Re: any way to collapse news servers......
Hartmut Figge wrote: Daniel: If I set the preference news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane to TRUE, I would expect the *news* *server* in the *folderpane* to appear *in* the *open* *state*!! No, the open_state of the newsservers, expanded or collapsed, is persistent. ;) Hartmut O.K., so if I leave a server open, the next time I open the mail Newsgroup panel, that server will be open and begin to update the numbers of messages in the news groups. O.K. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
Ant schrieb: Hi! Is it me or is it hard to click those down arrow buttons sometimes when using small toolbar icon size? It seems like the areas for them are not very accurate. This is when using SeaMonkey v2.0. Thank you in advance. :) No problems here. (using Classic theme) regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Collapsing threads
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Martin Freitag wrote: Daniel schrieb: Currently using SM 1.1.15, but the situation has been ongoing. When viewing threads here, I can tap the * sign and all threads are expanded. How do I go the other way, i.e. collapse the threads?? Logically tapping the - should be the answer but nothing happens. Tapping the / does nothing. Anyone?? Use the \ (see the View Menu = threads ;-) ) regards Martin Thank you, Martin. Of course I should have looked at the View menu...just didn't think about it!! Where is the logic though?? If the multiplication key * expands the threads, wouldn't it be logical for the division key / to collapse the threads?? So why was the \ key chosen?? Might check into bugzilla and see if I can find anything. Daniel Added my suggestion to bug (RFE) 215826 Quote I was originally going to ask if the Collapse Thread key could be changed from the \ to the / key, as this sort of makes sense, * to expand, / to collapse, but if the / key is used for other functions, would it be difficult to change the * key function from Expand Thread to Toggle Open/Close Thread?? UnQuote Daniel I believe I am not sure / and \ is not allowed in file names its one of a few special characters. and may be a problem associated with newsgroups and email. Currently (well in SM 1.1.15, at least), if you are in a news group and press the * key, all threads are expanded, and the if you press \ you can collapse all threads. I'm just suggesting, if they cannot use * and / (because the / key is/was used for a particular function), then, maybe, just make the * key a toggle, first time open all threads, second time collapse all threads, third time open all threads, etc., etc. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Add a new Newsgroups account
Hello all, I can't seem to be able to add a new account to SM2. I click on the add account button in the settings dialog, and it launches the wizard. But it does not ask me what kind of account I want to create. If I go to the end of the wizard, it modifies the last account in the list and creates nothing. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Add a new Newsgroups account
Olivier Sannier wrote: I can't seem to be able to add a new account to SM2. I click on the add account button in the settings dialog, and it launches the wizard. But it does not ask me what kind of account I want to create. If I go to the end of the wizard, it modifies the last account in the list and creates nothing. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? Likely: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 Read the initial comment for a workaround. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Add a new Newsgroups account
Jens Hatlak wrote: Olivier Sannier wrote: I can't seem to be able to add a new account to SM2. I click on the add account button in the settings dialog, and it launches the wizard. But it does not ask me what kind of account I want to create. If I go to the end of the wizard, it modifies the last account in the list and creates nothing. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? Likely: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 Read the initial comment for a workaround. Ah yes, thanks for that, it now works fine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: In a wor, yes. The form manager was left out, ant Phil Chee explained why. He also posted here that the form manager is being reconsidered, which is a good thing. Just as a note, I think it's clear to most people here, but I want to clearly state that we're of course not bringing the old form manager back - what we are considering (and we talked about that from the first minute, releasing 2.0 at all was just higher priority) is to integrate/adopt/build a new form data management that allows viewing, searching and deleting stored form data, similar (perhaps basing on) that existing add-on out there (can't remember the name right now) - you probably know which one I'm talking about. Also, we might look into possibilities to fill out multiple form fields with saved data at once, but we can't guarantee we find or adopt a good solution for that. I think that's exactly what Philip explained, just wanted to make that clear to put into perspective what is being reconsidered means here. And, this is of course stuff for a 2.1, which still has a few months until it comes out, and, also of course, help from you in the community is highly wanted on this! Robert Kaiser I am not say bring back the old code. That's silly. What I am saying is for two or three sit down and run SM 1.1.18 and the Forms Manager (and other options) and see what it actually does. If I could figure out how to open a copy without downloading some emails I would have to copy over, I'd open the old forms Manager and takes some screen shots. I am all for progress and if you can come up with new code to mimic it great. What gets at my craw is because the developers don't use a Feature they assume no one use that feature. What needs to be done is when creating a design is a year before the new design is to hit the air waves is is for the old version be opened and each menu item and preference be documented on paper and Items that would be useful for the messes of users figure out a way to do the same or similar in the new one. The forum Manager must have been useful for even FireFox, or some enterprising young person (or creaky old man for that matter) would not have come up with an extension. As soon as I found out about forms history Manager I downloaded it and installed it, in a Heart beat. It is not quite as easy to use as the previous, but I will make do. I have no choice. The problem with software design is everyone takes a meat axe approach whacking way and removing anything and everything the developers don't like, or don't use and see no use for. when the should be using a scalpel approach. Features were originally put in for a purpose. To make the user life better when using a browser or email Client. Developers should think like end users. Especially open Source developers where they are coding for the users; as opposed to the investors, and BOD, rather than the customers for purchased software. One reason I am such a poster boy for Forms Manager. Is I unlike most here are, I am not perfect. I make typing mistakes all the time. especially since I am a hunt and peck typist. I went to school back in the day when your manhood was question if you took typing, and I never was any great shakes at English, composition, and especially spelling. So it very easy and quite common to make mistakes in spelling. In fact with the Forms history extension I've already corrected a bunch of mistakes and need to run it again to tweak some more as I've added more entries. As an example I was a big fan of intuits Quicken from the day it was first introduced. I have quit using it in last few years when they changed the file format the banks were suppose to use to send and receive information about my accounts, to my quicken software. Well my bank is many of the 100's if not thousands of Banks that have refused to switch over. First because that means new software they must deploy and previously Intuit was just supplying it now they have to pay hundreds of dollars for it. Quicken has lost a big following. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: any way to collapse news servers......
