Re: CS>Need help

[James McDonald]

My wife does the 5ml of 20ppm CS to start with then goes up to the 10ml 20ppm 
in the meds cup of the nebulizer. She has not had an upper resp infection in 
over two years since doing this!!





 From: MaryAnn Helland 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:21 AM
Subject: CS>Need help
 

My husband's lung infection is back.  He's been doctoring for this for a month 
and a half, has gone through two rounds of antibiotics.  This morning it's 
back, all the doctor's offices are closed because of a snow storm, a phone 
request for a prescription was denied without his being seen by the doctor.  
He's miserable -- coughing, can't breathe, etc.
 
So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS.  Having never done this before, I need 
to know -- do we use EIS full-strength?  Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- 
general guidelines.  TIA.
MA

Re: CS>Need help

[James McDonald]

My ultrasonic nebulizer plugs in also, if you look at the transformer mine says 
12VDC so you could plug it into a cig lighter in a car! or have a 12VDC battery 
pack.





 From: Renee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Need help
 

 
That’s
where I got mine.  Do get an ultrasonic nebulizer though—it makes a super fine
mist.  I got the portable, which is small, hand-held.  It still needs to be
plugged into an electric outlet.  One day I want to get one that runs on
batteries so that it is TRULY portable, but they are much more expensive than
the electric ones.  So for right now, my electric one is fine.
 
Samala, 
Renee
 
EBay
Where could one purchase a
nebulizer?
> 
>A

RE: CS>the wog ? I think I know

[Neville Munn]

From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:17:37 -0500
Subject: Re: CS>the wog ? I think I know
To: silver-list@eskimo.com







In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:33:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
d...@deetroy.org writes:
Its 
  obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some 
  horrible
malady.  I don't think anyone should start getting 
  offended.  I call such
things the dreaded lurgy or some such.  
  Horses for courses.  dee



Hang on --- I think it may be when Neville has reached his 
boiling point--- chuckle, grin :-) I luv Neville- WOGWater-Oil-Gas 
(valves, pressure) WOG is a do-not-exceed pressure, 
Lois
## "Water/Oil and Gas pressure - LOL - Very good Lois, I like that .
Of course there is no offence meant, it's just an old word, besides, I hate to 
see any old mannerisms unique to a people or culture slowly disappear just 
because some idiot came up with the idea of this 'political correctness' 
rubbish, that causes more trouble than it's worth by putting a wedge between 
people.  Good grief, Santa can't even say HO HO HO anymore, what *IS* this 
world coming to?
People can call me white trash, hunky or honky or however it's pronounced, or 
dumb Aussie any time they want, I've been called much worse than that , my 
life will still go on.
"Dreaded lurgy" is a new one on me though, never heard of that one, see, 
learning all the time, isn't multiculturalism wonderful .
N.

Re: CS>the wog ? I think I know

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:33:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
d...@deetroy.org writes:

Its  obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some  
horrible
malady.  I don't think anyone should start getting  offended.  I call such
things the dreaded lurgy or some such.   Horses for courses.  dee




Hang on --- I think it may be when Neville has reached his  boiling 
point--- chuckle, grin :-) I luv Neville- WOGWater-Oil-Gas  (valves, 
pressure) 
WOG is a do-not-exceed pressure,  Lois

CS> How To Use Kerosene and Turpentine

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 12/26/2012 6:59:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bobli...@att.net writes:

Three  rounds of lufenuron and a tablespoon of kerosene daily cleared up my 
entire  health. Now a days no more sinus, bronchial, or respiratory 
problems  atall.



I remember as a kid my Grandmother told Mom Each of us  kids should have a 
tsp. of Kerosene every Spring. I didn't know what for but we  got it with 
some honey & water.. Lois  
_http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htmKerosene  and Turpentine_ 
(http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm)  

Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

[Marshall]

It looks like KY Jelly might make a good electrode gel.  See 
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC490140/pdf/brheartj00336-0111.pdf


Resistance measurements compared to commercial electrode gels show it to 
be acceptable for electrocardiograms.


KY - 2150 ohms
Lubafax - 9750 ohms
Cambridge - 1550 ohms

Cambridge contains salt, which forms chlorine and lye when used with a 
zapper.  KY and Lubafax don't.  Now low resistivity is more important 
with a zapper than for use with an EKG or EEG, since they have high 
megohm input impedances, but a zapper has a low out impedance.


