[q] Micronet SCSI card drivers
I asked a long time ago but will try again. Anybody happen to have drivers for the Micronet NP-2 Nupro II Nubus SCSI card? Or maybe a manual for setting up the jumper switches? Thanks -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] gamba (Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card))
Sque wrote: does anyone know where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs. I've heard that Gamba is no longer with us. Tim -- Tim LarsonSenior Web Developer Physicians' Mutual Insurance Company www.pmic.com This message and any attachments are confidential, may contain privileged information, and are intended solely for the recipient named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivery to the named recipient, you are notified that any review, distribution, dissemination or copying is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, you should notify the sender by return email and delete the message from your computer system. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
Stephen Alexander wrote: try emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone pays for that web page to be active, so maybe they answer email. - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 554 This mailbox is full. Please try again later. for [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Its been that way for a long time. The page hasn't been update since 2003 around the time of his last post to a LEM list. The site is hosted by someone that doesn't mean its the author of the site though I wish it was. Neither Gamba or Bhavesh appear to maintain their excellent sites nor do they post on the lem lists (not the ones they used to). I hope I'm wrong about Bhavesh, I haven't seen his name around for some time. cheers, oh setient, mirror the sites by all means, sadly you'd be a couple of years to late to have it all, on the upside some of us already have. :) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
Hi folks, I have just recently (thanks to help from this list) got this computer back up and running. However, I'm having no luck getting it online - I have what appears to be a sonic-t comm slot ethernet card, running System 7.5.5. I did some research and it seems I'm not alone with this issue. This article(http://lowendmac.com/macdan/02/0922dk.html) on LEM directed me to http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/network.shtml however that link no longer appears to be a Mac driver site. So... I was hoping that someone had a copy of this driver or knew where one could be obtained. Thanks for any help! Take care, Chris -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
Chris Zantides wrote: Hi folks, I have just recently (thanks to help from this list) got this computer back up and running. However, I'm having no luck getting it online - I have what appears to be a sonic-t comm slot ethernet card, running System 7.5.5. I did some research and it seems I'm not alone with this issue. This article(http://lowendmac.com/macdan/02/0922dk.html) on LEM directed me to http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/network.shtml however that link no longer appears to be a Mac driver site. http://www.macdrivermuseum.net/network.shtml The driver museum has moved about a bit in the last couple of years. Post the name of the file you need if the site doesn't help. cheers -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
Chris Zantides wrote: Thats awesome! Thank you kindly. Bookmark it and pass it on. The museum hasn't been updated almost as long as gamba's site, thankfully both remain. Grab a few files (not the whole page/site) each time you visit so together we can supply files if the site disappears. Have a poke around http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/ it's a little hard to navigate but still worth the effort for tools/utilities, does anyone know where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs. cheers -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
or i could mirror stuff on one of my many servers. On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, Sque wrote: Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:37:38 +1000 From: Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card) Chris Zantides wrote: Thats awesome! Thank you kindly. Bookmark it and pass it on. The museum hasn't been updated almost as long as gamba's site, thankfully both remain. Grab a few files (not the whole page/site) each time you visit so together we can supply files if the site disappears. Have a poke around http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/ it's a little hard to navigate but still worth the effort for tools/utilities, does anyone know where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs. cheers -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)
try emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone pays for that web page to be active, so maybe they answer email. -Original Message- From: Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 2, 2005 7:37 AM To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card) Have a poke around http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/ it's a little hard to navigate but still worth the effort for tools/utilities, does anyone know where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
At 15:59 -0500 31/03/05, Powermac wrote: I didn't see drivers for any of the cards I listed there, these are not common radius boards. Well, I didn't check the site, was just what came to mind - too bad about macdrivermuseum, I have no idea where to look then, other than http://google.com/mac /Tina -- *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
Anybody have drivers for the following vintage nubus cards?: National Instruments 1998 NB-DIO-32F Rev D Part# 700587-01 Assy: 180505-1 Rev D (Digital I/O card for data aquisition) Spectral Innovations, inc 1993 MacDSP II/C Rev B (DSP Card found in a Cactus system) Nuport II by Micronet FCC ID:HEQ297NP Model: NP-2 1991 by Micronet Tech, Inc P/N: 9101675-02 (50 Pin scsi card, only driver I seen was password protected) Sigma Designs 1991 Doubleup Rev 2.11 ROM:DUAM2 2.00 (Hardware HD compression board) Storm Technology, Inc 1992 SCNB-1.0 (DSP Board) Supermac 1991 1003359-0001A Spigot Nubus Ver 1.0 ROM ASSY: 0007532-0001 Rev A (Single RCA in video capture board, think I seen OS 6 drivers but not sure) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
At 15:22 -0500 31/03/05, Powermac wrote: Anybody have drivers for the following vintage nubus cards? Did you try: http://macdrivermuseum.com ? /Tina -- *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
At 22:49 +0200 31/03/05, I wrote: Did you try: http://macdrivermuseum.com ? Sorry, don't bother yourself with that page, seems it's gone. Try http://jagshouse.com instead /Tina -- *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
on 3/31/05 2:56 PM, Tina Holm at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 22:49 +0200 31/03/05, I wrote: Did you try: http://macdrivermuseum.com ? Sorry, don't bother yourself with that page, seems it's gone. Try http://jagshouse.com instead /Tina Crap, I was afraid of that. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed
- Original Message - From: Tina Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [q] Nubus Card Drivers Needed At 22:49 +0200 31/03/05, I wrote: Did you try: http://macdrivermuseum.com ? Sorry, don't bother yourself with that page, seems it's gone. Try http://jagshouse.com instead /Tina -- *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* I didn't see drivers for any of the cards I listed there, these are not common radius boards. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] FA: Quadra - PowerPC Upgrade Card
My reply follows quote. On 1/30/05, at 6:12 -0500, Dan Knight wrote: I know we ban auction postings on the Swap list. We only *discourage* (but don't ban) such postings on the other lists. dk I stand corrected. My apologies to the list and to Mr. Brock Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quadlist and PCIPowerMacs Nanny -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] FA: Quadra - PowerPC Upgrade Card
My reply follows quote. On 1/28/05, at 22:26 -0800, Brock Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Re: FA: Quadra - PowerPC Upgrade Card, wrote: Hi all, I hope this isn't considered spam, Yeah, it is. Posting auctions sites is a no-no. I'd generally let one boo-boo pass (anyone can make a mistake) with just a warning. But this fellow subscribed at 00:20:01 today, leading me to think it was just to make an illegal posting (Note he says: Again, I apologize if this message isn't considered appropriate for the list. I really don't even know how many people are on this list. Rest assured, this will be my only message to the list. I'd say if he knows about the quadlist, he oughta know about the SwapList. And the apologies tend to make me think he knows better: Yeah it's his last, he's banned. To be fair, his eBay history as jokerswild99 began Oct-26-99 and it's apparently OK. He's 100 percent positive in feedback. -- HTH, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quadlist and PCIPowerMacs Nanny (On the other hand, since I have been known to make mistakes, Brock is welcome to write and explain. Frankly I doubt I'll hear from him.) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] Nubus card drivers
Anybody here seen drivers for a Spectral Innovations Mac DSP II/C Rev B DSP card? or the original drivers for the Micronet Nuport II SCSI card? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]What's the best NuBus video card?
I'm looking for a really nice card for my Q840AV, and found a page http://www.lowendmac.com/macdan/2k1010cl.html that I thought would answer my question, but the story has been removed. So now I'm asking this list for advice, since I couldn't find it in the archives. The 840 only supports 2MB VRAM itself, so I was wondering if there is one that supports 4, 6, or 8 MB and fast video. I don't need any special I/O, just a normal monitor. Thanks, Tim -- Tim Larson, Webmaster Skin Specialists - LovelySkin.com 402.334.SKIN For a more beautiful you, surf us! -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]Re: What's the best NuBus video card?
