e-mail

[Ruth Carnie]

I recently became unable to receive my e-mails via Sea Monkey. What 
should I do to have this reinstated?

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e-mail problem

[Chris Shrader]

Hi; I recently began having a problem with my e-mail. In a number of 
instances, when messages get moved from the Inbox to another folder - 
either manually or by my message filters (which had for years always 
worked properly) - they become corrupted. In some cases all contents 
including the subject line are blanked out. In other instances the 
contents of a totally separate e-mail gets inserted into the one being 
moved. In still other cases, contents of a binary file gets ins as the 
message contents.  Any suggestions would be appreciated. - Chirs

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E-mail Reply

[bsweetcan]

I used to be able to chose to reply above or below the message, where is that 
choice now?
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Re: E-Mail

[WaltS48]

On 3/13/17 6:53 PM, l.thames wrote:
Trying to send message to my Dr.can't send "not in the form 
user a host" how do I corredt?  Lee Thames



Send it in user at host format which would be a valid email address like 
user@domain.something.


Sounds like your doctors email address is incorrect.

This may help. 



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E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very

well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill
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Recover E-Mail?

[schwenkl]

SM 2.5 automatically installed itself, but after installation it 
couldn't be opened. Restoring to two earlier dates did get 2.4.1 back, 
but it couldn't be opened either. Uninstalled, and downloaded 2.5 fresh. 
Now works, although very slowly, but lost all e-mail and news groups, 
and had to establish from scratch. Now no old e-mails.


Working, but how do I get my old e-mail files back? Only the new 
messages show. And how do I get SM to show in Quick Launch so I can 
start it from there?


And OT -- how do I get the "Show Desktop" on the QL bar as well? (It was 
there when 2.5 opened, but disappeared somewhere along the way, no doubt 
unskilled operator error!)


Thank you for any SM advice you can give me, and if you could also 
discuss the "Show Desktop" question I would be extra appreciative.

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Missing E-Mail

[Larry S.]

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72. 
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2. 
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts 
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks, address 
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new mail 
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had before 
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.


My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I 
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's 
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?


One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes 
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That 
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?


All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry

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E-Mail problem

[Jim P]

I have Win 7, SM 2.9.  In the past week I have had a problem with 
messages in that I can read them when I receive them.  Then when I go 
back to them they have reverted to the coding for the message.  I 
deleted the msf file for the inbox and I thought that had cleared it up. 
 Now it's doing it again.  Such as this


   • style="text-decoration:underline;" 
href="http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACKQh1JEPAsZdAp8H5eWQ00EXEwA7pN/l66/hUDwYeZwO2evoMfC+cfXOCrAMkSGz7YmvXBW17bTVbtXFkIQQd5ZfgSDRRVwSPw==&campaign_id=129&instance_id=14454&segment_id=32229&user_id=2456364413ebfd7b20cac5c7bc5b8a75";>More 
Sports News »











style="font-size:1.4em;font-weight:bold;line-height:1.2857em;margin:5px 
0 8px 0;">NEW 
YORK / REGION


href="http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgCXhN1f3K3sKR1z2IdSafcxYjDQd30HOBuI4BwuqfaBNyxSHrV3yZOI9sBUoIeWDzV/KWOoKTMT7bV7CqJHy3J9f5hoGmmv2aQy/UGSMWXLWEswp68lHujRqAhCi6s3CfIUEPGADHX3o7qDeq/4IgFcfM2jG9cAuvz8ap269mdbc=&campaign_id=129&instance_id=14454&segment_id=32229&user_id=2456364413ebfd7b20cac5c7bc5b8a75"; 
style="text-decoration:none;">
					After Number of Gifted Soars, a Fight 
for Kindergarten Slots



By ANNA M. PHILLIPS 


	Nearly 5,000 
children qualified for gifted and talented kindergarten seats in New 
York City public schools in the fall, 22 percent more than last year and 
more than double the number four years ago.

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E-mail problem

[George & Pat Achilles]

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my 
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail.  I am constantly receiving 
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not 
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox.  Most of my 
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being 
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser.  
I have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also 
experiencing the same situation.  Also they are receiving duplicate 
e-mails from time to time.


I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released.  I 
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.  
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.


Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles

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e mail question

[Moe Putney]

my wife sends me an email on sea monkey with a MP4 and when I go to open 
it, the default is note pad and It only gives me gobbily gook. How do I 
get my default of note pad to change to a program thea will open the MP4 
info or picture.

I right clicked and tried to see properties but no luck.
Can anyone help me??? I have been enjoying Sea Monkey for years and 
it works great but I need to change the default opener to a program that 
will open my MP4's. Hope you can solve my problem. thanks

Moe Putney.
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NO MORE E-MAIL

[Florindo Feuti]

PLEASE STOP THE E-MAIL OR SEND ME A LINK TO DO SO.

THANK YOU,
FLORINDO FEUTI
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Attaching another e-mail.

[Ant]

Hello.

I have an interesting issue. It seems like some e-mail clients (e.g., 
Outlook) don't know what to do with attached e-mails inside the e-mails. 
I usually attach a sent e-mail into my new e-mail to send. Is this by 
design or a bug in SeaMonkey v2.33.1 and/or ThunderBird?


How can I have it behave like Outlook when I can attach an e-mail in 
another e-mail?


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Wowway E-Mail Issue

[Bill or Linda Rothman]

Suddenly, withing the past week or so, anyone in my Address Book with a 
Wowway.com e-mail address is getting rejected with a failure notice:


This message was created automatically by the mail system (ecelerity).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


(person's name)@wowway.com  (reading confirmation): 554 5.7.1 [P4] Message 
blocked due to spam content in the message.



I have been writing to these folks for years using Sea Monkey and this 
has never occurred before.


I need help fixing this, please.

Thank you,  -Bill Rothman

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Re: E-mail Reply

[Paul B. Gallagher]

bsweet...@gmail.com wrote:


I used to be able to chose to reply above or below the message, where
is that choice now?


It's under Edit | Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings |  | 
Composition & Addressing, so you have to make the choice for each of 
your accounts.


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[EE]

bsweet...@gmail.com wrote:

I used to be able to chose to reply above or below the message, where is that 
choice now?

It is in "Composition & Addressing" in the account in "Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings".  That settings item is in the Edit menu for Mac 
SeaMonkey.  Not sure about other operating systems.


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Can't access E-mail

[stan pierce]

I have two E-mail addresses. On the one I normally use, when I click on 
Get Msg I see the message below saying: Host contacted. Sending login 
information. Then it hangs there. If I try it with my other E-mail 
address it works normally. I also am able to access my E-mail through 
xfinity.com.


Is it possible there is something wrong with my account settings??

Thanks. Stan.
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e-mail sending issue

[acampbell5356]

At intermittent times I get this Alert or error message when trying to send 
e-mail. Most times I try again an hour or so later and it goes through. Any 
idea's? 


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e-mail sending issue

[Adam Campbell]

At intermittent times I get this Alert or error message when trying to 
send e-mail.  Most times I try again an hour or so later and it goes 
through.  Any idea's?



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E-Mail Deletion Confusion

[HenriK]

Maybe it is because I am well along in years, but I seem to be having 
multiple problems with the 'empty trash' and 'compact folders' commands. 
 I.e., things are being deleted that I don't want to delete and that 
are then very difficult to recover.


Has the way these commands are implemented changed in v.2.32 compared to 
v.2.30?


Is there some buried option that I have inadvertently failed to turn off 
when I reinstalled SM?  (I had wanted to stay with v.2.30 but failed to 
reset the option that automatically downloads upgrades and have ended up 
with v.2.32).


Anyway, any suggestions, advice, or whatever will be greatfully received.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill


I am just asking here on this News Group because so many of you are so 
knowledgeable.

You folks know a lot about the Internet and SeaMonkey.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 31-12-17 07:21:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill


I am just asking here on this News Group because so many of you are so 
knowledgeable.

You folks know a lot about the Internet and SeaMonkey.


Why SM cannot insert-image when working with the smtp of your new isp ?
For what reason didi you say "
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM" did you have 
problem receiving mail or sending mail ?

What is the "error message" ?

This page is useful:
https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird
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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[S Slicer]

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill


I use SeaMonkey's e-mail program to both send and receive to and from 
GMail.  I set it up as an IMAP account.  No problems with pictures or 
anything else.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) 
settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !
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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Paul B. Gallagher]

DoctorBill wrote:


I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to
send an E-Mail.