Marshall



On 12/27/2012 11:40 AM, Marshall wrote:
I believe this is a correct analysis.  It might be worth while 
figuring out something that can be added to the water that will 
increase conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals.  Any 
salt, acid or alkaline will work.  I was thinking of either vinegar 
(acetic acid) or citric acid.  I believe that hydrogen will be 
released at one electrode and CO2 at the other.  The CO2 is probably 
not a problem, it will make carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will 
quickly react with most metals making a metal hydride.  So the choice 
of electrode material will be important.


I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit.  They appear to have a carbon 
conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it.  Carbon would 
be a good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit.


Marshall

On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in 
the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute 
them as fast as they are being made.

Those are "chemical" burns.
5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.

Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does 
the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot]
Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro 
chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow.

Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off.
Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with 
it's opposite.


Ode




If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split 
into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka 
LYE ]
That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold 
cleaner...with a very short shelf life.


The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]

Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like 
everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals 
] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and 
germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you 
feel really ill. [Careful there]


THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device 
that can be made using junk around the house...used for "blood 
electrification".


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

BUT

Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a 
metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions 
."Electro-chemistry"


SO

The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is 
much that indicates that it does work.

How could that be?!!!

OK

So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a 
bucket of salt water]


If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you 
get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could 
that potential be used for?


1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in 
vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and 
a couple of sponges soaked with salt water]

too much? [burning and itching??]
Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]

2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made 
in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend..


Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.

That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location 
control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination.



At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,
Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper 
towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim 
most.  I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude 
adjustment and this zapper does not.  I was running 15 Hz.


Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  
It happened once before so I know from experience that they take 
awhile to heal.


Thanks.
PT



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Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

[Tony Moody]

Hi Ode and Marshall,

The medics use a conductive electrode gel with silver/silverchloride . This is 
used for 
longterm connection called resting electrodes.  I used them a lot for the Bob 
Beck type units 
because they helped to prevent the skin burning which I thought due to a better 
skin 
connection. The burns always seemed to be at point contacts. 

Grist ?

Tony
 

On 27 Dec 2012 at 11:40, Marshall wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

> I believe this is a correct analysis.  It might be worth while figuring
> out something that can be added to the water that will increase
> conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals.  Any salt, acid or
> alkaline will work.  I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) or
> citric acid.  I believe that hydrogen will be released at one electrode
> and CO2 at the other.  The CO2 is probably not a problem, it will make
> carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most metals making
> a metal hydride.  So the choice of electrode material will be important.
> 
> I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit.  They appear to have a carbon
> conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it.  Carbon would be a
> good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> > The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the
> > skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them
> > as fast as they are being made. Those are "chemical" burns. 5 ways to
> > prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.
> >
> > Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
> > Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the
> > same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad
> > area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume
> > of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch
> > polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's
> > opposite.
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split
> > into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE
> > ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold
> > cleaner...with a very short shelf life.
> >
> > The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
> > The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]
> >
> > Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like
> > everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals 
> > ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and 
> > germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel
> > really ill. [Careful there]
> >
> > THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that
> > can be made using junk around the house...used for "blood
> > electrification".
> >
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
> >
> > BUT
> >
> > Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a
> > metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions
> > ."Electro-chemistry"
> >
> > SO
> >
> > The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much
> > that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!!
> >
> > OK
> >
> > So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a
> > bucket of salt water]
> >
> > If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get
> > salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that
> > potential be used for?
> >
> > 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo
> > using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a
> > couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and
> > itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]
> >
> > 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in
> > vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend..
> >
> > Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.
> >
> > That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location 
> > control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination.
> >
> >
> > At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I
> >> ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.  I'm
> >> used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this
> >> zapper does not.  I was running 15 Hz.
> >>
> >> Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  It
> >> happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to
> >> heal.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >> PT
> > 
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> > Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2637

Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

[Marshall]

I believe this is a correct analysis.  It might be worth while figuring 
out something that can be added to the water that will increase 
conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals.  Any salt, acid 
or alkaline will work.  I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) 
or citric acid.  I believe that hydrogen will be released at one 
electrode and CO2 at the other.  The CO2 is probably not a problem, it 
will make carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most 
metals making a metal hydride.  So the choice of electrode material will 
be important.