Daniel wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Daniel: If I set the preference news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane to TRUE, I would expect the *news* *server* in the *folderpane* to appear *in* the *open* *state*!! No, the open_state of the newsservers, expanded or collapsed, is persistent. ;) Hartmut O.K., so if I leave a server open, the next time I open the mail Newsgroup panel, that server will be open and begin to update the numbers of messages in the news groups. O.K. Daniel No not necessarily. Depends up how you have server settings set in the Mail Newsgroup Server setting set need to turn on each tine first three times I would set 15 minutes as the least time to check. Need to do this each news group. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: any way to collapse news servers......
Daniel wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Daniel: If I set the preference news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane to TRUE, I would expect the *news* *server* in the *folderpane* to appear *in* the *open* *state*!! No, the open_state of the newsservers, expanded or collapsed, is persistent. ;) Hartmut O.K., so if I leave a server open, the next time I open the mail Newsgroup panel, that server will be open and begin to update the numbers of messages in the news groups. O.K. Daniel No not necessarily. Depends up how you have server settings set in the Mail Newsgroup Server setting set need to turn on each tine first three times I would set 15 minutes as the least time to check. Need to do this each news group. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
On 12/4/2009 1:29 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed: Is it me or is it hard to click those down arrow buttons sometimes when using small toolbar icon size? It seems like the areas for them are not very accurate. This is when using SeaMonkey v2.0. No problems here. (using Classic theme) Ah, I forgot to mention I use modern theme. I can't stand the classic theme. -- Thanks for giving me the courage to eat all those ants. --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net a écrit : Therefore, you consider SM2.0 all ok, because you were not affected. No. I consider SM2.0 OK because it does what it's meant to. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
I like to select and delete unwanted e-mail before I start to read the ones I am interested in but when I right click the mouse to select the e-mail for deletion and hit enter to delete it or them the next e-mail in line opens up and I would prefer that it did not until I select it. Is there a way to stop it from opening the next e-mail until I select it. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Migration wizard hangs
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/3/2009 2:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: But we're not supposed to wait on machines, they're supposed to wait on us! ;-) Actually, we build machines to do things for us, therefore we wait on them :-) Dialect difference. Where I come from, we wait /for/ things to happen. When we wait /on/ people, we are serving them (as in a restaurant). -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
u...@domain.invalid a écrit : Is there a way to stop it from opening the next e-mail until I select it. Get Unselect Message at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#unselectmessage You will need to install xSidebar first. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...