"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."

I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts.
Somehow, the frontier account is getting mixed up with the gmail
accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Only Frontier (or possibly another Frontier customer) can tell you what 
Frontier's SMTP server is. Ask them for the correct settings.


You should be aware that the incoming (POP/IMAP) server settings are 
distinct and should not be confused with the outgoing (SMTP) settings.


To update your SMTP settings once you have the necessary info, go to 
Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings and scroll to the bottom of the 
dialog on the left, where you'll see "Outgoing Server (SMTP)." Click 
that and you'll see an "Edit" button that will allow you to make 
corrections.


You might also have a look herw:
<https://www.elitereferralsdirect.com/email-server-settings-for-popular-email-providers/>

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[cmcadams]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to
send an E-Mail.

"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."

I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts.
Somehow, the frontier account is getting mixed up with the gmail
accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Only Frontier (or possibly another Frontier customer) can tell you what Frontier's 
SMTP server is. Ask them for the correct settings.


You should be aware that the incoming (POP/IMAP) server settings are distinct and 
should not be confused with the outgoing (SMTP) settings.


To update your SMTP settings once you have the necessary info, go to Edit | Mail & 
Newsgroup Account Settings and scroll to the bottom of the dialog on the left, where 
you'll see "Outgoing Server (SMTP)." Click that and you'll see an "Edit" button that 
will allow you to make corrections.


You might also have a look herw:
<https://www.elitereferralsdirect.com/email-server-settings-for-popular-email-providers/> 





For DoctorBill's reference, which he might like to bookmark:

https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/troubleshooting-email/get-started/mail-server-settings

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Paul in Houston, TX]

DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be embedded in 
the
message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the *client* 
part of
SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed images inline, just setup 
your gmail
account for access with Mail and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to send an 
E-Mail.

"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
incorrectly
configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct 
and try
again."

I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. Somehow, 
the frontier
account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Do you use gmail webmail or POP/IMAP gmail?
Gmail has mail settings different from Frontier:

Incoming Mail (IMAP) Server - Requires SSL. imap.gmail.com. Port: 993. 
Requires SSL:Yes.
Incoming Mail (POP3) Server - requires SSL: pop.gmail.com. Use SSL: Yes. 
Port: 995.
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - Requires TLS or SSL. smtp.gmail.com. Port: 
465 or 587.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) 
settings are correct and try again."


Maybe because that is not Forntier's SMTP server settings...



That if you are talking about Frontier mail, I thought you said *Gmail* 
for Gmail it is:


Server Name: smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
Security: STARTTLS

On gmail.com set for "Let less secure apps use your account"


Don't think SeaMonkey does the OAuth2 like Thunderbird, maybe it does 
now and my settings are just legacy.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 31-12-17 22:54:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown.

THIS IS YOUR FAULT:
Please read carefully this page 
https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird

Where you can find :
Outgoing mail server (// SMTP 
<https://frontier.com/helpcenter/glossary/s>): smtp.frontier.com

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and you 
won't have these problems.



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[Ed Mullen]

On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) 
settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and 
you won't have these problems.




NO !
If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
"smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in the same problem !

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use it 
and not use the Default Frontier server.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 01-01-18 17:32:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


smtp.frontier.com is not good ? It's written in the frontier web page
https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird
can be applied to SM.
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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/1/2018 at 11:51 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use it 
and not use the Default Frontier server.




Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing server - Add

Server name:  smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
username = full gmail email address
Authentication: Normal password
Connection security: STARTTLS


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 11:49 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and 
you won't have these problems.




NO !
If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
"smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in the same problem !



In Thunderbird you don't set anything, it automatically finds the 
correct settings for you. I think.


I just tried creating a test account and for a frontier.com email 
Thunderbird's Account Wizard returned;


imap.mail.yahoo.com, Port 993, SSL/TLS, Normal password
smtp.mail.yahoo.com, Port 465, SSL/TLS, Normal password

I can't complete the setup because I don't have an account with Frontier.

Anyway, I think to send Gmail, he needs to set up a smtp server address 
for it and use that.


Also done automatically using Thunderbird. That server is 
smtp.gmail.com, Port 465 SSL/TLS.


Happy New Year.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 12:02 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 1/1/2018 at 11:51 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like 
SeaMonkey

has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server 
may be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing 
server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail 
accounts. Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use 
it and not use the Default Frontier server.




Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing server - Add

Server name:  smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
username = full gmail email address
Authentication: Normal password
Connection security: STARTTLS



Thanks! I'll try to add my Gmail account to SeaMonkey.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 12:02 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 1/1/2018 at 11:51 AM, WaltS48 created this epitome of digital genius:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like 
SeaMonkey

has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server 
may be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing 
server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail 
accounts. Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use 
it and not use the Default Frontier server.




Edit - Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings - Outgoing server - Add

Server name:  smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
username = full gmail email address
Authentication: Normal password
Connection security: STARTTLS


Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully 
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP 
server to send the email.


SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder. 
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.


Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.

Entering all that info into SeaMonkey by hand is a real PITA, when it is 
just done for you in Thunderbird.


YMMV

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 2:00 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully 
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP 
server to send the email.


SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder. 
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.


Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.

Entering all that info into SeaMonkey by hand is a real PITA, when it 
is just done for you in Thunderbird.




On gmail.com set for "Let less secure apps use your account"



No thanks. I'll use TB.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:

Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully 
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP 
server to send the email.


SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder. 
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.


Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.

Entering all that info into SeaMonkey by hand is a real PITA, when it is 
just done for you in Thunderbird.




On gmail.com set for "Let less secure apps use your account"


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 5:14 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 18:12:

On 1/1/18 11:49 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like 
SeaMonkey

has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with 
the *client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can 
embed images inline, just setup your gmail account for access 
with Mail and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server 
may be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing 
server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail 
accounts. Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you 
and you won't have these problems.




NO !
If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
"smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in the same problem !



In Thunderbird you don't set anything, it automatically finds the 
correct settings for you. I think.


I just tried creating a test account and for a frontier.com email 
Thunderbird's Account Wizard returned;


imap.mail.yahoo.com, Port 993, SSL/TLS, Normal password
smtp.mail.yahoo.com, Port 465, SSL/TLS, Normal password


By what magical way thunderbird is able to know that ?
Anyway what he founded is incorrect, for frontier.com the value ARE NOT:
imap.mail.yahoo.com
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
BUT ARE:
pop3.frontier.com
smtp.frontier.com

Written 
here:https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird

Perhaps, that this info is too old - I don't know.



By using the built-in ISP Database and automatic account configuration.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/isp-database

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/automatic-account-configuration

Like I said I don't have a Frontier account so couldn't take my test any 
further.


You are welcome to try in Thunderbird if you have a Frontier account.



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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP
server to send the email.

SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder.
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.

Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.


Many ISPs won't let you send from a foreign account using their SMTP 
servers, so you have to set the Frontier account to use the Frontier 
server and the Gmail account to use the Gmail server.


Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings

Under the account name, at the bottom of the dialog box, pick the 
appropriate SMTP server under "Outgoing Server (SMTP)."


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/1/18 2:00 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP
server to send the email.

SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder.
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.

Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.

Entering all that info into SeaMonkey by hand is a real PITA, when it
is just done for you in Thunderbird.



On gmail.com set for "Let less secure apps use your account"



No thanks. I'll use TB.


You still need that setting on Gmail's settings or it won't let you 
download mail to your local machine.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[WaltS48]

On 1/1/18 3:21 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/1/18 2:00 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP
server to send the email.

SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder.
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.

Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.

Entering all that info into SeaMonkey by hand is a real PITA, when it
is just done for you in Thunderbird.



On gmail.com set for "Let less secure apps use your account"



No thanks. I'll use TB.


You still need that setting on Gmail's settings or it won't let you 
download mail to your local machine.




Not with version 52.5.2. The OAuth2 Authentication method works just fine.

That was fixed with version 52.1.0.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/52.1.0/releasenotes/

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-01-01 10:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail and 
Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and you 
won't have these problems.


People post in support forums because they don't want to switch 
products. Telling them to use a different product is not helpful and 
off-topic.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 18:12:

On 1/1/18 11:49 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like 
SeaMonkey

has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server 
may be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing 
server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail 
accounts. Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and 
you won't have these problems.