On 2/12/2004 11:17 AM, Powermac felt like writing: I think the fastest boards were the ones made by Radius for the last nubus macs (Radius Thunder IV Gx 1600) since by that time they were one of the few companies left. The built in video is generally faster then anything you can plug into a slow nubus slot, but you are limited to 2mb of vram. Since the 840AV machine has built in DSP's finding a video card with dsp's (the radius I mentioned) would probably be a waste of time (and doesn't work with os 8.x I believe). I have an inexpensive Supermac Thunder 24 (Radius purchased The speed of Nubus hadn't crossed my mind. Good point. Any rough ideas on how much speed one gets from DSPs? Too bad there isn't a card that would just add VRAM slots. Has it been confirmed that the 840 can't use VRAM chips larger than 256k? Just because Apple didn't certify it doesn't mean it won't work; witness the SE/30 and 16MB SIMMs. I am using MacOS 7.6.1 and NetBSD on my Quadra. I probably should have mentioned that. Supermac and rebadged some cards I believe) board in my 950 system that allows for high resolution video (has 3mb+ of memory?) a.. 640x480 up to 24-bit b.. 832x624 up to 24-bit c.. 1024x768 (at 75 Hz) up to 24-bit d.. 1152x870 up to 24-bit I suppose I could reverse all these numbers to figure out how much RAM it must have, but it's going to be awfully tedious to do this for all the cards I find online. (Seems to be 3MB if my math is right.) Interesting that video cards used to be sold by the res/color modes they supported, and now they're simply sold by how much VRAM is onboard. Maybe my best bet is to just make sure I have my VRAM maxxed out. I don't know if hunting/paying for a slow 3 or 4MB card is going to be better than the fast 2MB I could have otherwise. Tim -- Tim Larson, Webmaster Skin Specialists - LovelySkin.com 402.334.SKIN For a more beautiful you, surf us! -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]Re: What's the best NuBus video card?
On 13/02/2004, at 5:10 AM, Tim Larson wrote: On 2/12/2004 11:17 AM, Powermac felt like writing: I think the fastest boards were the ones made by Radius for the last nubus macs (Radius Thunder IV Gx 1600) since by that time they were one of the few companies left. The built in video is generally faster then anything you can plug into a slow nubus slot, but you are limited to 2mb of vram. Since the 840AV machine has built in DSP's finding a video card with dsp's (the radius I mentioned) would probably be a waste of time (and doesn't work with os 8.x I believe). I have an inexpensive Supermac Thunder 24 (Radius purchased The speed of Nubus hadn't crossed my mind. Good point. Any rough ideas on how much speed one gets from DSPs? I have a Thunder IV 1360, and using it in a Powermac 7100 with the DSP plugins for photoshop 4.0 lets it resize/gaussian blur/some other filters almost the speed of my G3/400 iMac (tested on some of large images). It's a phenomenal boost for those features it helps. For everything else, it's just a nice quick and featureful NuBus graphics card. It does run a little slower in the 68ks I've used it on, but not in any way deficient. If you like flashing lights, it's a nice card too. There's a row of LEDs on the card itself that indicate when a DSP is being used. They flash away like crazy in photoshop :) dana -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]Re: What's the best NuBus video card?
- Original Message - From: Tim Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: [q]Re: What's the best NuBus video card? On 2/12/2004 11:17 AM, Powermac felt like writing: I think the fastest boards were the ones made by Radius for the last nubus macs (Radius Thunder IV Gx 1600) since by that time they were one of the few companies left. The built in video is generally faster then anything you can plug into a slow nubus slot, but you are limited to 2mb of vram. Since the 840AV machine has built in DSP's finding a video card with dsp's (the radius I mentioned) would probably be a waste of time (and doesn't work with os 8.x I believe). I have an inexpensive Supermac Thunder 24 (Radius purchased The speed of Nubus hadn't crossed my mind. Good point. Any rough ideas on how much speed one gets from DSPs? Too bad there isn't a card that would just add VRAM slots. Has it been confirmed that the 840 can't use VRAM chips larger than 256k? Just because Apple didn't certify it doesn't mean it won't work; witness the SE/30 and 16MB SIMMs. I am using MacOS 7.6.1 and NetBSD on my Quadra. I probably should have mentioned that. Supermac and rebadged some cards I believe) board in my 950 system that allows for high resolution video (has 3mb+ of memory?) a.. 640x480 up to 24-bit b.. 832x624 up to 24-bit c.. 1024x768 (at 75 Hz) up to 24-bit d.. 1152x870 up to 24-bit I suppose I could reverse all these numbers to figure out how much RAM it must have, but it's going to be awfully tedious to do this for all the cards I find online. (Seems to be 3MB if my math is right.) Interesting that video cards used to be sold by the res/color modes they supported, and now they're simply sold by how much VRAM is onboard. Maybe my best bet is to just make sure I have my VRAM maxxed out. I don't know if hunting/paying for a slow 3 or 4MB card is going to be better than the fast 2MB I could have otherwise. Tim The onboard ram became more important when people started going 3D since the more memory you have the more textures you can store in video memory. For just 2d anything over 4-8mb wouldn't be used anyway even on a 22 monitor. Even if you could use larger VRAM chips on the motherboard if the video chip isn't designed to use more memory and the drivers are not written for using more memory then you will still be out of luck. I upgraded my 840AV to have full vram (2mb) along with 128MB of system ram and that's good enough for what I use the system for. There has always been a see-saw battle between custom chips and CPU's for doing tasks. DSP's were popular for a while for doing Photoshop work until the PPC and Intel MMX chips became fast enough to do it just like hardware MPEG decoders were popular until the CPU was fast enough to do it on its own. From what I remember the 840AV used the DSP's for controlling its modem port instead of using a dedicated hardware modem (never tried it to see how well it works) just like there are allot of (shitty) winmodems used on the Intel PCs these days. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
E-Machines ColorLink Video/E-net Card
Anyone using a Colorlink card by Emachines? Is the ethernet portion compatible with Open Transport? I ask, because I have a Futura IISX with the ethernet daughterboard and the card freezes my IIci when the OT extensions load. It works fine with Classic Networking. So I'm wondering if the ColorLink has the same problem. Jeff Walther -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: MicroNet NuPort II SCSI card - anybody know how this works?
From: Greg Shafritz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 20:19:45 -0400 I've got an old (circa 1991) MicroNet NuPort II SCSI card that I'm trying to test the capabilities of. Trouble is, I can't find ANY documentation or useful info about it on the web. I have no documentation or software, just the card. As for documentation, has anyone got a manual they could scan or photocopy? If the documentation does turn up, and for folks in the Austin, TX area, there are two of these cards (as of a week ago) in the SCSI card bin (behind the counter) at the Goodwill Computer Works store. I think they're priced at $5 or $10 each. I keep being tempted, but knowing nothing about them, I've left them in the bin. I vaguely remember seeing them advertised or perhaps reviewed in old MacWorld or MacUser issues, but I disposed of my old issues many years ago. I guess I could go down to the UT library which has back issues... Jeff Walther -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Dos Card
Guess I better find that dongle then... Thanks, RL = Robert Little Astronomy Space Educator Talcott Mountain Science Center Avon, CT I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night... Sarah Williams The Old Astronomer to His Pupil __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
DOS Card In Quadra 650 - Where's The PC Window?
help! I've installed a DOS card from a gutted 6100 into a Quadra. I've never used one before. Since I do not have the dongle for the wee beastie, I figured I could just use the Mac monitor with PC running in a window. Well, it doesn't. It says that PC is running, but aside from a slight dimming, I get nothin'. If I haven't said it before... Help! Rob = Robert Little Astronomy Space Educator Talcott Mountain Science Center Avon, CT I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night... Sarah Williams The Old Astronomer to His Pupil __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650 - Where's The PC Window?