Phillip Jones wrote: [snipping the oldest part of the thread] In version 1 (correct me if there are changes in v.2), I can explicitly save a message as a draft, and it stays there indefinitely until I take some explicit action like deleting or sending it. Additionally, the program automatically saves the message I'm currently composing as a draft every five minutes (default, I can set a different interval), as a backup measure. So if I take more than five minutes to compose, there's a backup copy until I hit Send. If transmission succeeds, SM moves it to Sent, otherwise it keeps it in Drafts and notifies me of the problem. correct the way it supposed to work, Now templates whatever is there is permanent until you remove it. when you send something you send a copy not the original. OK, you're probably technically right at the machine level, that a move is essentially a copy followed by a delete, but the user doesn't conceptualize it that way. If I manually save a message as a draft more than once, I get a series of drafts in the Drafts folder, and when I finally send it, only the latest version is moved to Sent. I must delete the previous versions manually. But autosaved drafts overwrite the previous version. On Mac if you save as another Draft another copy is added with the exact same name just the date and time is different. Yes, I think I said that. In one case, I had a troublesome message in Drafts for several weeks as I went back and forth over how to compose it. Eventually, I thought better of it and deleted it. But SM never bothered it. It stayed put just as if it were in any other folder. As noted above, Send Unsent Messages does not affect the contents of Drafts. It only looks in Unsent Messages (v.1) or Outbox (v.2). The advantage of Templates is that if I open one, compose and send it, the original stays put and I can reopen it and draft another message based on that same template. Each modified version, when sent, is copied to Sent, but the untouched original stays put. And finally, messages saved in user-created folders stay put, too, until the user moves or deletes them. Where do you copy message that may need to be resent to newsgroups. I dunno, I don't generally hem and haw over NG postings, and I hardly ever have to resend because they go through on the first try. But if a posting failed, I suppose SM would tell me and I could reattempt while the composition window was still open. I don't manually close the composition window while sending is in progress. In previous SM and Mozilla You could have seamonkey copy a message and if it needed to be resent (problem at the newsgroup or whatever) you could go to that copy choose edit massage as new. then choose send and it would. Yes, that makes sense. Normally I have SM set to copy sent messages to the Sent folder, and if I need to resend or forward them, that's where I look. Now if you try a message comes up message was not sent, and something about for email only and if you continued command will be ignored. I don't follow, and I don't recognize this experience. this is regardless if copied to email directory or to the Local Directory. I've never had anything in Local Folders, if that's what you mean, though I'm aware that other users do. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Get Unselect Message at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#unselectmessage You will need to install xSidebar first. S. OK thanks I'll give it a shot. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
u...@domain.invalid wrote: I like to select and delete unwanted e-mail before I start to read the ones I am interested in but when I right click the mouse to select the e-mail for deletion and hit enter to delete it or them the next e-mail in line opens up and I would prefer that it did not until I select it. Is there a way to stop it from opening the next e-mail until I select it. Thanks Doesn't it let you close the preview pane (where messages display) by clicking the divider or dragging it to the edge of the window? That's what I've been doing for years in SeaMonkey 1, Mozilla, and even Netscape 4.x. I'd hate to hear the developers eliminated such an essential feature. Here's my normal view: Folder1 | Message1 subject/author line Folder2 | Message2 subject/author line Folder3 | Message3 subject/author line Folder4 +-(==) ... | ... | ... | Message display area ... | (preview pane) ... | ... | And here's the view I use when processing spam: Folder1 | Message1 subject/author line Folder2 | Message2 subject/author line Folder3 | Message3 subject/author line Folder4 | Message4 subject/author line ... | Message5 subject/author line ... | Message6 subject/author line ... | Message7 subject/author line ... | Message8 subject/author line ... | Message9 subject/author line ... | Message10 subject/author line -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sending e-mail later in outbox in SM2.0...
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [snipping the oldest part of the thread] In version 1 (correct me if there are changes in v.2), I can explicitly save a message as a draft, and it stays there indefinitely until I take some explicit action like deleting or sending it. Additionally, the program automatically saves the message I'm currently composing as a draft every five minutes (default, I can set a different interval), as a backup measure. So if I take more than five minutes to compose, there's a backup copy until I hit Send. If transmission succeeds, SM moves it to Sent, otherwise it keeps it in Drafts and notifies me of the problem. correct the way it supposed to work, Now templates whatever is there is permanent until you remove it. when you send something you send a copy not the original. OK, you're probably technically right at the machine level, that a move is essentially a copy followed by a delete, but the user doesn't conceptualize it that way. If I manually save a message as a draft more than once, I get a series of drafts in the Drafts folder, and when I finally send it, only the latest version is moved to Sent. I must delete the previous versions manually. But autosaved drafts overwrite the previous version. On Mac if you save as another Draft another copy is added with the exact same name just the date and time is different. Yes, I think I said that. In one case, I had a troublesome message in Drafts for several weeks as I went back and forth over how to compose it. Eventually, I thought better of it and deleted it. But SM never bothered it. It stayed put just as if it were in any other folder. As noted above, Send Unsent Messages does not affect the contents of Drafts. It only looks in Unsent Messages (v.1) or Outbox (v.2). The advantage of Templates is that if I open one, compose and send it, the original stays put and I can reopen it and draft another message based on that same template. Each modified version, when sent, is copied to Sent, but the untouched original stays put. And finally, messages saved in user-created folders stay put, too, until the user moves or deletes them. Where do you copy message that may need to be resent to newsgroups. I dunno, I don't generally hem and haw over NG postings, and I hardly ever have to resend because they go through on the first try. But if a posting failed, I suppose SM would tell me and I could reattempt while the composition window was still open. I don't manually close the composition window while sending is in progress. In previous SM and Mozilla You could have seamonkey copy a message and if it needed to be resent (problem at the newsgroup or whatever) you could go to that copy choose edit massage as new. then choose send and it would. Yes, that makes sense. Normally I have SM set to copy sent messages to the Sent folder, and if I need to resend or forward them, that's where I look. Now if you try a message comes up message was not sent, and something about for email only and if you continued command will be ignored. I don't follow, and I don't recognize this experience. this is regardless if copied to email directory or to the Local Directory. I've never had anything in Local Folders, if that's what you mean, though I'm aware that other users do. I have tested thsi reply : The save action is done in the Draft folder of the Local folders directory. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net wrote: For the question: Will any bugs pecurliar to SeaMonkey be fixed? Will any bugs be fixed other than security bugs? Will any bugs be fixed other than those fixed in Gecko for Firefox? The answer is NO only the already fixed in current nightlies will be fixed. The answer is YES, YES, and YES, if you compare to SeaMonkey 2.0 final, and that's what counts in the end, right? Are you saying that ALL bugs are fixed ? Unbelievable ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Ray_Net a écrit : Therefore, you consider SM2.0 all ok, because you were not affected. No. I consider SM2.0 OK because it does what it's meant to. S. So you consider per exemple that the migration problems are normal ... and should not be avoided. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
quick question
Does SM have the video download helper ext as does Firefox? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: quick question
Norvin wrote: Does SM have the video download helper ext as does Firefox? Whoops, redid my search and found it. Please ignore ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net wrote: In my opinion, the migration issues are MAJOR ISSUES ... They are, but 1) they are really hard to get a grip on, as most people don't repeatedly test them, and being well-reproducible and well-reproduced is one of the major things to get well-reported specific problems fixed (I'll leave out for the moment that many of those problems are not well-reported bugs and not specificly enough described to even be able to try and reproduce them). 2) Once data is being migrated or otherwise moved to a new 2.0 profile, people are over those problems and never see them again - so while they are _very_ painful for the moment when they happen, the pain is completely gone once the data gets over to 2.0 in some way. Of course, we all would be happy if we didn't see those problems in the first place, but the only scenario I can see that we go mostly pain-free there is if someone comes up and spends a whole lot of time on the migration code, and we at the same time have some very specific reports of where we go wrong with exact circumstances that lead to the failures. And, as unfortunate as that is, I really doubt that someone will come up that easily - unless you are that someone and are lurking around here waiting to become the next SeaMonkey superstar. If you are, I'm all for casting you in that role as migration superman! We're trying to find solutions for some of the migration problems where we find out what exactly the problems are and where we know good ways to solve them. Still, please don't expect miracles from us. We're producing the best software we can with our relatively small team, but we know it might not be good enough for everybody - still we hope it is for most of you. Thanks for this clear explanation ... i agree with your point of vue. BTW i am reluctant for migration, because my profile has been corrupted by some SM bugs leaving me with an extra News (empty) channel visible and also some others empty and ghost ones ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?
Ray_Net a écrit : Are you saying that ALL bugs are fixed ? Unbelievable ! No, he's saying that they will be fixed. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
I'm pretty happy with SeaMonkey 2.0
I though I'd pass along my compliments. I use Seamonkey to manage mu email and Newsgroups. I have 10 email accounts 3 news servers and more than 50 email filters on my primary account. I spend much of my day working in Seamonkey. I had not done extensive testing of pre-release versions. I did run the RCs. I have found no major problems so far and my migration was trouble free even if it was exceptionally long, Perhaps my easy adaption is because I also use Firefox and Thunderbird regularly. I see many small improvements and linke any new software a few things I'll have to get used to, I am extremely excited to have Lightning available and most of my issues have been minor UI issues related to Lightning integration and my unfamiliarity with tabbed mail, which I'm still struggling to use effectively. I put that down to it being new both to me and to SeaMonkey. Thanks to all of the developers and to the people here who helped me figure out my problems. -- Rob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : Doesn't it let you close the preview pane (where messages display) by clicking the divider or dragging it to the edge of the window? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that clicking or dragging the divider doesn't keep the message from opening; you just don't see it. It still opens, which is what he's trying to avoid. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net a écrit : So you consider per exemple that the migration problems are normal ... and should not be avoided. No, they are a problem. It's just hard to pinpoint as the vast majority of people don't have them. It doesn't mean that no one is trying to solve them. But it's besides the point as we were talking about the Forms Manager. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Phillip Jones wrote: What I am saying is for two or three sit down and run SM 1.1.18 and the Forms Manager (and other options) and see what it actually does. Well, what I forgot to mention in the other message is that we just don't have those two or three people that can take aside a few days each to work on this. We are a very small team of people only working on anything SeaMonkey in their free time next to having a completely different day job, you know. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Phillip Jones wrote: The problem with software design is everyone takes a meat axe approach whacking way and removing anything and everything the developers don't like, or don't use and see no use for. Well, even if you don't want to hear this, I'd much rather use well-maintained code that doesn't exactly what the old code did than using a pile of code nobody does maintain, has grave flaws and which is breaking in unexpected ways with the environment changing around it - which was the case with the old wallet code (which for some strange reason did entangle form and password managers into a single thing code-wise). I for one am using the new form filling code a lot, while I never did use the old stuff because it was too complicated for what I wanted and didn't really prefill the stuff that I really cared about, while the new code mostly does (not that it can't be improved - help is wanted, as always). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
On 12/4/2009 7:49 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I like to select and delete unwanted e-mail before I start to read the ones I am interested in but when I right click the mouse to select the e-mail for deletion and hit enter to delete it or them the next e-mail in line opens up and I would prefer that it did not until I select it. Is there a way to stop it from opening the next e-mail until I select it. Thanks Doesn't it let you close the preview pane (where messages display) by clicking the divider or dragging it to the edge of the window? That's what I've been doing for years in SeaMonkey 1, Mozilla, and even Netscape 4.x. I'd hate to hear the developers eliminated such an essential feature. Or, just use View - Layout - Message Pane (F8) - At least, I assume this is still available in 2.0. This will close the preview pane. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.0 ?