NO !
If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
"smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in the same problem !



In Thunderbird you don't set anything, it automatically finds the 
correct settings for you. I think.


I just tried creating a test account and for a frontier.com email 
Thunderbird's Account Wizard returned;


imap.mail.yahoo.com, Port 993, SSL/TLS, Normal password
smtp.mail.yahoo.com, Port 465, SSL/TLS, Normal password


By what magical way thunderbird is able to know that ?
Anyway what he founded is incorrect, for frontier.com the value ARE NOT:
imap.mail.yahoo.com
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
BUT ARE:
pop3.frontier.com
smtp.frontier.com

Written 
here:https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird

Perhaps, that this info is too old - I don't know.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Okay. A test message from the new Gmail IMAP account was successfully
received at my Comcast POP3 account. I used the default Comcast SMTP
server to send the email.

SeaMonkey is still trying to copy the message to the Sent folder.
Probably Gmail's Sent folder. Cancelled that operation.

Now I'll add the Gmail SMTP server and try another test.

It won't let me send using the Gmail SMTP server.


Many ISPs won't let you send from a foreign account using their SMTP 
servers, so you have to set the Frontier account to use the Frontier 
server and the Gmail account to use the Gmail server.


Edit | Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings

Under the account name, at the bottom of the dialog box, pick the 
appropriate SMTP server under "Outgoing Server (SMTP)."




I'll try YOUR message.I am SO CONFUSED AS TO WHAT TO PUT WHERE !

When I go to "OUTGOING SMTP SERVER (at the bottom left) - I get an
"Add or Edit" list (empty box).
How do I handle THAT !?
One for Frontier is already there.  "DoctorBill - mail.frontier.com"
Do I "ADD" in a new one for gmail ?
What would it be ?  Account Name - mail.gmail.com  Port to 465  SSL/TLS ?

Well THAT did not work !

The Jargon in this thread is IMMENSE !

DoctorBill
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[DoctorBill]

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 18:12:

On 1/1/18 11:49 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like 
SeaMonkey

has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to 
be embedded in the message like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server 
may be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing 
server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail 
accounts. Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and 
you won't have these problems.




NO !
If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
"smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in the same problem !



In Thunderbird you don't set anything, it automatically finds the 
correct settings for you. I think.


I just tried creating a test account and for a frontier.com email 
Thunderbird's Account Wizard returned;


imap.mail.yahoo.com, Port 993, SSL/TLS, Normal password
smtp.mail.yahoo.com, Port 465, SSL/TLS, Normal password


By what magical way thunderbird is able to know that ?
Anyway what he founded is incorrect, for frontier.com the value ARE NOT:
imap.mail.yahoo.com
smtp.mail.yahoo.com
BUT ARE:
pop3.frontier.com
smtp.frontier.com

Written 
here:https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird 


Perhaps, that this info is too old - I don't know.


What you show is for Thunderbird !
I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1

I do not understand this !
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[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill



OMG !

How can ANYONE outside of your group of people know what the Heck you
are talking about !?

You folks argue about what I am supposed to do !
Who do I follow ?
What I see is Thunderbird info - not SeaMonkey Info !
I get instructions that tell me half or less what to do.I am not 
knowledgeable in

all this technical jargon you fellow toss around.

Is SeaMonkey the same as Thunderbird or FireFox ?
Much of this "Information" is about Thunderbird !
Paul asked - do I use "...webmail or POP/IMAP gmail" ?No Idea what 
he means ?


I am sorry to be so ignorant, but if Mozilla wants people to use their 
product, it

must be explained as if everyone is a child and/or a moron.

I have a PhD in Biochemistry from UC Davis and I still cannot follow 
this stuff !

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[Saul]

You could try mail.aol.com. I never had image issues with Gmail tho, I 
have Outlook too and I think inline photos depends on the configuration 
of the email manager, but Seamonkey has IIRC the option to toggle 
showing them

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[Daniel]

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill



OMG !

How can ANYONE outside of your group of people know what the Heck you
are talking about !?

You folks argue about what I am supposed to do !
Who do I follow ?
What I see is Thunderbird info - not SeaMonkey Info !


You might be right here, DoctorBill, so confusion is possible from 
people using different programs  but, just remember, they are all 
trying to do their best for you. ;-)


I get instructions that tell me half or less what to do.I am not 
knowledgeable in all this technical jargon you fellow toss around.


Much like someone with a PhD in BioChemestry might throw some jargon 
around ... in some places. ;-)



Is SeaMonkey the same as Thunderbird or FireFox ?
Much of this "Information" is about Thunderbird !
Paul asked - do I use "...webmail or POP/IMAP gmail" ?    No Idea what 
he means ?


DoctorBill, as I understand it, webmail is when you use a BROWSER to go 
to an e-mail site, gmail.com/yahoomail.com/whatever, to manage your 
e-mail in and out. The mail is stored on their harddrives not yours.


If you have a IMAP mail account, that means you use a e-mail application 
such as Thunderbird or SeaMonkey Mail & News screen to manipulate your 
e-mails on your ISP's server.


If you have a POP3 e-mail account, when you connect to your ISP to get 
your e-mail, the e-mails are downloaded onto your hard drive where they 
live or die!!


I am sorry to be so ignorant, but if Mozilla wants people to use their 
product, it

must be explained as if everyone is a child and/or a moron.


Mozilla doesn't produce SeaMonkey, Mozilla used to produce Thunderbird 
but may or mayn't now. SeaMonkey is produced by the SeaMonkey Consortium 
or some such, a group of volunteers (some of whom may work, in a paid 
capacity, for Mozilla), but they do/did get support from Mozilla.


I have a PhD in Biochemistry from UC Davis and I still cannot follow 
this stuff !


Yeap!! I can relate to that!! I taught Electronics and Computer 
programming (8085/Z80/6809) back in the mid-nineties!! Know bugger all 
about it now-a-days!!


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SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


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[Arnie Goetchius]

DoctorBill wrote:
> Ray_Net wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 18:12:
>>> On 1/1/18 11:49 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>>> WaltS48 wrote on 01-01-18 16:06:
>>>>> On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:
>>>>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>>>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
>>>>>>>> (photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
>>>>>>>> has - just "attachments".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
>>>>>>>> embedded in the message
>>>>>>>> like SM did ? INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
>>>>>>> What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
>>>>>>> *client* part of
>>>>>>> SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed images inline, just 
>>>>>>> setup your gmail
>>>>>>> account for access with Mail and Newsgroups.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
>>>>>> send an E-Mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be 
>>>>>> incorrectly
>>>>>> configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are 
>>>>>> correct and try again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
>>>>>> Somehow, the frontier
>>>>>> account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and you 
>>>>> won't have these
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> NO !
>>>> If using Thunderbird you set "mail.frontier.com" instead of 
>>>> "smtp.frontier.com" you will fall in
>>>> the same problem !
>>>
>>>
>>> In Thunderbird you don't set anything, it automatically finds the correct 
>>> settings for you. I think.
>>>
>>> I just tried creating a test account and for a frontier.com email 
>>> Thunderbird's Account Wizard
>>> returned;
>>>
>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com, Port 993, SSL/TLS, Normal password
>>> smtp.mail.yahoo.com, Port 465, SSL/TLS, Normal password
>>>
>> By what magical way thunderbird is able to know that ?
>> Anyway what he founded is incorrect, for frontier.com the value ARE NOT:
>> imap.mail.yahoo.com
>> smtp.mail.yahoo.com
>> BUT ARE:
>> pop3.frontier.com
>> smtp.frontier.com
>>
>> Written
>> here:https://frontier.com/helpcenter/categories/internet/email/set-up-email-in-other-programs/email-programs/mozilla-thunderbird
>>
>> Perhaps, that this info is too old - I don't know.
>>
> What you show is for Thunderbird !
> I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.1
> 
> I do not understand this !
Use the same values that it shows for Thunderbird in Seamonkey and it will work 
for you.
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[DoctorBill]

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill



OMG !

How can ANYONE outside of your group of people know what the Heck you
are talking about !?

You folks argue about what I am supposed to do !
Who do I follow ?
What I see is Thunderbird info - not SeaMonkey Info !


You might be right here, DoctorBill, so confusion is possible from 
people using different programs  but, just remember, they are all 
trying to do their best for you. ;-)


I get instructions that tell me half or less what to do.I am not 
knowledgeable in all this technical jargon you fellow toss around.


Much like someone with a PhD in BioChemestry might throw some jargon 
around ... in some places. ;-)



Is SeaMonkey the same as Thunderbird or FireFox ?
Much of this "Information" is about Thunderbird !
Paul asked - do I use "...webmail or POP/IMAP gmail" ?    No Idea what 
he means ?


DoctorBill, as I understand it, webmail is when you use a BROWSER to go 
to an e-mail site, gmail.com/yahoomail.com/whatever, to manage your 
e-mail in and out. The mail is stored on their harddrives not yours.


If you have a IMAP mail account, that means you use a e-mail application 
such as Thunderbird or SeaMonkey Mail & News screen to manipulate your 
e-mails on your ISP's server.


If you have a POP3 e-mail account, when you connect to your ISP to get 
your e-mail, the e-mails are downloaded onto your hard drive where they 
live or die!!


I am sorry to be so ignorant, but if Mozilla wants people to use their 
product, it

must be explained as if everyone is a child and/or a moron.


Mozilla doesn't produce SeaMonkey, Mozilla used to produce Thunderbird 
but may or mayn't now. SeaMonkey is produced by the SeaMonkey Consortium 
or some such, a group of volunteers (some of whom may work, in a paid 
capacity, for Mozilla), but they do/did get support from Mozilla.


I have a PhD in Biochemistry from UC Davis and I still cannot follow 
this stuff !


Yeap!! I can relate to that!! I taught Electronics and Computer 
programming (8085/Z80/6809) back in the mid-nineties!! Know bugger all 
about it now-a-days!!




Thank you Daniel for that message !

I guess what I using with SeaMonkey is pop3 mail - right ?

My ISP is Frontier, then.right ?

The Frontier site said that it uses some AOL type of coding (?) which is 
special to
Frontier, but even that is going to be dumped in 2018all of which is 
Martian to me.


I understand about this "outgoing" business, but do not understand HOW 
to or WHAT to

put WHERE !

Under "Outgoing Server (smtp) Settings", it says I can add, edit, select 
(doesn't say HOW)
what I can use.   I also have two gmail accounts, the one Frontier 
account and this News Group.
If I want to use one of the Gmail accounts to send a message, the error 
says the mail.Frontier.com smtp setting is wrong.  Is that because it is 
the default ?

I tried setting the gmail outgoing as default, but that also gives an error.

Tried one of the gmail outgoing settings given by someone here, but got 
the same error

message.

There are so many people on this thread, some arguing, some telling me I 
should do what

THEY say, some implying I am dumb..this is like a Chinese Fire Drill !

I think perhaps it is too far above my head to try anymore.  All I 
wanted to do is use the

SeaMonkey E-Mail stuff like before with my old ISP (which worked well).
Ever since Frontier came online, it has been chaos.


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[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 02-01-18 15:44:

Daniel wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works 
fine.


BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM. Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill



OMG !

How can ANYONE outside of your group of people know what the Heck you
are talking about !?

You folks argue about what I am supposed to do !
Who do I follow ?
What I see is Thunderbird info - not SeaMonkey Info !


You might be right here, DoctorBill, so confusion is possible from 
people using different programs  but, just remember, they are all 
trying to do their best for you. ;-)


I get instructions that tell me half or less what to do.I am not 
knowledgeable in all this technical jargon you fellow toss around.


Much like someone with a PhD in BioChemestry might throw some jargon 
around ... in some places. ;-)



Is SeaMonkey the same as Thunderbird or FireFox ?
Much of this "Information" is about Thunderbird !
Paul asked - do I use "...webmail or POP/IMAP gmail" ?    No Idea 
what he means ?


DoctorBill, as I understand it, webmail is when you use a BROWSER to 
go to an e-mail site, gmail.com/yahoomail.com/whatever, to manage 
your e-mail in and out. The mail is stored on their harddrives not 
yours.


If you have a IMAP mail account, that means you use a e-mail 
application such as Thunderbird or SeaMonkey Mail & News screen to 
manipulate your e-mails on your ISP's server.


If you have a POP3 e-mail account, when you connect to your ISP to 
get your e-mail, the e-mails are downloaded onto your hard drive 
where they live or die!!


I am sorry to be so ignorant, but if Mozilla wants people to use 
their product, it

must be explained as if everyone is a child and/or a moron.


Mozilla doesn't produce SeaMonkey, Mozilla used to produce 
Thunderbird but may or mayn't now. SeaMonkey is produced by the 
SeaMonkey Consortium or some such, a group of volunteers (some of 
whom may work, in a paid capacity, for Mozilla), but they do/did get 
support from Mozilla.


I have a PhD in Biochemistry from UC Davis and I still cannot follow 
this stuff !


Yeap!! I can relate to that!! I taught Electronics and Computer 
programming (8085/Z80/6809) back in the mid-nineties!! Know bugger 
all about it now-a-days!!




Thank you Daniel for that message !

I guess what I using with SeaMonkey is pop3 mail - right ?

My ISP is Frontier, then.right ?

The Frontier site said that it uses some AOL type of coding (?) which 
is special to
Frontier, but even that is going to be dumped in 2018all of which 
is Martian to me.


I understand about this "outgoing" business, but do not understand HOW 
to or WHAT to

put WHERE !

Under "Outgoing Server (smtp) Settings", it says I can add, edit, 
select (doesn't say HOW)
what I can use.   I also have two gmail accounts, the one Frontier 
account and this News Group.
If I want to use one of the Gmail accounts to send a message, the 
error says the mail.Frontier.com smtp setting is wrong.  Is that 
because it is the default ?
I tried setting the gmail outgoing as default, but that also gives an 
error.


Tried one of the gmail outgoing settings given by someone here, but 
got the same error

message.

There are so many people on this thread, some arguing, some telling me 
I should do what
THEY say, some implying I am dumb..this is like a Chinese Fire 
Drill !


I think perhaps it is too far above my head to try anymore.  All I 
wanted to do is use the

SeaMonkey E-Mail stuff like before with my old ISP (which worked well).
Ever since Frontier came online, it has been chaos.


To be simple You must create a mail account to access the frontiet.com 
mailbox with the following:

FOR SEAMONKEY:
Add account with:
- Your name
- Your Frontier username (your email address)
- Your Frontier password
THEN
Position the Incoming mail server:(POP3)  pop3.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 995
Position the Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 465





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[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:


When I go to "OUTGOING SMTP SERVER (at the bottom left) - I get an
"Add or Edit" list (empty box).
How do I handle THAT !?
One for Frontier is already there.  "DoctorBill - mail.frontier.com"
Do I "ADD" in a new one for gmail ?
What would it be ?  Account Name - mail.gmail.com  Port to 465  SSL/TLS ?

Well THAT did not work !

The Jargon in this thread is IMMENSE !



1) Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings

2) Scroll down in left panel to Outgoing Server (SMTP)

3) Click the Add... button

4) In fields enter:
Description: GMail
Server Name: smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
Connection Security: STARTTLS
Authentication method: Password transmitted insecurely *
User Name: 
* This is really Normal Password, because of STARTTLS encrypted 
communication to server is already established before password is sent. 
(This is legacy way which I *know* works because I am currently using 
it, but I noticed there is now option for OAuth2. I will convert my to 
that option and update results)


5) Click OK

6) Back in  Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings window in left pane click 
on your GMail account and in right hand panel under Outgoing Server 
(SMTP) droplist select GMail server just defined above.


7) Click OK

8) In your gmail account compose new email and try to send it, should 
get password prompt to set and save password and now you should be able 
to send email from SeaMonkey via gmail.


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[Ed Mullen]

On 12/31/2017 at 1:19 AM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital genius:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill


If you set up your Gmail account in SeaMonkey you CAN embed/insert 
images just like any other email account.  You've been given the info on 
how to set up the account elsewhere in this thread.


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[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:


I guess what I using with SeaMonkey is pop3 mail - right ?


Maybe. SeaMonkey can do both pop3 and imap.

POP3 is the legacy email method that works like the real mail. Mail 
comes to your postoffice (your mail server) and when you check your mail 
it is delivered "physically" to your mailbox (Inbox). With email that 
means on your own computer.


