that 
>>> have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I 
>>> do, it would be a huge help.
>>> --
>>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>> 
>> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit.
> 
> A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the 
> exposure of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in 
> full manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, 
> I'm looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming 
> tasks, taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones 
> really are sharp enough to blow up. 
> 
"Sharp" is a judgement call. No photo is perfectly sharp. And what might be 
acceptably sharp for an action pic might not be acceptably shapt for a static, 
posed photo. And that's just the beginning. You gotta make your own calls. 
Software can't do that for you.
Paul

> 
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Re: PESO - chillin' on a hot day

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Cute as always.

Dan

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> The temperature hit 94 degrees F today. Grace cooled off in a local lake:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11227354&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Latch

2010-07-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Awesome shadow, and nice colors.  I love it!

Dan

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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread George Sinos

The odd thing about Adobe is where they decide to put various features.

The least expensive photo editing/organizing product, Photoshop
Elements 8, has this feature.  It does a lot of autotagging of photos
in the library.  One of the tags is an "out of focus" tag.  There are
several others, "too bright," "too dark," etc.

I'm working from memory here, so the names of the tags may be slightly
different.  And, from my limited experience, the tags aren't 100
percent accurate.

I've often wondered how much of the lightroom catalog code may be
based on the PE organizer code.

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> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them 
> out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or 
> even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a 
> dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I 
> don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge 
> sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.
>
> While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, 
> software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria 
> (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post 
> processing.
>
> Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with 
> sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some 
> technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it 
> would be a huge help.
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Re: PESO - chillin' on a hot day

2010-07-05 Thread Jack Davis

With her looks, there will come a day when Grace will hate the paparazzi. Their 
cameras, however, will always love her.

Jack

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> Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 1:42 PM
> The temperature hit 94 degrees F
> today. Grace cooled off in a local lake:
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Re: Florac and faunac

2010-07-05 Thread Cotty

On 5/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>< http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ >

It's now official. I hate you.

I can't tell you how jealous I am.

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RE: OT: cycle trip

> > good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your
> trip. I
> > tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km.
> Couldn't
> > do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas!
> 
> 1 km of 30% grade?  That's impressive.  I think that the steepest road
> around here is only about 24% for a short while, the whole road only
> climbs 630km in 6.3 km

it's not a particularly steep road - it's 1km as the crow flies, but it
switchbacks on itself several times to keep the gradient reasonable, and
ends up as 5.8km as the bike wobbles. But still too much for me on someone
else's mountain bike, carrying a backpack, in 30+ degrees of heat. I hate
mountain bikes - can't understand why people use them at all.

< http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3858684 >




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Re: Sorting photos


On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> Larry Colen wrote:
>> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them 
>> out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, 
>> or even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with 
>> a dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, 
>> but I don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking 
>> at edge sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.
>> While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, 
>> software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria 
>> (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post 
>> processing. Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately 
>> goofing with sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that 
>> have some technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I 
>> do, it would be a huge help.
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> Sorry, Larry, but a big part of being a photographer is learning how to edit.

A big part of being a photographer is knowing how to focus and set the exposure 
of your camera, how many pros do you think still shoot everything in full 
manual?  I'm not looking for something that'll edit everything for me, I'm 
looking for something that'll speed up one of the most time consuming tasks, 
taking a pass through the photos, pixel peeping to see which ones really are 
sharp enough to blow up. 


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PESO - chillin' on a hot day

2010-07-05 Thread P N Stenquist

The temperature hit 94 degrees F today. Grace cooled off in a local  
lake:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11227354&size=lg

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Re: OT: cycle trip


On Jul 3, 2010, at 2:03 AM, Bob W wrote:

> good luck, and enjoy - I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip. I
> tried cycling up the Causse Mejan on Tuesday - a 500m climb in 1km. Couldn't
> do it. Best of luck with the Himalayas!