Ray_Net wrote: BTW i am reluctant for migration, because my profile has been corrupted by some SM bugs leaving me with an extra News (empty) channel visible and also some others empty and ghost ones Those problems that lead to corruption should be less in the new code we're using in SeaMonkey 2.0, from all we know, and we're working on improving that situation further in the future. From all we know, using 2.0 is safer in terms of profile data than 1.1.18 - that is, once your data is migrated over, which works fine for many people, but unfortunately not everyone. :-/ Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?
Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net wrote: For the question: Will any bugs pecurliar to SeaMonkey be fixed? Will any bugs be fixed other than security bugs? Will any bugs be fixed other than those fixed in Gecko for Firefox? The answer is NO only the already fixed in current nightlies will be fixed. The answer is YES, YES, and YES, if you compare to SeaMonkey 2.0 final, and that's what counts in the end, right? Are you saying that ALL bugs are fixed ? Unbelievable ! No, what I said is: YES, some bugs peculiar to SeaMonkey will be fixed in 2.0.1. YES, some bugs other than security bugs will be fixed there. YES, some bugs are fixed other than those in Gecko for Firefox. The bug list I posted earlier gives an overview of everything fixed in 2.0.1, including those specifically for SeaMonkey, and also those for Gecko and Toolkit, which we share with Firefox. For anyone not in the Mozilla security group, that list doesn't yet show the about 20 Gecko security bugs that are additionally fixed, but from what you asked, you're not interested in those anyhow. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Saving photos received in mail
Stan schrieb: Used to be that I could easily save photos I received inE-mails to my photo folders. Now, in release 2.0, when I try to save the photos they end up being downloaded by the Download Manager (which I find to be a big nuisance). Now, how do move them to my photo folders? I even tried dragging them from the E-mail to the folder and that doesn't work. Drag'n'Drop works fine here, I wonder why... regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
old bookmarks.html, passwords
Is there any way to import an old bookmarks.html file into Seamonkey 2.0 (other than upgrading from 1.1.1.8?) On a different note, is there a way to share passwords between Seamonkey and Firefox? Alan -- -- ** Please use address alanh77[at]comcast.net to reply via e-mail. ** Posted using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 and eComStation 1.2R -- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
When I post long URLs they are wrapping. In previous versions this did not happen. It left the complete URL in tact on one line. It is unacceptable to wrap URL's. Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. I've been over all the options in the UI and can't find any settings to be able to change either of these behaviors. SM 2.0 is beginning to seem like a step backward more and more. -sw ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: old bookmarks.html, passwords
nobodyh...@min.net a écrit : Is there any way to import an old bookmarks.html file into Seamonkey 2.0 (other than upgrading from 1.1.1.8?) Bookmarks -- Bookmark manager -- Tools -- Import S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
Sqwertz wrote: Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. Edit -- Preferences -- Mail Newsgroups -- Composition S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
Sqwertz schrieb: When I post long URLs they are wrapping. In previous versions this did not happen. It left the complete URL in tact on one line. It is unacceptable to wrap URL's. This has always been like that, afaik. Just enclose your url in brackets and common mail/news-readers will be able to recognize multilined links/urls. example: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3campid=5336224516toolid=10001customid=tiny-hpext=unicyclesatitle=unicycle Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. I've been over all the options in the UI and can't find any settings to be able to change either of these behaviors. Maybe you're getting old and in the need of glasses ;-) http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2882/inline.png SM 2.0 is beginning to seem like a step backward more and more. No, it's you ;-P regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: old bookmarks.html, passwords
nobodyh...@min.net schrieb: Is there any way to import an old bookmarks.html file into Seamonkey 2.0 (other than upgrading from 1.1.1.8?) Open the Bookmark-Manager and select Extras/Tools. There's an import and an export function. Feed it with your file or tell it to import from another application. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
S. Beaulieu wrote: Sqwertz wrote: Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. Edit -- Preferences -- Mail Newsgroups -- Composition Or, about:config preference mail.forward_message_mode. Set it to 0 for attachment, 1 for inline. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ same here ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Confirmed for my 1.1.18, but WFM for 2.1. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: I'm pretty happy with SeaMonkey 2.0
Rob Steinmetz wrote: I though I'd pass along my compliments. I use Seamonkey to manage mu email and Newsgroups. I have 10 email accounts 3 news servers and more than 50 email filters on my primary account. I spend much of my day working in Seamonkey. I had not done extensive testing of pre-release versions. I did run the RCs. I have found no major problems so far and my migration was trouble free even if it was exceptionally long, Perhaps my easy adaption is because I also use Firefox and Thunderbird regularly. I see many small improvements and linke any new software a few things I'll have to get used to, I am extremely excited to have Lightning available and most of my issues have been minor UI issues related to Lightning integration and my unfamiliarity with tabbed mail, which I'm still struggling to use effectively. I put that down to it being new both to me and to SeaMonkey. Thanks to all of the developers and to the people here who helped me figure out my problems. Me too ! Found no problems under Linux (Ubuntu 9.10). Grateful thanks to the Seamonkey team. Laurie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