There is no option to run a DOS card (6100 and some 68K PDS machines), a DOS on a Mac [ DOAM ] card (Reply, for 7100/8100/9150 PDS machines) or a PC Compatibility card (PCI Macs) without the appropriate dongle. The DOAM card will not work with with a G3 PDS card which incorporates HPV pass through. The pass through function only includes enough functionality to support the HPV card or the A-V card ... not the DOAM card. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650
Peter, You lost me somewhere. This is not a G3 machine (far from it... remember, Quadlist?), just an ol' Quadra 650 with PDS. What does the dongle do, precisely? Are you saying that I need to wire a video out from the port on the back of the card? If so, any idea what the pinouts are? I am in posession of 6 '040 Macs right now. Would the card work better in a Quadra 800? Or, if someone out there has the appropriate adapter, a Centris 660AV? Any advice is appreciated... RL = Robert Little Astronomy Space Educator Talcott Mountain Science Center Avon, CT I have loved the stars too dearly to be fearful of the night... Sarah Williams The Old Astronomer to His Pupil __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card In Quadra 650
In a message dated 9/22/03 5:42:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You lost me somewhere. Not my intention. I simply identified every Apple DOS/PC card I am familar with. The Reply card is simply a Reply vended version of the Apple designed card This is not a G3 machine (far from it... remember, Quadlist?), just an ol' Quadra 650 with PDS. Yes, I understood that. What does the dongle do, precisely? Are you saying that I need to wire a video out from the port on the back of the card? If so, any idea what the pinouts are? I am in posession of 6 '040 Macs right now. In a DOS or PS card equipped machine, the DOS or PC card does all the audio and video switching between DOS and Mac modes. The dongle is a requirement for this, unless two monitors are used, and then the issues are somewhat different. I always use the dongle, and I always use a 20 multiscan monitor, and I always install the (optional) DOS/PC monitor and sound extensions. This way, I get completelty plug and play function between Mac and DOS/PC modes. Would the card work better in a Quadra 800? If it has an '040 PDS, then yes. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: help with my lc 580 nic card
ok thank you! ~ Ben ~ - Original Message - From: Paul Stamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: Re: help with my lc 580 nic card At 16:52 -0400, 8/20/2003, (Ben) observed: Hello, I have a macintosh lc 580 and need a nic card. Does anyone have any information where I can get one cheap? Thanx! Try the swaplist. It's a great venue. To subscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) QuadList PCI PowerMacs nanny (±) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
help with my lc 580 nic card
Hello, I have a macintosh lc 580 and need a nic card. Does anyone have any information where I can get one cheap? Thanx! Sincerely, Ben -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: help with my lc 580 nic card
Ebay -Original Message- From: Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:53 PM To: Quadlist Subject: help with my lc 580 nic card Hello, I have a macintosh lc 580 and need a nic card. Does anyone have any information where I can get one cheap? Thanx! Sincerely, Ben -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: help with my lc 580 nic card
At 16:52 -0400, 8/20/2003, (Ben) observed: Hello, I have a macintosh lc 580 and need a nic card. Does anyone have any information where I can get one cheap? Thanx! Try the swaplist. It's a great venue. To subscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- HTH, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) QuadList PCI PowerMacs nanny (±) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
Hello All, I'm looking for the above to help me get through the ever growing thesis I'm writing. Redraw rates and photos in the document are S . L . O . W . and I'm looking to speed things up. Running a 660av (so a 7' card guys) on OS 7.6.1. I suppose the most important thing is availability. The Radius thunder II gx may be the bees knees but if they're virtually impossible to get second hand, it's a bit of a loss! Regards, Adam Dunn -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
Adam, What is the file size of the photos you are using. My experience with Photoshop is that they are usually very large files. What is the lowest resolution you can go with and still get the detail you need. Smaller files will speed up the redraw time. John _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
Powermac wrote: - Original Message - From: Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about a photoshop plugin but the 660av takes 1mb of the 8mb onboard for vram. Probably better of with some kind of video card. It explains the lack of speed for mine. Isnt the video ram part of the motherboard? I didnt think it used system ram for video. I upgraded my 840av to 2 meg VRAM so I can get more color depth. Most software slowdowns are caused by not having enough system ram causing the system to swap to the HD alot. My system (840AV 128mb ram) is snappy considering its age and all. Check the 660av specs 1 MB of built-in 80 ns VRAM is dedicated to video function. While the 840av has 1 mb dedicated and 4 extra slots for 4x256k to give a max of 2mb. How well the 660 allocates this vram and the fact that its capped at 1mb causes me concern when using a program such as photoshop. You may well be correct stating photoshop has a pluggin for the 660 in which case the overall system ram may play a part. Both models you mention use 80ns vram, the difference in the way each is setup and the extra mb you have would explain the difference for me. Macs love ram, the more the better. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
Powermac wrote: - Original Message - Hello All, I'm looking for the above to help me get through the ever growing thesis I'm writing. Redraw rates and photos in the document are S . L . O . W . and I'm looking to speed things up. Running a 660av (so a 7' card guys) on OS 7.6.1. I suppose the most important thing is availability. The Radius thunder II gx may be the bees knees but if they're virtually impossible to get second hand, it's a bit of a loss! Isnt there a plugin for photoshop 2 or 3 that uses the built in DSP's of the 660AV? I dont think any nubus cards are faster then the built in video of the 660/840av quadra's because of the slow nubus bus compared to the faster built in video bus. The thunder GX is fast because of the DSP's onboard, if you cant get the 660av onboard dsp's running try finding a cheap radius photobooster card on ebay (its just a DSP addon card). I don't know about a photoshop plugin but the 660av takes 1mb of the 8mb onboard for vram. Probably better of with some kind of video card. It explains the lack of speed for mine. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
- Original Message - Hello All, I'm looking for the above to help me get through the ever growing thesis I'm writing. Redraw rates and photos in the document are S . L . O . W . and I'm looking to speed things up. Running a 660av (so a 7' card guys) on OS 7.6.1. I suppose the most important thing is availability. The Radius thunder II gx may be the bees knees but if they're virtually impossible to get second hand, it's a bit of a loss! Regards, Adam Dunn Isnt there a plugin for photoshop 2 or 3 that uses the built in DSP's of the 660AV? I dont think any nubus cards are faster then the built in video of the 660/840av quadra's because of the slow nubus bus compared to the faster built in video bus. The thunder GX is fast because of the DSP's onboard, if you cant get the 660av onboard dsp's running try finding a cheap radius photobooster card on ebay (its just a DSP addon card). -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
Powermac wrote: - Original Message - From: Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about a photoshop plugin but the 660av takes 1mb of the 8mb onboard for vram. Probably better of with some kind of video card. It explains the lack of speed for mine. Isnt the video ram part of the motherboard? I didnt think it used system ram for video. I upgraded my 840av to 2 meg VRAM so I can get more color depth. Most software slowdowns are caused by not having enough system ram causing the system to swap to the HD alot. My system (840AV 128mb ram) is snappy considering its age and all. Check the 660av specs 1 MB of built-in 80 ns VRAM is dedicated to video function. While the 840av has 1 mb dedicated and 4 extra slots for 4x256k to give a max of 2mb. How well the 660 allocates this vram and the fact that its capped at 1mb causes me concern when using a program such as photoshop. You may well be correct stating photoshop has a pluggin for the 660 in which case the overall system ram may play a part. Both models you mention use 80ns vram, the difference in the way each is setup and the extra mb you have would explain the difference for me. Macs love ram, the more the better. (sorry if this appears twice, resent due to server problems) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A graphic Nubus card for word processing and photoshop
- Original Message - From: Sque [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know about a photoshop plugin but the 660av takes 1mb of the 8mb onboard for vram. Probably better of with some kind of video card. It explains the lack of speed for mine. Isnt the video ram part of the motherboard? I didnt think it used system ram for video. I upgraded my 840av to 2 meg VRAM so I can get more color depth. Most software slowdowns are caused by not having enough system ram causing the system to swap to the HD alot. My system (840AV 128mb ram) is snappy considering its age and all. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!