I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit.  They appear to have a carbon 
conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it.  Carbon would be 
a good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit.


Marshall

On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in 
the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute 
them as fast as they are being made.

Those are "chemical" burns.
5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.

Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does 
the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot]
Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro 
chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow.

Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off.
Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with 
it's opposite.


Ode




If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split 
into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ]
That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold 
cleaner...with a very short shelf life.


The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]

Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like 
everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals 
] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and 
germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you 
feel really ill. [Careful there]


THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device 
that can be made using junk around the house...used for "blood 
electrification".


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

BUT

Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a 
metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions 
."Electro-chemistry"


SO

The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much 
that indicates that it does work.

How could that be?!!!

OK

So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a 
bucket of salt water]


If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get 
salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that 
potential be used for?


1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo 
using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a 
couple of sponges soaked with salt water]

too much? [burning and itching??]
Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]

2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in 
vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend..


Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.

That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location 
control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination.



At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,
Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel 
I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.  
I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and 
this zapper does not.  I was running 15 Hz.


Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  
It happened once before so I know from experience that they take 
awhile to heal.


Thanks.
PT



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RE: CS>American Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)

[Bob Banever]

I have used American Biotech Labs Ag404 and it always has a bitter taste to
it.  Not offensively bitter but it is always there.  Seemed to work well for
me.  Cured me of a good poisoning in a few hours.  Good luck.

 

  _  

From: Simonsen, John [mailto:john.simon...@oregonstate.edu] 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>American Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)

 

TDS only measures ionic silver. The ASAP product is mostly metallic silver
in colloidal form. So very low conductivity. You would need a different (and
more expensive) analytical method to determine the total Ag in the ASAP. 

 

John

  _  

From: Scotty [scottie592...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>American Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)


It was probably 10ppm coming out of the brewing process and after
stabilization settled in at the common 3ppm. Still works at 3ppm! Seems kind
of like deceptive labeling though, eh?


Scotty

Have a great day!

 



--- On Sun, 12/23/12, Alex Flex  wrote:


From: Alex Flex 
Subject: CS>American Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 9:37 AM

Hello List,

I recently bought two bottles of Ag4O4 colloidal silver from American
Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10PPM Silver Solution) and I wanted to share my
experience and get an opinion.

I noticed that there was no taste of this, it was like tasting regular
water... SO i went and took my TDS meter and it measured 3ppm  only!!

Could anybody tell me if this is some kind of mistake... ? Or has anybody
before seen such measure?

Alex



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RE: CS>Cure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

[Bob Banever]

My beloved dog Max,  a bichon frise, got AIHA (hemolytic anemia) right after
a rabies vaccine.  Although he lived for many years after that, I had to
spend over 12 thousand dollars on vet bills for transfusions and medical
care to keep him alive over the years.  He died at 16 years of age from
congestive heart failure but the point being vaccines are DEADLY for any
living thing.

 

Bob

 

  _  

From: Patricia Cloonan [mailto:pacloo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:45 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Cure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

 

EXACTLY Vicki...I couldn't agree more...vaccines are NEVER the answer.

 

Patty



 

On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM, vicki hood  wrote:

Considering my stepgrandson died a few days after a vaccine(3 monthsof age)
and I have MS immediately after a vaccine, my dear friend gets lupus a few
days after a vacine, several friends get leukemia immedistely after a
vaccine, my girlfriends daughter gets juvenile arthritus right after
vaccine, my dogs get parvo from the parvo vaccine, numerous people get fever
and epilesy right after a vaccine, people get the flu from the flu vaccine,
gardisil causes untold death and sickness, babies are required to have some
67 vaccines before school,  mercury ruins the brain as does formaldehyde,
aluminum, msg, cross species pus and other disgusting ingredients in
vaccines, i would be very careful about this recommendation.  You could be
sending untold damage and death by a false claim.  The pharma industry
thrives on illness NOT on wellness.  I cannot recieve a 2 hour advertisement
for sickness and death as my computer service does not have that kind of
capability.  I do hope others respond.  My studies span years and years
because of the study of damage from vaccines.  I would suggest a site
written by lots of doctors who have health as an interest and have delved
into the vaccine question.  try checking the ingredients in vaccines by
--vaclib.org---there are even forms to opt out of school vaccines.
Our constitution does not allow a foreign substance pumped into our bodies
as schools and others would have us believe.  Forced vaccines on the agenda?
I will do whatever it takes for protection against this sellout by our own
governent.  "They" can take that hypo and put it where the sun don't shine.
Sincerely,  Vicki Hood

- Original Message - 

From: james   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:29 PM

Subject: CS>Cure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine

 

 Hi everybody,

 

I would like everybody to know about this research doctor who invented a
vaccine(s) that can cure diseases like HIV, cancer and others.