IMAP is different, it is a little like webmail. When you check your mail 
it stays on your mail providers server server and you only get sent a 
temporary copy of the message that is in your inbox on the remote 
server. There is not really a postoffice analogy, but would be like to 
get you mail you would call your postmaster and they would read to you 
any mail that you received but but the actual letter would remain stored 
at the postoffice.




My ISP is Frontier, then.right ?


Okay, but in SeaMonkey you can have more than just your ISP's email 
accounts.  The other thing to remember is email typically uses two 
different protocols and servers for the total email exchange; one for 
outgoing and one for incoming.




The Frontier site said that it uses some AOL type of coding (?) which is 
special to
Frontier, but even that is going to be dumped in 2018all of which is 
Martian to me.


I understand about this "outgoing" business, but do not understand HOW 
to or WHAT to

put WHERE !

Under "Outgoing Server (smtp) Settings", it says I can add, edit, select 
(doesn't say HOW)
what I can use.   I also have two gmail accounts, the one Frontier 
account and this News Group.
If I want to use one of the Gmail accounts to send a message, the error 
says the mail.Frontier.com smtp setting is wrong.  Is that because it is 
the default ?
I tried setting the gmail outgoing as default, but that also gives an 
error.


A lot of ISP are outsources or dropping mailservers...Verizon just 
dropped theirs. I think what is confusing is that as I said above the 
email exchange thing uses two different services for outgoing and 
incoming email. Where people get tripped up is that they *can* setup 
multiple *incoming* email from different companies and for *outgoing* 
use only one, the default SMTP server which was the first they set up 
and usually their ISP. But sometimes, dare I say frequently this can 
cause issues.


So you *could* get gmail from gmail but send outgoing gmail using your 
Frontier.com smtp server, but Frontier may not "like" that and give you 
problems. Better to set to gmail to use gmail.com for your SMTP server. 
I have given you step by step instructions on how to do this elsewhere 
in the thread. Follow it and I think it will fix your issue.




Tried one of the gmail outgoing settings given by someone here, but got 
the same error

message.

There are so many people on this thread, some arguing, some telling me I 
should do what

THEY say, some implying I am dumb..this is like a Chinese Fire Drill !

I think perhaps it is too far above my head to try anymore.  All I 
wanted to do is use the

SeaMonkey E-Mail stuff like before with my old ISP (which worked well).
Ever since Frontier came online, it has been chaos.



It is why when I started switching ISP I did not bother with their 
email, I switch to gmail for my personal email keeping my email 
independent from my ISP.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky.  Supposed 
to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures (photo 
files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone recommend 
others ?


DoctorBill


So many have said so much that I do not know WHO to reply to !

So - let's try THIS:

I did what someone told me to do - smtp.gmail.com , Port 587, username full,
normal password, STARTTLS...
It apparently work and go thru to gmail, but gmail BLOCKED it !
Here is what is on the gmail e-mail incoming message: ( xxx'ed info out !)

Review blocked sign-in attempt  

Hi XX,
Google just blocked someone from signing into your Google Account
xyzwtmlp...@gmail.com
from an app that may put your account at risk.
Less secure app
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:38 AM (PT)
City, USA*
Don't recognize this activity?
If you didn't recently receive an error while trying to access a Google 
service, like Gmail, from a non-Google application, someone may have 
your password.


SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT

So I checked on allow app (less secure).

DoctorBill


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 03-01-18 23:10:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill


So many have said so much that I do not know WHO to reply to !

So - let's try THIS:

I did what someone told me to do - smtp.gmail.com , Port 587, username 
full,

normal password, STARTTLS...
It apparently work and go thru to gmail, but gmail BLOCKED it !
Here is what is on the gmail e-mail incoming message: ( xxx'ed info 
out !)


Review blocked sign-in attempt

Hi XX,
Google just blocked someone from signing into your Google Account
xyzwtmlp...@gmail.com
from an app that may put your account at risk.
Less secure app
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:38 AM (PT)
City, USA*
Don't recognize this activity?
If you didn't recently receive an error while trying to access a 
Google service, like Gmail, from a non-Google application, someone may 
have your password.


SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT

So I checked on allow app (less secure).

DoctorBill



Why did you not try this ?

Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 465
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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 03-01-18 23:10:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works fine.

BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM.  Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill


So many have said so much that I do not know WHO to reply to !

So - let's try THIS:

I did what someone told me to do - smtp.gmail.com , Port 587, username 
full,

normal password, STARTTLS...
It apparently work and go thru to gmail, but gmail BLOCKED it !
Here is what is on the gmail e-mail incoming message: ( xxx'ed info 
out !)


Review blocked sign-in attempt

Hi XX,
Google just blocked someone from signing into your Google Account
xyzwtmlp...@gmail.com
from an app that may put your account at risk.
Less secure app
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:38 AM (PT)
City, USA*
Don't recognize this activity?
If you didn't recently receive an error while trying to access a 
Google service, like Gmail, from a non-Google application, someone may 
have your password.


SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT

So I checked on allow app (less secure).

DoctorBill



Why did you not try this ?

Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 465


I just did !

Holy Moley - It works !

Thank you profusely !

THAT is in the Frontier "outgoing Mail Server" setting.

Does that then apply to ALL my accounts since they have to go thru the
Frontier system ?

PS- this has been THE most confusing News Group Message that I EVER
did !

DoctorBill
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Re: E-Mail Providers

[cyberzen]

DoctorBill a écrit :

"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may be
incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server (SMTP)
settings are correct and try again."


of course it does not know

Incoming mail  server ( POP3): pop3.frontier.com
Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
Your Frontier username (your email address)
Your Frontier password
Be sure to choose a secure connection.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Ray_Net]

DoctorBill wrote on 04-01-18 00:58:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 03-01-18 23:10:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had to drop my ISP - went downhill.

Now I have an ISP thru my Telephone Company at 6 Mbps and it works 
fine.


BUT - their E-Mail is pretty much garbage.    Frontier.com

My old ISP had an E-Mail service that worked well with my SeaMonkey.
The new "Frontier" service doesn't work well with SM. Clunky. 
Supposed to get

worse in 2018, Frontier says !

I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures 
(photo files) very
well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey has - just 
"attachments".


Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in

the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.

I Googled E-Mail
www.technorms.com/14035/10-free-email-service-providers
and got a list.

Are any of those good for what I need ?  If not, can someone 
recommend others ?


DoctorBill


So many have said so much that I do not know WHO to reply to !

So - let's try THIS:

I did what someone told me to do - smtp.gmail.com , Port 587, 
username full,

normal password, STARTTLS...
It apparently work and go thru to gmail, but gmail BLOCKED it !
Here is what is on the gmail e-mail incoming message: ( xxx'ed info 
out !)


Review blocked sign-in attempt

Hi XX,
Google just blocked someone from signing into your Google Account
xyzwtmlp...@gmail.com
from an app that may put your account at risk.
Less secure app
Tuesday, January 2, 2018 9:38 AM (PT)
City, USA*
Don't recognize this activity?
If you didn't recently receive an error while trying to access a 
Google service, like Gmail, from a non-Google application, someone 
may have your password.


SECURE YOUR ACCOUNT

So I checked on allow app (less secure).

DoctorBill



Why did you not try this ?

Outgoing mail server ( SMTP): smtp.frontier.com
with SSL and Port 465


I just did !

Holy Moley - It works !

Thank you profusely !

THAT is in the Frontier "outgoing Mail Server" setting.

Does that then apply to ALL my accounts since they have to go thru the
Frontier system ?


Normally your accounts may use the same SMTP server.
You will never encounter errors, because, you are connected at your ISP 
and you use his SMTP server.
Most providers did not accept that you use their SMTP server IF you are 
NOT connected to them.


Example: My isp is scarlet.be when I am connected with scarlet.be i can 
send a mail (with the SM mail part) using smtp.scarlet.be
When I am in the house of my son - his isp is voo.be - when I try 
sending a mail (with the SM mail part) using smtp.scarlet.be I fall in 
error.

I am sure, that If I configure a voo smtp server voo would accept my mail.
I did not configure that, so to be able to send a mail at my son's house 
I go with my browser on the webmail page of scarlet.be (this is not the 
mail part of SM)


The ingoing servers pop3 or imap are different because they acces your 
mailboxes.

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 
genius:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE   etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


  I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try 
to send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !


Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use it 
and not use the Default Frontier server.



Right !