In a message dated 5/31/03 7:40:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, thanks to those of you here who responded. I was worried that the DOS cards were getting scarce (based on how much that guy soaked me for!). Not scarce at all. Often as little as $10 on e-bone, and some New-in-Box units are still floating around at electronics swap meats (sic). It is the dongle which is scarce as hen's (wisdom) teeth. Win95 is a go, but nothing after that. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 13:30:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Needed: Houdini/DOS card! Howdy Y'all! Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Centris. Anyone know a source? Actually, the 6100 DOS card itself is almost identical to the Houdini and will work fine in a 610 or any other Quad with an '040 PDS slot. The problem is the PDS adapter. The 6100 card comes with an adapter which converts the 6100 PDS to an '040 one. To put the card in a 610, you need to take the DOS card off of the 6100 adapter and use the one intended for the PowerPC upgrade card. John -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Needed: Houdini/DOS card!
Howdy Y'all! Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Centris. Anyone know a source? Thanks, Robert __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Needed: Houdini/DOS card!
on 5/29/03 3:30 PM, Robert Little at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Y'all! Been bamboozled. Bought what was supposed to be a 610 DOS card... was a 6100 DOS card instead. Sold it to work, but still need a 610 DOS card for my Centris. Anyone know a source? I've got one. We'll need to check and make sure etc. But I'm confident that I have a Centris and a 6100, as I have two and they are different. -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
630 Dos Compatible Card - OS setup query
I have searched and read the FAQ's, and collected about 20-30 urls in my favourites about this Quadra DOS thang... but couldn't find a solution to my question How to get dos into the ($8.00 ebay) Performa 630 Logic Board with DOS Compatible card installed? RAM is installed on both the mother board and the DOS card. I'm sticking the 630 into a 6300 case as a sort of dual purpose box, swapping motherboards. The 6300 board has TV tuner, MPEG and Video in, while the 603 in the 6300 box does the old DOS games, etc... The current 6300 has OS 9.1 on a 6GB IDE, so I suppose I'll have to backtrack to OS7 or 8 for the 630 board to recognise the disk, then work on installing M$DOS? Gianni in London -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630 Dos Compatible Card - OS setup query
john raineri wrote: I have searched and read the FAQ's, and collected about 20-30 urls in my favourites about this Quadra DOS thang... but couldn't find a solution to my question How to get dos into the ($8.00 ebay) Performa 630 Logic Board with DOS Compatible card installed? RAM is installed on both the mother board and the DOS card. http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/DOS-Windows/DOS_and_PC_Compatibility_SW/ or http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html might be of use. Might be a good place to start and without more info it would be a good place for me to finish. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
How to Enable L2 cache on 575's PPC601 upgrade card
Hi all, First post to this list. I've got a Power Mystic -- a Color Classic with an LC575 motherboard, and a PPC601 upgrade card (66MHz model), and it''s working great, except for one thing: the 256k L2 cache doesn't work. TattleTech detects it as present, but reports it as not enabled. The Apple 601 Processor Upgrade control panel (which is the proper CP for the Apple and Daystar varieties of this card) only allows one to toggle between the 601 and the on-board 68040; no L2 cache on/off switch. According to Low End Mac, every card ever produced in this form factor (Apple, Daystar, Sonnet) has a 256k L2 cache. I have tried using various Daystar Control Panels, but they do not turn on the L2 cache either, Daystar's PowerControl has a button for L2 cache info, but it is greyed out. NewerTech's old Cache-22 util (part of their Guages package) crashes before it can finish starting up. I've googled the Web and Usenet, and I've checked the Pickle's LEM FAQ, all to no avail. Any ideas? TIA, Matt P.S. I hope this is on-topic here--I figured that since it's a 575 mobo involved at the core of things, this question is more at home here than on 1st PowerMacs or CompactMacs. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How to Enable L2 cache on 575's PPC601 upgrade card
The Pickle strikes again--mostly :-) Inspected the card, and the cache is present (it's a daughtercard with chips on it, adjacent to where the 68040 CPU plugs into the main board of the upgrade card -- just like it's drawn in the Daystar user guide). This one has 8 32k chips on it, rather than 2 128's or 4 64's. As for the OS, I obtained this machine with 7.6.1 already on it, but the proper Control Panel was installed, and AFAIK the previous owner did a fresh install of the OS when he first put in the upgrade card. Nevertheless, I did a clean install of OS 8.1 anyway, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it improved my MacBench CPU score by 1% and the FPU score by 13%. I'd assumed that 8.1 would be slower. Finally, in total frustration, I used TomeViewer to pull out the Apple System Profiler from the OS 9 install CD -- the 7.6.1 and 8.1 versions of the Profiler don't report anything about cache (grrr). So the OS 9 Profiler reports 256k L2 cache. Finally, I loaded an old copy of TechTool Pro and ran the cache test, which (in addition to testing the L1 cache) tests the L2 cache for (a) presence and (b) functionality. Sure enough, the machine passed the L2 cache test. So it's possible that the fresh install of OS 8.1 helped things -- perhaps the MacBench increases were due to the newly enabled cache rather than any speed benefits of 8.1 itself. But I doubt the new OS install was the reason, as TattleTech still reports the cache as not enabled. I think that the cache was enabled and functioning all along, and I just didn't know it. Oh well, stupid me. Thanks to the Pickle for taking the time to respond, and thanks to everyone else for the bandwith :-) Best, Matt On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 05:59 PM, the pickle wrote: Does it really have an L2 cache? :) Check for the presence of the chips themselves; I don't know for certain what part numbers you're looking for but they should be some sort of fast RAM, probably in a group of two (128K each) or four (64K each) identical chips. Cache-22 may not like upgrade cards in general; what happens when you run it with the card removed? I think the Daystar PowerControl is only for the PowerCard and PowerPro upgrades, which would explain its reticence here. Did you do a fresh install of the OS when you installed the card? Things it probably isn't: - the 040 cache mode, since the 040 is turned off completely when the PPC is active - anything else related to the 040, for the same reason -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How to Enable L2 cache on 575's PPC601 upgrade card
At 23:13 -0500 on 09/02/03, Matt Ruben wrote: rather than any speed benefits of 8.1 itself. But I doubt the new OS install was the reason, as TattleTech still reports the cache as not enabled. What version of TattleTech? Contact the author and let him know it didn't work as anticipated; he'd probably be interested to know that, and perhaps he can fix it. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DOS cards as found on 630 DOS Compatible Macs were limited to 32 MB RAM. Try running Win98 in 32 MB RAM :-( Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Kyle Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Win95 'USB patch' ] My point was you didn;t have to install it, it was already there! Once again, no. You'll have to add it separately. And you believe what microsoft says do you? In this particular case, yes. And in addition, I've tried to use various USB devices on Win95OSR2.x several times - it's really unable to handle them. But look at the Subject: line - we're just speaking about 'what software might work on particular Macintosh hardware'! :-) But even then we've streched a little! Ok, it's probably time to stop discussing it! :-) WBR, Artur -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's minimum requirement - a 486/66 with 16 megs of RAM. It ran, surprisingly okayishly. Upped the memory for 64 megs of RAM and used it for two years as a surfing station :) Just over this weekend I put it on my Toshiba Dynapad tablet PC (486/40) and once I get the memory up past 12 megs it'll be quite well. Despite it being Windows, even it can be trimmed and nipped and tucked to run decently on older machines. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re[2]: DOS Card
