[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 731 18/07/2024-24/07/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 731 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17372/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #731 18/07/2024-24/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 731, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17372 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #731 18/07/2024-24/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 731, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17372 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2024 updates, SotM 2025 call for venue
Would you like to give some reassuring words about how safe the attendees will be. I understand there is some unrest in Nairobi. Thanks John Enock Seth Nyamador via talk <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> July 11, 2024 3:02 AM Hello OSM Community, (Apologies same messages, previous formatting issue fixed) Here are some updates and reminders related to SotM 2024 that you should not miss: the programme is ready [1], tickets are on sale now [1], and the call for posters has also opened [2]. The call for the SotM 2025 venue is still open [3]. 1. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/participating-in-sotm-2024-programme-and-tickets/ 2. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/sotm-2024-call-for-posters/ 3. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2025/Call_for_venues Best, Enock for SotM WG ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Enock Seth Nyamador via talk <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> July 11, 2024 2:55 AM * Hello OSM Community, Here are some updates and reminders related to SotM 2024 that you should not miss: the programme is ready [1], tickets are on sale now [1], and the call for posters has also opened [2]. The call for the SotM 2025 venue is still open [3]. 1. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/participating-in-sotm-2024-programme-and-tickets/2. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/sotm-2024-call-for-posters/3. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2025/Call_for_venues Best,Enock for SotM WG * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] name vs barnd
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 08:16, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Consensus from the English speakers is effectively that if you say you're > going down to Aldi, then the name is Aldi, while the branch could be Aldi > > I prefer to use: brand=Aldi branch= ref= name= To me the exact format of the name is less important so long and brand and branch and correctly tagged, data consumers can then choose how they want to display the label, it could just be brand, branch or some combination. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] name vs barnd
Yeah, do you go down to Woolies or do you go to : https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/storelocator/qld-burleigh-heads-2480 ? Thanks Graeme On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 08:32, cleary wrote: > My local Woolworths is named " Woolworths" and the nearby IGA is > " IGA". The Coles supermarket in a nearby suburb is "Coles > ". So the brand seems to form part of the name in each > case. Thus, for me, the name would be " Woolworths" and, if > considered necessary to add a brand, then the brand would be "Woolworths" > but probably not necessary. > > I recall some service stations where the name and brand are quite > different and where both would be appropriate e.g. " Service Station" > or " roadhouse" could have an additional "brand=*" as the brand > is not included in the name. > > > > Personally I would regard my local Woolworths and IGA supermarkets as > their respective names. > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, at 7:16 PM, Warin wrote: > > Hi > > > > My local Aldi store is closing down. > > > > Looking at the tags used, possibly entered by me, the name=Aldi has been > > used. I think that should have been the brand=Aldi ?? > > > > There are similar things for Coles and Woolies. > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > - > > > > Re Aldi closing down .. there are a few other Aldi stores around .. this > > is the second one in this area to close .. > > > > Possibly low trade for the previous one, this one ? I do prefer the less > > busy stores myself. > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-au mailing list > > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] name vs barnd
My local Woolworths is named " Woolworths" and the nearby IGA is " IGA". The Coles supermarket in a nearby suburb is "Coles ". So the brand seems to form part of the name in each case. Thus, for me, the name would be " Woolworths" and, if considered necessary to add a brand, then the brand would be "Woolworths" but probably not necessary. I recall some service stations where the name and brand are quite different and where both would be appropriate e.g. " Service Station" or " roadhouse" could have an additional "brand=*" as the brand is not included in the name. Personally I would regard my local Woolworths and IGA supermarkets as their respective names. On Wed, 24 Jul 2024, at 7:16 PM, Warin wrote: > Hi > > My local Aldi store is closing down. > > Looking at the tags used, possibly entered by me, the name=Aldi has been > used. I think that should have been the brand=Aldi ?? > > There are similar things for Coles and Woolies. > > > Any thoughts? > > > - > > Re Aldi closing down .. there are a few other Aldi stores around .. this > is the second one in this area to close .. > > Possibly low trade for the previous one, this one ? I do prefer the less > busy stores myself. > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] name vs barnd
There's been a very extensive discussion on this topic in the Forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/restructure-wiki-page-key-name/110631 (started by a non-native English speaker, saying that the English words are wrong!) Consensus from the English speakers is effectively that if you say you're going down to Aldi, then the name is Aldi, while the branch could be Aldi Thanks Graeme On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 19:19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > My local Aldi store is closing down. > > Looking at the tags used, possibly entered by me, the name=Aldi has been > used. I think that should have been the brand=Aldi ?? > > There are similar things for Coles and Woolies. > > > Any thoughts? > > > - > > Re Aldi closing down .. there are a few other Aldi stores around .. this > is the second one in this area to close .. > > Possibly low trade for the previous one, this one ? I do prefer the less > busy stores myself. > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] name vs barnd
Hi My local Aldi store is closing down. Looking at the tags used, possibly entered by me, the name=Aldi has been used. I think that should have been the brand=Aldi ?? There are similar things for Coles and Woolies. Any thoughts? - Re Aldi closing down .. there are a few other Aldi stores around .. this is the second one in this area to close .. Possibly low trade for the previous one, this one ? I do prefer the less busy stores myself. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
On Thu, 18 Jul 2024, Christoffer Holmstedt wrote: "shop=supermarket" för matbutik eller "shop=convenience" om det är en liten butik opening_hours=* (öppettider med personal) self_service=yes self_service:opening_hours=* (öppettider utan personal) self_service:conditional=BankID @ (öppettider utan personal) self_service:description:sv=Självbetjänning endast för kunder med elektronisk ID av typ BankID self_service:description:en=Self-service for customers with electronic ID "BankID" only. Det låter rimligt. Och kanske opening_hours:self_service=... då? Jag har sett några butiker som bara har öppet 06:00 - 24:00 även med självservice, kanske för att minska risken för stöld eller skadegörelse. Det är även vanligt för bibliotek; våra i Uppsala har meröppet 08:00 - 20:00. /Per Eric -- ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 730 11/07/2024-17/07/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 730 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17358/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #730 11/07/2024-17/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 730, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17358 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #730 11/07/2024-17/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 730, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17358 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] incontro dei mappatori a Roma il 23/7
Perfetto :)On Jul 20, 2024 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:benissimo, allora facciamo a Garbatella, alle 5 a Piazza Sauli? ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] incontro dei mappatori a Roma il 23/7
benissimo, allora facciamo a Garbatella, alle 5 a Piazza Sauli? ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] incontro dei mappatori a Roma il 23/7
Io sono a Garbatella, per me sarebbe più comodo nel pomeriggio On Jul 20, 2024 14:32, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone > On 18 Jul 2024, at 14:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > bene, allora il 23. A che ora, e dove? Direi delle catacombe oppure al meno un posto ombreggiato :D nel frattempo Rino ha dato buca, per imprevisti. Per me ci potremmo incontrare ugualmente, suggerisco un luogo centrale, ma sono aperto. Valerio dove ti farebbe comodo? Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
[Talk-it-lazio] incontro dei mappatori a Roma il 23/7
sent from a phone > On 18 Jul 2024, at 14:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > bene, allora il 23. A che ora, e dove? Direi delle catacombe oppure al meno > un posto ombreggiato :D nel frattempo Rino ha dato buca, per imprevisti. Per me ci potremmo incontrare ugualmente, suggerisco un luogo centrale, ma sono aperto. Valerio dove ti farebbe comodo? Ciao Martin ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1
Thank you so much Sawan! Donnobad and best regards, Jorieke On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 16:13, Sawan Shariar wrote: > Dear Jorieke, > Thank you so much for connecting us. I will share it with the community > and definitely will inform you if we have any queries. > > Thank you so much again. It is a pleasure to connect with you. > > *Best regards* > > > *Sawan Shariar* > Regional Ambassador, YouthMappers <https://www.youthmappers.org/> > President (Elected), OpenStreetMap Bangladesh > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmbd/> > > > > Contact: +8801912301814 > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/sawan-shariar-006855ba/> || Twitter > <https://twitter.com/sshariar1991> || Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/s.cloud.number9> || Instagram > <https://www.instagram.com/cloud.number9/?hl=en> > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:03 PM wrote: > >> Send Talk-bd mailing list submissions to >> talk-bd@openstreetmap.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> talk-bd-requ...@openstreetmap.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> talk-bd-ow...@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-bd digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Mapping camps Cox's Bazar (Jorieke Vyncke) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:59:59 +0200 >> From: Jorieke Vyncke >> To: talk-bd >> Cc: Jorieke Vyncke >> Subject: [Talk-bd] Mapping camps Cox's Bazar >> Message-ID: >> < >> caeo7yf472xf30qb1y6yg3xjxzrzo7yjxg7uqy5cny-ajhnv...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dear OSMers in Bangladesh, >> >> It's always a pleasure to write to you! >> >> We have just published a mapping project on the HOT Tasking Manager >> covering a part of the refugee camp in Cox's Bazar district. The camps >> were >> mapped in 2017 & 2018, and there was quite some change since then. The >> team >> of M?decins Sans Fronti?res/Doctors Without Borders working in the camps >> was thus asking if we could help updating them on OpenStreetMap, hence we >> created the project on the HOT Tasking Manager. >> >> Since this is updating the map we welcome all intermediate/advanced >> mappers >> to contribute. You can contribute via here: #17166: Missing Maps: Camp 14 >> & >> 15, Kutupalong, Bangladesh - HOT Tasking Manager (hotosm.org) >> <https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/17166> Please do not hesitate if you >> have questions are suggestions for improvement. >> >> Best wishes, >> Jorieke >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-bd/attachments/20240715/3be31b9e/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> >> -- >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> ___ >> Talk-bd mailing list >> Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd >> >> >> -- >> >> End of Talk-bd Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1 >> ** >> > ___ > Talk-bd mailing list > Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd > ___ Talk-bd mailing list Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd
Re: [Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Jag snubblade på https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/self-service-convenience-tagging/114003 som fick mig att läsa på om olika taggar. Kom fram till följande förslag, är mest tveksam hur man får in begränsningen att self_service endast är för BankID användare. Jag ska göra några försök under sommaren att tagga upp hybridbutiker som de så fint verkar få namn som i folkmun. "shop=supermarket" för matbutik eller "shop=convenience" om det är en liten butik opening_hours=* (öppettider med personal) self_service=yes self_service:opening_hours=* (öppettider utan personal) self_service:conditional=BankID @ (öppettider utan personal) self_service:description:sv=Självbetjänning endast för kunder med elektronisk ID av typ BankID self_service:description:en=Self-service for customers with electronic ID "BankID" only. ### Läst info från följande taggar bland annat (kanske mest som egen minneslapp) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:self_service https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours:kitchen https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:service_times https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:description https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Destination_details#destination:lang:%3Clanguage_code%3E https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php Den tors 18 juli 2024 kl 08:27 skrev Per Eric Rosén via Talk-se < talk-se@openstreetmap.org>: > Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade butiker (där > man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men > tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller en del > bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. > > /Per Eric > -- > ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ > / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 > F875___ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > -- Christoffer Holmstedt ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-bd] Talk-bd Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1
Dear Jorieke, Thank you so much for connecting us. I will share it with the community and definitely will inform you if we have any queries. Thank you so much again. It is a pleasure to connect with you. *Best regards* *Sawan Shariar* Regional Ambassador, YouthMappers <https://www.youthmappers.org/> President (Elected), OpenStreetMap Bangladesh <https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmbd/> Contact: +8801912301814 LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/sawan-shariar-006855ba/> || Twitter <https://twitter.com/sshariar1991> || Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/s.cloud.number9> || Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/cloud.number9/?hl=en> On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:03 PM wrote: > Send Talk-bd mailing list submissions to > talk-bd@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-bd-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-bd-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-bd digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Mapping camps Cox's Bazar (Jorieke Vyncke) > > > ------ > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:59:59 +0200 > From: Jorieke Vyncke > To: talk-bd > Cc: Jorieke Vyncke > Subject: [Talk-bd] Mapping camps Cox's Bazar > Message-ID: > < > caeo7yf472xf30qb1y6yg3xjxzrzo7yjxg7uqy5cny-ajhnv...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear OSMers in Bangladesh, > > It's always a pleasure to write to you! > > We have just published a mapping project on the HOT Tasking Manager > covering a part of the refugee camp in Cox's Bazar district. The camps were > mapped in 2017 & 2018, and there was quite some change since then. The team > of M?decins Sans Fronti?res/Doctors Without Borders working in the camps > was thus asking if we could help updating them on OpenStreetMap, hence we > created the project on the HOT Tasking Manager. > > Since this is updating the map we welcome all intermediate/advanced mappers > to contribute. You can contribute via here: #17166: Missing Maps: Camp 14 & > 15, Kutupalong, Bangladesh - HOT Tasking Manager (hotosm.org) > <https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/17166> Please do not hesitate if you > have questions are suggestions for improvement. > > Best wishes, > Jorieke > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-bd/attachments/20240715/3be31b9e/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > Talk-bd mailing list > Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd > > > -- > > End of Talk-bd Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1 > ** > ___ Talk-bd mailing list Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Digest di Talk-it-lazio, Volume 110, Numero 2
sent from a phone > On 18 Jul 2024, at 13:42, Valerio De Luca wrote: > > Ah ok Luglio. Per me va bene il 23 Luglio. bene, allora il 23. A che ora, e dove? Direi delle catacombe oppure al meno un posto ombreggiato :D ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] Digest di Talk-it-lazio, Volume 110, Numero 2
Ah ok Luglio. Per me va bene il 23 Luglio.Ciao Valerio On Jul 18, 2024 13:00, talk-it-lazio-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista Talk-it-lazio all'indirizzo talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org Per iscriverti o cancellarti attraverso il web, visita https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio oppure, via email, manda un messaggio con oggetto `help' all'indirizzo talk-it-lazio-requ...@openstreetmap.org Puoi contattare la persona che gestisce la lista all'indirizzo talk-it-lazio-ow...@openstreetmap.org Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest della lista Talk-it-lazio..." Argomenti del Giorno: 1. Re: rimappiamo? (Martin Koppenhoefer) 2. Re: rimappiamo? (Rino Nucara) 3. Re: rimappiamo? (Martin Koppenhoefer) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:21:24 +0200 From: Martin Koppenhoefer To: Rino Nucara Cc: Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ciao Rino, ho fatto passare questa email manualmente (generalmente possono scrivere solo gli iscritti alla lista, e il resto è quasi sempre spam, ma in questo caso mi sembrava di no ;-) ). Se vuoi continuare a scriverci sarebbe meglio che ti iscrivessi perché non posso garantire di gestire le mail non autorizzate sempre in tempo. Per queste date non ti dire con certezza, suggerisco di inviare una promemoria quando si avvicina la data, ma in generale sono favorevole e interessato. Saluti Martin -- parte successiva -- Un allegato HTML è stato rimosso... URL: -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:16:30 +0200 From: Rino Nucara To: Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo? Message-ID: <1832182e-229a-4075-9221-18e70d633...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" scusatemi! Ho sbagliato mese! il 19 ed il 23 *luglio* (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) On 17/07/24 11:24, Rino Nucara wrote: > Ciao a tutti! > il 19 ed il 23 agosto (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. > Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di > Roma ;-P ) > > Rino > -- parte successiva -- Un allegato HTML è stato rimosso... URL: -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2024 14:53:52 +0200 From: Martin Koppenhoefer To: Rino Nucara Cc: talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo? Message-ID: <972f9334-1df3-4751-8833-c3ff87820...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" daje, allora sì. Ti ho inviato in privato mio nummero. Magari si aggiunge qualcun?altro? sent from a phone > On 17 Jul 2024, at 14:18, Rino Nucara wrote: > > ? > scusatemi! > Ho sbagliato mese! > il 19 ed il 23 luglio (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. > Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) > >> On 17/07/24 11:24, Rino Nucara wrote: >> Ciao a tutti! >> il 19 ed il 23 agosto (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. >> Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) >> >> Rino >> > ___ > Talk-it-lazio mailing list > Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio -- parte successiva -- Un allegato HTML è stato rimosso... URL: -- Subject: Chiusura del digest ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio -- Fine di Digest di Talk-it-lazio, Volume 110, Numero 2 ***** ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
[Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade butiker (där man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller en del bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. /Per Eric -- ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo?
