Re: Except.log
I suppose it doesn't consider people who haven't done specific customizations in toolbars/shortcuts as we did :- The thing is, I haven't. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. If genetic scientists crossed a chicken with a zebra would they get a four legged chicken with it's own barcode? pgpHj78um07Np.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some splash-screens for startup
22 pics for startup splash-screens Nice. TVM. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. This week's Clairvoyants Association meeting is canceled due to unforeseen events. pgpHtKI3kaIoc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Some splash-screens for startup
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 10:17 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Some splash-screens for startup' : Hallo Stuart, 22 pics for startup splash-screens SH Nice. TVM. where? how??? -- regards, Cees By appreciation, we make excellence in others our own property - Voltaire __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some splash-screens for startup
where? http://www.entropii.net/bat_skins/tb_logo_golf.exe how??? Just run the installer and restart TB! -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. I used to work in a blanket factory, but it folded. pgpaZrV9wptnF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Adding View Modes
If you add a new view mode it doesn't appear in the dropdown list of available modes (eg when you right-click on a message list column header) until after a TB! restart. I'm sure that it used to work differently to that. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Why do banks charge a fee on insufficient funds when they know there is not enough? pgpVXTLPMJhVQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Some splash-screens for startup
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 10:46 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Some splash-screens for startup' : Hallo Stuart, where? SH http://www.entropii.net/bat_skins/tb_logo_golf.exe how??? SH Just run the installer and restart TB! nice! all I need now is a couple of golfclubs... :-)) btw, after clicking that link and closing thebat I got my very first AV sigh -- regards, Cees What is this? An audience or an oil painting? __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Idle Question I
What do people mean when they speak of the 'Folder View'? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. The Benefits of Being Over Sixty ( 4) : People no longer view you as a hypochondriac. pgp1o2wS5Gb6w.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Idle Question II
Where is the 'Ticker folder'? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Suicide is the most sincere form of self-criticism. pgpVaxhdwov7f.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some splash-screens for startup
nice! Aren't they? all I need now is a couple of golfclubs... :-)) Hell of a what to spoil a good walk if you ask me. btw, after clicking that link and closing thebat I got my very first AV Didn't have any thing like that here. I can see there being a number of these splash screen backdrops turning up to go with specific TB! UI themes. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Grandchildren are God's reward for not killing your own children. pgpeIuAKDZvvV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question I
Hello Stuart, Stuart Hemming wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): What do people mean when they speak of the 'Folder View'? I guess the window, which appears if you double click an incoming message. (But be careful, this window is in the 3.09.11 one of the AV-producer windows :) -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Some splash-screens for startup
Hello, Cees! By the way: Zips: http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Carr_1.0.zip http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Europe_1.0.zip http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Flower_1.0.zip http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Golf_1.0.zip http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Lovi_1.0.zip Installers (same content as zips): http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Carr_1.0.exe http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Europe_1.0.exe http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Flower_1.0.exe http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Golf_1.0.exe http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Lovi_1.0.exe Sample to compile installer with InnoSetup. http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/sample_for_inno.zip -- Best regards, Ivan The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question I
I guess the window, which appears if you double click an incoming message. OIC. Yes, it even says 'View Folder Of ...' in the caption. Thanks Boris (But be careful, this window is in the 3.09.11 one of the AV-producer windows :) Not here it isn't. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. A bicycle can't stand on its own because it is two-tired. pgprvMFg3n5W4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[4]: Some splash-screens for startup
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 11:07 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Some splash-screens for startup' : Hallo Ivan, I Hello, Cees! I By the way: I Installers (same content as zips): I http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Carr_1.0.exe I http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Europe_1.0.exe I http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Flower_1.0.exe I http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Golf_1.0.exe I http://www.entropii.net/bat_logo/TB_Logo_Lovi_1.0.exe I go for installers anytime... I like easy livin' ;) Hey thanks pal! Tried to look into the directory already but got an access forbidden, which was to be expected. I suppose there's no way (yet) to easily change between themes IN thebat! ? -- regards, Cees Definition of Bagpipes: An Octopus Wearing A Kilt __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some splash-screens for startup
Hello Ivan, Ivan wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Zips: Thanks. I go for zips/rar anytime ... I like security ... ;). Is it allowed/desired to make the URL public (e.g. in the german bat forum) or even to provide the file's on own servers? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question I
Hello Stuart, Stuart Hemming wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): (But be careful, this window is in the 3.09.11 one of the AV-producer windows :) Not here it isn't. So you can open this window more than twice? You're lucky. So you're not affected with problem in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Why not using the same template?
Hello all, This is a problem not related only to the latest pre-betas, it occurs with v3.0.2.10 I'm using and it occurred with previous versions. It may have always been that way but I can't assure/prove it. This is the scenario: - I'm on a folder where I have defined a folder template for new messages. - I'm viewing a message that includes an e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the body. - If I double click on this address, I get a new message using the folder template. - If I right click on the address and select Write a message to this address from the context menu, I get a new message using the account's default template for new messages. Is this the intended behaviour? If so, why? I think folder template should be used in both cases. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question I
So you can open this window more than twice? You're lucky. So you're not affected with problem in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]? NOW it's broken. I'm blaming you! It /was/ fine. I've had to go back a version 'cos I was getting AVs if I tried to mark the message read! -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Suicide is the most sincere form of self-criticism. pgpg1n9QuQClJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: Some splash-screens for startup
Hello, Cees! Tried to look into the directory already but got an access forbidden, which was to be expected. There is no index.html and the main page of site do not exist too. May be it will be written in future. -- Best regards, Ivan The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 - Cannot send any message!
Hello, on Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:59:43 +0200 GMT your local time I wrote: PH Starting from 3.0.9.11 I cannot send any message with the result shown above. to solve this issue as well as the one mentioned by Boris and Alexander you have to set the connection type to regular. Secure to regular port does NOT work with 1und1 any more! I called them by phone and was told to remove all my accounts and set them up from scratch, because they have changed their certificates - and TheBat does not reflect this changes. What a rubbish bullshit! I tried to ask them WHAT they have changed when installing a new certificate. But I did not get a really valid answer. So for now the one and only solution is to do it without a secure TLS connection! Maybe it can help if a lot of 11 customers will call the help center and bomb them with complaints! -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.11 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.11 AV
Hello , I get AV windows: - when focusing on a message with attachments (html messages, text messages without headers Content-Type: charset=us_ascii on this list, real attachements) - when displaying headers of such messages (Ctrl+Shift+K) - when replying to a message (any messages of tbbeta, with ou witout attachments) When focusing on messages with attachments: error in thebat.exe, address 00402b7f, read from address 7ffdf000 Funny thing: now I cannot return to display without headers (with shortcut key or with right clic menu). Close TB, have a Programe error (send info to Microsoft). TB stays in memory (have to kill it). Relaunch TB and all works perfect. Not stable at all ! -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! 3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP rev 2600 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Some splash-screens for startup
Hello, Boris! I like security ... ;). You may recompile own. All sources available. For my installer's projects and for InnoSetup too - full source code is available (Borland Delphi 2.0-5.0) ;) Is it allowed/desired to make the URL public (e.g. in the german bat forum) or even to provide the file's on own servers? Not a problem. Files and links can be posted. But if you will upload files to another server - is there any counters or comments pages or vote pages? (I haven't any) Today or tomorrow or day after tomorrow files will be on www.nobat.ru -- Best regards, Ivan The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question II
Dear Gmail, @1-Apr-2005, 09:59 Stuart Hemming [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: G Where is the 'Ticker folder'? It's purely virtual and opens when you double click on the ticker. My favourite TB folder - I spend more time here than in any other part of TB. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpaDkbnLW8wp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question II
Dear Gmail, @1-Apr-2005, 09:59 Stuart Hemming [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: G Where is the 'Ticker folder'? It's purely virtual and opens when you double click on the ticker. Odd. It doesn't do that here. If I double click on the ticker nothing happens. If I double click on a message is the ticker then TB! gets the focus and the message I clicked on in the ticker is selected but nothing 'opens'. I just see the message highlighted in the message list and the message itself in the preview window. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Dogs come when they're called; cats take a message and get back to you later. pgp23Zh1tk1Za.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question II
Dear Gmail, @1-Apr-2005, 12:17 Stuart Hemming [G] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: G Where is the 'Ticker folder'? It's purely virtual and opens when you double click on the ticker. G Odd. It doesn't do that here. Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Mail ticker .. Operation mode. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpnLxGzVhOVs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Idle Question II
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 13:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Idle Question II' : Hallo Marck, G Where is the 'Ticker folder'? Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Mail ticker .. Grounded In MailTicker Room :-)) -- regards, Cees Official member of the ACR __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
pre-beta 11
Battyfolk, AVs all the way around, reverting to 10 -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB!3.0.9.10 Return, Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 ICQ 41116329 Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question II
Dear Gmail, My friends call me Stuart. 8-) Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Mail ticker .. Operation mode. OIC. TVM. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. I'm too old to die young. pgpByrFJQl0nm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Sorting Office Statistics
What causes the 'Tested' count to be incremented and what causes the 'Triggered' count to be incremented? I know the obvious answers but they don't really stack up. For example, I filter all internal mail in to a single mailbox. I get a fair bit of it. The stats read: Tested 1292 times Triggered 25 times The 'Tested' figure doesn't make sense 'cos I don't know /how/ to test a filter (anyone care to enlighten me?) and the 'Triggered' figure is obviously wrong. I appreciate that the collection of these stats might be a relatively new thing so I don't really expect the figures to me wholly accurate anyhow. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Give me ambiguity or give me something else. pgpkHVUfXivP6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 - Cannot send any message!
Hello Peter, Peter Hampf wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): Secure to regular port does NOT work with 1und1 any more! Well, it works just good, if you use auth.smtp.kundenserver.de as SMTP server. But it don't work with 3.09.11: 01.04.2005, 14:54:34: SEND - Certificate S/N: 0546F7, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 30 Mrz 2005 to 30 Apr 2006, for 1 host(s): auth.smtp.kundenserver.de. 01.04.2005, 14:54:34: SEND - Owner: DE, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Karlsruhe, Achim Weiss, auth.smtp.kundenserver.de. 01.04.2005, 14:54:34: SEND - Issuer: US, Equifax, Equifax Secure Certificate Authority. !01.04.2005, 14:54:34: SEND - TLS handshake failure. Invalid server certificate (The issuer of this certificate does not have Certificat Signing purpose in its certificate). In 3.09.11 you must fall back to regular port. So it seems to be a problem with TheBat!, too. Developers? Do you need a test-account? No problem :-). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello Roger, attached -- 9Valattachment: fld_view_nav2.PNG Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello MAU, M Are you going to do something about threading by Reference? Sure, but a little bit later -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some splash-screens for startup
Hello Ivan, Ivan wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): I like security ... ;). You may recompile own. Thanks, but zip is just fine. But if you will upload files to another server - is there any counters or comments pages or vote pages? (I haven't any) Well, just thought that http://www.thebatworld.de/ or http://bat-mail.de.vu/ can also provide the files, to reduce the traffic on your server. But I'm not the webmaster of these files, so I can't say anything here. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello Ian, IAW As I did not try any of the pre-beta versions, what happens with the IAW additional files? Do they all go in the program folder or do they need IAW to be in their own folder? No, all files should be placed to the program directory (where thebat.exe is located) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language
Hello to all! When I choose Russian thus language of the interface of the program does not vary in the menu. Confirm whether or not? -- :devil: Ave Satanas!, Baphomet [aka Izakaron] e-mail: izakaron[dog]gmail.com WEB: www.hatebreeders.tk - Russian Dark Music Web-Zoneattachment: Language.jpg pgpoZaO2D9uw9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return: choose language
Hello Baphomet, Baphomet wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): When I choose Russian thus language of the interface of the program does not vary in the menu. Confirm whether or not? Here, translation of menu needs a restart of TheBat! -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
One for the Mods