On Monday, January 27, 2003, 18:11, you wrote: SH At 01:17 PM 1/27/2003 +0200, you wrote: Actually, Win98 works quite normal on 32Mb Ram - as far as CPU is at least ~150-200 MHz. WBR, Artur SH Just for kicks once, I tried Win98 on it's minimum requirement - a 486/66 SH with 16 megs of RAM. It ran, surprisingly okayishly. Upped the memory for SH 64 megs of RAM and used it for two years as a surfing station :) SH Just over this weekend I put it on my Toshiba Dynapad tablet PC (486/40) SH and once I get the memory up past 12 megs it'll be quite well. Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm Win98 running on a 386? Perhaps someone here who can read German can take a look... It would be better than what I get from Web translators. I have an old Socket 7 system here with a K5 PR75 (around P90 equivalent), 16 MB EDO, 1 GB IDE HDD (could add or replace with larger, but its a cheap case which makes it more work so I haven't bothered. Maybe if I need more space later.) Matrox Millennium II PCI, SB16 Vibra PnP ISA, AON101T (RTL8019AS 10BaseT ISA, NE2000 compatible) which is currently running WinNT 3.51 (SP5). Its not screaming fast, but its good. Beats WFW 3.11 though (which it shares the Program Manager interface with) :-) I have MS Office 95 (NT 3.51 can run Office 97 also (which draws its own controls, so it has the Explorer style title bars and such) but I thought Office 95 might be a bit faster, plus I also wanted to try out this DOOM like egg in Excel 95), Illustrator 4, Photoshop 3.0 4.0, Winamp 2.80, IE 3.03 (yuck!) Opera 5.11, LeechFTP 1.3 all working nicely (although the last two don't work 100% due to some older common control libraries and such). Also a couple of games (SinkSub Pro v2.03 and Combat Tanks v1.0 (a Win16 classic!). The newer (both 16 and 32-bit) versions of mIRC sort of ran also, although I suspect an older 16-bit version might work better. SH Despite it being Windows, even it can be trimmed and nipped and tucked to SH run decently on older machines. SH Scott Holder Old versions of Windows can be run on new PCs, much more than compared to the oldest System / Mac OS versions that can run on newer Macs. :-) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re[2]: DOS Card
At 08:22 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm Win98 running on a 386? Perhaps someone here who can read German can take a look... It would be better than what I get from Web translators. The basic idea is to install it first on the 486 then move the drive over. Windows, in general, only checks the system specs on install and not on boot. I'd bet even XP would run on a 386 given enough patience. Anyway, this is getting a bit too off-topic, methinks, so I'll leave it at that. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re[3]: DOS Card
On Monday, January 27, 2003, 20:55, you wrote: SH At 08:22 PM 1/27/2003 -0800, you wrote: Speaking of minimum requirements for Win98, this seems appropriate: http://www.winhistory.de/more/386/386vers.htm Win98 running on a 386? Perhaps someone here who can read German can take a look... It would be better than what I get from Web translators. SH The basic idea is to install it first on the 486 then move the drive over. SH Windows, in general, only checks the system specs on install and not on boot. SH I'd bet even XP would run on a 386 given enough patience. SH Anyway, this is getting a bit too off-topic, methinks, so I'll leave it at SH that. SH Scott Holder Yes, I had got that (the basic idea). I was hoping someone who could understand more of the page in its original language could tell us more. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re[3]: DOS Card
At 21:29 -0800 on 27/01/03, Shroom wrote: SH Anyway, this is getting a bit too off-topic, methinks, so I'll leave it at SH that. SH Scott Holder Yes, I had got that (the basic idea). I was hoping someone who could understand more of the page in its original language could tell us more. There are plenty of native German speakers on this list. I hope they all have the good sense Scott does to stop now that this is *way* OT, though, and e-mail you off-list instead :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Kyle Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't just bug-fixed version - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, and Win98SE - support for FireWire peripheral, unlike Win95. Kind of depends how you look at it, the last version of windows 95 (released in 1997) included ie 4 intergration (wheather you liked it or not) and usb support! Excuse me, but it isn't really correct. The support essentially means, that after installing so-called 'USB patch' (it must be installed manually, BTW), in the Device Manager you'll see gray square labelled 'USB hub' instead of yellow question mark labelled 'Unknown PCI device'. But you'll be unable to use almost any real USB peripheral - scanners, storage devices, printers, and even joysticks. and usb support really isn't a kernel thing, just a driver thing, after all it's just another device. Not quite so. Microsoft itself has said: === Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and OSR 2.5 provide basic USB support that was developed as the technology was first emerging. Based on today's more mature USB technology, there are a number of limitations with USB support in Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and Windows 95 OSR 2.5. These limitations were addressed in Microsoft Windows 98 and carried forward to Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition. Addressing these limitations required several architectural changes that are not portable back to Windows 95 OSR 2.1 or Windows 95 OSR 2.5. === Probably best to look at it with the build numbers around rc2 (after which ms played arounf with them inflating them to something that looked good, 95 950, 95SE (both osr1 osr2 osr2.5 ) , 98 1998, 98se , can't remeber me's probably 3000 at a guess ;-) ) which was about 1350 if i remeber correctly, versus build for the last release. There were no Win95SE! :-) Retail 4.00.950, Retail SP1 4.00.950A, OSR1 4.00.950A, OSR2 4.00. (4.00.950B), OSR2.1 4.03.1212-1214 (4.00.950B), OSR2.5 4.03.1214 (4.00.950C). Mentioned USB support was included in OSR2.1 and OSR2.5, but as I've said, it doesn't work with almost anything, except for few mice, keyboards and two or three Kodak digital cameras, that have specifically written Win95 drivers included. Anyway must stop now, I'm bableing windows nonsense on a mac list, bad me ;-) But look at the Subject: line - we're just speaking about 'what software might work on particular Macintosh hardware'! :-) WBR, Artur -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Excuse me, but it isn't really correct. The support essentially means, that after installing so-called 'USB patch' (it must be installed manually, BTW), in the Device Manager you'll see gray square labelled 'USB hub' instead of yellow question mark labelled 'Unknown PCI device'. But you'll be unable to use almost any real USB peripheral - scanners, storage devices, printers, and even joysticks. My point was you didn;t have to install it, it was already there! Not quite so. Microsoft itself has said: === Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and OSR 2.5 provide basic USB support that was developed as the technology was first emerging. Based on today's more mature USB technology, there are a number of limitations with USB support in Windows 95 OSR 2.1 and Windows 95 OSR 2.5. These limitations were addressed in Microsoft Windows 98 and carried forward to Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition. Addressing these limitations required several architectural changes that are not portable back to Windows 95 OSR 2.1 or Windows 95 OSR 2.5. === And you believe what microsoft says do you? There were no Win95SE! :-) Retail 4.00.950, Retail SP1 4.00.950A, OSR1 4.00.950A, OSR2 4.00. (4.00.950B), OSR2.1 4.03.1212-1214 (4.00.950B), OSR2.5 4.03.1214 (4.00.950C). And you don;t include the osr's as win95se much liek everybosy else? Hey that's what it would have been called if they'd realised they could flog it at retail too! anyway... But look at the Subject: line - we're just speaking about 'what software might work on particular Macintosh hardware'! :-) But even then we've streched a little! Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Phone (Mobile): 07909 67 1986 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk |ICQ: 20955065 | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
DOS cards as found on 630 DOS Compatible Macs were limited to 32 MB RAM. Try running Win98 in 32 MB RAM :-( Actually I run Win98SE on an old machine around here which has only 16mb. But then I am sick! ;-) Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Phone (Mobile): 07909 67 1986 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk |ICQ: 20955065 | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 13:16 +, 1/25/03, (Kyle Kinsey) observed: But look at the Subject: line - we're just speaking about 'what software might work on particular Macintosh hardware'! :-) But even then we've stretched a little! A nanny, I have no particular problem with this thread, it *is* tangentially germane. However, if it seriously bugs anyone, let _me_ know, off-list. -- Thanks, Paul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) QuadList PCI PowerMacs nanny ^±^ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 05:16 AM 1/25/2003, Kyle Kinsey typed thusly: Excuse me, but it isn't really correct. The support essentially means, that after installing so-called 'USB patch' (it must be installed manually, BTW), in the Device Manager you'll see gray square labelled 'USB hub' instead of yellow question mark labelled 'Unknown PCI device'. But you'll be unable to use almost any real USB peripheral - scanners, storage devices, printers, and even joysticks. My point was you didn;t have to install it, it was already there! Actually, yes, you did have to install it. It wasn't part of the default install. OTOH, it's not part of the DOS card, either, so... 98's somewhat more stable, 95 (if you can find the earlier versions without anything integrated - think my old upgrade CD didn't even have IE, or it was IE 2.0 or some such) will probably run better in the limited amount of memory available on the DOS card. One of these days I've got to get my 640 up and running - since I'm probably just going to put plain ol' DOS on for a game or two. (Subwar 2040, for starters.) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