daje, allora sì. Ti ho inviato in privato mio nummero. Magari si aggiunge qualcun‘altro? sent from a phone > On 17 Jul 2024, at 14:18, Rino Nucara wrote: > > > scusatemi! > Ho sbagliato mese! > il 19 ed il 23 luglio (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. > Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P > ) > >> On 17/07/24 11:24, Rino Nucara wrote: >> Ciao a tutti! >> il 19 ed il 23 agosto (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. >> Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma >> ;-P ) >> >> Rino >> > ___ > Talk-it-lazio mailing list > Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo?
scusatemi! Ho sbagliato mese! il 19 ed il 23 *luglio* (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) On 17/07/24 11:24, Rino Nucara wrote: Ciao a tutti! il 19 ed il 23 agosto (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) Rino ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
Re: [Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo?
Ciao Rino, ho fatto passare questa email manualmente (generalmente possono scrivere solo gli iscritti alla lista, e il resto è quasi sempre spam, ma in questo caso mi sembrava di no ;-) ). Se vuoi continuare a scriverci sarebbe meglio che ti iscrivessi perché non posso garantire di gestire le mail non autorizzate sempre in tempo. Per queste date non ti dire con certezza, suggerisco di inviare una promemoria quando si avvicina la data, ma in generale sono favorevole e interessato. Saluti Martin ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
[Talk-it-lazio] rimappiamo?
Ciao a tutti! il 19 ed il 23 agosto (mattina o pomeriggio) sono a Roma. Se qualcuno vuole, possiamo riprendere a mappare (qualsiasi parte di Roma ;-P ) Rino ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
[talk-au] Tourist routes in ACT - do they still exist?
I posted this recently to the Oceania forum, but haven’t had a reply yet. Does anyone here know the status of ACT tourist routes? ——— I was about to start adding Tourist Route 5 in the ACT after a recent trip. Tourist Route 6 is already in OSM - but I noticed that this is being removed, as according to this document (linked to from one of the changesets) it no longer exists. https://www.cityservices.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/1378528/Municipal-Infrastructure-Standards-12-Guide-Signs-1-1.pdf - page 35: “Tourist Drives routes are no longer signed within the ACT” I have no idea about the status of Route 6, but Route 5 still seems to be well signposted. Should I add Route 5 based on the signs, or is this route being decommissioned? If Route 6 has gone, is it safe to remove the relation for this route? Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Jag har inget svar, men jag rekommenderar att fråga på community sidan. Där hittar man de flest aktiva OSM:are. /Markku Den 2024-07-15 kl. 18:22, skrev Snusmumriken via Talk-se: Har inget direkt svar men tänker att Sverige nog inte är unikt med obemannade butiker. BankId-biten finns säkert bara i Sverige, men andra länder har andra sätt att identifiera kunden. Kanske lönt att fråga i OSM-talk mailing-listan om någon redan kommit på en bra lösning. On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 17:59 +0200, Per Eric Rosén via Talk-se wrote: Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade butiker (där man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller en del bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. /Per Eric -- ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Måste korrigera mig själv. OSM-tagging är förstås den mest lämpade mailing listan. On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 18:22 +0200, Snusmumriken via Talk-se wrote: > Har inget direkt svar men tänker att Sverige nog inte är unikt med > obemannade butiker. BankId-biten finns säkert bara i Sverige, men > andra > länder har andra sätt att identifiera kunden. Kanske lönt att fråga i > OSM-talk mailing-listan om någon redan kommit på en bra lösning. > > On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 17:59 +0200, Per Eric Rosén via Talk-se wrote: > > Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade > > butiker > > (där > > man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men > > tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller > > en > > del > > bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. > > > > /Per Eric > > -- > > ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ > > / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875 > > ___ > > Talk-se mailing list > > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Har inget direkt svar men tänker att Sverige nog inte är unikt med obemannade butiker. BankId-biten finns säkert bara i Sverige, men andra länder har andra sätt att identifiera kunden. Kanske lönt att fråga i OSM-talk mailing-listan om någon redan kommit på en bra lösning. On Mon, 2024-07-15 at 17:59 +0200, Per Eric Rosén via Talk-se wrote: > Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade butiker > (där > man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men > tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller en > del > bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. > > /Per Eric > -- > ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ > / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875 > _______ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se _______ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-se] delvis obemannade butiker
Hittar inte så mycket i wiki:n; hur har ni taggat obemannade butiker (där man kommer in med BankID)? Och när det är delvis bemannat, men tillgängligt på övriga tider med självservice (vilket även gäller en del bibliotek)? Just lagt in en sådan butik i Skaulo, N om Gällivare. /Per Eric -- ^): Per Eric Rosén p...@foreningsteknik.se https://rosnix.net/~per/ / GPG 7CE4 3D3B EDC9 4445 2664 EBB7 70C6 DEA9 B320 F875___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-bd] Mapping camps Cox's Bazar
Dear OSMers in Bangladesh, It's always a pleasure to write to you! We have just published a mapping project on the HOT Tasking Manager covering a part of the refugee camp in Cox's Bazar district. The camps were mapped in 2017 & 2018, and there was quite some change since then. The team of Médecins Sans Frontières/Doctors Without Borders working in the camps was thus asking if we could help updating them on OpenStreetMap, hence we created the project on the HOT Tasking Manager. Since this is updating the map we welcome all intermediate/advanced mappers to contribute. You can contribute via here: #17166: Missing Maps: Camp 14 & 15, Kutupalong, Bangladesh - HOT Tasking Manager (hotosm.org) <https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/17166> Please do not hesitate if you have questions are suggestions for improvement. Best wishes, Jorieke ___ Talk-bd mailing list Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd
Re: [talk-au] Checking on site relation
On 15/7/24 12:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 14:58, Alex Sims wrote: At the moment the relation is a collection of nodes, but really they are areas, possibly not well defined, but certainly large enough to put a tent up in. I’d be changing the nodes to areas which would make sense and then a multipolygon to join them all together. Thanks, Alex I thought about areas as well, but they aren't defined, so thought that may be messy? & will an MP work when the 4 sites are spread over several km? On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 18:09, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: This collection looks to be operated by the same firm .. but each site has a different name ... and different facilities... So I'd delete the site relation, put the operator tags on each campsite. Yes, but while each individual site has its own name, the 4 of them together make up "Wee Jasper Campground", so that should be shown somewhere, shouldn't it? I think that the 4 together make up[ the 'Wee Jasper CampgroundS' ... Quote "There are few places left as naturally and untouched as Reflections Wee Jasper campgrounds" .. Yes I know they use "Wee Jasper Campground" as well ... but logic suggests campgrounds as there are more than one campground, the collection is geographic and administrative. The NSW state government calls them 'Wee Jasper Reserves' https://www.nsw.gov.au/visiting-and-exploring-nsw/locations-and-attractions/wee-jasper-reserves I do think these are council properties with a 'commercial' interest handling it for the local council.. thus an operator. By using the tag 'name' in the relation the individual member get that name .. but thye each already have a name .. catch 22. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Checking on site relation
On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 14:58, Alex Sims wrote: > At the moment the relation is a collection of nodes, but really they are > areas, possibly not well defined, but certainly large enough to put a tent > up in. I’d be changing the nodes to areas which would make sense and then a > multipolygon to join them all together. > Thanks, Alex I thought about areas as well, but they aren't defined, so thought that may be messy? & will an MP work when the 4 sites are spread over several km? On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 18:09, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > This collection looks to be operated by the same firm .. but each site has > a different name ... and different facilities... > > So I'd delete the site relation, put the operator tags on each campsite. > Yes, but while each individual site has its own name, the 4 of them together make up "Wee Jasper Campground", so that should be shown somewhere, shouldn't it? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 729 04/07/2024-10/07/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 729 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17344/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #729 04/07/2024-10/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 729, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17344 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #729 04/07/2024-10/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 729, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17344 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Checking on site relation
This collection looks to be operated by the same firm .. but each site has a different name ... and different facilities... See https://reflectionsholidays.com.au/parks/wee-jasper/accommodation/?type=unpowered-sites And https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1811175182 So I'd delete the site relation, put the operator tags on each campsite. Probably a web tag to the individual campsites - eg https://reflectionsholidays.com.au/parks/wee-jasper/accommodation/fitzpatrick-trackhead-reserve/ On 14/7/24 14:58, Alex Sims wrote: I’m not an expert but I had a look at the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:site#Alternatives and it points to a multipolygon relation of a series of “outer” elements. At the moment the relation is a collection of nodes, but really they are areas, possibly not well defined, but certainly large enough to put a tent up in. I’d be changing the nodes to areas which would make sense and then a multipolygon to join them all together. I note also that there is poor downstream support for a “site” relation. Alex *From: *Graeme Fitzpatrick *Date: *Sunday, 14 July 2024 at 12:55 pm *To: *OSM-Au *Subject: *[talk-au] Checking on site relation Could one of our relation experts please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/17833891#map=13/-35.1636/148.6804 to see if I've done it properly? It relates to https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4266915 where 4 separately named campgrounds are all linked together under 1 overall name. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Checking on site relation
I’m not an expert but I had a look at the wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:site#Alternatives and it points to a multipolygon relation of a series of “outer” elements. At the moment the relation is a collection of nodes, but really they are areas, possibly not well defined, but certainly large enough to put a tent up in. I’d be changing the nodes to areas which would make sense and then a multipolygon to join them all together. I note also that there is poor downstream support for a “site” relation. Alex From: Graeme Fitzpatrick Date: Sunday, 14 July 2024 at 12:55 pm To: OSM-Au Subject: [talk-au] Checking on site relation Could one of our relation experts please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/17833891#map=13/-35.1636/148.6804 to see if I've done it properly? It relates to https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4266915 where 4 separately named campgrounds are all linked together under 1 overall name. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Checking on site relation
Could one of our relation experts please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/17833891#map=13/-35.1636/148.6804 to see if I've done it properly? It relates to https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4266915 where 4 separately named campgrounds are all linked together under 1 overall name. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2024 updates, SotM 2025 call for venue
Hello OSM Community, (Apologies same messages, previous formatting issue fixed) Here are some updates and reminders related to SotM 2024 that you should not miss: the programme is ready [1], tickets are on sale now [1], and the call for posters has also opened [2]. The call for the SotM 2025 venue is still open [3]. 1. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/participating-in-sotm-2024-programme-and-tickets/ 2. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/sotm-2024-call-for-posters/ 3. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2025/Call_for_venues Best, Enock for SotM WG On 11.07.24 08:55, Enock Seth Nyamador via talk wrote: * Hello OSM Community, Here are some updates and reminders related to SotM 2024 that you should not miss: the programme is ready [1], tickets are on sale now [1], and the call for posters has also opened [2]. The call for the SotM 2025 venue is still open [3]. 1. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/participating-in-sotm-2024-programme-and-tickets/2. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/sotm-2024-call-for-posters/3. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2025/Call_for_venues Best,Enock for SotM WG * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] SotM 2024 updates, SotM 2025 call for venue
* Hello OSM Community, Here are some updates and reminders related to SotM 2024 that you should not miss: the programme is ready [1], tickets are on sale now [1], and the call for posters has also opened [2]. The call for the SotM 2025 venue is still open [3]. 1. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/participating-in-sotm-2024-programme-and-tickets/2. https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2024/07/08/sotm-2024-call-for-posters/3. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2025/Call_for_venues Best,Enock for SotM WG * ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] tuiles abhérentes
These are left-overs from a major vandalism attack on OSM. Should disappear over time, when CyclOSM updates the tiles. Ce sont les restes d’une attaque de vandalisme majeure contre OSM. Doit disparaître avec le temps, lorsque CyclOSM met à jour les tuiles. See: https://en.osm.town/@osm_tech/112643613089350400 voschix (Padoue, Italie) On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 13:40, Hélène PETIT wrote: > Salut ! > en ce moment, si je regarde > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/43.8665/1.8124 > avec le fond de carte CyclOSM > > il ya des tuiles incrustées avec des routes ajoutées > et des noms en anglais ... > > le fond de carte standard est normal. > on voit bien la différence. > > A plus, > Hélène > > > _______ > Talk-fr mailing list > Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr > ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] tuiles abhérentes
Salut ! en ce moment, si je regarde https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/43.8665/1.8124 avec le fond de carte CyclOSM il ya des tuiles incrustées avec des routes ajoutées et des noms en anglais ... le fond de carte standard est normal. on voit bien la différence. A plus, Hélène ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Maintenance Today - 10 July 2024