1 km of 30% grade?  That's impressive.  I think that the steepest road around 
here is only about 24% for a short while, the whole road only climbs 630km in 
6.3 km  


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> Bob
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Subash
>> Sent: 03 July 2010 02:07
>> To: pdml@pdml.net
>> Subject: Re: OT: cycle trip
>> 
>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:02:37 +0200
>> eckinator  wrote:
>> 
>>> good luck subash and enjoy your trip
>> 
>> thanks Ecke for the wishes. and Paul, Stan, Bob and Evan too. the good
>> news for me is that i have found the means to take the kx.
>> 
>> regards, subash
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RE: PESO: Goldeneye

> >>
> >> The darned thing has golden eyes!
> >>
> >
> > The name's Pond. James Pond.
> 
> I prefer the original, Pond Connery.
> 

not Froger Moore then?

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

On Jul 4, 2010, at 6:13 PM, John Celio wrote:

> My bicycle, which was my only mode of transportation, was stolen this 
> morning.  It was locked up in front of my condo and they cut the locks like 
> they were made of celery.  This completely ruined my 4th of July, but more 
> importantly it's a whole lot of money that suddenly needs to be spent to get 
> back to where I was.  Money I don't have.  My bike was practically brand new 
> (maybe two months old?) and I'd put a bunch of accessories on it, and now I 
> have nothing.

Ouch. Major suckage!

I've read that bike thefts are a major secondary effect of the meth epidemic.  
I'd never leave a bike visibly parked outside for any length of time.  Bolt 
cutters aren't expensive and make short work of locks.  

I'm still hurting from one night where it seems I neglected to lock my garage 
door, it probably got blown open a bit and a bunch of my snap-on combination 
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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Adam Maas

Capture One Pro 5 has a focus filter that highlights areas of the
photo that appear to be in focus. So yes, such a thing does exist. It
is however notoriously hard on processing hardware.

-Adam

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them 
> out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or 
> even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a 
> dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I 
> don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge 
> sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.
>
> While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, 
> software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria 
> (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post 
> processing.
>
> Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with 
> sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some 
> technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it 
> would be a huge help.
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Re: Florac and faunac


Bob W wrote:


[...]


< http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ >
Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams!


http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html
Carline thistle Carlina acaulis

http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html
Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius

http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html
(and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi

I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids.



I'm very impressed that you got those thistles and the butterflies/moth
right. When I described the swallowtail to Alastair and Masha they both
immediately suggested hawk moth. Whatever. It was a lovely friendly little
creature with a very graceful soaring flight, almost never flapping its
wings.

The orchids were quite common. Alastair seemed to like them, but also did
not know more precisely what they are. I didn't even know they were orchids.



Orchids are the bonobos of the plant world.  If you have two species 
growing in a place there will be 57 different hybrids, also.


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Re: Sorting photos

2010-07-05 Thread Doug Brewer


Larry Colen wrote:

I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them 
out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or 
even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a 
dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I 
don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge 
sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.

While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post processing. 


Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with 
sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some 
technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would 
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Re: PESO: Goldeneye

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> I was walking along the Mississippi river at twilight when this little
>> guy hopped across the path and then he just STOPPED.
>>
>> I popped the Tamron 90mm onto the K-7 and started snapping.. closer and
>> closer... finally I'm right down on the ground with the lens about 8
>> inches away from his face.  The sun had set so I was down to:
>>
>> ISO 800, f5.6, 1/4 second
>>
>> The darned thing has golden eyes!
>>
>
> The name's Pond. James Pond.

I prefer the original, Pond Connery.

Dave

BTW lovely shot./

Dave
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>
>> http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/IMGP2883.jpg
>>
>>  -Charles
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Sorting photos

I did some family portraits yesterday, and am going through and sorting them 
out.  After making a pass to throw out all the ones that aren't perfectly, or 
even sufficiently in focus I wonder why I could buy a pocket camera, with a 
dinky embedded processor that'll find people's faces and focus on them, but I 
don't have something in lightroom to find people's faces and looking at edge 
sharpness (eyes, hair etc) rate how well focused that they are.

While I wouldn't want software to rate the artistic merits of a photo, software 
that would rate and sort photos by various technical criteria (focus, 
sharpness, exposure, ...)  would save me a lot of time in post processing. 

Sure, there are pathologic cases where you're deliberately goofing with 
sharpness or exposure, and there maybe some great photos that have some 
technical flaw, but which are still great, but for most of what I do, it would 
be a huge help.