On 24 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could run Win95 (I used to) but I found there was also a (serious) limitation with this card. It's highest video display was 800 x 600 at 4bit resolution - 16 colors in total. Just pitiful. You could get 8bit color at 640 x 480 Did you install the video and sound driver disks? Everything was standard (and installed). It is a hardware limitation of the 630 DOS Compatible, not a software issue. Mike -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Kyle Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an improvement over 95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM (I'm guessing here), since ME is an improved 98. indeed 98 and 98se should both work being just 95+plus+ie4 and a few buf= fix's. Hi Kyle, Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't just bug-fixed version - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, and Win98SE - support for FireWire peripheral, unlike Win95. WBR, Artur -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Hi Kyle, Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't just bug-fixed version - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, and Win98SE - support for FireWire peripheral, unlike Win95. Kind of depends how you look at it, the last version of windows 95 (released in 1997) included ie 4 intergration (wheather you liked it or not) and usb support! and usb support really isn't a kernel thing, just a driver thing, after all it's just another device. Probably best to look at it with the build numbers around rc2 (after which ms played arounf with them inflating them to something that looked good, 95 = 950, 95SE (both osr1 osr2 osr2.5 ) = , 98 = 1998, 98se = , can't remeber me's probably 3000 at a guess ;-) ) which was about 1350 if i remeber correctly, versus build for the last release. Anyway must stop now, I'm bableing windows nonsense on a mac list, bad me ;-) Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Phone (Mobile): 07909 67 1986 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk |ICQ: 20955065 | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
On 23 Jan 2003, Artur Yelchishchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kyle Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an improvement over 95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM (I'm guessing here), since ME is an improved 98. indeed 98 and 98se should both work being just 95+plus+ie4 and a few buf= fix's. Win98 is very similar to the Win95, but it isn't just bug-fixed version - there are some serious differencies in the kernel. For example, Win98 does have native (built-in) support for USB peripheral, and Win98SE - support for FireWire peripheral, unlike Win95. DOS cards as found on 630 DOS Compatible Macs were limited to 32 MB RAM. Try running Win98 in 32 MB RAM :-( You could run Win95 (I used to) but I found there was also a (serious) limitation with this card. It's highest video display was 800 x 600 at 4bit resolution - 16 colors in total. Just pitiful. You could get 8bit color at 640 x 480 IIRC, like OS/2 and NT, you could not install and run Win98 on this card either. Later PCI, Pentium type DOS cards were probably the way to a better Windows experience on a Mac. - But that's getting OT. Mike -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
In a message dated 1/24/03 3:58:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You could run Win95 (I used to) but I found there was also a (serious) limitation with this card. It's highest video display was 800 x 600 at 4bit resolution - 16 colors in total. Just pitiful. You could get 8bit color at 640 x 480 Did you install the video and sound driver disks? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
I think it's due to it having to use BIOS calls to access the hard drive. NT uses BIOS calls or Win 95/98? John _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Actually, it is the way NT allows access to the system peripherals. NT is supposed to simulate what called protective mode operations. If Not exactly protected mode is just the name of when 386 chips up run properly, real mode being silly 16bit mode. Though as an os is provides a secure environment with memory protection, unlike macs before OSX. an app fails, theoretically, the OS won't crash (but it still does). But tecnically only is a driver is written incorrectly and not an app which makes it much better. In running this way, NT drivers were VERY specific and kludgy. That's Actually it made things a lot better, which is why nt survived and OSX does things much the same. (NT is very much sort of a unix os compared to 9x, thouygh still VERY VERY REMOVED ;-) ) why very few games came out for NT. Call by the game to the sound card, CD, hard drive, etc., were protected by the OS. NT 4 yes, though the real reason was more lack that nt only had DirectX 3 and then only software mode! (there is technically no reason nt4 could not have had greater dx's and hardware mode drivers except ms did not want it too) Remember than win 2000 and win XP are really NT 5 and NT 5.1. Actually when the first win 200 beta's came out there was a DX5 on it that could be hacked to work under nt4. My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an improvement over 95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM (I'm guessing here), since ME is an improved 98. indeed 98 and 98se should both work being just 95+plus+ie4 and a few buf fix's. ME again is much the same while trying to hide dos a bit, but should work fine, although i does check for at least a 150mhz cpu by default though this can be worked around by running setup /nm /nm being a hidden setting for no miminum. Although I'm pretty sure that both 98's and me do require a fpu though (but not mmx). BLAH!!! Kyle Kinsey +- | eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Phone (Mobile): 07909 67 1986 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk |ICQ: 20955065 | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Negatory! DOS and Windows run better, and more reliably, on a MAC, than on a gen-u-wine PC. Seriously! That changes my opinion of the DOS card from being a novelty. I assume it has something to do with how the instruction set is being used in the 680X0 style of CPU chip being more stable than the instruction code in 586 CPU. I have noticed that the 486 PC is more stable running 95 than 586 and up. Guess it goes to prove that faster and newer is not necessarily better. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Using PCSetup, Win98 is supposed to be supported. NT never will be. This is probably due to the fact that both Win 95/98 both use a different style of FAT (File Allocation Table) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is closer to a UNIX based OS than DOS based and is more stable. It is good to hear that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium style of CPU. John _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
on 1/22/03 6:37 AM, J Sand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Using PCSetup, Win98 is supposed to be supported. NT never will be. This is probably due to the fact that both Win 95/98 both use a different style of FAT (File Allocation Table) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is closer to a UNIX based OS than DOS based and is more stable. It is good to hear that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium style of CPU. John I think it's due to it having to use BIOS calls to access the hard drive. Brian Futrell -- Macs: PowerTower: 9500/200 128M/2x4.3GB/USB/9.2.2 PC Card 166/80 Goliath: Q900 64/1GB/7.6.1 TinyTim: P475 20/1GB/7.6.1 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
Actually, it is the way NT allows access to the system peripherals. NT is supposed to simulate what called protective mode operations. If an app fails, theoretically, the OS won't crash (but it still does). In running this way, NT drivers were VERY specific and kludgy. That's why very few games came out for NT. Call by the game to the sound card, CD, hard drive, etc., were protected by the OS. My bet is that 98 will work since it is just an improvement over 95and I bet that ME would run if you had a 586 with 64MB of RAM (I'm guessing here), since ME is an improved 98. Jack On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 08:55 PM, Brian Futrell wrote: Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Using PCSetup, Win98 is supposed to be supported. NT never will be. This is probably due to the fact that both Win 95/98 both use a different style of FAT (File Allocation Table) than NT which uses NTFS. NT is closer to a UNIX based OS than DOS based and is more stable. It is good to hear that the DOS card makes up for the inadequacies of the pentium style of CPU. John I think it's due to it having to use BIOS calls to access the hard drive. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