OpenStreetMap, The OpenStreetMap.org website and mapping API will be read-only / partially unavailable today, 10 July 2024, from 21:00 to 22:00 (GMT/UTC) due to essential server maintenance. Announcement: https://en.osm.town/@osm_tech/112761707092634174 https://x.com/OSM_Tech/status/1810983831463211470 Sorry about the short notice. Follow us for updates. Kind regards, Grant Part of OpenStreetMap Operations Team ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Requêtes Overpass pour les cheminements piétons
On Sat, 15 Jun 2024, Francois Gouget wrote: [...] > Du coup j'ai écrit quelques requêtes Overpass et je me dis que cela > pourrait intéresser d'autres contributeurs, pas qu'à Paris d'ailleurs. > Et puis tout corriger va quand même représenter pas mal de travail donc > autant que tout le monde puisse participer. J'ai donc décidé de les > partager via ma page de profil : > Tous les passages piétons avec crossing=b ont déjà été corrigés ! C'est super. Bon, j'ai ajouté d'autres requêtes pour la voirie et les cheminements piétons mais aussi pour le métro et les pipelines. Pour chaque cas j'ai essayé de documenter la nature du problème, comment le corriger et les points auxquels faire attention. C'est toujours sur ma page de profil : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/fgouget Voirie -- * Visualisation de la position des lampadaires Pour voir où il en manque. * Voies non éclairées et lit atypiques En ville la plupart des voies sont éclairées. Où sont les exceptions et les lit erronés ? * Voies souterraines ni toujours éclairées, ni éclairées à la demande Typiquement elles ont lit=yes au lieu de lit=24/7. Cheminements piétons * Visualisation des chemins piétons atypiques Ni trottoir, ni passage piéton, îlot, etc. Cela correspond-t-il à votre connaissance du terrain ? * Nœud highway=crossing sur chemin piéton Le chemin piéton devrait généralement être scindé pour avoir une partie footway=crossing. * Intersections entre chemin piéton et rue Même chose mais sans-même le nœud highway=crossing. * Feu tricolore fusionné avec le passage piéton Les voitures sont sensées s'arrêter avant le passage piéton, pas au milieu (même si des fois on peut se poser la question ;-). * Passages piétons sans type Passages piétons où il manque crossing=* ce qui fait que l'on ne sait pas s'il y a un feu piéton. * Passages piétons avec une mauvaise valeur pour crossing, aka “Crossing Bad” Valeurs de crossing anormales (comme pavement) ou obsolètes. * Trottoirs qui forment une boucle * Trottoirs qui devraient probablement être scindés Les trottoirs qui sont trop longs ou forment une boucle sont très gènants car un arpenteur ne peut pas les englober dans leur totalité et ne peut donc pas positionner lit et surface. Métro - * Métros en surface et aériens Permet de vérifier que layer est correct (contrairement aux voies de la place de la République) et d'identifier d'un coup d'oeil les ateliers de maintenance). Pipelines - * Champ location des bornes de pipelines Plusieurs valeurs farfelues comme location=underground pour des marker=aerial ;-) * Champ utility des bornes de pipelines Beaucoup de confusion entre utility et substance. -- Francois Gouget http://fgouget.free.fr/ A polar bear is a cartesian bear after a coordinate transform. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 728 27/06/2024-03/07/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 728 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17334/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #728 27/06/2024-03/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 728, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17334 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #728 27/06/2024-03/07/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 728, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17334 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 178, Issue 1
Key:cyclestreet (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cyclestreet) verkar vara till för precis denna typ av gator. Och även om skylten säkert är vanligast i Stockholm, har jag även sett den i andra delar av landet. Originalmeddelande Den 4 juli 2024 13:01, skrev: > Send Talk-se mailing list submissions to talk-se@openstreetmap.org To > subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se or, via email, send a > message with subject or body 'help' to talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org You > can reach the person managing the list at talk-se-ow...@openstreetmap.org > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of Talk-se digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Ny skylt (Snusmumriken) 2. > Re: Ny skylt (Jesper Falk) 3. Re: Ny skylt (Peter Svensson) 4. Re: Ny skylt > (Snusmumriken) > -- > Message: 1 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 11:43:37 +0200 From: Snusmumriken To: > talk-se@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-se] Ny skylt Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" R?kade p? en, f?r mig, helt ny > skylt https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg Detta ledde till tv? funderingar > - ?r detta ett Stockholmsp?hitt eller finns de ?ven i resten av landet? - > Borde det p?verka taggningen p? n?got s?tt? Gatan ?r taggad som > hw=residential f?r tillf?llet. -- Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 11:54:15 +0200 From: Jesper Falk To: OpenStreetMap > Sverige mailinglista Subject: Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Det ?r v?l relativt nyinf?rda av > Transportstyrelsen med best?mmelser f?r bilar/cyklar som delar k?rbana. S? > kallad Cykelgata. Stockholm var snabba med att inf?ra dem, oklart om n?gon > annan kommun har gjort det i landet dock. > https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ > On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 at 11:48, Snusmumriken via Talk-se wrote: > R?kade p? en, > f?r mig, helt ny skylt > https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg > > Detta > ledde till tv? funderingar > - ?r detta ett Stockholmsp?hitt eller finns de > ?ven i resten av landet? > - Borde det p?verka taggningen p? n?got s?tt? > Gatan ?r taggad som > hw=residential f?r tillf?llet. > > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 > 11:57:43 +0200 From: Peter Svensson To: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista > Subject: Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="utf-8" Cykelgata. > https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ > Det ?r en relativt ny v?gtyp. Mvh Den tors 4 juli 2024 11:47Snusmumriken via > Talk-se skrev: > R?kade p? en, f?r mig, helt ny skylt > > https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg > > Detta ledde till tv? funderingar > > - ?r detta ett Stockholmsp?hitt eller finns de ?ven i resten av landet? > - > Borde det p?verka taggningen p? n?got s?tt? Gatan ?r taggad som > > hw=residential f?r tillf?llet. > > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 > 12:11:25 +0200 From: Snusmumriken To: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista > Subject: Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 11:54 +0200, Jesper Falk wrote: > Det > ?r v?l relativt nyinf?rda av Transportstyrelsen med best?mmelser > f?r > bilar/cyklar som delar k?rbana. S? kallad Cykelgata. Stockholm > var snabba > med att inf?ra dem, oklart om n?gon annan kommun har gjort > det i landet > dock. > > > https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ > Tack f?r l?nken. S? som jag tolkar reglerna f?r en cykelgata s? verkar > hw=residential vara det b?sta valet. -- Subject: > Digest Footer ___ Talk-se mailing > list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > -- End of Talk-se Digest, Vol 178, Issue 1 > ***___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt
On Thu, 2024-07-04 at 11:54 +0200, Jesper Falk wrote: > Det är väl relativt nyinförda av Transportstyrelsen med bestämmelser > för bilar/cyklar som delar körbana. Så kallad Cykelgata. Stockholm > var snabba med att införa dem, oklart om någon annan kommun har gjort > det i landet dock. > > https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ Tack för länken. Så som jag tolkar reglerna för en cykelgata så verkar hw=residential vara det bästa valet. ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt
Cykelgata. https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ Det är en relativt ny vägtyp. Mvh Den tors 4 juli 2024 11:47Snusmumriken via Talk-se < talk-se@openstreetmap.org> skrev: > Råkade på en, för mig, helt ny skylt > https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg > > Detta ledde till två funderingar > - Är detta ett Stockholmspåhitt eller finns de även i resten av landet? > - Borde det påverka taggningen på något sätt? Gatan är taggad som > hw=residential för tillfället. > > _______ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > _______ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Ny skylt
Det är väl relativt nyinförda av Transportstyrelsen med bestämmelser för bilar/cyklar som delar körbana. Så kallad Cykelgata. Stockholm var snabba med att införa dem, oklart om någon annan kommun har gjort det i landet dock. https://www.transportstyrelsen.se/sv/vagtrafik/trafikregler/Generella-trafikregler/Gagata-cykelgata-och-gangfartsomrade/ On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 at 11:48, Snusmumriken via Talk-se < talk-se@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Råkade på en, för mig, helt ny skylt > https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg > > Detta ledde till två funderingar > - Är detta ett Stockholmspåhitt eller finns de även i resten av landet? > - Borde det påverka taggningen på något sätt? Gatan är taggad som > hw=residential för tillfället. > > _______ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > _______ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-se] Ny skylt
Råkade på en, för mig, helt ny skylt https://pasteboard.co/GetOu150sfoH.jpg Detta ledde till två funderingar - Är detta ett Stockholmspåhitt eller finns de även i resten av landet? - Borde det påverka taggningen på något sätt? Gatan är taggad som hw=residential för tillfället. ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [OSM-talk] WaterwayMap.org is really going downhill
Ages ago I included ditches, but so many were in loops, so I excluded them. I think the OSM wiki says they should be mapped on the direction of flow. However I'm not sure that's how OSMers have been doing it. However, I can add a map view which includes ditches, and we can see what it looks like. Can you open an issue on GitHub so I don't forget? I'm about to be AFK for a little bit. On Mi, 03 Jul 2024 1:01 +02:00, Clifford Snow wrote: > Thanks for reminding me about your waterway map. There are a bunch of > streams that I need to fix. > > Could you help me with one issue I have? When a stream connects to a > waterway=ditch, waterway map doesn't accept that was a continuation. > Where I live, in a rural agricultural area, it is common for streams to > in a ditch. For example, see > https://waterwaymap.org/#tiles=planet-grouped-ends=15.19/48.514461/-122.354132 > > where the stream connects to a ditch, then flows into the Samish River. > Can the program accept a ditch as a continuation? > > Thanks, > Clifford > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:07 AM Amanda McCann wrote: >> [WaterwayMap.org](https://waterwaymap.org/), shows how rivers & streams are >> connected in OSM. It's proven pretty popular with mappers. It's been pretty >> undirected from the start, and I'm happy to say it's really going downhill >> now. >> >> Previously waterways were joined together purely based on topology, ignoring >> direction. River bifurcations occur more often than I thought, and connect >> large water systems together. e.g. [casiquiare >> canal](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/55) or the >> [Garonne/Ebro](https://en.osm.town/deck/@amapanda/112240136848653730) >> (causing [tagging >> questions](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-there-a-common-tag-for-underground-infiltrated-watercourses/111558)). >> >> So, I've added a new calculation which groups ways together **based on the >> direction they flow**, and which “end point” they flow into. All rivers & >> streams which flow into the same river mouth will get coloured the same. >> >> ## [Explore the Downhill Waterway >> Map](https://waterwaymap.org/#tiles=planet-grouped-ends) _(or select >> “Natural Waterways (downhills)” from the Settings)_ >> >> It's got some bugs. (but they're cute aquatic bugs) >> >> When a river splits, the total upstream is split equally, and mapping >> mistakes can cause a lot of upstream value to stop some random field >> somewhere. All river segments upstream can be assigned to that end point, >> and appear split off from other parts of the river downstream. It's already >> been >> [seen](https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/413070502580453387/1257454307977203773) >> in the [Murray-Darling river system in >> Australia](https://waterwaymap.org/#map=5.64/-31.123/145.889=planet-grouped-ends=500..inf). >> Use the [Waterway Ends map](https://waterwaymap.org/ends) (prev. on [forum >> ](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/the-end-of-waterway-map/108632)) to >> find where it ends. I hope that people will fix up these mapping mistakes, >> and this will happen much less. Perhaps I can improve this by looking at the >> `name` of the waterway. >> >> The [software which converts the geojson to vector >> tiles](https://github.com/felt/tippecanoe) has to drop some line segments, >> causing gaps at certain zoom levels. Could this type of map be better with >> raster tiles? >> >> I'll be talking about WaterwayMap.org at [SotM Europe >> 2024](https://stateofthemap.eu/) in Łódź, Poland on [Sun. >> 10:00am](https://cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state-of-the-map-europe-2024/talk/K8LF7U/). >> if you're around say hi. (But first, the Alps are calling… 量️) >> >> >> # See also >> >> * [News about >> WaterwayMap.org](https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg) can be >> found on Mastodon/Fediverse (incl. [Atom/RSS >> feed](https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg.rss)): >> * This code is on Github: >> [`amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org`](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org). >> [New issue >> reports](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/new) are >> welcome. >> * The programme which generates it is >> [`osm-lump-ways`](https://github.com/amandasaurus/osm-lump-ways) >> * [WaterwayMap on the OSM >> Forum](https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/waterwaymaporg) >> * [Waterway Loops](https://waterwaymap.org/loops) ([forum >> ](https://community.open
Re: [OSM-talk] WaterwayMap.org is really going downhill