Mark Hansen wrote: On 12/4/2009 7:49 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: u...@domain.invalid wrote: I like to select and delete unwanted e-mail before I start to read the ones I am interested in but when I right click the mouse to select the e-mail for deletion and hit enter to delete it or them the next e-mail in line opens up and I would prefer that it did not until I select it. Is there a way to stop it from opening the next e-mail until I select it. Thanks Doesn't it let you close the preview pane (where messages display) by clicking the divider or dragging it to the edge of the window? That's what I've been doing for years in SeaMonkey 1, Mozilla, and even Netscape 4.x. I'd hate to hear the developers eliminated such an essential feature. Or, just use View - Layout - Message Pane (F8) - At least, I assume this is still available in 2.0. This will close the preview pane. Beautiful, thanks for the tip. I never knew about that shortcut. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
S. Beaulieu wrote: Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : Doesn't it let you close the preview pane (where messages display) by clicking the divider or dragging it to the edge of the window? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that clicking or dragging the divider doesn't keep the message from opening; you just don't see it. It still opens, which is what he's trying to avoid. Can't speak for v. 2, but in v. 1, when the divider reaches the edge of the window (so the preview pane has a size of zero), whether because you clicked it or dragged it, the messages don't open. At least SeaMonkey doesn't think it's opening them -- if I click on a subject line with the preview pane closed, it doesn't mark the message as read. I'm not talking about shrinking the preview pane to a nonzero size, which does allow messages to open, even if you can't see them very well. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How do you prevent seamonkey 2.0 from opening mail?
Paul B. Gallagher a écrit : I'm not talking about shrinking the preview pane to a nonzero size, which does allow messages to open, even if you can't see them very well. Gotcha! That's what I thought you meant. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Same here, though the status bar still says Transferring data from edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk, even though the throbber has stopped. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
email issues or bug??
Hello all.. I Am using SM 2.0 under Win XP Pro. The issue I have as of late is that when viewing email in some of my folders, after opening the message and leaving the folder, the message disappears completely. I have tried compacting the folders and that did not work. Any suggestions or ideas as to the challenge here? TIA... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Same here, though the status bar still says Transferring data from edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk, even though the throbber has stopped. Tried putting that in my HOSTS file, but no change. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ For what its worth, its popping right up in SM 2.0. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email issues or bug??
NO wrote: Hello all.. I Am using SM 2.0 under Win XP Pro. The issue I have as of late is that when viewing email in some of my folders, after opening the message and leaving the folder, the message disappears completely. I have tried compacting the folders and that did not work. Any suggestions or ideas as to the challenge here? TIA... I know this seems basic, but lets eliminate it as a cause: ViewMessagesAll and, if using a threaded view: ViewsThreadsAll Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Testday for Seamonkey 2.0 next Friday, December 11th!
The MozQA community is holding a Testday on Friday, December 11th, for users interested in the use, development and/or testing of Seamonkey 2.0! We're going to have Robert Kaiser, the lead for SeaMonkey available to help users test the new project, learn how to report out the results of the tests and just generally chat about the project with the community via IRC Chat (channel #testday on irc://irc.mozilla.org). So, if you're interested, come on by anytime between 7AM to 5PM PDT that Friday! For more information, please go to http://quality.mozilla.org/events/2009/dec/11/testday-testing-seamonkey-20-b2 If you'd like to play around with the latest version of Seamonkey before the test day, feel free to go here to grab it: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.0/ See you there! -- Anthony Hughes (:ashughes) Asst Test Day Lead, MozQA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email issues or bug??
Leonidas Jones wrote: NO wrote: Hello all.. I Am using SM 2.0 under Win XP Pro. The issue I have as of late is that when viewing email in some of my folders, after opening the message and leaving the folder, the message disappears completely. I have tried compacting the folders and that did not work. Any suggestions or ideas as to the challenge here? TIA... I know this seems basic, but lets eliminate it as a cause: ViewMessagesAll and, if using a threaded view: ViewsThreadsAll Lee Lee, Thank you, it was so basic, that it worked. Leave nothing to chance. Warmest regards, Bo ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Quicktime
Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:44:10 -0500, /Bush/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:40:44 -0500, /Bush/: Cannot download Quicktime plugin Is this a Seamonkey problem or a window 7 problem ? swdlp.apple.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is not trusted. Error code: sec_error_untrusted_issuer) http://support.apple.com/downloads/#quicktime I don't have problems downloading and installing QuickTime, but as far as I know the latest QuickTime version doesn't have a browser plug-in (don't know the reason for this). Thanks for the info FWIW, updating to the latest QuickTime 7.6.5 made the browser plug-in reappear for me. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lightning Printing Oddity.