DOS Card
What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? John _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 4:03 -0700 21/01/03, J Sand wrote: What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? A PC on a Nubus or PCI card, put it in your Mac, and you have both a Mac and a PC in the same box. Rather genious. Tina *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk/ Links for messages of peace http://veteransforcommonsense.org/ http://www.moveon.org/winwithoutwar/ http://www.harunyahya.com/32how_avoid_war.php *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
The one that I am familiar with (probably the oldest) is essentially a 286 self-contained on two interconnected nubus cards, complete with one whole meg of memory. When I had this installed in my quadra 700, I found it to be essentially useless. I mean it worked, but it wasn't good for anything. There were a number of other variations on this idea, emulating 386, 486, etc, but nobody makes them anymore, because emulation with just software on a PPC is much more effective. You can read more about these cards at macwindows.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
In a message dated 1/21/03 3:03:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a DOS card? The best I can understand is it is a way for a Mac to use an 80x86 processor. Is this correct? There are actually quite a few such cards, from Apple, Orange Micro and Reply. The Apple card was ultimately transferred to Reply, IIRC. There are '040 PDS-based cards and PCI-based cards. Also 7100/8100/9150-based cards. Some have built-in Soundblaster support, others don't. Some are called DOS Compatibility cards, some are called DOS on a Mac cards, while others are called PC Compatibility cards. Some will run Win98, but most won't. None, IIRC, will run NT. Those which are stated to run Win311 will usually run Win95 but not Win98. The DOS Compatibility cards were supplied with both DOS 6.2.2 and Win 3.1.1. Later cards were supplied with DOS only, even though these were specifically stated to be PC compatible. Every one requires a dongle, and each dongle is different. These cards, with the possible exception of the Reply DOS on a Mac card, are pretty trouble free. There are many restrictions on the Reply DOS on a Mac card, including the dependence upon a specific version of CD-ROM on the Mac side. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 12:52 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: A few versions I know of: 1. 486 on a PDS card (or adaptor, or built in with some sort of extension, like the Performa 640CD.) These can, from what I read, *only* run DOS. Something about how they access the disk and/or hardware - though IIRC the Perf. 640CD has a sound blaster chip in it. Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Scott Holder -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS Card
At 06:45 PM 1/21/2003, Scott Holder typed thusly: At 12:52 PM 1/21/2003 -0800, you wrote: Well, my 640CD DOS runs Win95 fine, and would likely run 98. Haven't tried NT. Wasn't thinking of 95 (and haven't in years. g) I've seen statements saying flat out they do *not* run Linux, NT, or OS/2. (Which is too bad, I wanted to get OS/2 going on the 640.) It's something about how they access the disk and/or memory, I don't recall the details. (Given how the 9x family is so scabbed on top of the win3.1/dos setup...) Anyway, for whoever said it sounded like more of a novelty - it depends. If you have a PC, yeah, it is (unless the PC is so new it won't run DOS stuff well, part of why I'm eventually going to back up the HD, reformat, and give it a DOS drive again.) If you have(had) a Mac and just needed to run, say, WordPerfect for DOS, early WinWord, etc, it made more sense to get a cheap card to add to the Mac than get another machine altogether. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
Hi I once ran a PDS dos card in my Q650, and it worked just fine. The one problem was the cables. I have to use string to support the cable from inside the machine, and feed it through an empty nubus slot. Can't find copy of site where I got info how to do it again though. I did remember though that best perfomerance was to add a simm on the card and not to use the motherboards memory. I ran Ami Pro on Win 3.1 quite happily. I also upgraded the heatsink (on the 486) to something better. ED -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
On 20 Jan 2003, edjones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once ran a PDS dos card in my Q650, and it worked just fine. The one problem was the cables. I have to use string to support the cable from inside the machine, and feed it through an empty nubus slot. Can't find copy of site where I got info how to do it again though. This page may be of interest for those wanting to try the 610 DOS card in Quadras other than the original 610: http://www.bme.unc.edu/~hope/linx/mac/dosmac.html Has some juicy stuff. Including; How to upgrade the 486 to a 586 by Cyrix or IBM.. Have fun. Mike -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 9:10 +1100 21/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page may be of interest for those wanting to try the 610 DOS card in Quadras other than the original 610: http://www.bme.unc.edu/~hope/linx/mac/dosmac.html Ahh, there it was. The info about Q800 and the DOS card hasn't been updated though. The 6100 card _will_ work in a Q800, I tried it. Tina ---------News@Nehaia--------- http://cy-info.dk updated with a new gallery new music Just 220 links left to sort before launching the new version of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nehaia.dk/all_bkmrks.shtml -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra 950 (I've wanted one since they came out!!!). Does anyone have any experience using one of these cards in something other than a Q610? I once saw a WWW page that had info about using one in a 650; try googling for it. Sorry I can't be of more help than that, but I know it definitely works. The biggest problem is cabling, because the 610s are the only ones where the card actually sits against the back panel. Running cables into the case for the others (as the 040 PDS isn't always accessible from the outside) can be problematic. Also, other than the DOS Compat. card or an accelerator is there anything else I can put in an '040 PDS slot? I know of one video card, and the WGS95 had a SCSI card in the PDS, but other than that I haven't heard of anything. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 21:22 -0500 on 18/01/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not certain, but if it's a PDS slot, I think you can put an Apple IIe compatibility card in it. Only if it's LC PDS, which the 040 PDS most certainly isn't. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
Does anyone have any experience using one of these cards in something other than a Q610? The other versions of that card incorporate the very same card, but add an extender for the (single) connector, which extender also provides some mechanical support for the card. As the connectors are readily available, you could make your own functional extender, using a blank NuBus slot cover. The card wouldn't be as well supported, but it would function as well. The connections are one-to-one. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra 950 (I've wanted one since they came out!!!). I don't recall right offhand if it's the same one that fits in the 660A/Vs, but I pulled one (spare) out of its angle bracket, and removed the endplate - it fit a Q700's PDS slot, though it (just barely) doesn't fit the Q700's case. I recall a site saying someone had put them in, but he had to butcher the inside framing of the case top (er, side) to get it to fit. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 11:17 -0800 on 19/01/03, E McCann wrote: At 19:26 -0800 on 17/01/03, Kris Jones wrote: Unfortunately the card is '040 PDS. I've heard that the card can be used in other '040s, which would fix everything since I also just purchased a Quadra 950 (I've wanted one since they came out!!!). I don't recall right offhand if it's the same one that fits in the 660A/Vs, The 660AV PDS is different from the 610 PDS. However, there are probably angle adapters for the 660AV PDS that turn it into a normal 040 PDS slot. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
At 12:39 -0500 19/01/03, the pickle replied: I once saw a WWW page that had info about using one in a 650 Dug around my 1000 bookmarks, but can't find it either. Maybe you can find something in the DOS card faq here: http://homepage.mac.com/olivers/DOScard/DOScard.html Tina *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk/ Links for messages of peace http://www.moveon.org/winwithoutwar/ http://www.harunyahya.com/32how_avoid_war.php *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 610 PDS DOS Card in other '040s?