Thanks for reminding me about your waterway map. There are a bunch of streams that I need to fix. Could you help me with one issue I have? When a stream connects to a waterway=ditch, waterway map doesn't accept that was a continuation. Where I live, in a rural agricultural area, it is common for streams to in a ditch. For example, see https://waterwaymap.org/#tiles=planet-grouped-ends=15.19/48.514461/-122.354132 where the stream connects to a ditch, then flows into the Samish River. Can the program accept a ditch as a continuation? Thanks, Clifford On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:07 AM Amanda McCann wrote: > [WaterwayMap.org](https://waterwaymap.org/), shows how rivers & streams > are connected in OSM. It's proven pretty popular with mappers. It's been > pretty undirected from the start, and I'm happy to say it's really going > downhill now. > > Previously waterways were joined together purely based on topology, > ignoring direction. River bifurcations occur more often than I thought, and > connect large water systems together. e.g. [casiquiare canal]( > https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/55) or the > [Garonne/Ebro](https://en.osm.town/deck/@amapanda/112240136848653730) > (causing [tagging questions]( > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-there-a-common-tag-for-underground-infiltrated-watercourses/111558) > ). > > So, I've added a new calculation which groups ways together **based on the > direction they flow**, and which “end point” they flow into. All rivers & > streams which flow into the same river mouth will get coloured the same. > > ## [Explore the Downhill Waterway Map]( > https://waterwaymap.org/#tiles=planet-grouped-ends) _(or select “Natural > Waterways (downhills)” from the Settings)_ > > It's got some bugs. (but they're cute aquatic bugs) > > When a river splits, the total upstream is split equally, and mapping > mistakes can cause a lot of upstream value to stop some random field > somewhere. All river segments upstream can be assigned to that end point, > and appear split off from other parts of the river downstream. It's already > been [seen]( > https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/413070502580453387/1257454307977203773) > in the [Murray-Darling river system in Australia]( > https://waterwaymap.org/#map=5.64/-31.123/145.889=planet-grouped-ends=500..inf). > Use the [Waterway Ends map](https://waterwaymap.org/ends) (prev. on > [forum ]( > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/the-end-of-waterway-map/108632)) to > find where it ends. I hope that people will fix up these mapping mistakes, > and this will happen much less. Perhaps I can improve this by looking at > the `name` of the waterway. > > The [software which converts the geojson to vector tiles]( > https://github.com/felt/tippecanoe) has to drop some line segments, > causing gaps at certain zoom levels. Could this type of map be better with > raster tiles? > > I'll be talking about WaterwayMap.org at [SotM Europe 2024]( > https://stateofthemap.eu/) in Łódź, Poland on [Sun. 10:00am]( > https://cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state-of-the-map-europe-2024/talk/K8LF7U/). > if you're around say hi. (But first, the Alps are calling… 量️) > > > # See also > > * [News about WaterwayMap.org]( > https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg) can be found on > Mastodon/Fediverse (incl. [Atom/RSS feed]( > https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg.rss)): > * This code is on Github: [`amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org`]( > https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org). [New issue reports]( > https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/new) are welcome. > * The programme which generates it is [`osm-lump-ways`]( > https://github.com/amandasaurus/osm-lump-ways) > * [WaterwayMap on the OSM Forum]( > https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/waterwaymaporg) > * [Waterway Loops](https://waterwaymap.org/loops) ([forum ]( > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/the-wonders-of-early-medieval-fore-abbey-and-osm-river-topology-today-i-e-waterwaymap-org-is-going-around-in-circles/107497)) > which show probably tagging mistakes. > > ⓐⓜⓐⓝⓓⓐ > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- @osm_washington www.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] WaterwayMap.org is really going downhill
[WaterwayMap.org](https://waterwaymap.org/), shows how rivers & streams are connected in OSM. It's proven pretty popular with mappers. It's been pretty undirected from the start, and I'm happy to say it's really going downhill now. Previously waterways were joined together purely based on topology, ignoring direction. River bifurcations occur more often than I thought, and connect large water systems together. e.g. [casiquiare canal](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/55) or the [Garonne/Ebro](https://en.osm.town/deck/@amapanda/112240136848653730) (causing [tagging questions](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/is-there-a-common-tag-for-underground-infiltrated-watercourses/111558)). So, I've added a new calculation which groups ways together **based on the direction they flow**, and which “end point” they flow into. All rivers & streams which flow into the same river mouth will get coloured the same. ## [Explore the Downhill Waterway Map](https://waterwaymap.org/#tiles=planet-grouped-ends) _(or select “Natural Waterways (downhills)” from the Settings)_ It's got some bugs. (but they're cute aquatic bugs) When a river splits, the total upstream is split equally, and mapping mistakes can cause a lot of upstream value to stop some random field somewhere. All river segments upstream can be assigned to that end point, and appear split off from other parts of the river downstream. It's already been [seen](https://discord.com/channels/413070382636072960/413070502580453387/1257454307977203773) in the [Murray-Darling river system in Australia](https://waterwaymap.org/#map=5.64/-31.123/145.889=planet-grouped-ends=500..inf). Use the [Waterway Ends map](https://waterwaymap.org/ends) (prev. on [forum ](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/the-end-of-waterway-map/108632)) to find where it ends. I hope that people will fix up these mapping mistakes, and this will happen much less. Perhaps I can improve this by looking at the `name` of the waterway. The [software which converts the geojson to vector tiles](https://github.com/felt/tippecanoe) has to drop some line segments, causing gaps at certain zoom levels. Could this type of map be better with raster tiles? I'll be talking about WaterwayMap.org at [SotM Europe 2024](https://stateofthemap.eu/) in Łódź, Poland on [Sun. 10:00am](https://cfp.openstreetmap.org.pl/state-of-the-map-europe-2024/talk/K8LF7U/). if you're around say hi. (But first, the Alps are calling… 量️) # See also * [News about WaterwayMap.org](https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg) can be found on Mastodon/Fediverse (incl. [Atom/RSS feed](https://en.osm.town/@amapanda/tagged/WaterwayMapOrg.rss)): * This code is on Github: [`amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org`](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org). [New issue reports](https://github.com/amandasaurus/waterwaymap.org/issues/new) are welcome. * The programme which generates it is [`osm-lump-ways`](https://github.com/amandasaurus/osm-lump-ways) * [WaterwayMap on the OSM Forum](https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/waterwaymaporg) * [Waterway Loops](https://waterwaymap.org/loops) ([forum ](https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/the-wonders-of-early-medieval-fore-abbey-and-osm-river-topology-today-i-e-waterwaymap-org-is-going-around-in-circles/107497)) which show probably tagging mistakes. ⓐⓜⓐⓝⓓⓐ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-au] Improperly mapped beach names
Late last, then early this year, it was spotted that people were adding beach names to OSM, apparently by copying them from an unauthorised source. After a *lot* of reverting, almost all of the improperly copied beach names should now be gone, although some will still be there, as those users have since deleted their accounts. As always though, reversions of this size will have also caused some collateral damage, so if you spot any, I’d ask if you could please fix it? >From looking at when they were created, there were all bursts done in June then Dec 21; May, Aug & Dec 22; then May & Sep 23, so they may start up again over the next few months? If you spot them reappearing, please raise a ticket to d...@osmfoundation.org ASAP. Thanks! Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 727 20/06/2024-26/06/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 727 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17326/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #727 20/06/2024-26/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 727, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17326 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #727 20/06/2024-26/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 727, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17326 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap 20th anniversary party
Can anyone believe it’s been 20 years? Join your fellow mappers and let’s celebrate the 20th anniversary of OpenStreetMap: Where: Doggett's Coat & Badge, London, SE1 9UD, England https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/77739560 https://osm.org/go/euu4oeybs?m= Approx: 51.50841 -0.10481 ///press.leaned.caked When: 12pm onwards, August 10th, 2024 Please feel free to forward this, add it to the wiki, post it on social media… See you there! Best Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-it-lazio] Fwd: [Talk-it] Evento al Colosseo
sent from a phone Begin forwarded message: > From: Dario Crespi > Date: 26 June 2024 at 10:22:07 CEST > To: openstreetmap list - italiano > Subject: [Talk-it] Evento al Colosseo > Reply-To: openstreetmap list - italiano > > > Ciao a tutti (oggi scrivo col cappello di Wikimedia Italia). > > Vi scrivo per invitarvi a partecipare a questo evento che si terrà la mattina > di sabato 6 luglio a Roma, presso il Parco archeologico del Colosseo: > https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Raduni/Parco_archeologico_del_Colosseo_luglio_2024 > > È principalmente un editathon su Wikipedia, ma credo che non mancheranno le > possibilità di mappatura, anche perché ai partecipanti verrà rilasciato un > biglietto gratuito di accesso all'area dei Fori imperiali per il pomeriggio. > > Ci tenevo anche a informarvi che Astrid d'Eredità, che lavora nel settore > comunicazione del Parco archeologico ed è nostra referente per questa > attività, mi ha chiesto di ringraziare tutti gli OSMer che hanno lavorato e > continuano a lavorare sui dati dell'area archeologica. > > Se avete domande o consigli, non esitate a scrivermi! > > Buona giornata, > > > > Dario > > ___ > Talk-it mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it-lazio mailing list Talk-it-lazio@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-lazio
[talk-au] Tracks deleted near Kurnell, Botany Bay
Do we have anybody near Kurnell, Botany Bay? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/153180718 (by a new user with the very encouraging name of Voodoo Ranger!) has just deleted some of the tracks there https://osmcha.org/changesets/153180718?filters=%7B%22date__gte%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22%22%7D%5D%2C%22ids%22%3A%5B%7B%22label%22%3A%22153180718%22%2C%22value%22%3A%22153180718%22%7D%5D%7D with a CC "Doesn't align with current Park management and existing track" I'm guessing it's somebody else from NPWS? Tracks are still visible on 2020 - 2022 imagery, so It would be great if anybody was able to check & confirm if they are open / closed, visible or not? Will also post to Oceania forum & AU list. Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 726 13/06/2024-19/06/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 726 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17316/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #726 13/06/2024-19/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 726, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17316 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #726 13/06/2024-19/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 726, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17316 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-bd] OSMBD Community Working Group Meeting Updates
We had a productive OSMBD Community Working Group meeting on June 22, 2024, chaired by Sawan Shariar <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/11697913410/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R>, hosted by Mehedi Hasan Ovi <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/16717932311/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R> and notetaked by Aminul Islam <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/19494216092/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R>. We began with introductions and an icebreaker about Eid celebrations. Shoutouts were given to Sarafat Islam Sohan <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/100012077149537/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R>, Brazil Singh Rittik <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/100010972653430/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R> and Joti Joty Shaha RaDha <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/100022003040179/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R> for their mapping contributions. Key agenda items included updates on the State of the Map Bangladesh and Asia, global mapping initiatives, and ways to enhance community engagement. Highlights included discussing local team meetups and knocking active members for better participation. The next meeting will feature Hasibul Ahmed Polok in the Community Spotlight, with Rifah Tasfia <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/100016364206305/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R> hosting and Faiza Waziha <https://www.facebook.com/groups/152627941462625/user/18181737686/?__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=-]K-R> as the notetaker. Let's all subscribe to TalkBD and stay active in the OSMBD Community Working Group! Meeting minutes are here, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f96aJCito1d5ayhQMCgCiETp3BVGg74bCJeBiWVUO8Q/edit?usp=sharing #OSMBD <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/osmbd?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=*NK-R> #OSMBD_CWG <https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/osmbd_cwg?__eep__=6&__cft__[0]=AZW3DEMjvU5fEf-9uJlk_s6GegD23y1h0-5bm-91GxlRYj95gBPgdCj5rCmgYKJRnZhMxwbnomaSGijucOWAjmIxta-8QwxR5M049iZmNfysZoIu07wih3CsFUK2MWRikKDUZ5tMQpqGUFIRpAM8x8GR2MymDjPNFBYTG3ozZZG4Bg&__tn__=*NK-R> ___ Talk-bd mailing list Talk-bd@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-bd
[OSM-talk-fr] Mois cartographique dans le cadre d'une résidence Wikimédia
Bonjour, Vous l'avez peut-être vu passer en lisant (très) attentivement le programme du SOTM, pour un an, je suis en "résidence Wikimédia" dans le cadre d'un partenariat entre le Ministère de la recherche et l'enseignement supérieur. Concrètement, je forme sur ces sujets les universitaires, bibliothèques et archives. Plus à la marge, je contribue sur les projets wikimédia (Wikipédia, Wikidata, Commons etc.). Mon objectif est aussi de lever les verrous qui limitent la contribution à ces projets collaboratifs et favoriser les interactions avec d'autres projets libres. OSM par exemple, puisque c'est pas là que j'ai commencé. En juin, j'axe ma résidence sur la cartographie et OSM. Des présentations sont prévues, ainsi que des formations. Mais j'ouvre également la discussion auprès de vous sur ce sujet volontairement large : il y a-t-il des pages Wikipédia qui vous semblent prioritaires ? Des manques flagrants ? Avez-vous identifié des verrous particuliers que je pourrais peut-être lever durant ma résidence ? J'ouvre le sujet ici, mais si vous êtes plus à l'aise avec les échanges sur Wikipédia, le rendez-vous peut être là<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:DMontagne_en_r%C3%A9sidence>. J'ai également une liste de souhaits<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:DMontagne_en_r%C3%A9sidence/Liste_de_souhaits> plus large. Quant au programme, évolutif, de ma résidence vous pouvez le retrouver sur cette page<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Wikifier_la_science/Lyon>. Et je serai aussi au State of the Map (l'URFIST, structure qui m'accueille, est partenaire de l'événement) si vous souhaitez en discuter de vive voix. Bien cordialement, Delphine Montagne Wikimédienne en résidence Suivre le projet Wikifier la science<https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet:Wikifier_la_science/Lyon> S'abonner à la lettre d'information Wikilab<https://lists.wikimedia.fr/subscribe/wikilab?previous_action=info> URFIST de Lyon - Université Lyon 1 Claude Bernard Bibliothèque Universitaire de Sciences 20 avenue Gaston Berger 69100 Villeurbanne ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