Rob Steinmetz wrote: After first having trouble getting printing to work I found a couple of oddities in printing from Lightning under SeaMonkey.2.0 First the Page Set Up is grayed out when a Lightning Tab is selected. At least some of the page preferences are still active and needed. For example Print Background Colors and Images, needs to be on to print colored calendars. Landscape could be useful. Print Preview is also grayed out. It could also be useful. Finally the Monthly Grid does not print Category Colors. And you still can't get the grid to print on only one page per month. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email issues or bug??
NO wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: NO wrote: /snip/ ViewMessagesAll and, if using a threaded view: ViewsThreadsAll Lee Lee, Thank you, it was so basic, that it worked. Leave nothing to chance. Warmest regards, Bo I am so glad it worked! Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Saving photos received in mail
Martin Freitag wrote: Martin Freitag schrieb: Stan schrieb: Used to be that I could easily save photos I received inE-mails to my photo folders. Now, in release 2.0, when I try to save the photos they end up being downloaded by the Download Manager (which I find to be a big nuisance). Now, how do move them to my photo folders? I even tried dragging them from the E-mail to the folder and that doesn't work. Drag'n'Drop works fine here, I wonder why... Haha, found out it's in a browser-window caught by the download statusbar extension ;-) You lost me with this one. What is download statusbar extension? Are you saying you didn't drag and drop from an E-mail? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/4/2009 11:38 AM, cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 Works for me. However, after loading the page, I got a popup (although I have popups blocked). The title bar said The page at http://servscanner03.com says: The content said Warning!!! Your personal computer needs to install antivirus software. Antivir can perform fast and free virus and malicious software scan of your computer. When I selected the Cancel button, some kind of scan started anyway. I killed it. I then searched for any new .exe or .dll files, but I found none. I have AVG installed. Although I just updated AVG a few days ago, I'm updating it again. I will then scan my whole PC. In the meantime, I added http://servscanner03.com to my Adblock Plus filter. I got the same thing. I got rid of it by adding it to my HOSTS. But, still no Politico homepage. I've notified them of that and of their obnoxious popup. Now I'll be doing a disk scan, too. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
David E. Ross: [http://www.politico.com/] However, after loading the page, I got a popup (although I have popups blocked). The title bar said The page at http://servscanner03.com says: The content said Warning!!! Your personal computer needs to install antivirus software. [...] Even after disabling Adblock Plus i don't get this popup. But i am using Linux and probably they recognize that. :) Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 4/12/2009 12:54, Ant told the world: On 12/4/2009 1:29 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed: Is it me or is it hard to click those down arrow buttons sometimes when using small toolbar icon size? It seems like the areas for them are not very accurate. This is when using SeaMonkey v2.0. No problems here. (using Classic theme) Ah, I forgot to mention I use modern theme. I can't stand the classic theme. You might wish to try Johannes Schellen's Pinball theme. It has its roots in the Modern theme, but it's compact and very good-looking. http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ Or if you like, you could try Alfred Kayser's Walnut theme... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/50034 It may take a special taste, but I love it. It's easier on the eyes for me, no stark white background in the mail list. :) bj bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Works for me. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
Martin Freitag wrote: Sqwertz schrieb: When I post long URLs they are wrapping. In previous versions this did not happen. It left the complete URL in tact on one line. It is unacceptable to wrap URL's. This has always been like that, afaik. Just enclose your url in brackets and common mail/news-readers will be able to recognize multilined links/urls. example: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3campid=5336224516toolid=10001customid=tiny-hpext=unicyclesatitle=unicycle Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. I've been over all the options in the UI and can't find any settings to be able to change either of these behaviors. Maybe you're getting old and in the need of glasses ;-) http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2882/inline.png SM 2.0 is beginning to seem like a step backward more and more. No, it's you ;-P regards Martin In SM 1.1.18 and below typing or copying a link as long as above would not break and would be a continuous line such as above. I have noticed though SM2 does break it but remains active or if it breaks while typing it does show at destination as one continuous link. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 Forwarding and Wrapping
S. Beaulieu wrote: Sqwertz wrote: Also, I can't seem to find the setting Forward messages as inline|attachment. It's defaulting to attachments, which is also ugly. Edit -- Preferences -- Mail Newsgroups -- Composition S. Also from Main Menu choose Message then mouse down to Forward Inline. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 4/12/2009 12:54, Ant told the world: On 12/4/2009 1:29 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed: Is it me or is it hard to click those down arrow buttons sometimes when using small toolbar icon size? It seems like the areas for them are not very accurate. This is when using SeaMonkey v2.0. No problems here. (using Classic theme) Ah, I forgot to mention I use modern theme. I can't stand the classic theme. You might wish to try Johannes Schellen's Pinball theme. It has its roots in the Modern theme, but it's compact and very good-looking. http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ Try venerable modern by SailFish. It pretty good. the best ever theme for SM is SkyPilot but it interferes with the extension quote Colors. If you don't use Quote Colors then it would be ideal. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Timeline for Release of Seamonkey 2.x?
Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net wrote: For the question: Will any bugs pecurliar to SeaMonkey be fixed? Will any bugs be fixed other than security bugs? Will any bugs be fixed other than those fixed in Gecko for Firefox? The answer is NO only the already fixed in current nightlies will be fixed. The answer is YES, YES, and YES, if you compare to SeaMonkey 2.0 final, and that's what counts in the end, right? Are you saying that ALL bugs are fixed ? Unbelievable ! What do you mean by ALL, Ray?? Do you think that Robert is stating that SM 2.0.1 will be perfect, never to have anything found wrong with it in the future? I would suggest that Robert is merely saying that some of the faults, those that have so far been detected, will be fixed in SM 2.0.1. In a years time, someone, somewhere may still find a bug in SeaMonkey X.x.x, and at that time, the great gang of fella's that do the work on SM will set about fixing those faults. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx Works correctly here Seamonkey 1.1.18 Win7 pro It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7 Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it works for you. Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail. Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey 1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7. Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest. Lee Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters computer Unless someone has reset the ua on them. Check the about:config pref to see if iit is also marked userset. Lee Or Help:About SeaMonkey up on the top line to see what version you are telling the world you are using. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
How far back was it??? (((was Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0)))
David E. Ross wrote: On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx This is bug #330094. It was reported to the Mozilla community about 3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0. Less than two weeks later, it was also noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a). About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2. Your jokingSM 1.5a (2.0) was being developed three and a half years ago!!! This must have been back in the SM 1.0 days, or earlier!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OT Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
Hartmut Figge wrote: cmcadams: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ Confirmed for my 1.1.18, but WFM for 2.1. Hartmut 2.1boy are you ahead of things, Hartmut!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
cmcadams wrote: But not in IE. For the first time in my experience. Anyone else? http://www.politico.com/ WFM. SM 1.1.15 on Win98. No pop-up! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Certificates.
Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Bush wrote: NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote: Graham wrote: Bush wrote: /snip/ /snip/ snip Thanks for the help Lee .I may answer some more of you inquiries later. But typing with one hand makes the good Hand Hurt .. I already lost one hand and do not want to loose the remaining one . One of our valued contributors here types one handed as well. (Hi Daniel) I don't have any personal experience with one handed typing, but I manage to do badly enough with two hands :) I do appreciate your efforts in improving this valued suite. Lee Gee, Lee, I was thinking of asking Bush how he lost his hand (Me Right Arm, above elbow, in car accident) but thought TPTB might get nasty, and wasn't sure Bush would follow me if I cross posted to m.gen. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT Re: POLITICO coming up blank in SM 1.1.18
Daniel: Hartmut Figge wrote: Confirmed for my 1.1.18, but WFM for 2.1. 2.1boy are you ahead of things, Hartmut!! That's where the interesting things happen. And also the interesting regressions. *g* Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
On 12/4/2009 6:55 PM PT, chicagofan typed: Ah, I forgot to mention I use modern theme. I can't stand the classic theme. You might wish to try Johannes Schellen's Pinball theme. It has its roots in the Modern theme, but it's compact and very good-looking. http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ Or if you like, you could try Alfred Kayser's Walnut theme... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/50034 Eh, colors are weird for me. I really like modern theme. I am glad that v2 kept it. -- I have to sit up with a sick ant. --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Using small toolbar icons size...
On 12/4/2009 4:50 PM PT, MCBastos typed: Is it me or is it hard to click those down arrow buttons sometimes when using small toolbar icon size? It seems like the areas for them are not very accurate. This is when using SeaMonkey v2.0. No problems here. (using Classic theme) Ah, I forgot to mention I use modern theme. I can't stand the classic theme. You might wish to try Johannes Schellen's Pinball theme. It has its roots in the Modern theme, but it's compact and very good-looking. http://mozilla-themes.schellen.net/ Ick, I don't like colors. :( -- Oh, look what Kyle got me, it's a red Mega... Ants in the pants? Ants in the pants?! Ants in the Pants?!! ... --Eric Cartman in South Park's Damien Episode (Season 1; Episode 8) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How far back was it??? (((was Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0)))
On 12/4/2009 9:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank. The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx This is bug #330094. It was reported to the Mozilla community about 3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0. Less than two weeks later, it was also noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a). About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2. Your jokingSM 1.5a (2.0) was being developed three and a half years ago!!! This must have been back in the SM 1.0 days, or earlier!! Daniel No joke. Actually, it's quite sad. Bug #330094 was originally written 10 March 2006 against Camino 1.0. Later on that same date, it was updated to report the same problem with Firefox. Bug #331019 was written on 19 March 2006, reporting the same problem in Firefox 1.5.0.1. This was immediately determined to be a duplicate of bug #330094, which caused the latter's Product to be changed from Camino to Core (i.e., Gecko). On 10 October 2007, it was finally determined that bug #330094 is not a Mozilla problem but is actually a problem within http://online.tvguide.com/listings/. The Product was changed from Core to Tech Evangelism. So this problem was first noted 3-1/2 years ago and was finally found to be a TV Guide problem 2 years ago. I don't use the TV Guide site, so I haven't communicated the problem to them. Has anyone else tried to bring this to the attention of TV Guide? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey