Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Something that I'm struggling with is working out which ones support
> multiple templates.  Most have themeing but this seems to mean for a whole
> site not parts of it.

There's a module for Drupal that lets you use a different theme for any
section.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:55 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> I'd recommend Drupal for something simple and easy to use.

I'll have a closer look at that then.

> >   * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
> > supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
> 
> I think that's the only item that Drupal won't satisfy, but there may be a
> module to help with it.

Something that I'm struggling with is working out which ones support
multiple templates.  Most have themeing but this seems to mean for a
whole site not parts of it.

Still digging...

> > I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.
> 
> You're probably best off trying something that isn't blog-centric.

I was wondering about that.

Thanks.

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Wong
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 15:57 +1000, James Polley wrote:
> cmsmatrix.org has details about a whole lot of CMSes, including a
> feature that allows you to choose the features you want and see what
> CMSes match. They're not all free though, so make sure you specify a
> cost that's appropriate (ie, probably $0)
> 
> opensourcecms.com goes one step further and has demo installs of a
> whole bunch of CMSes for you to try out. You (or your sister) can have
> a play and see what you're comfortable with.

Thanks, I had a look at those sites, quite useful.  Just trying to not
be overwhelmed :-)



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[SLUG] Re: SMB Client

2005-08-29 Thread Bill


I've set up a SOHO File/Print Server using Mepis SOHO beta and have found 
that neither SMB4K or LinNeighborhood are 100% reliable for browsing Samba 
shares.


Konqueror, however, never fails.

In addition, Konqueror does not require you to edit any config files/set up 
any preferences for this purpose, but both SMB4K and LinNeighborhood do.


Use Konqueror and save yourself some work on each of the workstations.

Bill
(still a Linux newbie)

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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread James Polley
No suggestion per se, just two useful websites..

cmsmatrix.org has details about a whole lot of CMSes, including a
feature that allows you to choose the features you want and see what
CMSes match. They're not all free though, so make sure you specify a
cost that's appropriate (ie, probably $0)

opensourcecms.com goes one step further and has demo installs of a
whole bunch of CMSes for you to try out. You (or your sister) can have
a play and see what you're comfortable with.

On 8/30/05, Simon Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.
> 
> It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
>   * A blog where she can put up her latest news
>   * Static HTML pages
>   * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
> supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
>   * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
>   * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)
> 
> I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions for this style of site or feedback on
> using WordPress?
> 
> Most of the CMS's seem to be overpowered, they mostly seem to be based
> around community sites with forums etc that she just doesn't need.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh


> I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.

I'd recommend Drupal for something simple and easy to use.

> It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
>   * A blog where she can put up her latest news
>   * Static HTML pages
>   * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
> supply the text and pictures to fill in the template

I think that's the only item that Drupal won't satisfy, but there may be a
module to help with it.

>   * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
>   * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)
> 
> I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.

You're probably best off trying something that isn't blog-centric.

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[SLUG] Simple website CMS?

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Wong
Hi everyone!

I'm looking to setup a very basic CMS for my sister's website.

It only needs to be quite simple with the following capabilities:
  * A blog where she can put up her latest news
  * Static HTML pages
  * The ability to create new pages from templates where she can
supply the text and pictures to fill in the template
  * All done server side so she can do updates from any browser.
  * MySQL DB and PHP (+ static HTML)

I'm looking at WordPress as it seems to be the closest to what I need.

Does anyone have any suggestions for this style of site or feedback on
using WordPress?

Most of the CMS's seem to be overpowered, they mostly seem to be based
around community sites with forums etc that she just doesn't need.

Thanks for any suggestions.

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[SLUG] Re: Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread jam
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I know nautilus allows this sort of thing,
> >
> > Not sure what underlying distro you're using with LTSP, but if it's a
> > gnome distro then this _may_ be of use.

I'm old
I'm a command line junkie (I love vi)
I setup a linux box, in leau of winders, for a mate, then had to learn a file 
manager to show him, now have him agreeing that konqueror is nicer than 
win-explorer.

SuSE's subfs (auto mount) and konqueror's view profiles have proven an 
absolute success with my install.

An hour learning the ropes pays huge dividends
No stability problems in 18 months of use, heck I even use it as the easiest 
way of sorting/deleting my 100s of PDFs

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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Jeff Waugh wrote:



So you're saying that a file say somedoc.sxw on a samba share, if I 
browse to it using nautilus and double-click to open, it should open in 
OOo instead of spit the dummy (I can't remember the error)? Or is this 
something that would work with a later version of OOo - say 2?



If the version of OOo you're using (depends on distro, version, and possibly
if you have OOo/GNOME support packages installed) supports gnome-vfs, then
100% yes. :-)




H...well there you go. As I'm using ubuntu hoary (all up to date) I 
would expect so...let's take a look at synaptic...look at that 
OOo-gnomevfs not installed...installing now...h...the OOo splash 
appears now (instead of an error as with say a dia file) but the 
openoffice window doesn't...looks like some investigating to do...thanks 
Jeff much appreciated. That's the last 2 outstanding problems with my 
system almost fixed - first was printing from Mozilla apps (kept 
crashing the app), second and last is this opening docs in nautilus 
which is almost fixed - well progress being made anyway :)


In looking at synaptic, I also noticed that OOo 1.9 is there :) will 
have to install and try itbeen looking forward to that for awhile.



Coming soon in Ubuntu -> support for interesting mount options in
pmount, letting your users mount and unmount things like nfs, smb, FUSE
and crypted filesystems without root, but with strong policy (the p in
pmount). Nice!


Ahh, very nice indeed. Looking forward to that. That would certainly
resolve the problem (I would think anyway).



pmount is love. :-)



:D




BTW, kudos on ubuntu. Multimedia setup still needs a little bit of work if
it is to be used mainstream - but that is probably a linux thing
generally.



Yeah, there are a lot of legal issues to sort out there, which restrict us
from doing this stuff *and* making sure it's 100% Open Source.



Actually, that's one of the things I like about Ubuntu (not saying other 
distros aren't though) - the effort to make 100% Open Source. Much 
appreciated.





It's not quite easy enough to use with all applications (eg skype and xmms
together out of the box don't seem to play ball well without a fair amount
of fiddling). I guess in part that's the applications problem.



Yeah, this is an ugly "fix the whole Linux audio stack" problem. We're
working on it. ;-)



Indeed that was my conclusion after I managed to setup multimedia on 
warty and then configure dual sound cards the way I wanted. Most 
definitely not a pleasing "end-user" experience, although in some sick 
twisted way I enjoyed it and learnt somewhat about the linux audio stack 
in the process.


In any case, there was definitely improvement from warty to hoary in 
that area. Again, appreciate the work of the whole ubuntu teamgreat job.


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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Jesus Salvo Jr.
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 11:59, Phil Scarratt wrote:
> Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:30, Peter Rundle wrote:
> >>I'm really looking for a "cuteFTP" equivilent but using SMB. A lot of
> >>the GUI tools blurb describe being able to browse the sub-net and then
> >>mount shares... Does anyone know of one that can transfer files without
> >>actually mounting the share?
> >
> > If you are using Konqueror ... type smb://x.x.x.x in the URL.
> > Then it just appears just like any other filesystem within konqueror.
> > In my case:
> >
> > smb://192.168.0.95/
> >
> > ... shows the shares on the domain server.
> >
> > You can even use fish:// or scp://
>
> Can you double-click to open the files in their native applications and
> generally use the files just as if the location was say
> "/home/fil/Documents"?
>

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Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 65

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This may explain almost everything. The (open)vpn non-bridged clients have the 
wins server pushed to them, but the office machines (out of my 
juristiction :-)

almost certainly do not use the wins server, only broadcast resolution,
and you say thus they wont update the wins server, which is what is happening


If the workstations are windows an 
"ipconfig /all" will display whether or not the workstation knows of a

WINS server. You can tell workstations about a wins server via dhcp - i
think its option-netbios-servers (very similar to option
domain-name-servers). Once this is set, the workstations should resolve
properly using nmblookup unicast to server.

The nmblookup broadcast works because the workstation is replying, but
broadcasts don't necessarily work over VPN (depends on VPN - works over
a bridged openvpn connection).



Will try, thanks lots
James


Just be wary - each subnet can only have one wins server on it.

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[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 29, Issue 65

2005-08-29 Thread jam
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

First thanks lots. Hagged desperate ... 

> > My problem is simple: When a host at the end of a VPN wants to talk to
> > the flexlm on a machine on servers network all goes well until the host
> > says 'I'm george' and the machine says 'hey george' and there is no
> > response.
> >
> > (ie for george read CENTRAL2)
> >
> > Howto resolve 'george' as a netbios name.
> > (yes it's in lmhosts AND dns, and the browser cache, and still the query
> > fails.)
>
> Is server configured as a wins server (wins support = Yes in smb.conf

Yes

> file)? Are the clients configured for a wins server? Unless they are
> told of a wins server, they will not update the wins server and hence
> what you describe will happen.

This may explain almost everything. The (open)vpn non-bridged clients have the 
wins server pushed to them, but the office machines (out of my 
juristiction :-)
almost certainly do not use the wins server, only broadcast resolution,
and you say thus they wont update the wins server, which is what is happening

> If the workstations are windows an 
> "ipconfig /all" will display whether or not the workstation knows of a
> WINS server. You can tell workstations about a wins server via dhcp - i
> think its option-netbios-servers (very similar to option
> domain-name-servers). Once this is set, the workstations should resolve
> properly using nmblookup unicast to server.
>
> The nmblookup broadcast works because the workstation is replying, but
> broadcasts don't necessarily work over VPN (depends on VPN - works over
> a bridged openvpn connection).

Will try, thanks lots
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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh


> So you're saying that a file say somedoc.sxw on a samba share, if I 
> browse to it using nautilus and double-click to open, it should open in 
> OOo instead of spit the dummy (I can't remember the error)? Or is this 
> something that would work with a later version of OOo - say 2?

If the version of OOo you're using (depends on distro, version, and possibly
if you have OOo/GNOME support packages installed) supports gnome-vfs, then
100% yes. :-)

> > Coming soon in Ubuntu -> support for interesting mount options in
> > pmount, letting your users mount and unmount things like nfs, smb, FUSE
> > and crypted filesystems without root, but with strong policy (the p in
> > pmount). Nice!
> 
> Ahh, very nice indeed. Looking forward to that. That would certainly
> resolve the problem (I would think anyway).

pmount is love. :-)

> BTW, kudos on ubuntu. Multimedia setup still needs a little bit of work if
> it is to be used mainstream - but that is probably a linux thing
> generally.

Yeah, there are a lot of legal issues to sort out there, which restrict us
from doing this stuff *and* making sure it's 100% Open Source.

> It's not quite easy enough to use with all applications (eg skype and xmms
> together out of the box don't seem to play ball well without a fair amount
> of fiddling). I guess in part that's the applications problem.

Yeah, this is an ugly "fix the whole Linux audio stack" problem. We're
working on it. ;-)

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[SLUG] Re: Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Tentmaker

Are Gnomba and linuxneighbourhood still around  ?

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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Jeff Waugh wrote:




Ahhh yesI've found opening files by double-click doesn't work in that
scenario with nautilus either. Usually got to copy the files locally, then
open, edit, save and recopy them back - a real fiddle especially if you
have to do it often.



It depends on the applications you're using. If they're gnome-vfs aware, you
won't have any problems at all. These days, that covers most of the major
non-GNOME desktop apps (OOo, Mozilla, etc). But yes, more needs to be done.



So you're saying that a file say somedoc.sxw on a samba share, if I 
browse to it using nautilus and double-click to open, it should open in 
OOo instead of spit the dummy (I can't remember the error)? Or is this 
something that would work with a later version of OOo - say 2?


I've found the above scenario doesn't work on my setup, but if it is 
supposed to then I'll spend some time trying to work out why it doesn't 
at the moment.



Coming soon in Ubuntu -> support for interesting mount options in pmount,
letting your users mount and unmount things like nfs, smb, FUSE and crypted
filesystems without root, but with strong policy (the p in pmount). Nice!



Ahh, very nice indeed. Looking forward to that. That would certainly 
resolve the problem (I would think anyway).


BTW, kudos on ubuntu. Multimedia setup still needs a little bit of work 
if it is to be used mainstream - but that is probably a linux thing 
generally. It's not quite easy enough to use with all applications (eg 
skype and xmms together out of the box don't seem to play ball well 
without a fair amount of fiddling). I guess in part that's the 
applications problem.


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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Ahhh yesI've found opening files by double-click doesn't work in that
> scenario with nautilus either. Usually got to copy the files locally, then
> open, edit, save and recopy them back - a real fiddle especially if you
> have to do it often.

It depends on the applications you're using. If they're gnome-vfs aware, you
won't have any problems at all. These days, that covers most of the major
non-GNOME desktop apps (OOo, Mozilla, etc). But yes, more needs to be done.

Coming soon in Ubuntu -> support for interesting mount options in pmount,
letting your users mount and unmount things like nfs, smb, FUSE and crypted
filesystems without root, but with strong policy (the p in pmount). Nice!

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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Jeff Waugh


> When I first saw Nautilus a thought it was going to be a really neat piece
> of gear, but I'm so disappointed with it. I just find it unusable and the
> end users don't like it either.

Would love to get more in-depth feedback from you about this at some stage.

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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote:

On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:30, Peter Rundle wrote:


I'm really looking for a "cuteFTP" equivilent but using SMB. A lot of
the GUI tools blurb describe being able to browse the sub-net and then
mount shares... Does anyone know of one that can transfer files without
actually mounting the share?




If you are using Konqueror ... type smb://x.x.x.x in the URL.
Then it just appears just like any other filesystem within konqueror.
In my case:

smb://192.168.0.95/

... shows the shares on the domain server.

You can even use fish:// or scp://





Can you double-click to open the files in their native applications and 
generally use the files just as if the location was say 
"/home/fil/Documents"?


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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Jesus Salvo Jr.
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:30, Peter Rundle wrote:
>
> I'm really looking for a "cuteFTP" equivilent but using SMB. A lot of
> the GUI tools blurb describe being able to browse the sub-net and then
> mount shares... Does anyone know of one that can transfer files without
> actually mounting the share?
>

If you are using Konqueror ... type smb://x.x.x.x in the URL.
Then it just appears just like any other filesystem within konqueror.
In my case:

smb://192.168.0.95/

... shows the shares on the domain server.

You can even use fish:// or scp://



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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Peter Rundle wrote:


When I first saw Nautilus a thought it was going to be a really neat 
piece of gear, but I'm so disappointed with it. I just find it unusable 
and the end users don't like it either.


What my users want is a simple tool to browse their local disk, and 
those of other PC's on the local lan, and then either open files by 
double click or move/copy by drag and drop. Forget the skins, forget the 
fancy colours and image backgrounds and other stuff, lets just do the 
basics well and simply.




Ahhh yesI've found opening files by double-click doesn't work in 
that scenario with nautilus either. Usually got to copy the files 
locally, then open, edit, save and recopy them back - a real fiddle 
especially if you have to do it often. Like you said, I sometimes wish 
software would just do the simple basics well, and worry about pretty 
later. Having said that, pretty does matter to a lot of people (which is 
ridiculous really). I've known people to go for less 
functionality/usability over pretty.


So far I've got XFe as the file manager and it does a great job except 
it isn't smb share aware. xsmbrowser works ok to a degree but again the 
layout is not exactly logical and it's not integrated with the file 
browser.


Linux on the desktop using terminal server approach, it's a losing 
battle with the users I'm afraid. I could of course write my own file / 
network explorer, but I don't have the time nor the skill. Sometimes I 
think I might just give in to the PC on each desktop mentality. Maybe 
not as neat from a technology stand point, but then it's not my design 
nor responsibility and it's what most users are used to.




Again, I've had the same experience. I found I was pushing it all uphill 
kinda thing.


Good luck...I haven't been able to solve the smb browsing problem yet 
either.


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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Rundle

Phil Scarratt wrote:

I know nautilus allows this sort of thing, 


Not sure what underlying distro you're using with LTSP, but if it's a 
gnome distro then this _may_ be of use.


Thanks Phil,

but...

When I first saw Nautilus a thought it was going to be a really neat 
piece of gear, but I'm so disappointed with it. I just find it unusable 
and the end users don't like it either.


What my users want is a simple tool to browse their local disk, and 
those of other PC's on the local lan, and then either open files by 
double click or move/copy by drag and drop. Forget the skins, forget the 
fancy colours and image backgrounds and other stuff, lets just do the 
basics well and simply.


So far I've got XFe as the file manager and it does a great job except 
it isn't smb share aware. xsmbrowser works ok to a degree but again the 
layout is not exactly logical and it's not integrated with the file 
browser.


Linux on the desktop using terminal server approach, it's a losing 
battle with the users I'm afraid. I could of course write my own file / 
network explorer, but I don't have the time nor the skill. Sometimes I 
think I might just give in to the PC on each desktop mentality. Maybe 
not as neat from a technology stand point, but then it's not my design 
nor responsibility and it's what most users are used to.


P.
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Re: [SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router

2005-08-29 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:56:13AM +1000, Richard Luckhurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Thanks James

[snip]

> Have a look at the bind 9 admin reference:
> 
> http://www.nominum.com/content/documents/bind9arm.pdf
> specifically sections 6.2.19 and 6.2.20 (page 80).
> 


In the example below note that:

 * directory is the root of the named tree

 * "data" is SUB directory of the directory statement in the options section

 * forwarders is what the ISP has given to you

 * version is a later thing so people cant find out whether you have a buggy 
bind

 * in the internal you must set recursion to yes

 * in the external you must set recursion to no

 * observe the "match-clients" statement, VERY important.

 * make sure that for the domains YOU ARE responsible to set
   forwarders to nothing!!

 * the forwarders statement in the options section is only
   for your *INTERNAL* network to recurse to the next
   DNS server (your isp) in case your DNS server does not
   have it in cache!

-- example

acl "internal" { localhost; 192.168.0.0/16; };

options {
  directory "/var/named";
  forwarders { YOUR_UPSTREAM_ISP_DNS_SERVER(s); };
  query-source port 53;
  version "Not_Disclosed";
};

view "internal" {
match-clients { "internal"; };
recursion yes;
zone "." {
  type hint;
  file "root.hints";
};
zone "YOURDOMAIN"{
  type master;
  file "data/YOURDOMAIN.internal";
  forwarders {};
  allow-update { localhost; };
};
};

view "external" {
match-clients { any; };
recursion no;
zone "." {
  type hint;
  file "root.hints";
};
zone "YOURDOMAIN"{
  type master;
  file "data/YOURDOMAIN.external";
  forwarders {};
  allow-update { localhost; };
};
}









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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Rundle

Dean Hamstead wrote:

i would recommend to you...
xsmbclient


Did you mean xsmbrowser? I couldn't find an xsmbclient.

P.


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Re: [SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Peter Rundle wrote:

Sluggers,

I've a need to provide users with a GUI interface to smbclient. I've 
found the samba.org/samba/GUI/ page with quite a lot of gui tools on it 
however some appear to be broken links and other promise a bit but then 
don't get me want I need.


Perhaps someone out there can recommend a tool so that I don't have to 
download and install the lot to find the one that does the trick.


I need to allow my users to browse shares on the local LAN and copy 
files to and from their Linux directory on the Server to another users 
share directory on a windows PC.



My users are via LTSP on a Linux server so I do *not* want them to have 
to attach a share to the server in order to transfer files. Of course 
the PC user can attach the file servers shares to their PC but my users 
are running on the server and need to either fetch or place a file onto 
the "remote" users PC.


I'm really looking for a "cuteFTP" equivilent but using SMB. A lot of 
the GUI tools blurb describe being able to browse the sub-net and then 
mount shares... Does anyone know of one that can transfer files without 
actually mounting the share?


TIA's

Pete


I know nautilus allows this sort of thing, but not sure what version, or 
if it is nautilus that does it or some other addon or something in 
ubuntu or what. On my nautilus (ubuntu hoary), I can just type in the 
location bar something like "network:///" and it displays a list of 
network locations available. In my case "Windows Network" appears along 
with a list of  any Windows workstations on my network. Clicking on one 
changes the location to say "smb://workstation1" and lists the shares 
available. I could then go into one and copy or paste files to/from it.


Not sure what underlying distro you're using with LTSP, but if it's a 
gnome distro then this _may_ be of use.


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[SLUG] Smb Client GUI

2005-08-29 Thread Peter Rundle

Sluggers,

I've a need to provide users with a GUI interface to smbclient. I've 
found the samba.org/samba/GUI/ page with quite a lot of gui tools on it 
however some appear to be broken links and other promise a bit but then 
don't get me want I need.


Perhaps someone out there can recommend a tool so that I don't have to 
download and install the lot to find the one that does the trick.


I need to allow my users to browse shares on the local LAN and copy 
files to and from their Linux directory on the Server to another users 
share directory on a windows PC.



My users are via LTSP on a Linux server so I do *not* want them to have 
to attach a share to the server in order to transfer files. Of course 
the PC user can attach the file servers shares to their PC but my users 
are running on the server and need to either fetch or place a file onto 
the "remote" users PC.


I'm really looking for a "cuteFTP" equivilent but using SMB. A lot of 
the GUI tools blurb describe being able to browse the sub-net and then 
mount shares... Does anyone know of one that can transfer files without 
actually mounting the share?


TIA's

Pete
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Re: [SLUG] First time installing application.

2005-08-29 Thread john gibbons
Thanks James and Simon, it is up and running.

The application is called 'cMap', a freebie from 'cmap.ihmc.us'. It is
an improvement on the Mind Map way of developing concepts. I gave it a
trial run and prefer it to the way Mind Map works.

And that triggers a thought - perhaps it might be a useful way of
showing Linux converts like me a clearer way of following  and
understanding the purposes and links of the multiple textual commands of
Linux. The GUIs are becoming clearer and easier to use by beginners but
the textual stuff is still offputting and confusing.

John.

James Polley wrote:

>On 8/29/05, Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>chmod +x Desktop/filename.bin 
>>Desktop/filename.bin 
>>
>>Then it will install.
>>
>>
>
>Depending on what this needs to do to install, you may have to run
>this as root (using sudo or su). Of course, running it as root means
>it can do whatever it wants to do, so be careful.
>
>Out of curiosity, what is it that you're installing? Unless it's
>something really bizarre, it probably already has a debian package
>(.dpkg) version which will install simpler and cleaner.. and if not,
>compiling from source will probably give you a better result than
>installing precompiled binaries (although not neccessarily)
>
>Oh, and that sms you got tonight? that was from me, you galoot :p See
>you.. thursday?
>  
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[SLUG] Re: Firefox print crash

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Phil Scarratt wrote:

Hi

Has anyone else had trouble with firefox or thunderbird crashing when 
you press CTRL+P or select Print from the File menu? I'm using Ubuntu 
Hoary.


It's driving me insane. Currently googling but what is really insane is 
that after I try something to fix it, I have to click print of course 
and firefox crashes again..arrrggg


Fil



Well there you goyou think I'd've looked in the Ubuntu forums 
firstturns out it is related to the Desktop theme - yes you read 
that right, the desktop not the FF theme. This even though FF and TB are 
the only apps affected - OOo is fine, as are others. Anyway, I was 
running Amaranth desktop theme, changed to Simple and all fine.


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RE: [SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router

2005-08-29 Thread Richard Luckhurst
Thanks James

That looks just like what I want to do for this guy. I had not come across
the Bind "view" directive before. I had a look at the Bind documentation and
am now even more confused. Does anyone have a nice explanation of how to use
the "view" directive? I guess this is what is known as split DNS isn't it?

Regards

Richard

-Original Message-
From: James Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 29 August 2005 2:26 PM
To: Richard Luckhurst; Slug
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Webserver behind ADSL router


On Monday 29 August 2005 14:03, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
>
> > Has anyone ever set a web server up on an ADSL line anything like this?
> > If so I would appreciate the benefit of your experience. Has anyone had
> > experience in setting up the DNS for a situation like this? If so I
would
> > appreciate any help.
>
> There's no trickery involved. Just set the A records for the root domain
> and the www subdomain to his ADSL's static IP... and you're done.
>
> - Jeff

Just to add to Jeff's comments, if you need separate addresses returned by
the
DNS server depending on whether the request came from an internal or
external
client, you might want to look at ISC Bind's (ver 9+) "view" directive.

Let's say your customer's webserver (www.foo.com) has the address
192.168.0.80
but it's external (internet static IP via NAT) is 1.2.3.4.  You probably
want
internal users to have www.foo.com resolve to 192.168.0.80 but external
users
resolve to 1.2.3.4.  ISC Bind's "view" will allow you to do this with a
single config file and single named daemon - and it's actually quite simple
to do.

Have a look at the bind 9 admin reference:

http://www.nominum.com/content/documents/bind9arm.pdf
specifically sections 6.2.19 and 6.2.20 (page 80).

HTH,

James
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Re: [SLUG] Firefox print crash

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

Simon Males wrote:


Related to this ?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281367

I experienced similar in TB 1.0.x but it has been fixed now.



Thanks Simon. I thought you were on to something there, but I'm running 
version 1.0.6 of both tb and ff and the bug says it was fixed for 1.0.1


I've tried all the usual:

- new profile
- safemode
- as root
- downloaded firefox from mozilla as opposed to ubuntu package and 
installed to a directory in my home and removed the check for already 
running (although the libs used when I ran this version were probably 
still the ubuntu package ones??)
- followed all procedures I can on Mozilla site for debugging problems 
(remove extension folders, compreg.dat, etc etc)


All to no avail. This is really driving me insaneit's gotta be 
something on my system - presumably other people are not seeing the same 
(yes I'm using cups for printing).


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Re: [SLUG] SAMBA weirdness

2005-08-29 Thread Phil Scarratt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My problem is simple: When a host at the end of a VPN wants to talk to the 
flexlm on a machine on servers network all goes well until the host says

'I'm george' and the machine says 'hey george' and there is no response.

(ie for george read CENTRAL2)

Howto resolve 'george' as a netbios name.
(yes it's in lmhosts AND dns, and the browser cache, and still the query 
fails.)





Is server configured as a wins server (wins support = Yes in smb.conf 
file)? Are the clients configured for a wins server? Unless they are 
told of a wins server, they will not update the wins server and hence 
what you describe will happen. If the workstations are windows an 
"ipconfig /all" will display whether or not the workstation knows of a 
WINS server. You can tell workstations about a wins server via dhcp - i 
think its option-netbios-servers (very similar to option 
domain-name-servers). Once this is set, the workstations should resolve 
properly using nmblookup unicast to server.


The nmblookup broadcast works because the workstation is replying, but 
broadcasts don't necessarily work over VPN (depends on VPN - works over 
a bridged openvpn connection).


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[SLUG] Software Freedom Day 2005 - September 10th

2005-08-29 Thread Chris Deigan
Linux Australia and SLUG is proud to announce Software Freedom Day on 
September 10!
Software Freedom Day is a global initiative to celebrate and give back
to the community by taking Free and Open Source software to the streets.

SLUG will be celebrating Software Freedom Day by distributing CDs in the
central Sydney CBD, whilst holding an installfest for Linux and any sort
of Free Software at UTS Broadway.

For the day we'll have all kinds of SFD gear to give-out, including
balloons, stickers, temporary tattoos, etc. Our aim for the day is to
raise awareness of Free Software.

Of course, with all events of this size, SLUG is after volunteers for
the installfest or getting out on the street. If you are interested in
helping out, be sure to let Pia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> know, so we can
organise hand-out permits and who's where. :)

For people unfamiliar with the free software out there, we encourage you
to drop by the InstallFest at UTS on the day, running from 10am 'till
4:30pm in room 2.5.30 (Building 2, Level 5, Room 530).

Hope to see you out there!
 - Chris.

(For the *socs out there receiving this, you guys are definantly invited
and I'd like to encourage you to pass this on to your members).
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[SLUG] SAMBA weirdness

2005-08-29 Thread jam
Hi

after 2 weeks of struggling I throw in the towel. Any kind soul able to save 
the day.

I have a samba server, wins support, master domain browser, local master, dns 
proxy.
lmhosts has no effect what so ever
resolve order shows this
dns (hosts) sort of works ...

server:~ # cat /var/lib/samba/browse.dat 
"WORKGROUP"   c0001000 "SERVER"  "WORKGROUP"
"SERVER"  400d9a03 "Samba 3.0.12-5-SUSE" "WORKGROUP"
"EDC-1"   40011003 """WORKGROUP"
"THUNDER" 40011203 "Thunder Box" "WORKGROUP"
"MECH"40011003 "mech""WORKGROUP"
"MARKTHRIFT"  40011007 """WORKGROUP"
"CENTRAL2"40011203 """WORKGROUP"
This is the wins browse data:

server:~ # nmblookup -U server.edc -R "EDC-1"
querying EDC-1 on 192.168.17.254
name_query failed to find name EDC-1

this fails to find EDC-1

server:~ # nmblookup -U server.edc -R MECH
querying MECH on 192.168.17.254
192.168.17.201 MECH<00>

oh this works, even though the previous didn't

server:~ # nmblookup -U server.edc -R THUNDER
querying THUNDER on 192.168.17.254
192.168.17.200 THUNDER<00>

works

server:~ # nmblookup -U server.edc -R CENTRAL2
querying CENTRAL2 on 192.168.17.254
name_query failed to find name CENTRAL2

nope

server:~ # nmblookup -R CENTRAL2
querying CENTRAL2 on 192.168.17.255
192.168.17.150 CENTRAL2<00>

do a broadcast, yep its there!

server:~ # nmblookup -U server.edc -R CENTRAL2
querying CENTRAL2 on 192.168.17.254
name_query failed to find name CENTRAL2

OK by now I'm utterly confused:
when does the broswer cache work
when does samba's lmhosts work
how to trouble shoot the unanswered queries!

"Using SAMBA", o'reiley, says: this is not difficult with some complexity ...
Wow I find no semblance of rational order here.

My problem is simple: When a host at the end of a VPN wants to talk to the 
flexlm on a machine on servers network all goes well until the host says
'I'm george' and the machine says 'hey george' and there is no response.

(ie for george read CENTRAL2)

Howto resolve 'george' as a netbios name.
(yes it's in lmhosts AND dns, and the browser cache, and still the query 
fails.)

Thanks
James
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Re: [SLUG] First time installing application.

2005-08-29 Thread James Polley
On 8/29/05, Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> chmod +x Desktop/filename.bin 
> Desktop/filename.bin 
> 
> Then it will install.

Depending on what this needs to do to install, you may have to run
this as root (using sudo or su). Of course, running it as root means
it can do whatever it wants to do, so be careful.

Out of curiosity, what is it that you're installing? Unless it's
something really bizarre, it probably already has a debian package
(.dpkg) version which will install simpler and cleaner.. and if not,
compiling from source will probably give you a better result than
installing precompiled binaries (although not neccessarily)

Oh, and that sms you got tonight? that was from me, you galoot :p See
you.. thursday?
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Re: [SLUG] First time installing application.

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Males

Open the terminal. Type:

chmod +x Desktop/filename.bin 
Desktop/filename.bin 

Then it will install.

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john gibbons wrote:

I am running Ubuntu and have just downloaded an application from an
outside source but do not know how to install it. It sits on the
desktop. The file finishes with .bin. Clicking yields a message which
tells me to 'rename the file to the correct extension for "shell
script"'. I do not know how to or what happens after that. Help would be
appreciated.

John.

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Re: [SLUG] Firefox print crash

2005-08-29 Thread Simon Males


Related to this ?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=281367

I experienced similar in TB 1.0.x but it has been fixed now.

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Phil Scarratt wrote:

Hi

Has anyone else had trouble with firefox or thunderbird crashing when 
you press CTRL+P or select Print from the File menu? I'm using Ubuntu 
Hoary.


It's driving me insane. Currently googling but what is really insane is 
that after I try something to fix it, I have to click print of course 
and firefox crashes again..arrrggg


Fil

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Re: [SLUG] internet

2005-08-29 Thread Dean Hamstead

fc4 should have a nice interface to make it simple

Dean

Paul Maloney wrote:

Sorry dial-up


On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 21:47 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:


dial up or broadband?

Dean

Paul Maloney wrote:


Hi,
Once again I need your help. I can't for some reason do a connection to
my ISP without having to go through a lot of key strokes. Is there an
easier way and how do I do it. As you can see I am a very early beginner
at Linux but compared to the other OS this one is betterand faster. I am
running Fedora Core 4 and so far everything is running well except my
internet connection.
Regards Paul.









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[SLUG] internet connection

2005-08-29 Thread Paul Maloney

Hi,
Well I think I have finally worked it out as to how to connect to 
internet. It takes a while and I have to be hit on the head a few times 
but eventially it stays in my head. Thanks for all your help as I am now 
using Linux to send you this email. It is great not to have to go back 
to that other OS to send your mail. Thanks again.

Paul
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Re: [SLUG] ubuntu mod perl2

2005-08-29 Thread ashley maher
Thanks Gus,

It maybe better for me to hunt around for a post API release for Hoary
then. I'll check backports.

Regards,

Ashley


On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 16:46 +0100, Angus Lees wrote:
> At Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:30:42 +1000, Ashley Maher wrote:
> > I loaded the mod perl2 package into Ubuntu.
> 
> > The registery scripts worked well.
> > 
> > The handler modules test failed misserably.
> 
> > mod_perl/1.99_14 Perl/v5.8.4 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 configured -- resuming
> > normal operations
> [...]
> > [Sat Aug 27 12:39:46 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Can't locate
> > Apache2/RequestRec.pm in @INC (@INC
> > contains: /usr/lib/perl5/Apache2 /var/www /etc/perl 
> > /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 
> > /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 
> > /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2/ /etc/apache2/lib/perl) at 
> > /var/www/MyApache2/Rocks.pm line 8.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> > /var/www/MyApache2/Rocks.pm line 8.\nCompilation failed in require at (eval 
> > 4) line 3.\n
> 
> mod_perl2 changed the names of the critical libraries in one of the
> late prereleases (in order to avoid compatibility problems with
> mod_perl1)
> 
> You are using a pre-API-change mod_perl2 with code written from
> post-API-change documentation.
> 
> Basically the pre-API-change stuff was to "use Apache2" somewhere and
> then use "Apache::RequestRec", etc (ie without the "2" on the prefix).
> I don't have a box handy with pre-API-change mod_perl2 handy, but you
> should be able to work things out by looking at what files you
> actually have below /usr/lib/perl5/Apache2/.
> 
> Be aware that any code you right to this API will not work against the
> released version of mod_perl2 (it was released too late into the sarge
> release process to make it into that release unfortunately).  In most
> cases the changes are a simple search+replace however.
> 

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Re: [SLUG] internet

2005-08-29 Thread Dean Hamstead

dial up or broadband?

Dean

Paul Maloney wrote:

Hi,
Once again I need your help. I can't for some reason do a connection to
my ISP without having to go through a lot of key strokes. Is there an
easier way and how do I do it. As you can see I am a very early beginner
at Linux but compared to the other OS this one is betterand faster. I am
running Fedora Core 4 and so far everything is running well except my
internet connection.
Regards Paul.




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[SLUG] internet

2005-08-29 Thread Paul Maloney
Hi,
Once again I need your help. I can't for some reason do a connection to
my ISP without having to go through a lot of key strokes. Is there an
easier way and how do I do it. As you can see I am a very early beginner
at Linux but compared to the other OS this one is betterand faster. I am
running Fedora Core 4 and so far everything is running well except my
internet connection.
Regards Paul.


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Re: [SLUG] bulk mail script

2005-08-29 Thread Sam Couter
Alexander Else <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> A task has been allocated to me to send out a mail (possibly with a word/pdf
> attachment) to a few hundred email addresses in an hour and a half.  As i 
> don't
> have a lot of time to do my homework on this one, i hope someone can point me 
> to
> one or two options for a script that will do this for me.

If you're sending to people who do want what you're sending, use mpack:

mpack -s "Here's some SPAM" -d /file/with/text/message -c application/pdf 
/path/to/pdf/attachment [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you are spamming people who don't want what you're sending, a red hot
poker in the eyeball would be too kind.
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[SLUG] First time installing application.

2005-08-29 Thread john gibbons
I am running Ubuntu and have just downloaded an application from an
outside source but do not know how to install it. It sits on the
desktop. The file finishes with .bin. Clicking yields a message which
tells me to 'rename the file to the correct extension for "shell
script"'. I do not know how to or what happens after that. Help would be
appreciated.

John.
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Re: [SLUG] linux box as router

2005-08-29 Thread Lindsay Holmwood

Michael Fox wrote:


On 8/29/05, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This way, you are splitting up the tasks amongst the devices. The modem can
use PPPoA (which in many cases is better than PPPoE) but it doesn't hinder
firewalling/forwarding.



Yes, PPPoA in my opinion appears to be alot more robust then PPPoE, but YMMV.

You most likely find that because oE adds another layer of complexity. 
PPPoE is actually PPPoAoE.


Most DSLAMs actually support PPPoA, but you most likely won't be able to 
get support from your provider if connection level stuff goes awry. 
PPPoA is usually marginally (and I mean /marginally/) faster.


Cheers!
Lindsay
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Re: [SLUG] linux box as router

2005-08-29 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

> On 8/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would like to know it anyone is running a linux
> box as their adsl
> router/modem?

Very much, alive and kicking. I have an old P2 133
Mhz,   x86 system with 128 MB RAM where I installed
Slackware and converted it to a router. 

Earlier, I had used Knoppix 3.6 installed to hard disk
on this system. Do check my documentation at:

http://www.shakthimaan.com -> BSNL DataOne

Regards,

SK



Shakthi Kannan, MS
Software Engineer, Specsoft (Hexaware Technologies)
[E]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [M]: (91) 98407-87007
[W]: http://www.shakthimaan.com  [L]: Chennai, India


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[SLUG] Konquie crashing when trying to save Ooffice file

2005-08-29 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi all,

I left my daughter in the home office and when I came back, she'd been 
'playing' with the 'other elements' of the machine - I know, I've been 
meaning to create a user id for her.


This is a FC3 machine running Ooffice 1.1.3.

So, today I go to save an ooffice text file and get the following fault 
from Konqueror:


Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -174834784 (LWP 5988)]
[New Thread -179696720 (LWP 5992)]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -174834784 (LWP 5988)]
[New Thread -179696720 (LWP 5992)]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread -174834784 (LWP 5988)]
[New Thread -179696720 (LWP 5992)]
[KCrash handler]
#4  0xf6747324 in __dynamic_cast () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
#5  0xf64afb99 in KAcceleratorManager::setNoAccel ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#6  0xf64afd10 in KAcceleratorManager::manage () from 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#7  0xf64afd3d in KAcceleratorManager::manage () from 
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4

#8  0xf64f63ec in KCheckAccelerators::checkAccelerators ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#9  0xf64f6b02 in KCheckAccelerators::autoCheckSlot ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#10 0xf64f6b93 in KCheckAccelerators::qt_invoke ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#11 0xf5f1610e in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0xf5f167e4 in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#13 0xf624a8dd in QTimer::timeout () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#14 0xf5f35ebc in QTimer::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0xf5eb7539 in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0xf5eb76ca in QApplication::notify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0xf63f8028 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#18 0xf5eab8ab in QEventLoop::activateTimers ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0xf5e676fe in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0xf5eccb85 in QEventLoop::enterLoop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0xf5eb6761 in QApplication::enter_loop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0xf6097ae0 in QDialog::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x08053ccf in FileDialog::customEvent ()
#24 0xf5f137be in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0xf5f4be5a in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0xf5eb7539 in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0xf5eb76ca in QApplication::notify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#28 0xf63f8028 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#29 0xf5eb8696 in QApplication::sendPostedEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0xf5eb8722 in QApplication::sendPostedEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0xf5e67125 in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0xf5eccb85 in QEventLoop::enterLoop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#33 0xf5eccade in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#34 0xf5eb673b in QApplication::exec () from 
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3

#35 0x08057a18 in main ()


I've uninstalled and reinstalled Ooffice and reinstalled elements of 
KDE, but no success.


In the external program path, for file manager program, it shows:

kfmclient openProfile filemanagement

I've tried it with:

/bin/lib/konqueror

but this doesn't help either

(BTW in SimplyMepis 3.3, Ooffice shows:

a blank space!)

I'm not sure where to raise this error (other than this group :)) and 
I'm not sure what I can do about it.


Would someone be able to either interpret the output for me and suggest 
someway of working through it, or suggest somewhere else I can post?


I'm afraid I need a bit of clarity in this... I've just got home from 
hospital and am on synthetic morphine (no, nothing exciting, just renal 
colic) so am a little vague and don't want to try anything that requires 
too much fiddling around :)))


Thanks all (as usual) :)

Regards,

Patrick
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