Hi Brendan, Thanks for discussion and this sounds completely logical to do as you have suggested and also thank you for updating the Wiki Regards Ewen On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 at 15:29, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Thanks for the conversation. Sounds like the Aussie mappers are in clear > agreement so updated > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels > > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 15:40, Andrew Harvey > wrote: > >> I agree, indeed some are already mapped this way >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7032873 >> >> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 15:20, cleary wrote: >> >>> >>> This was discussed about a decade ago in regard to unincorporated areas >>> in NSW and SA. The prevailing view was that unincorporated areas are local >>> government areas. They usually have a different administrative structure >>> (as distinct from the councils that administer local government in more >>> populated areas) but irrespective of administrative structure, they are >>> still areas which are subject to a form of local governance. An area does >>> not need a council to make it a local government area. >>> >>> "Unincorporated" means that the administrative body is not a legal >>> entity that can enter into contracts/debt etc like a company - usually >>> because the areas have insufficient population to support such >>> administrative structures. However decision making is often delegated to >>> the local level. In NSW, the large western unincorporated area used to be >>> administered by a board - I think it has changed and now has an >>> administrator although, as far as I know, Roads and Maritime Services >>> remains responsible for the roads in the area. Lord Howe Island is an >>> unincorporated area administered by a local board. In recent years, Sydney >>> Harbour (including much of Parramatta RIver) and Botany Bay have been >>> removed from local council controls and are now an unincorporated area of >>> NSW - I am uncertain of the administrative arrangements but I think it was >>> intended that state government authorities or administrators would exercise >>> necessary governance over the Harbour area. >>> >>> For example, if one views NSW Local Government Areas at >>> >>> https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fportal.spatial.nsw.gov.au%2Fserver%2Frest%2Fservices%2FNSW_Administrative_Boundaries_Theme%2FFeatureServer%2F8=sd >>> and then "left click" (or whatever works in your browser) when the >>> cursor is in Sydney Harbour, you will get responses such as >>> "LocalGovernmentArea: UNINCORPORATED - SYDNEY HARBOUR AREA" This URL can >>> be acccessed directly or via the NSW Spatial Services website. >>> >>> Unincorporated areas are local government areas, albeit with a different >>> form of governance. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, at 8:51 AM, Brendan Barnes wrote: >>> > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level >>> > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? >>> > >>> > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas >>> > are administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, >>> > so I'm thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government >>> > authorities. >>> > >>> > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching >>> > the territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. >>> > >>> > >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas >>> > ___ >>> > Talk-au mailing list >>> > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Warm Regards Ewen Hill ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
Thanks for the conversation. Sounds like the Aussie mappers are in clear agreement so updated https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 15:40, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I agree, indeed some are already mapped this way > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7032873 > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 15:20, cleary wrote: > >> >> This was discussed about a decade ago in regard to unincorporated areas >> in NSW and SA. The prevailing view was that unincorporated areas are local >> government areas. They usually have a different administrative structure >> (as distinct from the councils that administer local government in more >> populated areas) but irrespective of administrative structure, they are >> still areas which are subject to a form of local governance. An area does >> not need a council to make it a local government area. >> >> "Unincorporated" means that the administrative body is not a legal entity >> that can enter into contracts/debt etc like a company - usually because the >> areas have insufficient population to support such administrative >> structures. However decision making is often delegated to the local level. >> In NSW, the large western unincorporated area used to be administered by a >> board - I think it has changed and now has an administrator although, as >> far as I know, Roads and Maritime Services remains responsible for the >> roads in the area. Lord Howe Island is an unincorporated area administered >> by a local board. In recent years, Sydney Harbour (including much of >> Parramatta RIver) and Botany Bay have been removed from local council >> controls and are now an unincorporated area of NSW - I am uncertain of the >> administrative arrangements but I think it was intended that state >> government authorities or administrators would exercise necessary >> governance over the Harbour area. >> >> For example, if one views NSW Local Government Areas at >> >> https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fportal.spatial.nsw.gov.au%2Fserver%2Frest%2Fservices%2FNSW_Administrative_Boundaries_Theme%2FFeatureServer%2F8=sd >> and then "left click" (or whatever works in your browser) when the cursor >> is in Sydney Harbour, you will get responses such as "LocalGovernmentArea: >> UNINCORPORATED - SYDNEY HARBOUR AREA" This URL can be acccessed directly >> or via the NSW Spatial Services website. >> >> Unincorporated areas are local government areas, albeit with a different >> form of governance. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, at 8:51 AM, Brendan Barnes wrote: >> > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level >> > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? >> > >> > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas >> > are administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, >> > so I'm thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government >> > authorities. >> > >> > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching >> > the territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. >> > >> > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas >> > ___ >> > Talk-au mailing list >> > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >> ___ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Requêtes Overpass pour les cheminements piétons
On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, Marc_marc via Talk-fr wrote: [...] > Beaau travail mais cela ne fait-il pas un éparpiement avec osmose ? > je trouve pratiqeu d'avoir tout le QA dans un lieu réduit d'endroit > pour éviter d'avoir à ouvrir plein d'outil pour tout vérifieir :) J'adore Osmose mais il y a deux problèmes concernant l'ajout dans Osmose : 1. Certaines requêtes n'ont pas leur place dans Osmose. Par exemple tout ce qui est visualisation vu qu'une minorité des objets visualisés pourraient correspondre à une erreur (voir aucun, cas des lampadaires). Même pour les autres requêtes il faudrait être sûr qu'il n'y a pas trop de faux positifs (en même temps dans Osmose on pourrait probablement faire des filtres plus sophistiqués). 2. Ajouter une nouvelle vérif Osmose est plus compliqué et pour l'instant je n'ai pas le temps de me pencher dessus. Mais je suis d'accord que, si certaines de ces requêtes prouvent leur intérêt, les avoir dans Osmose serait idéal. > j'ai un soucis avec la formulation du premier : > "Passage piéton connecté au milieu d’un chemin piéton au lieu d’être > connecté à une extrémité" > passage piéton = le noeud ? si oui je vois pas ce qui empeche d'être au > milieu d'un way de par 3 points décrivant la traversé Dans le cas de cette requête le passage piéton est du filaire : highway=footway + footway=crossing. Il y a un schéma quelque part qui explique le problème mais je ne le retrouve plus. > Le 15.06.24 à 02:52, Francois Gouget a écrit : > > J'ai utilisé des permalinks comme lien vers les requêtes Overpass mais > > ce faisant je reçois un avertissement comme quoi ils pourraient ne pas > > marcher parce que la requête est longue > > je pense que cela n'a aucun rapport avec le partage de lien > ajouter l'instruction timeout devrait aider les longues requêtes > si le serveur n'est pas trop sous eau. Mes requêtes ont toutes une instruction timeout. Note : je reçois l'avertissement lors de la création du permalien, pas lors de l'exécution de la requête. > > rencontré des problèmes avec le bouton "save on osm.org": il n'a marché > > qu'une fois > > j'ai plein de requête sauvée ainsi sans soucis tu as eu quoi exactement > comme soucis ? Je clique sur le bouton "save on osm.org" et rien ne se passe : le dialogue reste affiché tel quel. J'ai l'impression que la première fois cela marche et qu'après il faudrait que je redémarre le navigateur (j'ai testé avec une session privée mais cela n'a pas marché non plus). -- Francois Gouget http://fgouget.free.fr/ question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-se] Samtal med Läntmäteriet om användning av topowebb och ortofoto
APIer finns redan och används redan idag av folk i till exempel JOSM för ortofoton, även om licensen inte är fri än. API åtkomst är krav från EU. LM har förberett sin IT infrastruktur för ökad belastning. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/om-lantmateriet/press/nyheter/lantmateriets-arbete-mot-oppna-data-i-full-gang/) Ingen risk att det förlängs, LM har redan fått maximal förlängning. (https://www.regeringen.se/contentassets/9bb49451587c4e5d8a783c4be57128f4/undantag-fran-kravet-att-tillgangliggora-sarskilt-vardefulla-dataset-avgiftsfritt.pdf) //Joel Den 2024-06-17 kl. 19:55, skrev Markku Siipola via Talk-se: Som redan sagt kommer öppen data från LM inom en ganska snart tid. Jag ser ingen större nytta med att lägga tid på förhandlingar, som vi får utan förhandlingar några månader senare. Sådan förhandling skulle ha gjorts för flera år sedan, då hade det kanske varit till nytta. Vänligen Markku Den 2024-06-17 kl. 18:28, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: Finns nog en chans at vi inte kommer få API utan måste hosta det själva någonstans, vilket kan ta ett tag antar jag, eller att det blir förlängt att lägga ut data Men topografi 50 är ganska lågupplöst just nu så kan inte se individuella kvarter eller områden så enkelt där Skulle ändå vara bra med ett samtal tycker jag, får vi lite mer tryck på LM och möjlighet till bättre integration för att hjälpa bl.a. OSM Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 On Monday, June 17th, 2024 at 17:49, Joel Grafström wrote: Hej! I fall du inte redan visste det så kommer Lantmäteriet (senast) 10 februari 2025 att släppa detta som öppna data, enligt krav från EU. Så kan du vänta 8 månader så kommer det lösa sig ändå :) Dessutom är topowebb topografi 50 (den som finns i JOSM till exempel) redan öppna data, så fritt fram att plocka namn och dyligt från den. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/topografisk-webbkarta-visning-oversiktlig/) Det som kommer släppas som öppna data i februari är bl.a. adress- och byggnadsdata, info om fastighetsgränser, höjddata, hydrografi, kartor och ortofoton. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/om-lantmateriet/press/nyheter/nytt-regeringsbeslut-kring-oppna-data/) Observera att ortofoton inte är släppta som öppna data än. Vissa använder det ändå, men enligt mig bryter det mot OSMs användarvillkor. Mvh Joel (anv Leojth) Den 2024-06-17 kl. 14:54, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: Hej alla! Har frågat Läntmäteriet om tillstånd att använda deras fastighets/topowebb-karta då vi tidigare fått ett tillstånd att använda ortofoto som en referens, och det skulle hjälpa enormt att mappa byggnader, addresser, namn, berg, m.fl. Då jag inte vet att jag inte kommer kunna ge alla svar så vill jag helst ha med några till något möte med LM om användning av data och vad det innebär. Tänker att vi inte är allt för många men definitivt 2-4 stycken till skulle vara perfekt LMs svar på förfrågan om användning av topowebb som referens Hej, Tack för din förfrågan och ursäkta sen återkoppling. När vi tillhandahåller vår geodata medföljer alltid någon form av villkor. Vissa produkter omfattas av en öppen datalicens, CC0, men många har vi fortfarande våra egna licensvillkor för, se denna länk. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/Villkor-och-avgifter/ och denna länk för att läsa om våra produkter. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/ Vi gör skillnad på vad man får göra som slutanvändare och som vidareförädlare. Ett vanligt slutanvändarvillkor avser endast användning inom en organisation eller användningen av en enskild person. Att sprida informationen vidare omfattas däremot av andra avtal som kan skrivas om man blir en vidareförädlare av Lantmäteriets information. Avtalen som reglerar spridning av information till andra utanför den egna organisationen kallas för följdproduktavtal och skrivs för varje enskild följdprodukt som en vidareförädlare avser tillhandahålla. Vi skulle vilja föreslå ett möte med er efter sommaren för att diskutera igenom vad det är ni vill göra lite mer i detalj. Hör gärna av dig med ett datum som passar dig så kan vi skicka en inbjudan. Med vänliga hälsningar Ingela Kundansvarig, Geodatasupport Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Samtal med Läntmäteriet om användning av topowebb och ortofoto
Som redan sagt kommer öppen data från LM inom en ganska snart tid. Jag ser ingen större nytta med att lägga tid på förhandlingar, som vi får utan förhandlingar några månader senare. Sådan förhandling skulle ha gjorts för flera år sedan, då hade det kanske varit till nytta. Vänligen Markku Den 2024-06-17 kl. 18:28, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: Finns nog en chans at vi inte kommer få API utan måste hosta det själva någonstans, vilket kan ta ett tag antar jag, eller att det blir förlängt att lägga ut data Men topografi 50 är ganska lågupplöst just nu så kan inte se individuella kvarter eller områden så enkelt där Skulle ändå vara bra med ett samtal tycker jag, får vi lite mer tryck på LM och möjlighet till bättre integration för att hjälpa bl.a. OSM Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 On Monday, June 17th, 2024 at 17:49, Joel Grafström wrote: Hej! I fall du inte redan visste det så kommer Lantmäteriet (senast) 10 februari 2025 att släppa detta som öppna data, enligt krav från EU. Så kan du vänta 8 månader så kommer det lösa sig ändå :) Dessutom är topowebb topografi 50 (den som finns i JOSM till exempel) redan öppna data, så fritt fram att plocka namn och dyligt från den. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/topografisk-webbkarta-visning-oversiktlig/) Det som kommer släppas som öppna data i februari är bl.a. adress- och byggnadsdata, info om fastighetsgränser, höjddata, hydrografi, kartor och ortofoton. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/om-lantmateriet/press/nyheter/nytt-regeringsbeslut-kring-oppna-data/) Observera att ortofoton inte är släppta som öppna data än. Vissa använder det ändå, men enligt mig bryter det mot OSMs användarvillkor. Mvh Joel (anv Leojth) Den 2024-06-17 kl. 14:54, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: Hej alla! Har frågat Läntmäteriet om tillstånd att använda deras fastighets/topowebb-karta då vi tidigare fått ett tillstånd att använda ortofoto som en referens, och det skulle hjälpa enormt att mappa byggnader, addresser, namn, berg, m.fl. Då jag inte vet att jag inte kommer kunna ge alla svar så vill jag helst ha med några till något möte med LM om användning av data och vad det innebär. Tänker att vi inte är allt för många men definitivt 2-4 stycken till skulle vara perfekt LMs svar på förfrågan om användning av topowebb som referens Hej, Tack för din förfrågan och ursäkta sen återkoppling. När vi tillhandahåller vår geodata medföljer alltid någon form av villkor. Vissa produkter omfattas av en öppen datalicens, CC0, men många har vi fortfarande våra egna licensvillkor för, se denna länk. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/Villkor-och-avgifter/ och denna länk för att läsa om våra produkter. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/ Vi gör skillnad på vad man får göra som slutanvändare och som vidareförädlare. Ett vanligt slutanvändarvillkor avser endast användning inom en organisation eller användningen av en enskild person. Att sprida informationen vidare omfattas däremot av andra avtal som kan skrivas om man blir en vidareförädlare av Lantmäteriets information. Avtalen som reglerar spridning av information till andra utanför den egna organisationen kallas för följdproduktavtal och skrivs för varje enskild följdprodukt som en vidareförädlare avser tillhandahålla. Vi skulle vilja föreslå ett möte med er efter sommaren för att diskutera igenom vad det är ni vill göra lite mer i detalj. Hör gärna av dig med ett datum som passar dig så kan vi skicka en inbjudan. Med vänliga hälsningar Ingela Kundansvarig, Geodatasupport Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Samtal med Läntmäteriet om användning av topowebb och ortofoto
Finns nog en chans at vi inte kommer få API utan måste hosta det själva någonstans, vilket kan ta ett tag antar jag, eller att det blir förlängt att lägga ut data Men topografi 50 är ganska lågupplöst just nu så kan inte se individuella kvarter eller områden så enkelt där Skulle ändå vara bra med ett samtal tycker jag, får vi lite mer tryck på LM och möjlighet till bättre integration för att hjälpa bl.a. OSM Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 On Monday, June 17th, 2024 at 17:49, Joel Grafström wrote: > Hej! > > I fall du inte redan visste det så kommer Lantmäteriet (senast) 10 februari > 2025 att släppa detta som öppna data, enligt krav från EU. Så kan du vänta 8 > månader så kommer det lösa sig ändå :) > > Dessutom är topowebb topografi 50 (den som finns i JOSM till exempel) redan > öppna data, så fritt fram att plocka namn och dyligt från den. > (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/topografisk-webbkarta-visning-oversiktlig/) > > Det som kommer släppas som öppna data i februari är bl.a. adress- och > byggnadsdata, info om fastighetsgränser, höjddata, hydrografi, kartor och > ortofoton. > (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/om-lantmateriet/press/nyheter/nytt-regeringsbeslut-kring-oppna-data/) > > Observera att ortofoton inte är släppta som öppna data än. Vissa använder det > ändå, men enligt mig bryter det mot OSMs användarvillkor. > > Mvh Joel (anv Leojth) > > Den 2024-06-17 kl. 14:54, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: > >> Hej alla! >> >> Har frågat Läntmäteriet om tillstånd att använda deras >> fastighets/topowebb-karta då vi tidigare fått ett tillstånd att använda >> ortofoto som en referens, och det skulle hjälpa enormt att mappa byggnader, >> addresser, namn, berg, m.fl. >> >> Då jag inte vet att jag inte kommer kunna ge alla svar så vill jag helst ha >> med några till något möte med LM om användning av data och vad det innebär. >> Tänker att vi inte är allt för många men definitivt 2-4 stycken till skulle >> vara perfekt >> >> LMs svar på förfrågan om användning av topowebb som referens >> >>> Hej, >>> >>> Tack för din förfrågan och ursäkta sen återkoppling. När vi tillhandahåller >>> vår geodata medföljer alltid någon form av villkor. Vissa produkter >>> omfattas av en öppen datalicens, CC0, men många har vi fortfarande våra >>> egna licensvillkor för, se denna länk. >>> >>> https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/Villkor-och-avgifter/ >>> >>> och denna länk för att läsa om våra produkter. >>> >>> https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/ >>> >>> Vi gör skillnad på vad man får göra som slutanvändare och som >>> vidareförädlare. >>> >>> Ett vanligt slutanvändarvillkor avser endast användning inom en >>> organisation eller användningen av en enskild person. Att sprida >>> informationen vidare omfattas däremot av andra avtal som kan skrivas om man >>> blir en vidareförädlare av Lantmäteriets information. Avtalen som reglerar >>> spridning av information till andra utanför den egna organisationen kallas >>> för följdproduktavtal och skrivs för varje enskild följdprodukt som en >>> vidareförädlare avser tillhandahålla. >>> >>> Vi skulle vilja föreslå ett möte med er efter sommaren för att diskutera >>> igenom vad det är ni vill göra lite mer i detalj. Hör gärna av dig med ett >>> datum som passar dig så kan vi skicka en inbjudan. >>> >>> Med vänliga hälsningar >>> Ingela Kundansvarig, Geodatasupport >> >> Freya Gustavsson >> 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 >> >> ___ >> Talk-se mailing list >> Talk-se@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 238, Issue 4
unsubscribe On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 4:16 AM wrote: > Send talk mailing list submissions to > talk@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: microsoft/BuildingFootprints (Martin Trautmann) >2. Re: microsoft/BuildingFootprints (Martin Trautmann) >3. weeklyOSM #725 06/06/2024-12/06/2024 (weeklyteam) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 08:04:35 +0200 > From: Martin Trautmann > To: John Whelan , osm > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 14.06.24 03:27, John Whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by at > > least one HOT project. > > > > Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? > > Besser die Finger davon lassen und nur berichten - das passiert gerade > weltweit > > > > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/update-13-06-2024-neue-vandalismuswelle-strassen-kreuz-und-quer-teilweise-namen-geandert/113287 > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20240616/a72f884b/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:52:05 +0200 > From: Martin Trautmann > To: osm > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints > Message-ID: <9dbc06a6-1749-4327-9f49-35032b4a6...@gmx.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 16.06.24 08:04, Martin Trautmann via talk wrote: > > On 14.06.24 03:27, John Whelan wrote: > >> I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by > >> at least one HOT project. > >> > >> Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? > > > > Besser die Finger davon lassen und nur berichten - das passiert gerade > > weltweit > > > > > > > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/update-13-06-2024-neue-vandalismuswelle-strassen-kreuz-und-quer-teilweise-namen-geandert/113287 > > Sorry, this somehow ended up in the wrong thread. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20240616/3862e0fd/attachment-0001.htm > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:30:13 + (UTC) > From: weeklyteam > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #725 06/06/2024-12/06/2024 > Message-ID: <20240616103013.acaf57d...@weeklyosm.eu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 725, > is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of > things happening in the openstreetmap world: > > https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17303 > > Enjoy! > > Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log > in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read > more about how to write a post here: > https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm > > weeklyOSM? > who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages > where?: > https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > -- > > End of talk Digest, Vol 238, Issue 4 > > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-se] Samtal med Läntmäteriet om användning av topowebb och ortofoto
Hej! I fall du inte redan visste det så kommer Lantmäteriet (senast) 10 februari 2025 att släppa detta som öppna data, enligt krav från EU. Så kan du vänta 8 månader så kommer det lösa sig ändå :) Dessutom är topowebb topografi 50 (den som finns i JOSM till exempel) redan öppna data, så fritt fram att plocka namn och dyligt från den. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/topografisk-webbkarta-visning-oversiktlig/) Det som kommer släppas som öppna data i februari är bl.a. adress- och byggnadsdata, info om fastighetsgränser, höjddata, hydrografi, kartor och ortofoton. (https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/om-lantmateriet/press/nyheter/nytt-regeringsbeslut-kring-oppna-data/) Observera att ortofoton inte är släppta som öppna data än. Vissa använder det ändå, men enligt mig bryter det mot OSMs användarvillkor. Mvh Joel (anv Leojth) Den 2024-06-17 kl. 14:54, skrev Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se: Hej alla! Har frågat Läntmäteriet om tillstånd att använda deras fastighets/topowebb-karta då vi tidigare fått ett tillstånd att använda ortofoto som en referens, och det skulle hjälpa enormt att mappa byggnader, addresser, namn, berg, m.fl. Då jag inte vet att jag inte kommer kunna ge alla svar så vill jag helst ha med några till något möte med LM om användning av data och vad det innebär. Tänker att vi inte är allt för många men definitivt 2-4 stycken till skulle vara perfekt LMs svar på förfrågan om användning av topowebb som referens Hej, Tack för din förfrågan och ursäkta sen återkoppling. När vi tillhandahåller vår geodata medföljer alltid någon form av villkor. Vissa produkter omfattas av en öppen datalicens, CC0, men många har vi fortfarande våra egna licensvillkor för, se denna länk. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/Villkor-och-avgifter/ och denna länk för att läsa om våra produkter. https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/ Vi gör skillnad på vad man får göra som slutanvändare och som vidareförädlare. Ett vanligt slutanvändarvillkor avser endast användning inom en organisation eller användningen av en enskild person. Att sprida informationen vidare omfattas däremot av andra avtal som kan skrivas om man blir en vidareförädlare av Lantmäteriets information. Avtalen som reglerar spridning av information till andra utanför den egna organisationen kallas för följdproduktavtal och skrivs för varje enskild följdprodukt som en vidareförädlare avser tillhandahålla. Vi skulle vilja föreslå ett möte med er efter sommaren för att diskutera igenom vad det är ni vill göra lite mer i detalj. Hör gärna av dig med ett datum som passar dig så kan vi skicka en inbjudan. Med vänliga hälsningar Ingela Kundansvarig, Geodatasupport Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-se] Samtal med Läntmäteriet om användning av topowebb och ortofoto
Hej alla! Har frågat Läntmäteriet om tillstånd att använda deras fastighets/topowebb-karta då vi tidigare fått ett tillstånd att använda ortofoto som en referens, och det skulle hjälpa enormt att mappa byggnader, addresser, namn, berg, m.fl. Då jag inte vet att jag inte kommer kunna ge alla svar så vill jag helst ha med några till något möte med LM om användning av data och vad det innebär. Tänker att vi inte är allt för många men definitivt 2-4 stycken till skulle vara perfekt LMs svar på förfrågan om användning av topowebb som referens > Hej, > > Tack för din förfrågan och ursäkta sen återkoppling. När vi tillhandahåller > vår geodata medföljer alltid någon form av villkor. Vissa produkter omfattas > av en öppen datalicens, CC0, men många har vi fortfarande våra egna > licensvillkor för, se denna länk. > > https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/Villkor-och-avgifter/ > > och denna länk för att läsa om våra produkter. > > https://www.lantmateriet.se/sv/geodata/vara-produkter/produktlista/ > > Vi gör skillnad på vad man får göra som slutanvändare och som vidareförädlare. > > Ett vanligt slutanvändarvillkor avser endast användning inom en organisation > eller användningen av en enskild person. Att sprida informationen vidare > omfattas däremot av andra avtal som kan skrivas om man blir en > vidareförädlare av Lantmäteriets information. Avtalen som reglerar spridning > av information till andra utanför den egna organisationen kallas för > följdproduktavtal och skrivs för varje enskild följdprodukt som en > vidareförädlare avser tillhandahålla. > > Vi skulle vilja föreslå ett möte med er efter sommaren för att diskutera > igenom vad det är ni vill göra lite mer i detalj. Hör gärna av dig med ett > datum som passar dig så kan vi skicka en inbjudan. > > Med vänliga hälsningar > IngelaKundansvarig, Geodatasupport Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Requêtes Overpass pour les cheminements piétons
Bonjour, Beaau travail mais cela ne fait-il pas un éparpiement avec osmose ? je trouve pratiqeu d'avoir tout le QA dans un lieu réduit d'endroit pour éviter d'avoir à ouvrir plein d'outil pour tout vérifieir :) j'ai un soucis avec la formulation du premier : "Passage piéton connecté au milieu d’un chemin piéton au lieu d’être connecté à une extrémité" passage piéton = le noeud ? si oui je vois pas ce qui empeche d'être au milieu d'un way de par 3 points décrivant la traversé Le 15.06.24 à 02:52, Francois Gouget a écrit : J'ai utilisé des permalinks comme lien vers les requêtes Overpass mais ce faisant je reçois un avertissement comme quoi ils pourraient ne pas marcher parce que la requête est longue je pense que cela n'a aucun rapport avec le partage de lien ajouter l'instruction timeout devrait aider les longues requêtes si le serveur n'est pas trop sous eau. rencontré des problèmes avec le bouton "save on osm.org": il n'a marché qu'une fois j'ai plein de requête sauvée ainsi sans soucis tu as eu quoi exactement comme soucis ? je ne sais pas comment créer un lien qui utiliserait une requête sauvée. je ne connais pas de moyen de partagé une requête sauvée dans ton compte Cordialement, Marc ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints
I think the guidelines cover it nicely. I'll sprinkle a few pointers around. I've found changeset comments don't work terribly well with HOT mappers. By the time I stumble across a problem it's a year or more later and they last mapped 9 months ago. In theory they do have a validation process but in practice they have fewer validators than they need. The other problem is currently many have a comment saying Microsoft buildingfootprints. DWG them and the quick solution is to leave the comment off. It's a balance between adding a lot more buildings in and adding too many. In some areas with few buildings they are useful. With the new mapathon clean up tools in JOSM duplicate buildings aren't a major problem and these buildings are a lot better than many drawn with ID but an ounce of prevention saves a lot of clean up plus until it is cleaned up it messes population estimates up. Thank you for the pointer. Cheerio John On Mon, Jun 17, 2024, 05:05 Mateusz Konieczny via talk, < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines > > So they need either actual human review or going through that process. > If buildings are being duplicated on large scale than likely neither was > followed. > > I would write changeset comment on their edit asking to fix that. > In worse cases - revert edits altogether and in the worst or continued > contact DWG > to get them blocked (starting from 0-hour block in milder cases). > > Note that occasional mistake happens to everyone, but people should also > react if they get changeset comment and fix data they broke. > > Jun 14, 2024, 03:34 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com: > > I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by at > least one HOT project. > > Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? > > Thanks John > -- > Sent from Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com> > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines So they need either actual human review or going through that process. If buildings are being duplicated on large scale than likely neither was followed. I would write changeset comment on their edit asking to fix that. In worse cases - revert edits altogether and in the worst or continued contact DWG to get them blocked (starting from 0-hour block in milder cases). Note that occasional mistake happens to everyone, but people should also react if they get changeset comment and fix data they broke. Jun 14, 2024, 03:34 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com: > I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by at least > one HOT project. > > Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? > > Thanks John > -- > Sent from > Postbox <https://www.postbox-inc.com> > _______ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Requêtes Overpass pour les cheminements piétons
Bonjour, Merci pour le partage, c'est très intéressant. J'avais aussi un peu bossé sur le contrôle qualité de ces données et proposé 2 challenges Maproulette : https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/t/amelioration-donnees-pietonnes-a-paris/20358/1 mais ils n'ont pas eu un grand succès. -- Noémie Lehuby Le 15/06/2024 à 02:52, Francois Gouget a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai découvert récemment que pratiquement tous les trottoirs et passages piétons de Paris sont maintenant présents sur la carte. Donc d'abord je tire mon chapeau à l'équipe de SonarVision qui a réalisé là un sacré travail. Mais c'est inévitable : plein de nouveaux objets veut aussi dire pas mal de nouvelles erreurs. En parcourant la carte j'ai repéré un certain nombre de cas courants et je me suis dit que ce serait pratique de pouvoir trouver tous les cas similaires. Du coup j'ai écrit quelques requêtes Overpass et je me dit que cela pourrait intéresser d'autres contributeurs, pas qu'à Paris d'ailleurs. Et puis tout corriger va quand même représenter pas mal de travail donc autant que tout le monde puisse participer. J'ai donc décidé de les partager via ma page de profil : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/fgouget Les premières requêtes sont : * Passages piétons non/mal connectés aux trottoirs (~3000 résultats sur Paris) * Propriété crossing incorrecte pour un passage piéton avec feu piéton (~2300) * Passages piétons avec crossing=b (~600) Ces requêtes marchent pour n'importe quelle ville. Mais s'il n'y a pas de way représentant les trottoirs et passages piétons elles ne retourneront pas grand chose. J'ai d'autres requêtes en réserve mais pour chaque requête j'essaie de décrire le problème, comment le corriger, ainsi que les faux positifs et faux négatifs potentiels... et ce n'est pas encore fait pour les autres. J'espère ne pas avoir dit trop de bétises pour les explications des requêtes actuelles. Y a-t-il d'autres points qu'il faudrait préciser ? J'ai utilisé des permalinks comme lien vers les requêtes Overpass mais ce faisant je reçois un avertissement comme quoi ils pourraient ne pas marcher parce que la requête est longue (... tous ces commentaires explicatifs). Y a-t-il une meilleure façon de faire ? J'ai notamment rencontré des problèmes avec le bouton "save on osm.org": il n'a marché qu'une fois, le reste du temps rien ne se passe. De toute façon je ne sais pas comment créer un lien qui utiliserait une requête sauvée. OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
I agree, indeed some are already mapped this way https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7032873 On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 at 15:20, cleary wrote: > > This was discussed about a decade ago in regard to unincorporated areas in > NSW and SA. The prevailing view was that unincorporated areas are local > government areas. They usually have a different administrative structure > (as distinct from the councils that administer local government in more > populated areas) but irrespective of administrative structure, they are > still areas which are subject to a form of local governance. An area does > not need a council to make it a local government area. > > "Unincorporated" means that the administrative body is not a legal entity > that can enter into contracts/debt etc like a company - usually because the > areas have insufficient population to support such administrative > structures. However decision making is often delegated to the local level. > In NSW, the large western unincorporated area used to be administered by a > board - I think it has changed and now has an administrator although, as > far as I know, Roads and Maritime Services remains responsible for the > roads in the area. Lord Howe Island is an unincorporated area administered > by a local board. In recent years, Sydney Harbour (including much of > Parramatta RIver) and Botany Bay have been removed from local council > controls and are now an unincorporated area of NSW - I am uncertain of the > administrative arrangements but I think it was intended that state > government authorities or administrators would exercise necessary > governance over the Harbour area. > > For example, if one views NSW Local Government Areas at > > https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fportal.spatial.nsw.gov.au%2Fserver%2Frest%2Fservices%2FNSW_Administrative_Boundaries_Theme%2FFeatureServer%2F8=sd > and then "left click" (or whatever works in your browser) when the cursor > is in Sydney Harbour, you will get responses such as "LocalGovernmentArea: > UNINCORPORATED - SYDNEY HARBOUR AREA" This URL can be acccessed directly > or via the NSW Spatial Services website. > > Unincorporated areas are local government areas, albeit with a different > form of governance. > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, at 8:51 AM, Brendan Barnes wrote: > > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level > > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? > > > > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas > > are administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, > > so I'm thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government > > authorities. > > > > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching > > the territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas > > ___ > > Talk-au mailing list > > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
This was discussed about a decade ago in regard to unincorporated areas in NSW and SA. The prevailing view was that unincorporated areas are local government areas. They usually have a different administrative structure (as distinct from the councils that administer local government in more populated areas) but irrespective of administrative structure, they are still areas which are subject to a form of local governance. An area does not need a council to make it a local government area. "Unincorporated" means that the administrative body is not a legal entity that can enter into contracts/debt etc like a company - usually because the areas have insufficient population to support such administrative structures. However decision making is often delegated to the local level. In NSW, the large western unincorporated area used to be administered by a board - I think it has changed and now has an administrator although, as far as I know, Roads and Maritime Services remains responsible for the roads in the area. Lord Howe Island is an unincorporated area administered by a local board. In recent years, Sydney Harbour (including much of Parramatta RIver) and Botany Bay have been removed from local council controls and are now an unincorporated area of NSW - I am uncertain of the administrative arrangements but I think it was intended that state government authorities or administrators would exercise necessary governance over the Harbour area. For example, if one views NSW Local Government Areas at https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fportal.spatial.nsw.gov.au%2Fserver%2Frest%2Fservices%2FNSW_Administrative_Boundaries_Theme%2FFeatureServer%2F8=sd and then "left click" (or whatever works in your browser) when the cursor is in Sydney Harbour, you will get responses such as "LocalGovernmentArea: UNINCORPORATED - SYDNEY HARBOUR AREA" This URL can be acccessed directly or via the NSW Spatial Services website. Unincorporated areas are local government areas, albeit with a different form of governance. On Mon, 17 Jun 2024, at 8:51 AM, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? > > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas > are administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, > so I'm thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government > authorities. > > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching > the territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
I'm sure it is done, as I've seen it at a smaller scale in the USA, I'll say tagging in OSM in USA isn't done for what in USA we call "special districts." And these most specifically do NOT get tagged with any admin_level value (6 or otherwise) because they really aren't a government, what admin_level values are all about (how things fit together into a hierarchy). In the US state of Hawaii, for example, there is a "succinct" (flattened, but deliberately) quickly-at-the-state-level (the state-level division happens among each island, sorta like shires in Oz) sense of admin_level. It is acknowledged (by locals, people who live there, years of thinking about it in OSM) that there isn't a place in the admin_level hierarchy which are essentially, how people direct their trash collection or libraries to knit together. That's not government, that's people buying services in a district. If you really want to map those, I don't see why not (well, some might consider that task tedious, others might see great value in it...). Where the cable companies run service out to? Maybe that's useful, I don't know. When it comes to garbage collection districts, school districts (very rarely, I happen to know) and other such "private, commercial" activity...I suppose we can map these and rarely we do (everything from "mosquito abatement district" to "public library area served for this branch of the library district"). What might be next? Scouting Australia (I just made that up) districts? Imaginations run wild with possibilities, but this is OSM, after all. I'm not saying "no," (I am saying "tedious") I am saying do not merge or blend these into OSM's admin_level hierarchy. Well, here I go with my California perspective. You can call something like this a special district (these do emerge in OSM) you have to be specific how you might tag it so everybody knows it is a special district. I don't think what you are talking about here are "administrative values" as OSM uses key admin_level=*. Not at all. Or, maybe "in the USA" (and that is as far out as my perspective does or should go further). It is 100% possible there is something about how things truly are administratively are carved up by Parks Division and Alpine Resorts Division (as these things are actively, Crown-managed, we might say). That's government, and does seem like admin_level, and 6 isn't a wrong choice, it seems. These things are best not messed with by somebody a large ocean away, despite similarities in culture, common law, commerce, governmental structure, though things do diverge. So, I'm voicing my thoughts here, I'm also stepping aside as someone who is not local. It is a wobbler and could go either way; I'm not from there. Thanks for an interesting dialog; c-ya later. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
thinking of. Adding > a place=* node for an unincorporated community? Sure, we do that (in the > USA), too. But we don't add admin_level tags to those, as it isn't correct > to do so. > > I hope this helps! > > > On Jun 16, 2024, at 3:51 PM, Brendan Barnes wrote: > > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? > > > > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas are > administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, so I'm > thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government authorities. > > > > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching the > territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas > > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
I absolutely realize that my experience is with the USA and not Australia, but (in a VERY broad-brush way) the logical mappings between how federal=2, state=4 and admin_level=6 is almost always the "sub-state / local-ish" government authorities (in the USA it is almost always what we call a "county," meaning a subdivision of the state, but counties often provide much "more local" government services) in both countries is quite similar. Importantly, for "unincorporated" parts of counties, these "fall under" an admin_level=6 "area" at the level of the entirety of the county itself, not with any specific smaller "boundary" (as these don't exist for unincorporated areas) WITHIN the county. Usually / often, a node specifies these unincorporated area, tagged place=* (and the value is often something smaller, like hamlet or village). Please do not add an admin_level=6 tag here, that's redundant tagging. Given the decade+ I've been facilitating admin_level in the USA (in wiki, in discussions, in the map data...) I would say you are on the right track with this "local government authorities get admin_level=6." This is true for unincorporated areas (within counties in the USA): they are "surrounded by" In the USA, for (usually incorporated) cities, these are something else, and it is our convention to use admin_level=8 for such cities (cities DO subordinate to the counties they are in, but in an independent way, usually), which is to say that they "more directly" subordinate to the state (at admin_level=4); a city that is an 8 is geographically located in a county (6), but a city can also correctly be said to subordinate more directly to a state (4) by virtue of it being the state constitution and state statutes (the "California Government Code" in my state) which crafts the legal framework for what a city "is" (within any given state) and how it is chartered / gains its independence (as a usually-incorporated entity independent of the state/county which it is inside of). It seems Oz uses 9 for "locality borders," different than USA uses 8 for cities (or towns which are incorporated), that's a minor quibble that is a bit off-topic here. So, with unincorporated areas, they don't really get a boundary=* polygon tagged with an admin_level, rather they are tagged with a place=* tag (appropriate to population, amenities and/or relative hierarchy in the region), but no specific admin_level tag, as they are simply "found inside of" a polygon which is already (usually) tagged admin_level=6, and that is what makes THEM 6, as well. These shouldn't get an additional polygon or tag which tags them with admin_level=6, as that would be redundant with their "county." Or whatever the word is in Australia, I think you call them "Shire / Council" boundaries. If a shire / council boundary is tagged with admin_level=6 (and these are found within Australian states tagged admin_level=4, which are in turn found within the country-level boundary of Oz which is tagged admin_level=2)...you've got it and are largely done. Unincorporated areas don't really need to have their admin_level specified, as these areas are quite likely very "unspecific" (and unincorporated) and their "surrounding 6" (shire / council) already captures this semantic — nothing really to add beyond that. If there ARE "locality borders" inside of a 6, tag them with 9 and be done. But please don't tag "unincorporated, unspecified boundaries" with anything, as it seems you really can't. The surrounding shire / council already specifies the 6 you seem to be thinking of. Adding a place=* node for an unincorporated community? Sure, we do that (in the USA), too. But we don't add admin_level tags to those, as it isn't correct to do so. I hope this helps! On Jun 16, 2024, at 3:51 PM, Brendan Barnes wrote: > Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level > unincorporated areas should have in Australia? > > In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas are > administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, so I'm > thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government authorities. > > ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching the > territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Administration level for unincorporated areas
Hi all, just seeing if there's consensus on what administration level unincorporated areas should have in Australia? In Victoria (and potentially other states), the unincorporated areas are administered by state-level statutory authorities and departments, so I'm thinking admin_level=6 to match equivalent local government authorities. ACT is an exception obviously, with the unincorporated area matching the territory border, so it takes on the higher order admin_level=4. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Land_and_boundaries#Administration_Levels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government_in_Australia#Unincorporated_areas ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[OSM-talk-fr] hebdoOSM Nº 725 06/06/2024-12/06/2024
Bonjour, Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 725 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître *en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur : https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/17303/ Bonne lecture ! Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note hebdomadaire sans être membre ? Il vous suffit de vous connecter sur https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login avec votre compte OSM. Pour en savoir plus sur la rédaction d'un article, cliquez ici: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm hebdoOSM ? Qui : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages Où : https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #725 06/06/2024-12/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 725, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17303 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] weeklyOSM #725 06/06/2024-12/06/2024
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 725, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of things happening in the openstreetmap world: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/archives/17303 Enjoy! Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about how to write a post here: https://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm weeklyOSM? who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages where?: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints
On 16.06.24 08:04, Martin Trautmann via talk wrote: > On 14.06.24 03:27, John Whelan wrote: >> I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by >> at least one HOT project. >> >> Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? > > Besser die Finger davon lassen und nur berichten - das passiert gerade > weltweit > > > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/update-13-06-2024-neue-vandalismuswelle-strassen-kreuz-und-quer-teilweise-namen-geandert/113287 Sorry, this somehow ended up in the wrong thread.___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] microsoft/BuildingFootprints
On 14.06.24 03:27, John Whelan wrote: > I'm seeing earlier buildings being duplicated by these in Uganda by at > least one HOT project. > > Do we have a formal protocol on how these should be "imported"? Besser die Finger davon lassen und nur berichten - das passiert gerade weltweit https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/update-13-06-2024-neue-vandalismuswelle-strassen-kreuz-und-quer-teilweise-namen-geandert/113287_______ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-se] Inomhuskartering och källa till Mälardalens universitet
Just det att båda campus är så väldigt detaljerade och karterat under en kort tid där inga tecken tyder på vad och hur de karterat. Ville använda detta som ett exempel till LTU för att få material att kartera med, men vill ju vara säker att det jag refererar är gjort på rätt sätt när det var så många oklarheter Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8 Original Message On 15/06/2024 09:42, Snusmumriken via Talk-se wrote: > On Fri, 2024-06-14 at 17:17 +, Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se wrote: > > Hej! > > > > Jag har kollat runt på inomhuskartering och såg att Mälardalens > > universitet (MDU) har ganska detaljerad kartering. Dock när jag > > sökte upp på tillåtelse genom OSM Wiki, Sweden/Datakällor, och > > Discord server m.m. så hittade absolut ingen information om vad de > > fått källan ifrån eller om de ens fått tillåtelse av universitetet > > att använda deras kartor > > > > Det gäller alltså både Eskilstuna och Västerås campus. På denna sida > > finns PDFer men absolut ingen licens eller dylikt omkring sidan eller > > PDFerna > > https://www.mdu.se/student/under-studietiden/campus-och-lokaler > > > > Hur mappade då folket campusen och hade de tillstånd är min fråga? > > Normalt sett utgår man väl infrån att människor är hederliga och följer > regler. Det kan väl vara fråga om en studerande vid campuset som helt > enkelt karterat sin vardagsmiljö. > > Finns det något som tyder på oegentligheter? > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Inomhuskartering och källa till Mälardalens universitet
On Fri, 2024-06-14 at 17:17 +, Freya Gustavsson via Talk-se wrote: > Hej! > > Jag har kollat runt på inomhuskartering och såg att Mälardalens > universitet (MDU) har ganska detaljerad kartering. Dock när jag > sökte upp på tillåtelse genom OSM Wiki, Sweden/Datakällor, och > Discord server m.m. så hittade absolut ingen information om vad de > fått källan ifrån eller om de ens fått tillåtelse av universitetet > att använda deras kartor > > Det gäller alltså både Eskilstuna och Västerås campus. På denna sida > finns PDFer men absolut ingen licens eller dylikt omkring sidan eller > PDFerna > https://www.mdu.se/student/under-studietiden/campus-och-lokaler > > Hur mappade då folket campusen och hade de tillstånd är min fråga? Normalt sett utgår man väl infrån att människor är hederliga och följer regler. Det kan väl vara fråga om en studerande vid campuset som helt enkelt karterat sin vardagsmiljö. Finns det något som tyder på oegentligheter? _______ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[OSM-talk-fr] Requêtes Overpass pour les cheminements piétons
Bonjour, J'ai découvert récemment que pratiquement tous les trottoirs et passages piétons de Paris sont maintenant présents sur la carte. Donc d'abord je tire mon chapeau à l'équipe de SonarVision qui a réalisé là un sacré travail. Mais c'est inévitable : plein de nouveaux objets veut aussi dire pas mal de nouvelles erreurs. En parcourant la carte j'ai repéré un certain nombre de cas courants et je me suis dit que ce serait pratique de pouvoir trouver tous les cas similaires. Du coup j'ai écrit quelques requêtes Overpass et je me dit que cela pourrait intéresser d'autres contributeurs, pas qu'à Paris d'ailleurs. Et puis tout corriger va quand même représenter pas mal de travail donc autant que tout le monde puisse participer. J'ai donc décidé de les partager via ma page de profil : https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/fgouget Les premières requêtes sont : * Passages piétons non/mal connectés aux trottoirs (~3000 résultats sur Paris) * Propriété crossing incorrecte pour un passage piéton avec feu piéton (~2300) * Passages piétons avec crossing=b (~600) Ces requêtes marchent pour n'importe quelle ville. Mais s'il n'y a pas de way représentant les trottoirs et passages piétons elles ne retourneront pas grand chose. J'ai d'autres requêtes en réserve mais pour chaque requête j'essaie de décrire le problème, comment le corriger, ainsi que les faux positifs et faux négatifs potentiels... et ce n'est pas encore fait pour les autres. J'espère ne pas avoir dit trop de bétises pour les explications des requêtes actuelles. Y a-t-il d'autres points qu'il faudrait préciser ? J'ai utilisé des permalinks comme lien vers les requêtes Overpass mais ce faisant je reçois un avertissement comme quoi ils pourraient ne pas marcher parce que la requête est longue (... tous ces commentaires explicatifs). Y a-t-il une meilleure façon de faire ? J'ai notamment rencontré des problèmes avec le bouton "save on osm.org": il n'a marché qu'une fois, le reste du temps rien ne se passe. De toute façon je ne sais pas comment créer un lien qui utiliserait une requête sauvée. -- Francois Gouget http://fgouget.free.fr/ Dieu dit: "M-x Lumière". Et la lumière fut. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5
Finns det någon skyltning på plats som säger att vägen är privat eller på annat sätt har begränsad tillgång? Om inte bör väl inte osm ha det heller? fre 14 juni 2024 kl. 22:43 skrev Micke : > Någon hemfridszon lär inte finnas i en stugby då man definitivt kan räkna > med att mer eller mindre okända personer går förbi på den väg/stig som > finns och som leder vidare till nästa stuga. > > > > Gällande strandskydd som normalt gäller inom 100 m från vatten: > > *Huvudregeln är att allmänheten har tillträde till de delar av fastigheten > som inte utgör tomtplats eller hemfridszon (tomtplats/hemfridszon utgörs av > ett begränsat område runt huvudbyggnaden på fastigheten). Utgångspunkten är > därför att det inte får finnas något som hindrar allmänhetens tillgång till > dessa områden eller något som gör att strandområdet upplevs som > privatiserat.* > > > > Men återigen, jag saknar lokalkännedom om det området. > > > > > > /Anders Andersson > > > > > > *Från:* John Bäckstrand > *Skickat:* den 14 juni 2024 15:48 > *Till:* OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista > *Kopia:* Per Geijer > *Ämne:* Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5 > > > > Ja, det är ett som jag pekade på lite knepigt fall rent OSM-mässigt, men > att allemansrätten gäller kan knappast stämma: > > " Hemfridszonen är området närmast runt ett bostads- och fritidshus där > den boende har rätt till ett privat område och att få vara ostörd. Inom > hemfridszonen har fastighetsägaren eller hyresgästen full rådighet över > marken, och ingen får vistas där utan lov av denne. Inom hemfridszonen > gäller således inte allemansrätten." > > Som jag skrev innan så har OSM egentligen inget kontrakt att på något sätt > informera om var allemansrätten gäller, Access-taggar handlar om andra > saker. Men jag är mer pragmatisk än dogmatisk dock, så om en access-tagg > råkar fungera bättre i praktiken, så varför inte? Jag har faktiskt själv > råkat ut för en väg som gick "obehagligt" nära ett hus, i princip på någons > tomt och jag hade uppskattat som användare av kartan att på något sätt > informeras om det. > > > > /John Bäckstrand > > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:30 PM Micke wrote: > > I mitt tycke ska stigen inte ha några access eller andra > restriktionstaggar. > > Stigen finns (och är inte ett skyddsobjekt), och då ska den vara inritad > på Openstreetmap. > > Allemansrätten gäller högst troligt (jag saknar dock lokalkännedom). > Allmänheten har tillgång till strandkanter och tomma sommarstugor är inte > något som upphäver allemansrätten. Man får till och med nyttja "privata" > bryggor om de inte är någon vid sommarstugan bryggan tillhör. En stugby vid > en strand bör också vara ännu mindre privat än en sommarstuga. Det ser > dessutom ut som att det inte är speciellt ianspråktagen tomtmark utan mer > natur med mycket träd m.m.. > > > För mig får folk gärna bada nakna var dom vill, men att försöka trycka ut > påhittade restriktioner som allmänheten ska anpassa sig efter känns rätt > sunkigt. > > > /Anders Andersson > > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Per Geijer > Skickat: den 13 juni 2024 17:43 > Till: talk-se@openstreetmap.org > Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5 > > Örjan Svane who is the person contacting us and demanding a map update is > a member of the Swedish FKK. I guess the following the path you will find > yourself surrounded by naked people. > https://www.scandinavianaturist.org/sv/node/367 > > Best rgds > //P > > > 13 juni 2024 kl. 13:00 skrev talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org: > > > > Send Talk-se mailing list submissions to > > talk-se@openstreetmap.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > talk-se-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Talk-se digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Edit path on private property (riiga) > > 2. Re: Edit path on private property (Christian Asker) > > 3. Re: Edit path on private property (Gustav Lindqvist) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 10:02:05 +0200 > > From: riiga > > To: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista &
Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5
Någon hemfridszon lär inte finnas i en stugby då man definitivt kan räkna med att mer eller mindre okända personer går förbi på den väg/stig som finns och som leder vidare till nästa stuga. Gällande strandskydd som normalt gäller inom 100 m från vatten: Huvudregeln är att allmänheten har tillträde till de delar av fastigheten som inte utgör tomtplats eller hemfridszon (tomtplats/hemfridszon utgörs av ett begränsat område runt huvudbyggnaden på fastigheten). Utgångspunkten är därför att det inte får finnas något som hindrar allmänhetens tillgång till dessa områden eller något som gör att strandområdet upplevs som privatiserat. Men återigen, jag saknar lokalkännedom om det området. /Anders Andersson Från: John Bäckstrand Skickat: den 14 juni 2024 15:48 Till: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista Kopia: Per Geijer Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5 Ja, det är ett som jag pekade på lite knepigt fall rent OSM-mässigt, men att allemansrätten gäller kan knappast stämma: " Hemfridszonen är området närmast runt ett bostads- och fritidshus där den boende har rätt till ett privat område och att få vara ostörd. Inom hemfridszonen har fastighetsägaren eller hyresgästen full rådighet över marken, och ingen får vistas där utan lov av denne. Inom hemfridszonen gäller således inte allemansrätten." Som jag skrev innan så har OSM egentligen inget kontrakt att på något sätt informera om var allemansrätten gäller, Access-taggar handlar om andra saker. Men jag är mer pragmatisk än dogmatisk dock, så om en access-tagg råkar fungera bättre i praktiken, så varför inte? Jag har faktiskt själv råkat ut för en väg som gick "obehagligt" nära ett hus, i princip på någons tomt och jag hade uppskattat som användare av kartan att på något sätt informeras om det. /John Bäckstrand On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 3:30 PM Micke mailto:mia...@hotmail.com>> wrote: I mitt tycke ska stigen inte ha några access eller andra restriktionstaggar. Stigen finns (och är inte ett skyddsobjekt), och då ska den vara inritad på Openstreetmap. Allemansrätten gäller högst troligt (jag saknar dock lokalkännedom). Allmänheten har tillgång till strandkanter och tomma sommarstugor är inte något som upphäver allemansrätten. Man får till och med nyttja "privata" bryggor om de inte är någon vid sommarstugan bryggan tillhör. En stugby vid en strand bör också vara ännu mindre privat än en sommarstuga. Det ser dessutom ut som att det inte är speciellt ianspråktagen tomtmark utan mer natur med mycket träd m.m.. För mig får folk gärna bada nakna var dom vill, men att försöka trycka ut påhittade restriktioner som allmänheten ska anpassa sig efter känns rätt sunkigt. /Anders Andersson -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Per Geijer mailto:p...@geijer.org>> Skickat: den 13 juni 2024 17:43 Till: talk-se@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-se@openstreetmap.org> Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Talk-se Digest, Vol 177, Issue 5 Örjan Svane who is the person contacting us and demanding a map update is a member of the Swedish FKK. I guess the following the path you will find yourself surrounded by naked people. https://www.scandinavianaturist.org/sv/node/367 Best rgds //P > 13 juni 2024 kl. 13:00 skrev > talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org>: > > Send Talk-se mailing list submissions to > talk-se@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-se@openstreetmap.org> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-se-requ...@openstreetmap.org> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-se-ow...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-se-ow...@openstreetmap.org> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-se digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Edit path on private property (riiga) > 2. Re: Edit path on private property (Christian Asker) > 3. Re: Edit path on private property (Gustav Lindqvist) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 10:02:05 +0200 > From: riiga mailto:ri...@lysator.liu.se>> > To: OpenStreetMap Sverige mailinglista > mailto:talk-se@openstreetmap.org>> > Subject: Re: [Talk-se] Edit path on private property > Message-ID: > <8593c7979207881b6d9bcb83b4f17...@lysator.liu.se<mailto:8593c7979207881b6d9bcb83b4f17...@lysator.liu.se>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hej! > > Det finns ingen som centralt ?r ansvarig f?r kartan, och du kan inte > kravst?lla att n?gon ska ta bort saker eller dylikt. Kartan ?r
[Talk-se] Inomhuskartering och källa till Mälardalens universitet
Hej! Jag har kollat runt på inomhuskartering och såg att Mälardalens universitet (MDU) har ganska detaljerad kartering. Dock när jag sökte upp på tillåtelse genom OSM Wiki, Sweden/Datakällor, och Discord server m.m. så hittade absolut ingen information om vad de fått källan ifrån eller om de ens fått tillåtelse av universitetet att använda deras kartor Det gäller alltså både Eskilstuna och Västerås campus. På denna sida finns PDFer men absolut ingen licens eller dylikt omkring sidan eller PDFerna https://www.mdu.se/student/under-studietiden/campus-och-lokaler Hur mappade då folket campusen och hade de tillstånd är min fråga? Inomhuskarteringen Eskilstuna campus https://indoorequal.org/#map=18.26/59.373555/16.510192/0/20=0 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Victor%20Herlin/history#map=19/59.37361/16.51007 Inomhuskarteringen Västerås campus https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mrcshmrstrm/history#map=17/59.61847/16.54296 https://indoorequal.org/#map=16.83/59.618373/16.541193/0/20=0 Freya Gustavsson 75E3 741A AE12 6527 985C 1C02 E569 475F D614 16C8___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