I'm not certain, but if it's a PDS slot, I think you can put an Apple IIe compatibility card in it. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped. I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res. between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency. Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it display at a standard Res? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on the breakout box I have SuperMac SuperView box(Model No PB0161) made by 1992 SuperMac Technology, are both the same? since I've never used it before. Anthony -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Performa630DOS card
I have a Performa630 Dos Compatible with 52 Mb on MacOS8.1 and 32 Mb on DOS Card (win98). I use PCSetup 2.1.7 All has worked fine for a week or so, but today I tried to enter PC Setup (I have 2 drive files and I switch one or other). Suddenly Finder has closed down (or I think so, all icons on screen were gone) and reopened, but PC panel won't came out When I pressed the Apple key + Enter it switched to PC but with blank screen (and no video sync as monitor gone into sleep mode) What happened? Anyone can help? Thanks, Luca P.© There's an unceasing wind that blows through this night And there's dust in my eyes, that blinds my sight And silence that speaks so much louder that words, Of promises broken. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
2124NB II Nubus Graphics Card (Micro Conversions)
(this is going to both 1st-PowerMacs and Quadlist since it applies to both) I picked up a still shrink-wrapped 2124NB II Nubus Graphics Card (made by the now-defunct Micro Conversions) on eBay for a reasonable price. It has some interesting features such as Zoom (zooms in/out on a portion of the screen near the mouse cursor by hitting a hot key) and Pan (runs a bigger virtual desktop and allows panning around it by moving the mouse to the edge of the currently visible area). It also goes up to 1152x870 resolution at millions of colors and does some hardware-based QuickDraw acceleration. A LowEndMac page says it is compatible through Mac OS 9.0.4 (not with 9.1), but that's not entirely true. The HARDWARE works in my Mac OS 9.1 PowerMac 8100 (with a NewerTech G3). However, the SOFTWARE (a control panel) causes screen artifacts in some situations. Without the control panel installed, the card seems to behave properly, but QuickDraw acceleration and the Pan/Zoom features are not enabled (you still get millions of colors at up to 1152x870). The card's performance is noticeably slower than the PDS AV Card that is standard on AV Nubus PowerMacs, even with QuickDraw acceleration enabled on the 2124NB card. The performance difference is likely to be more noticeable in my case because my 8100 has a G3; on a non-accelerated nubus PowerMac running Mac OS 8.6 or 8.1 (or lower), the 2124NB would probably work quite well. I say that because I put the card in a Mac OS 8.1 Quadra 700 (with a Daystar PPC 601). In that system (using either the 68040 or PPC CPU), everything seems to work perfectly and the performance of the card nicely matches the performance of the Mac. Now, my Quadra 700 (with max vram) already has pretty decent built-in graphics, but I think I'll leave the 2124NB in it for now. If I ever attach a larger monitor to it, I'll be able to get 24-bit color at a higher resolution and could even make it a two-headed system. Happy Holidays! - Ken W -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Ethernet card * LC 475
Hello listers, I recently purchased a used Apple LC PDS ethernet card for my LC 475( it has a full 68040 cpu; 20 mb ram; 250 mb hd and OS 7.5.3) . The indicator light comes on when the computer is turned on but when I switch to ethernet from the network control panel, I get an error message- no code or explanation and the system switches back to local talk. Is there something else I am supposed to do or add to the system? I assumed that as it is an Apple network card,that the system will recognize it and has the driver(s) to run it? Am I mistaken? If there is nothing further to do on the software side; is there any way to test the card without trying a different card? Len Kuzminski -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Ethernet card * LC 475
At 8:42 PM -0800 10/31/2002, leonard kuzminski wrote: Hello listers, I recently purchased a used Apple LC PDS ethernet card for my LC 475( it has a full 68040 cpu; 20 mb ram; 250 mb hd and OS 7.5.3) . The indicator light comes on when the computer is turned on but when I switch to ethernet from the network control panel, I get an error message- no code or explanation and the system switches back to local talk. Is there something else I am supposed to do or add to the system? I assumed that as it is an Apple network card,that the system will recognize it and has the driver(s) to run it? Am I mistaken? If there is nothing further to do on the software side; is there any way to test the card without trying a different card? The fact that Ethernet shows up in the Network control panel means that the driver is finding a card it recognizes. The Apple LC Ethernet driver seems to work with all LC Ethernet cards. The light on the card being on is a good sign. What about the connection at the other end? If it's a hug is the link light on at that end? If it is not on at that end then that's the problem. The only other issue is that SOME early LC Ethernet cards don't work with later models (later than the LC LC II). The one I encountered would seem okay until you tried to actually transfer something. Then the system would hang. I've only encountered this with an Asante card (IIRC) but it's possible it applies to other brands. Check the manf web site (Apple) to see what models the card is recommended for. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
thanks for help with PPC upgrade card
Thanks to all who took a look at the picture of my PPC upgrade mystery card, which does not appear to be for my Q950 after all. I'm still not sure what it is-- some have suggested it's for the LC575, others for the Q630 series. In any case, I'll be selling it on eBay if anyone's interested. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: thanks for help with PPC upgrade card
Thanks to all who took a look at the picture of my PPC upgrade mystery card, which does not appear to be for my Q950 after all. I'm still not sure what it is-- some have suggested it's for the LC575, others for the Q630 series. In any case, I'll be selling it on eBay if anyone's interested. What's your user id on eBay? _ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Radius Video Card
I have a Radius video card...there is a key that can be pressed at startup to change the settings. Can anyone give me the key to press? According to the control panel, a t or u depending on the card. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Radius Video Card
Forgive the cross post. I have a Radius video card and need to make modifications. I know there is a key that can be pressed at startup to change the settings but have since forgotten the key. Can anyone give me the key to press? Thanks, Byron Lake St. Louis, MO 63367 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Radius Video Card
on 10/27/02 6:29 PM, Byron Gardner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be the space bar. Forgive the cross post. I have a Radius video card and need to make modifications. I know there is a key that can be pressed at startup to change the settings but have since forgotten the key. Can anyone give me the key to press? Thanks, Byron Lake St. Louis, MO 63367 -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Radius Video Card
At 18:29 -0600 27/10/02, Byron Gardner wrote: Can anyone give me the key to press? Had a Radius once that required t or maybe command-t. Tina *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://www.nehaia.dk/ I'll figure something out eventually, I guess... *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Radius Video Card
Nope. But thanks for the reply. I remember it was a letter key but can't remember which one. Senior moment. I will keep trying... Thanks, Byron On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 05:32 PM, R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 10/27/02 6:29 PM, Byron Gardner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might be the space bar. Forgive the cross post. I have a Radius video card and need to make modifications. I know there is a key that can be pressed at startup to change the settings but have since forgotten the key. Can anyone give me the key to press? Thanks, Byron Lake St. Louis, MO 63367 -- All the best, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