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Re: E-Mail Providers

[DoctorBill]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2018-01-01 10:06 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 12/31/17 4:54 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


I have several gmail accounts, but gmail does not handle Pictures
(photo files) very well.  There is no "In Line Photos" like SeaMonkey
has - just "attachments".

Can anyone recommend a good E-Mail service that allows photos to be 
embedded in the message like SM did ?  INSERT |  IMAGE etc.
What are you talking about? You know you can access gmail with the 
*client* part of SeaMonkey. I have a gmail account and I can embed 
images inline, just setup your gmail account for access with Mail 
and Newsgroups.


 I have tried to do this, but run into an error message when I try to 
send an E-Mail.


"Outgoing server (SMTP) mail.frontier.com is unknown. The server may 
be incorrectly configured. Please verify that your Outgoing server 
(SMTP) settings are correct and try again."


I get this when I try to send e-mail from any of the gmail accounts. 
Somehow, the frontier

account is getting mixed up with the gmail accounts - ? ? ? ? ? ?

I don't know enough on how to address this "error" !



Use Thunderbird. It automatically sets up email accounts for you and 
you won't have these problems.


People post in support forums because they don't want to switch 
products. Telling them to use a different product is not helpful and 
off-topic.



Right !
Like telling someone with questions about how our government works to 
move to Afghanistan.


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Re: E-Mail Providers

[Jonathan N. Little]

DoctorBill wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/1/18 11:32 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 12/31/2017 at 4:54 PM, DoctorBill created this epitome of digital 




Use Gmail's SMTP server:  smtp.gmail.com


First he has to add it to SeaMonkey.

Could you post the steps to achieve that, have the Gmail account use 
it and not use the Default Frontier server.



Right !



I have more than once in this thread!!!

1) Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings

2) Scroll down in left panel to Outgoing Server (SMTP)

3) Click the Add... button

4) In fields enter:
Description: GMail
Server Name: smtp.gmail.com
Port: 587
Connection Security: STARTTLS
Authentication method: Password transmitted insecurely *
User Name: 
* This is really Normal Password, because of STARTTLS encrypted 
communication to server is already established before password is sent. 
(This is legacy way which I *know* works because I am currently using 
it, but I noticed there is now option for OAuth2. I will convert my to 
that option and update results)


5) Click OK

6) Back in  Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings window in left pane click 
on your GMail account and in right hand panel under Outgoing Server 
(SMTP) droplist select GMail server just defined above.


7) Click OK

8) In your gmail account compose new email and try to send it, should 
get password prompt to set and save password and now you should be able 
to send email from SeaMonkey via gmail.


Now if you ant to use gmail's OAuth2

1) In the Outgoing Server (SMTP) section select the GMail server 
previously defined.


2) Click the Edit button

3) Change Authentication method: from Password transmitted insecurely to 
OAuth2


4) Click OK and then OK again to close setting dialogs

5) Compose a new test email on your gmail account to set the new 
security protocol


6) When you click sent you will get a popup window stating from Google 
that "Thunderbird" is trying to access your account. Put your gmail 
address in the box and click Next


7) You will be prompted for your gmail password enter that and click Next

8) You will be asked to allow "Thunderbird" access to your account so 
click Allow and that is it.


Now you will *send* Gmail using Gmail's SMTP server and not Frontier

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Missing E-Mail Images

[Cecil Bankston]

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their 
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the 
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I 
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your 
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page: 
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406&id=46308dfd2a&e=99f36663cc
The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do 
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any 
scripts on that page.


Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these 
messages?

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E-mail folders mapping

[Rubens]

Hello,


I have just found that GMail is throwing some legitimate e-mails I receive
to their Spam folder.

Is there a way to map that folder to a local one in Seamonkey, using the
POP3 protocol, so I can check that folder directly from Seamonkey´s
e-mail client ?


Thanks in advance,


Rubens
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E-Mail adress suggestions

[Ray_Net]

I did not know if i am dreaming or not, but i have the impression that:
with SM1.1.18 the mail adress suggestions list when begining to type an 
adress was a list beginning with/sorted by "last recently used".

Now with SM 2.0.2 it looks like a sort of a strange alphabetic order.

Is a bug already filled ?
Am i wrong ?
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Advanced E-mail Searching

[hawker]

Looking at the Thunderbird 3.x screen shots it looks like they have 
added some advanced e-mail searching capabilities to it.


I don't see anything like that yet in SM2.x. Are there plans to pull 
those search capabilities into a future version of SM?  When?
Are there good e-mail search enhancements plug ins out for SM 2.x that I 
should look at?


One of the biggest things keeping my from finally ditching Eudora as my 
primary e-mail source for SM is the amazing search capabilities in 
Eudora verses the lacking search abilities in SM and Thunderbird 2.x (I 
have no experience with Thunderbird 3.x).   I was holding out for Eudora 
8.x but three years into the project they are still don't have a 1.0 
release. Given this I'm wondering if Seamonkey will have any relief in 
sight.

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e-mail send performance

[Alex Strickland]

Hi

I am using SM 2.04 for e-mail on Vista. When I send largish e-mails (say 
3Mb) the CPU usage jumps to close to 100% and really slows down my 
machine (and my ADSL is quite slow, so the machine is slow for a while). 
I am using ESET AV but I think it is innocent, the 100% is pretty much 
split between SM and the system.


Known issue? Any remedy?

Thanks
Alex
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E-mail folder lost

[Cedar]

My (newly acquired) antivirus found a virus in one of my folders where I 
keep the stuff that I want to keep.  It then deleted the entire folder! 
 Ouch!  The filename in the virus vault is named 0021_body.html:  what 
does this 0021 mean?  Is that a number that defines which e-mail was 
infected?  Is there a way to view this e-mail, or preferably this entire 
folder, would that filename mean that it's the 21st e-mail in the 
folder...?  Would there maybe be a way to delete just the offending 
e-mail and restore the others, at least?
Is this normal behaviour for an antivirus, I mean to delete the entire 
folder?  If that's the case, Wow!  what if it had been found in my main 
folder!  Ouch!

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intermittent returned e-mail

[Walter]

Some of my correspondents are getting returned e-mail for the following 
reason:;


 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -

(reason: 550 Too many nonmail commands)

additional information:

Final-Recipient: RFC822; walt.m...@allegiance.tv
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Remote-MTA: DNS; inbound2.broadbandsupport.net
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Too many nonmail commands
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 10:30:45 -0400 (EDT)


They can re-send the mail and it will usually be delivered. This problem 
 is intermittent and follows no pattern that I can see.


Walter.
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Re: e-mail duplicates

[Latoya30OLSEN]

freelance writer


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Re: e-mail duplicates

[AvisJacobs]

freelance writer


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Re: e-mail duplicates

[Ray_Net]

AvisJacobs wrote:

freelance writer




I agree that this post is a "spam".
But i don't understand it. (no url - no mailadress - nothing useful)
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Re: e-mail duplicates

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Ray_Net wrote:

AvisJacobs wrote:

freelance writer


I agree that this post is a "spam".
But i don't understand it. (no url - no mailadress - nothing useful)


Nobody ever said spammers were smart.  ;-)

First clue, it was a reply (like all this recent crap) from the 
web-based mozilla-xp.com 'forum', and second, it was a direct reply to a 
post from *2007*.


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Re: Recover E-Mail?

[BIll Spikowski]

schwe...@optonline.net wrote:
> 
> And OT -- how do I get the "Show Desktop" on the QL bar as well? (It was
> there when 2.5 opened, but disappeared somewhere along the way, no doubt
> unskilled operator error!)
> 
> Thank you for any SM advice you can give me, and if you could also discuss
> the "Show Desktop" question I would be extra appreciative.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190355

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Re: Recover E-Mail?

[schwenkl]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

schwe...@optonline.net wrote:


And OT -- how do I get the "Show Desktop" on the QL bar as well? (It was
there when 2.5 opened, but disappeared somewhere along the way, no doubt
unskilled operator error!)

Thank you for any SM advice you can give me, and if you could also discuss
the "Show Desktop" question I would be extra appreciative.



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190355

Thank you! So simple. I'd looked for something on this, but somehow 
never found it.

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Re: Recover E-Mail?

[BIll Spikowski]

schwe...@optonline.net wrote:
> BIll Spikowski wrote:
>> schwe...@optonline.net wrote:
>>>
>>> And OT -- how do I get the "Show Desktop" on the QL bar as well? (It was
>>> there when 2.5 opened, but disappeared somewhere along the way, no doubt
>>> unskilled operator error!)
>>>
>>> Thank you for any SM advice you can give me, and if you could also discuss
>>> the "Show Desktop" question I would be extra appreciative.
>>
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/190355
>>
> Thank you! So simple. I'd looked for something on this, but somehow never
> found it.

I've been there too!
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E-Mail Account Password

[Cecil Bankston]

I have Seamonkey Mail set for POP download from my ISP and from GMail. 
Recently, each time I start Mail I have to enter my GMail password; and 
there is no option in the password dialog to have SM remember the 
password as it previously had.  How can I get SM to enter the password 
automatically?


C. Bankston
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Re: Missing E-Mail

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72.
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2.
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks, address
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new mail
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had before
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.

My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?

One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry



Larry, have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you have more than one 
profile available?? If so, select the other one and see if it contains 
your missing mail.


Report back.

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Re: Missing E-Mail

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72.
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2.
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks, address
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new mail
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had before
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.

My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?

One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry



Larry, have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you have more than one
profile available?? If so, select the other one and see if it contains
your missing mail.

Report back.


Sadly, only one profile. Thank you for the thought, however.
Hmmm . . . Wonder if bringing in the backup copy of the oprifile would 
work? (Need to rename the one that's there now, or give the "new" one a 
different name?)


Larry
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Re: Missing E-Mail

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72.
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2.
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks, address
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new mail
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had before
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.

My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?

One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry



Larry, have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you have more than one
profile available?? If so, select the other one and see if it contains
your missing mail.

Report back.


Sadly, only one profile. Thank you for the thought, however.
Hmmm . . . Wonder if bringing in the backup copy of the oprifile would
work? (Need to rename the one that's there now, or give the "new" one a
different name?)

Larry


O.K., Larry, next step, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail & 
Newsgroup Account Settings, select "Server Settings" on your mail 
account. Note the location of your Local directory on the bottom of that 
screen.


Completely close  SeaMonkey.

You're using Windows so open your file manager and find the location of 
your e-mail account. You have have Windows set to not display more than 
two or three levels down. You need to set Windows to display all folders 
and files.


Do a Windows "Find Folders and Files" looking for "inbox" (without the 
quotes). Hopefully, the search will find more than one inbox without the 
suffix, apart from the location you noted above.


In the Windows file manager, locate these other inbox's, change their 
names to inbox2, inbox3, etc, and move them into the same location as 
your inbox location above.


Now, re-start SeaMonkey and, hopefully, you will find more than one 
inbox in your mail profile, with the others containing your lost mail.


Report back.

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Re: Missing E-Mail

[Larry S.]

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72.
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2.
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks, address
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new
mail
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had before
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.

My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?

One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry



Larry, have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you have more than one
profile available?? If so, select the other one and see if it contains
your missing mail.

Report back.


Sadly, only one profile. Thank you for the thought, however.
Hmmm . . . Wonder if bringing in the backup copy of the oprifile would
work? (Need to rename the one that's there now, or give the "new" one a
different name?)

Larry


O.K., Larry, next step, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail &
Newsgroup Account Settings, select "Server Settings" on your mail
account. Note the location of your Local directory on the bottom of that
screen.

Completely close SeaMonkey.

You're using Windows so open your file manager and find the location of
your e-mail account. You have have Windows set to not display more than
two or three levels down. You need to set Windows to display all folders
and files.

Do a Windows "Find Folders and Files" looking for "inbox" (without the
quotes). Hopefully, the search will find more than one inbox without the
suffix, apart from the location you noted above.

In the Windows file manager, locate these other inbox's, change their
names to inbox2, inbox3, etc, and move them into the same location as
your inbox location above.

Now, re-start SeaMonkey and, hopefully, you will find more than one
inbox in your mail profile, with the others containing your lost mail.

Report back.

Thank you for saving me!  This mostly worked (see below), but started 
with a surprise. The search found 25 (yes, 25!) files/folders with 
"inbox" in their name. Ten were .jpgs (inbox 1,2,etc.), 2 were in the 
recycle bin, 5 were .msfs, 4 were various other file types, and one was 
an empty folder. Sorted it out, and followed your advice. All well with 
mail, except for "Archives" which didn't transfer. Got that sorted out 
with some fiddling around in Windows Explorer.


So, finally back in the Mail business! Forgot to mention that News also 
had to be started anew, but no problem there since the messages were on 
the server (which I don't do with Mail, but probably should). Only 
glitch was that all the Filters were gone. Fixed with busy work.


Thank you again!

Larry
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Re: Missing E-Mail

[Daniel]

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

For reasons too long to go into here, I installed SM 2.7.1 over 2.72.
After a series of problems and actions, I wound up back on 2.7.2.
However, SM seemed like it couldn't find my profile, or at least parts
of it. I fixed my home page through preferences, and bookmarks,
address
book, and the like are available, but SM insisted that I set up new
mail
and news accounts. I did so, but haven't seen the messages I had
before
so am wondering how to get the rest of my mail back.

My profile is still where it should be in the file structure, but I
can't get the mail. It doesn't show up in the mail pane, although it's
there in the file in the profile. How can I recover the information?

One unrelated question (less important)--when I open a tab, it goes
behind the existing tab, thus requiring another click to open it. That
didn't happen before. What should I do to fix this?

All help and suggestions greatly appreciated.

Larry



Larry, have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles. Do you have more than one
profile available?? If so, select the other one and see if it contains
your missing mail.

Report back.


Sadly, only one profile. Thank you for the thought, however.
Hmmm . . . Wonder if bringing in the backup copy of the oprifile would
work? (Need to rename the one that's there now, or give the "new" one a
different name?)

Larry


O.K., Larry, next step, in SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit->Mail &
Newsgroup Account Settings, select "Server Settings" on your mail
account. Note the location of your Local directory on the bottom of that
screen.

Completely close SeaMonkey.

You're using Windows so open your file manager and find the location of
your e-mail account. You have have Windows set to not display more than
two or three levels down. You need to set Windows to display all folders
and files.

Do a Windows "Find Folders and Files" looking for "inbox" (without the
quotes). Hopefully, the search will find more than one inbox without the
suffix, apart from the location you noted above.

In the Windows file manager, locate these other inbox's, change their
names to inbox2, inbox3, etc, and move them into the same location as
your inbox location above.

Now, re-start SeaMonkey and, hopefully, you will find more than one
inbox in your mail profile, with the others containing your lost mail.

Report back.


Thank you for saving me! This mostly worked (see below), but started
with a surprise. The search found 25 (yes, 25!) files/folders with
"inbox" in their name. Ten were .jpgs (inbox 1,2,etc.), 2 were in the
recycle bin, 5 were .msfs, 4 were various other file types, and one was
an empty folder. Sorted it out, and followed your advice. All well with
mail, except for "Archives" which didn't transfer. Got that sorted out
with some fiddling around in Windows Explorer.

So, finally back in the Mail business! Forgot to mention that News also
had to be started anew, but no problem there since the messages were on
the server (which I don't do with Mail, but probably should). Only
glitch was that all the Filters were gone. Fixed with busy work.

Thank you again!

Larry


Hey, we did it, together. Yip-ee!!

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E-mail with att

[question]

I did not use About: config


 I Clicked  Compose

 Then Clicked in the Body Are
Clicked on FORMAT ( Format is not Accessable till you click on the Body )
Choose page color and Background

 Then Advance  Edit

Click on BG Color

Now Change #FFto #ff
Click Ok

Now Send a Test message to yourself


It goes through




Now if You Go Back to the Above color Settings you will see that it has 
Reverted Back to  #FF


But If you send a NEW e-mail It Goes Through /


I even rebooted My Computer Then sent a New Email in Html And it Goes 
Through even tho it has revered back to  The #FF



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Can't send e-mail

[Mark Smith]

I am running Windows 7 with SeaMonkey 2.8. I can browse the web and
receive e-mail. When I try to send e-mail, SeaMonkey tells me the
message has been sent. The message never gets to its address. I tried
re-installing SeaMonkey 2.7.2 and then 2.7  I still cannot send e-
mail.

Mark Smith
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Re: E-Mail problem

[Jens Hatlak]

Jim P wrote:

I have Win 7, SM 2.9. In the past week I have had a problem with
messages in that I can read them when I receive them. Then when I go
back to them they have reverted to the coding for the message.


SM 2.9 is still in beta. There was a problem with SM 2.9b2 (maybe also 
2.9b1, didn't check) where compacting messages (automatically or 
manually) led to message corruption. This issue, which I was hit by 
myself, has been fixed in SM 2.9b3 which has just been released. Of 
course it's very unfortunate that an issue as serious as this one made 
it to the Beta channel, but at least it was caught before release.


According to the below comment (which is from one of the core MailNews 
developers), the only way to fix it is to repair affected folders 
manually, which I don't recommend to average users since it can lead to 
even more corruption, so I won't explain it further here (however, 
that's what I'll do to repair my folders). Your only other options are 
accessing your backups (if you have some) or deleting faulty messages.



(Please don't make that bug even longer; if you have further questions, 
ask them here please.)


HTH

Jens

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Re: E-Mail problem

[Jim P]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Jim P wrote:

I have Win 7, SM 2.9. In the past week I have had a problem with
messages in that I can read them when I receive them. Then when I go
back to them they have reverted to the coding for the message.


SM 2.9 is still in beta. There was a problem with SM 2.9b2 (maybe also
2.9b1, didn't check) where compacting messages (automatically or
manually) led to message corruption. This issue, which I was hit by
myself, has been fixed in SM 2.9b3 which has just been released. Of
course it's very unfortunate that an issue as serious as this one made
it to the Beta channel, but at least it was caught before release.

According to the below comment (which is from one of the core MailNews
developers), the only way to fix it is to repair affected folders
manually, which I don't recommend to average users since it can lead to
even more corruption, so I won't explain it further here (however,
that's what I'll do to repair my folders). Your only other options are
accessing your backups (if you have some) or deleting faulty messages.


(Please don't make that bug even longer; if you have further questions,
ask them here please.)

HTH

Jens

Thanks for the info.  I thought it might have been the problem, it's the 
first I've had with SM in a long, long time.  I've been a user since the 
Netscape days.  I've already updated to the last release SM 2.9b3. Do I 
need to do anything more, like clean out the Inbox?

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Problem with e-mail

[George & Pat Achilles]

To Whom It May Concern,

I am presently having a problem retrieving my e-mail from web mail. My ISP is 
earthlink and I have checked with them and they said it was related to 
Seamonkey program.  The problem is that whenever I want to get the e-mail from 
web mail into my regular e-mail I receive a message that the inbox is full 
which is definately incorrect because I have deleted 30% of my e-mails.  \

Could you possibly assist me in correcting this problem.

Thank you for any assistance that you may be able to provide.

Regards

George and Pat Achilles

e-mail georgen...@earthlink.net
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Re: E-mail problem

[WLS]

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles



When was the last time you compacted your Inbox? Right click and then 
select Compact This Folder.


If that doesn't solve the problem try repairing the folder. Right click, 
select properties, the click Repair Folder.


If that doesn't work try a new profile.

Are you sure it isn't your webmail inbox that is full? When was the last 
time you cleared it out? Do you have settings for it to delete messages 
after a certain period of time?


Regards

WLS

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Re: E-mail problem

[Ray_Net]

WLS wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles



When was the last time you compacted your Inbox? Right click and then
select Compact This Folder.

If that doesn't solve the problem try repairing the folder. Right click,
select properties, the click Repair Folder.

If that doesn't work try a new profile.

Are you sure it isn't your webmail inbox that is full? When was the last
time you cleared it out? Do you have settings for it to delete messages
after a certain period of time?

Regards

WLS


You wrote:Right click,
> select properties, the click Repair Folder.


I did not have this choice. perhaps you think about "Rebuild Summary File" ?
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Re: E-mail problem

[WLS]

Ray_Net wrote:

WLS wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles



When was the last time you compacted your Inbox? Right click and then
select Compact This Folder.

If that doesn't solve the problem try repairing the folder. Right click,
select properties, the click Repair Folder.

If that doesn't work try a new profile.

Are you sure it isn't your webmail inbox that is full? When was the last
time you cleared it out? Do you have settings for it to delete messages
after a certain period of time?

Regards

WLS


You wrote:Right click,
 > select properties, the click Repair Folder.


I did not have this choice. perhaps you think about "Rebuild Summary
File" ?


Rebuild Summary File in SM 2.0.11
Repair Folder in SM 2.1b2pre which I used as my guide and to write that 
reply.


This reply written with SM 2.0.11.

HTH
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Re: E-mail problem

[Mike C]

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles


I'm using SeaMonkey/2.0.11 and there's no problem.
It must be on your end.
Which inbox is full?
The one that's on the server or the Seamonkey inbox?

I don't think there's a limit on the Seamonkey folders.
I have 3600 in my inbox, 830 in the sent folder
and 4500 in the trash folder

And that's only one of my two email addresses!

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Re: E-mail problem

[Daniel]

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles


I'm using SeaMonkey/2.0.11 and there's no problem.
It must be on your end.
Which inbox is full?
The one that's on the server or the Seamonkey inbox?

I don't think there's a limit on the Seamonkey folders.
I have 3600 in my inbox, 830 in the sent folder
and 4500 in the trash folder

And that's only one of my two email addresses!



Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages 
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those 
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the 
attachments to those messages.


HTH

Daniel
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Re: E-mail problem

[Mike C]

Daniel wrote:

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

To Whom it may concern,

During the last two weeks I have been having a problem retrieving my
e-mails from web mail into my regular e-mail. I am constantly receiving
a message that my e-mail mail box is full, yet I know that this is not
true because I only have very few messages in my inbox. Most of my
attachments have been deleted so there is very little space being
occupied in my inbox.
Currently I am using Earthlink as my ISP with Seamonkey as my browser. I
have contacted my friends about this problem and they are also
experiencing the same situation. Also they are receiving duplicate
e-mails from time to time.

I understand that a new version of Seamonkey is about to be released. I
sincerely hope that this problem is resolved with the new edition.
Please let me know if this problem will be fixed.

Thank you very much for your assistance.

George Achilles


I'm using SeaMonkey/2.0.11 and there's no problem.
It must be on your end.
Which inbox is full?
The one that's on the server or the Seamonkey inbox?

I don't think there's a limit on the Seamonkey folders.
I have 3600 in my inbox, 830 in the sent folder
and 4500 in the trash folder

And that's only one of my two email addresses!



Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the
attachments to those messages.

HTH

Daniel

Does anyone know the technical size limit?
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Re: E-mail problem

[Rick Merrill]

Mike C wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

...


Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the
attachments to those messages.

HTH

Daniel

Does anyone know the technical size limit?


How big is your disk drive and do you have a 32 bit or a 64 bit computer?
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Re: E-mail problem

[Daniel]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mike C wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

...


Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the
attachments to those messages.

HTH

Daniel

Does anyone know the technical size limit?


How big is your disk drive and do you have a 32 bit or a 64 bit computer?


Didn't Windows (Mike's system) just raise it's max file size limit from 
2GB to 4GB??


Daniel
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Re: E-mail problem

[Rickles]

Daniel wrote:

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mike C wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

...


Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the
attachments to those messages.

HTH

Daniel

Does anyone know the technical size limit?


How big is your disk drive and do you have a 32 bit or a 64 bit computer?


Didn't Windows (Mike's system) just raise it's max file size limit from
2GB to 4GB??

Daniel
Windoze file size limitations are based on the type of disk format being 
used.  FAT32 has a 4GB physical file sime limit, where NTFS doesn't.  If 
you have a PC with XP, Vista or Win7 running on NTFS volumes and you've 
got a large (>4GB) video file you want to copy to a USB flash pen, even 
if the pen has the space, if it's formatted in FAT32 then the file won't 
copy.  The flash pen isn't defective, it simply can't 'see' files that big.

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Re: E-mail problem

[Mike C]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Mike C wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Mike C wrote:

George & Pat Achilles wrote:

...


Mike C, as I understand it, the limit is not so much how many messages
you have in you box, but the total size of all the messages, even those
supposedly deleted since you last Compacted your file, and all the
attachments to those messages.

HTH

Daniel

Does anyone know the technical size limit?


How big is your disk drive and do you have a 32 bit or a 64 bit computer?


Ok... The way I understand you are only limited by the size of your hard 
drive.


In other words when the total of all SM mail and everything else on the 
hard drive adds up to the size of the hard drive. you're done.


There isn't any limit caused by SM.  ONLY the hard drive size.
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