 

 

His name is SAM Chachoua

 

One of the youtube video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs
(2hours)

 

He really explains the cause of cancer.

 

james

 

Re: CS>Need help

[MaryAnn Helland]

Thanks Ode.  We found an inhaler around her from former usage -- and it had a 
removable plasic mouthpiece that fit perfectly over the output port on the 
Medisana.  Worked great, and problem solved.

And you were right in recommending that unit -- I'm glad I took your advice.
MA





From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 7:54:16 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Need help



  The internal description in the Medisana box says the output is a nebulizer. 
[no mention of that on the outside]
You can put your mouth right on it or inhale near it or form a flexible hose to 
attach to it.

They make for an inexpensive very good high volume unit.

Ode


At 09:10 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Thank you, Renee.   A couple more questions.  Do you use a Hanna Tester to 
determine your ppm level?
> 
>Also -- we have a Medisana personal humidifier (brand-new in the box, never 
>used).  It does not have a hose-type attachment for inhaling -- is there any 
>reason why a person can't just place their mouth against the output port and 
>inhale from there?  Or is it not necessary to physically place the mouth on it 
>-- but place mouth/nose near the output port and inhale?
>MA
>
>
>From: Renee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 26, 2012 9:33:04 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Need help

My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a day, for 
a couple days and their chest infection (and sinus as they breathed in through 
their noses) went away totally.  They felt fine after the first day, but did it 
the second day to make sure it was all gone.  Of course, they started 
immediately as soon as they started feeling bad.  it may take longer if your 
husband has waited longer.

 

Samala, 

Renee

 

 

So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS.  Having never done this before, I need 
to know -- do we use EIS full-strength?  Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- 
general guidelines.  TIA.

MA

Re: CS>the wog ?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Its obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some horrible
malady.  I don't think anyone should start getting offended.  I call such
things the dreaded lurgy or some such.  Horses for courses.  dee


> From: Tony Moody 
> Organization: home and pvt
> Reply-To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:46:46 +0200
> To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Subject: CS>the wog ?
> Resent-From: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
> Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:46:58 -0800
> 
> Hi Neville,
> 
> Could you please define 'the wog'
> 
> I've just done a search for wog and can't find anything that fits your
> discussion. It was used
> around here, ( but is now very politically incorrect,) to mean worthy oriental
> gentleman, and
> was applied to anyone with a darker skin. I think that if I used that in that
> context now I would
> be in jail pdq.
> 
> OK,
> Tony
> 
> On 27 Dec 2012 at 13:57, Neville Munn wrote about :
> Subject : RE: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds
> 
>> 
>> @ Dee,  as I believe you, and most others on here I guess already know, I
>> take a small quantity of EIS every morning and when I feel the wog coming
>> on I up that dose to 250 odd ml for a couple of days, symptoms of
>> impending wog is gone within 24-48 hours, has never failed me.  I have
>> only had symptoms of impending wog twice in around 8 years now and have
>> knocked it on the head both times within that time frame, and as I have
>> written here before, I purposely expose myself to anyone and everyone who
>> is loaded with the wog in an attempt to prove to myself that what I'm
>> doing actually works, seemingly it does as I'm no super or extraordinary
>> healthy individual. Just as a personal observationThere are times when
>> I get the sneezes for no apparent reason, this I am beginning to suspect
>> is a wog of some sort which maybe has tried to 'invade?' my person and
>> hence has been dealt with by my regular daily intake.  I can't prove that
>> of course, but then nobody can disprove that suspicion either so I'm
>> running with it .  By the same token some could say it's hay fever or
>> asthma or some pollutant in the atmosphere or whatever else which may
>> promote those sneezing episodes but I'm running with a wog trying to take
>> hold and the EIS has dealt with it.  As I just said though, I can't prove
>> that is the case, but nobody else can prove it's NOT the case either.
>> 
>> N.
>> 
>> From: babychicks...@gmail.com
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds
>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:55:51 -0600
>> 
>> 
>> Oil of Oregano and colds
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic
>> poweder for the first time, I found that I have to take  it like you would
>> an anti-botic, 4-5 times a day for the first day and can cut down slowly I
>> am on my third day, it got rid of most of the lung infection (the green).
>> I'm going to stay on it for another couple days to be sure.  I really want
>> to get off anti-botics Kathy
>> 
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From:
>>   Dorothy Fitzpatrick
>> 
>>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>   Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21
>>   PM
>>   Subject: CS>Oil of Oregano and
>>   colds
>> 
>> Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would
>>   Œstop a cold in its tracks¹ but this is not true.  I have just started a
>>   cold and used this almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily
>>   worse.
>>I am also using CS with DMSO but still have the cold.  Just a
>>   snippet to say that natural remedies are not always successful either.
>>Dee
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Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks Ode.  Since it was a handheld and a potentiometer is not an option I'm 
trying to think of ways to increase the pad area.  I will also move them around 
and swap the cords.  They are only on for 7 minutes and I add water each time I 
go into the 7 minute part of the cycle.
PT





From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 8:54:23 AM
Subject: Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin 
because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as 
they are being made.
Those are "chemical" burns.
5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.

Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same 
thing as the pot, but in a different spot]
Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a 
larger volume of blood flow.
Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off.
Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's 
opposite.

Ode




If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into 
Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ]
That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a 
very short shelf life.

The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]

Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like everything 
BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium 
Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy 
enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there]

THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be 
made using junk around the house...used for "blood electrification".

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

BUT

Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal 
wire, 
it transports electrons via chemical reactions ."Electro-chemistry"

SO

The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that 
indicates that it does work.
How could that be?!!!

OK

So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of 
salt water]

If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt 
when 
the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for?

1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a 
simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges 
soaked with salt water]
too much? [burning and itching??]
Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]

2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo 
with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend..

Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.

That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as 
well...and no toxins left over after recombination.


At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,
>Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended 
>up 
>with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.  I'm used to working 
>with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not.  I was 
>running 15 Hz.  
>
>
>Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  It 
>happened 
>once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal.
>
>Thanks.
>PT

RE: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

[Bob Banever]

Thanks Kathy.  That's a lot of garlic!

 

  _  

From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

 

I take 22 capules of garlic power, plus an ultimate cayenne, from
Swanson(100,000 HU) 3-4 times a day, tapering down as the days go by.  I
don't know how its going to work in the big picture, I take it in capsule,
but you can do the tea if you can stand it.  If the cayenne burns your
stomach, a piece of bread will help.  

- Original Message - 

From: Bob Banever   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:13 PM

Subject: RE: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

 

Kathy,

 

 Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out.  I'm
battling a lung infection right now.  How much of each do you take?  In
capsules, tea, etc?  Thanks.

 

Bob

 


  _  


From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

 

I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time,
I found that I have to take  it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a
day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got
rid of most of the lung infection (the green).  I'm going to stay on it for
another couple days to be sure.  I really want to get off anti-botics

Kathy 

- Original Message - 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick   

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM

Subject: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

 

Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its
tracks' but this is not true.  I have just started a cold and used this
almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse.  I am also using
CS with DMSO but still have the cold.  Just a snippet to say that natural
remedies are not always successful either.  Dee 

RE: CS>OT - zapper burns

[Ode Coyote]

  Not odd, dry towels are less conductive than wet ones...he's made 
himself a resistor to drop the voltage and current available...but might 
not be getting anything if the towel is completly dry


good insulator

Ode

At 02:14 PM 12/26/2012 -0600, you wrote:

Actually, Bob (from another list) said he was told about wetting the 
towels and then letting them dry, then using them.  he tried it and said 
it works a lot better (hes sensitive so he can tell) than using wet 
towels.  Odd, huh?




Samala,

Renee



Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I 
ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.

Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

[Ode Coyote]

The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the 
skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as 
fast as they are being made.

Those are "chemical" burns.
5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.

Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the 
same thing as the pot, but in a different spot]
Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals 
over a larger volume of blood flow.

Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off.
Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's 
opposite.


Ode




If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into 
Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ]
That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold 
cleaner...with a very short shelf life.


The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]

Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like 
everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] 
made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in 
the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. 
[Careful there]


THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can 
be made using junk around the house...used for "blood electrification".


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

BUT

Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal 
wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions ."Electro-chemistry"


SO

The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that 
indicates that it does work.

How could that be?!!!

OK

So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket 
of salt water]


If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt 
when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be 
used for?


1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo 
using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple 
of sponges soaked with salt water]

too much? [burning and itching??]
Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]

2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo 
with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend..


Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.

That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as 
well...and no toxins left over after recombination.



At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,
Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I 
ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.  I'm used 
to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper 
does not.  I was running 15 Hz.


Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  It 
happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal.


Thanks.
PT

Re: CS>Need help

[Ode Coyote]

  The internal description in the Medisana box says the output is a 
nebulizer. [no mention of that on the outside]
You can put your mouth right on it or inhale near it or form a flexible 
hose to attach to it.


They make for an inexpensive very good high volume unit.

Ode


At 09:10 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:
Thank you, Renee.   A couple more questions.  Do you use a Hanna Tester to 
determine your ppm level?


Also -- we have a Medisana personal humidifier (brand-new in the box, 
never used).  It does not have a hose-type attachment for inhaling -- is 
there any reason why a person can't just place their mouth against the 
output port and inhale from there?  Or is it not necessary to physically 
place the mouth on it -- but place mouth/nose near the output port and inhale?

MA


From: Renee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 26, 2012 9:33:04 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Need help

My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a 
day, for a couple days and their chest infection (and sinus as they 
breathed in through their noses) went away totally.  They felt fine after 
the first day, but did it the second day to make sure it was all gone.  Of 
course, they started immediately as soon as they started feeling bad.  it 
may take longer if your husband has waited longer.




Samala,

Renee





So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS.  Having never done this before, I 
need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength?  Also -- how much, how often, 
etc. -- general guidelines.  TIA.


MA

Re: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

[Kathy Tankersley]

Oil of Oregano and coldsI take 22 capules of garlic power, plus an ultimate 
cayenne, from Swanson(100,000 HU) 3-4 times a day, tapering down as the days go 
by.  I don't know how its going to work in the big picture, I take it in 
capsule, but you can do the tea if you can stand it.  If the cayenne burns your 
stomach, a piece of bread will help.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Banever 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:13 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds


  Kathy,

   

   Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out.  I'm 
battling a lung infection right now.  How much of each do you take?  In 
capsules, tea, etc?  Thanks.

   

  Bob

   


--

  From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

   

  I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time, I 
found that I have to take  it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a day for 
the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got rid of most 
of the lung infection (the green).  I'm going to stay on it for another couple 
days to be sure.  I really want to get off anti-botics

  Kathy 

- Original Message - 

From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM

Subject: CS>Oil of Oregano and colds

 

Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its 
tracks' but this is not true.  I have just started a cold and used this almost 
immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse.  I am also using CS with 
DMSO but still have the cold.  Just a snippet to say that natural remedies are 
not always successful either.  Dee 

RE: CS>the wog ?

[Neville Munn]

Hi Tony,
Well that depends on who considers it politically incorrect I suppose, I'm not 
into political correctness, never have been, that's a modern day invention 
thought up by those who have little concept of more important and pressing 
issues of the day to which they should be channelling their energies and 
scholastic abilities.
Your quote: "I think that if I used that in that context now I would be in jail 
pdq."  And that's an example of how academia is changing cultures and who we 
are as a people in general.
Google...'wog for flu' and you'll get definitions, Wiki has it listed, but be 
quick for tomorrow things may have changed overnight .  In the context the 
word is used here it has absolutely zero to do with an individuals nationality, 
it's just a slang word used in reference to the common old cold or flu.  If I 
were to call an immigrant that, then that's a different story of course, then 
it becomes personal.  Old habits die hard mate, and I'll only change when 
decomposition starts to set in .
N.

> From: a...@new.co.za
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:46:46 +0200
> Subject: CS>the wog ?
> 
> Hi Neville,
> 
> Could you please define 'the wog' 
> 
> I've just done a search for wog and can't find anything that fits your 
> discussion. It was used 
> around here, ( but is now very politically incorrect,) to mean worthy 
> oriental gentleman, and 
> was applied to anyone with a darker skin. I think that if I used that in that 
> context now I would 
> be in jail pdq.  
> 
> OK,
> Tony
>