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Re: Pentax gear...


David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

So many pun-chures.


You spoke to soon

Dave


This thread's going where angels fear to tread.

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On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> So many pun-chures.

You spoke to soon

Dave
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Sun, 7/4/10, Cotty  wrote:
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>> From: Cotty 
>> Subject: Re: Pentax gear...
>> To: "pentax list" 
>> Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 12:53 PM
>> On 4/7/10, Roman Melihhov,
>> discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>> >http://4models.info/images/0.en.png
>> >
>> >Just fun, I use this image for model candidates without
>> photos on file.
>>
>> That's wheely good.
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Re: PESO - Latch


David J Brooks wrote:

I like the crispness and colour here. The shodow is nice

Dave


Thank you, Dave.

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Automotive minimalism.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
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K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld.

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I like the crispness and colour here. The shodow is nice

Dave

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> Automotive minimalism.
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
> http://snipurl.com/z0pug
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Re: Peso: Smokeys


On Jul 5, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> You looked while I was updating these.  Please check again at
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970
> 
> As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point.
> But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space.
> I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast.


I think that really helps bring them out.  I can't seem to get the lightroom 
curve to do what I want it to, so I just frob the dials.

> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Say's photo not found
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
>>> It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
>>> but it made the scenery very smokey.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174
>>> 
>>> Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

I'm glad to hear you've gotten some relief from the credit card insurance.

Don't want to raise my blood pressure so I won't go on with what I
think about thieves.
May the miserable bastards have their gonads roasted prior to being removed.
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Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?

2010-07-05 Thread Kenneth Waller

Not here.


-Original Message-
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>- Original Message - 
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>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:01 PM
>Subject: Re: have pdml exhibitors heard from Sue?
>
>
>> Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> If you haven't heard from Sue, could you let me know either on list or 
>>> off list, doesn't matter.  I'd like to know.  Just an FYI, I haven't 
>>> heard from her either, though I have sent word to her.  Cheers, Christine
>>
>> Haven't heard anything yet.
>
>
>hmmm.  Thanks for letting me know, Bruce.  Cheers, Christine 
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RE: Extra Bovril rations...

Not bad, not bad!

It's obvious when you know - it's a ferradou, of course!

Here's the sign:
< http://www.web-options.com/Ferradou.jpg >

It says "This device or ferradou was used for shoeing oxen. It is situated
on the fairground, near the public weighscale, where Florac's 13 annual
fairs used to take place. There you could find 'beasts with horns' (bovines)
and 'beasts with wool' (ovines), pigs, horses and all sorts of merchandise.
In earlier times these fairs attracted the farming population from the
surrounding area and made up an essential element of the economic and social
life of the country. They were a place of exchange between neighouring
regions. These days cattle are no longer traded in this way, but more modest
fairs remain each month, such as a weekly market on Thursdays"

Here's one in use in the Basque country in the 1970s, as photographed by
William Albert Allard and published in his book "A Time We Knew":
< http://www.web-options.com/Ferradou-1.jpg >

Bob

> 
> My first thought is that it is a milking station, but the location
> seems odd, plus the structure is a bit too tall. And too complicated -
> it shouldn't need that many adjustment points. Something having to do
> with animal restraining though.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Bob W wrote:
> 
> > ...if you can identify this thing:
> >
> > < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
> > < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
> > < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >
> >
> > Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
> > otherwise.

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

2010-07-05 Thread eckinator

2010/7/5 John Celio :
>
> I checked with my credit card company and they
> do cover purchases lost due to damage or theft for up to 90 days, so I was
> able to file claims for the bike and the little computer that was on it.

Awesome! Good to know you'll be back on the road soon.
Now all we need to do is hook him up with a new stick of celery ]=)
I looked up the price of your bike, John, and I doubt the 10% of bike
price rule for the lock would apply if you seriously want to impress
anyone with it.
Again, great news!!
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Re: Florac and faunac

2010-07-05 Thread eckinator

Do you buy your books from fnac then?

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RE: Florac and faunac

[...]
> >
> > < http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ >
> > Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams!
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html
> Carline thistle Carlina acaulis
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html
> Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius
> 
> http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html
> (and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi
> 
> I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids.

I'm very impressed that you got those thistles and the butterflies/moth
right. When I described the swallowtail to Alastair and Masha they both
immediately suggested hawk moth. Whatever. It was a lovely friendly little
creature with a very graceful soaring flight, almost never flapping its
wings.

The orchids were quite common. Alastair seemed to like them, but also did
not know more precisely what they are. I didn't even know they were orchids.

You'd love it there.

Bob


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Re: Florac and faunac


Bob W wrote:


Here is a rather large gallery of photographs I took on holiday which show
the trails I walked on the Causse Mejean & and other nearby hills. Don't
feel obliged to look at all of them - it is a large gallery, but I wanted to
show something of the variety of landscape and wildlife up there. 


As Dominique said before I left, there are lots of hills and grass. I can
now tell you that there's more to it than that - they have rocks too.

< http://www.web-options.com/Causse/ >
Comments welcome, but please note I already know I'm no Ansel Adams!


http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226656_large.html
Carline thistle Carlina acaulis

http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6226670_large.html
Scarce swallowtail Papilio podalirius

http://www.web-options.com/Causse/content/_6267019_large.html
(and previous) Black-veined white Aporia crataegi

I'm not even going to hazard a guess at the orchids.


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Re: Extra Bovril rations...


Bob W wrote:


...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


Cattle scales?


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Re: Extra Bovril rations...


Bob W wrote:


...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


Loading jig, for those photos of donkeys with house-sized burdens of hay?

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Re: Extra Bovril rations...


Bob W wrote:


...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


Human equivalent of the mounting stool for when the poor wife has to 
carry her drunken shepherd husband back up the mountain at the end of 
market day?


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Re: Extra Bovril rations...

2010-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin

My first thought is that it is a milking station, but the location seems odd, 
plus the structure is a bit too tall. And too complicated - it shouldn't need 
that many adjustment points. Something having to do with animal restraining 
though.

stan

On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:16 AM, Bob W wrote:

> ...if you can identify this thing:
> 
> < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
> < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
> < http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >
> 
> Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
> otherwise.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Extra Bovril rations...


Bob W wrote:


...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


Kiddie gym for mouflons?

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Re: Extra Bovril rations...

2010-07-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele




Bob W wrote:


...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.



 



I can't but sure would like to know what it is
( a chair for giants that lost the cane webbing?)

ann


 





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Re: Peso: Smokeys

2010-07-05 Thread Stan Halpin

I really like KMGP3769. I might tweak the cropping slightly ( a bit off the 
upper left corner, a bit more off the lower right corner to move the tree more 
off-center) but that is really a minor niggle. It is very very nice as is.

stan

On Jul 5, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Dave,
> You looked while I was updating these.  Please check again at
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970
> 
> As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point.
> But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space.
> I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Say's photo not found
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
>>> It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
>>> but it made the scenery very smokey.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174
>>> 
>>> Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
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RE: Boris, some PESOs


I love the shot of the 2 bikes parked on the corner. Bikes are like dogs.
They make good shapes to be in photos.

B

> 
> Hi!
> 
> I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes:
> 
> #25 (Mondial):
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html
> 
> #26 (Shabazi 67):
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html
> 
> #27 (Not staged):
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html
> 
> #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-
> etude.html
> 
> In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2.
> 
> Please be brutal and honest...
> 
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Re: Boris, some PESOs

Boris,
I enjoyed Mondial, the guy seems to be cramed onto a very small scooter!
Shabazi 67 I don't understand.  I cannot make out the lower right of the window.
Not Staged and Etude are the best photos in my opinion.
The symetry in Not Staged is charming and begs us to think about how
it happened.
I like Etude but wish you had a bit more depth of field to it.
I expected to see the leaf is sharp focus too!
Hope you're not roasting in the summer heat.
Regards, Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> "Not Staged" is enjoyably unique. Small blossoms in "Etude" are strewn in an 
> interesting way. I agree that something else is needed in the frame, but the 
> dead leaves may not be it.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>
>> From: Boris Liberman 
>> Subject: Boris, some PESOs
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 6:07 AM
>> Hi!
>>
>> I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here
>> goes:
>>
>> #25 (Mondial): 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html
>>
>> #26 (Shabazi 67): 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html
>>
>> #27 (Not staged): 
>> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html
>>
>> #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html
>>
>> In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7
>> and A 50/1.2.
>>
>> Please be brutal and honest...
>>
>> Boris
>>
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Re: Peso: Smokeys

Thanks for looking Boris and Dave (twice!)Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Ah. # 3769 is very well done.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Dave,
>> You looked while I was updating these.  Please check again at
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970
>>
>> As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point.
>> But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space.
>> I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> Say's photo not found
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
 Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
 It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
 but it made the scenery very smokey.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

 Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
 Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT PESO - Krazee

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:38 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> You're too harsh on yourself. Your face isn't broken, it has "character"

You haven't seen me for a while, have you.:-)
>
> This was shot on the ice & I am please to say that I somehow managed
> to not fall over & break my arse bone.
>
> Not bad for a lad who's main experience with ice is in >drinks.

Then well done Sir.

Dave
>
> DS
>
> On 4 July 2010 08:19, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> As some one who played goal for various ice hockey teams from 1965 to
>> 1973, nice shot Dave. If not for a broken face in 1973, i'd still be
>> playing.,
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 12:27 PM, David Savage  wrote:
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> Meet Krazee...:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> ...he's one of the goalies for a local ice hockey team, mostly made up
>>> of ex-pat Canadians (Krazee, is a token Aussie)
>>>
>>> D700, AF-S 70-200mm @ 125mm, 1/160 @ f11, ISO 200
>>>
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>>> SB600  camera left
>>> SB28 camera right
>>>
>>> Enjoy & have at it.
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Re: Peso: Smokeys

Ah. # 3769 is very well done.

Dave

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> You looked while I was updating these.  Please check again at
>
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>
> As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point.
> But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space.
> I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Say's photo not found
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>>> Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
>>> It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
>>> but it made the scenery very smokey.
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174
>>>
>>> Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
>>> Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Peso: Smokeys

Dave,
You looked while I was updating these.  Please check again at

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11225970

As per Larry's suggestion, I fiddled with contrast and black point.
But I did it all with curves, stretching the histogram across the space.
I think they look a bit better, more detail and contrast.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Say's photo not found
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
>> It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
>> but it made the scenery very smokey.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174
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Re: Peso: Smokeys

Say's photo not found

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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

:-)

Like it. Just a chute to the recycled paper bin and I'd install it ...

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>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html
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> ;-)
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Re: PESO Misty Morning


On 6/30/2010 12:45 AM, eckinator wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/eckinator4PDML
Good? Bad? Ugly? Let me know!
Enjoy
Ecke


Totally reminiscent of avatar.

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Re: GESO - Flowers in the Dirt


On 6/30/2010 8:44 PM, Tom C wrote:

A 3-image gallery... fallen Blue Flax...

http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=507278



You will have to call the next one "My Brave Face", you know...

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Re: PESO: Goldeneye


On 7/4/2010 8:29 PM, Bob W wrote:

The name's Pond. James Pond.


Oh yeah ;-).

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Re: Peso: Smokeys

I cannot help but point out that you seem to be out to compete with Tom 
C... And also I am thinking that Smokeys are indeed smokey ;-).


Boris

On 7/4/2010 9:25 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Here's a shot or 3 from Smokey Mountains National Park.
It was raining on our way back from Grandfather Mountain,
but it made the scenery very smokey.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1174

Comments, advise, and criticism solicited...
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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

I am thinking it is not reverse psychology, it is simply a junk mail 
folder ;-).


Boris

On 7/5/2010 1:44 AM, frank theriault wrote:

I wonder if it works:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: Boris, some PESOs

2010-07-05 Thread Jack Davis

"Not Staged" is enjoyably unique. Small blossoms in "Etude" are strewn in an 
interesting way. I agree that something else is needed in the frame, but the 
dead leaves may not be it. 

Jack

--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> From: Boris Liberman 
> Subject: Boris, some PESOs
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 6:07 AM
> Hi!
> 
> I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here
> goes:
> 
> #25 (Mondial): 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html
> 
> #26 (Shabazi 67): 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html
> 
> #27 (Not staged): 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html
> 
> #28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html
> 
> In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7
> and A 50/1.2.
> 
> Please be brutal and honest...
> 
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Boris, some PESOs


Hi!

I seem to be falling behind in PESOs one more time. So here goes:

#25 (Mondial): 
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-25-mondial.html


#26 (Shabazi 67): 
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-26-shabazi-67.html


#27 (Not staged): 
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-27-not-staged.html


#28 (Etude): http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/07/peso-2010-28-etude.html

In sooth, I don't think I need any other gear sans my K-7 and A 50/1.2.

Please be brutal and honest...

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PESO - Latch


Automotive minimalism.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/4761915277/lightbox/
http://snipurl.com/z0pug

K20D, DA* 16-50 @ 36mm, f/5.6, 1/750th, ISO 200. Handheld.

Comments welcome.

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Re: OT Need advice - My bike was stolen

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, John Celio  wrote:
>>> Do credit card companies help with
>>> these sorts of things?
>>
>> If you bought it with a credit card, you might be covered on it by
>> purchase insurance.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I checked with my credit card company and they
> do cover purchases lost due to damage or theft for up to 90 days, so I was
> able to file claims for the bike and the little computer that was on it.  My
> other stuff was old, but if I can get a replacement bike I'll be happier
> than a hog in slop.  I imagine the paperwork will take a few weeks, but it's
> definitely better than having to start over cold.

You may also want to try contacting someone in the local bike
community - citizens' cycling lobby or advocacy groups, bike
messengers, that sort of thing.  They may know of one or several "hot
shops", fences who are known to take in hot bikes for resale.  Often
when confronted by the real owners they'll give the bike back or
"sell" it to the real owner for next to nothing, so as to make sure
the police aren't contacted.

It may be worth a shot.

Best of luck!  Losing a bike is a horrible thing.

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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Bong Manayon  wrote:

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> I enjoyed!  Btw, didn't we have a PUG theme on mailboxes...I should look...

YES!

Mailboxes is for July's PUG.  It has now been resized and submitted.
Thanks for the reminder.

And thanks to everyone who looked and commented!

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> If I understand how Flickr works, this photo should be "private", visible
> only to "family". The link below should make you all part of that family.
>
> http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf
>
> This is an example of the kind of work I'm having to do for school. This was
> one of my "weeklies", rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's
> the best grade I've gotten so far in the class.
>
> The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on
> the field. In fact, if you look on the right hand side, you can see the
> strobe head.
>
> I'll take it down next week when I get home and back to my email.

Pure Americana.

Brilliant!

cheers,
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Re: Extra Bovril rations...

2010-07-05 Thread Keith Whaley


Bob W wrote:

...if you can identify this thing:

< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-1.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-2.jpg >
< http://www.web-options.com/Boeuf-3.jpg >

Hint: it's nothing to do with executing royalty, French, British or
otherwise.


Sorry...not even the promise of extra rations of Bovril lends any sense to 
what that small structure might possibly be!


Perhaps a closeup of the sign to the left of the art object itself?

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Re: PESO: A baseball photo

I got in ok. Must be family.:-)

Nice photo, well done. Just enough light on the watchers. Sunset is
exposed well. The one field light right in the middle is a bit
distracting, but hey, its a night game right.;-)

Dave

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>
> http://flic.kr/p/8fMeQf
>
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> one of my "weeklies", rated 4 out of a possible 5 by the instructor. It's
> the best grade I've gotten so far in the class.
>
> The people are lit with a Vivitar 285HV balanced with the ambient light on
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> strobe head.
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Re: PESO - Reverse Psychology?

Its full of piranha

Dave

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Did you check to see if the box had a bottom?
>
> Dan
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:44 PM, frank theriault
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>>
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/07/reverse-psychology.html
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>> ;-)
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Re: PESO - Incoming

Looks good to me Frank. Good job.

For some reason not a lot of bee's around the yard this year.

Dave

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> Not as sharp as I might like, but I'm still pretty damned happy with it:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/incoming.html
>
> With the Tamron SP 90mm f2.5 macro manual focus.
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