The list footer is out of date ... ,- [ ] | Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information `- -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens. pgpsvN283UFrd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello Peter, PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Width of name in folder Tab all is always bigger than in other PO folder tabs. Don't think it is bug PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Edit Message window using any message format: PO Format | Alignment and Utilities | Format block are multiple entries I don't think it is bad. 'Format' menu is common place in other editors there formatting commands stay. But remembering about compatibility Utilities/Format was left PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Mailto links side effect: PO after clicking on a mailto link in a browser (FF or IE), TB puts not PO only the new Edit Mail Message window on top of the browser window, PO but also the TB window which was last active before clicking the PO mailto link (could be the TB main window or another edit window) I've tried 3.0.1.33 and it has the same behaviour PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO [quote] PO - Password protected accounts (opened): when wanting to edit folder PO properties in such an account, a password window pops up for each PO _opened_ password protected account available. No need / annoying, it PO was already opened. After closing the properties window using OK, PO again a password window pops up for each _opened_ password protected PO account. Again, no need / annoying. PO [/quote] PO -- Not fixed. Also: everytime that password window pops-up, the PO account/folder tree pane goes blank and rebuilds. Can't reproduce PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO More concerning folder actions in a password protected account: PO - Ins key to create a new folder (starting with 3.09.08) PO - Folder context menu | New PO all produce a password pop-up window for _all_ already unlocked PO accounts. This should not be, as the account is already unlocked. PO Fixed items in 3.0.9.10: PO - Del key to delete a folder PO - Folder context menu | Delete Can't reproduce PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Concerning folder actions in a non-password protected account: PO - Folder context menu | Properties (or Alt-Enter) PO - Folder context menu | New(or Ins key) PO all produce a password pop-up window for _all_ password protected PO accounts which are already unlocked. This should not be, as there is PO no password protected account involved. PO Fixed items in 3.0.9.10: PO - Folder context menu | Delete (or Del key) Can't reproduce -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TB! or GMail?
TBH I think that this is a GMail problem, but each time I post to this list I get an entry like the following in my account log ... ,- [ ] | !01/04/2005, 14:11:51: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: | 0 Flushed `- -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. If you send someone 'Styrofoam', how do you pack it? pgpw23UVksJWV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
GMail
GMail has increased the amount of storage each user has. The article (http://www.google.com/gmail/help/whatsnew.html) says 2Gb but my mail web page says it's currently 1302Mb This has been a public service announcement. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. A lot of money is tainted. It taint yours and it taint mine. pgpGelKAaVZ0a.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
Hi Stuart, Friday, April 1, 2005, 2:18:12 PM, you wrote: SH GMail has increased the amount of storage each user has. The article SH (http://www.google.com/gmail/help/whatsnew.html) says 2Gb but my mail SH web page says it's currently 1302Mb You missed reading the important part. (Our *PLAN* is ... blah blah more when we are able).. eg, coming soon :) Storage is an important part of email, but that doesn't mean you should have to worry about it. To celebrate our one-year birthday, we're giving everyone one more gigabyte. But why stop the party there? Our plan is to continue growing your storage beyond 2GBs by giving you more space as we are able. We know that email will only become more important in people's lives, and we want Gmail to keep up with our users and their needs. From Gmail, you can expect more. -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
Hallo Stuart, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:11:47 +0100GMT (1-4-2005, 15:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G The list footer is out of date ... Let's see if that can be remedied. -- Groetjes, Roelof Love is chemistry; sex is mechanical engineering. The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpprQqgNa4Ck.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Idle Question II
Dear Stuart, @1-Apr-2005, 12:53 Stuart Hemming [SH] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TBBETA: Dear Gmail, SH My friends call me Stuart. 8-) Ah - good point! Sorry 'bout that. Fixed the AB entry. SH TVM. YW. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpus1KBG9VzJ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sorting Office Statistics
Well, I suppose 'tested' would be the messages that are compared with the conditions for your filter Well done, that never occurred to me! 8-) Checking those numbers while browsing my sorting office they almost check out fine. I suppose they might make more sense if I know from when they had been collected, ie which version the collection started. Definitely something that needs to be worked upon. I agree. Mind you, I can't see how they (the stats) are of any use unless you can (a) access them, say, via macros and (b) reset them. If those conditions were met I could see them forming the basis of a usage report otherwise they're just consuming processor cycles. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. How do you know when it's time to tune your bagpipes? pgp6PvhotCSVE.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
Dear Roelof, @1-Apr-2005, 15:37 +0200 (01-Apr 14:37 UK time) Roelof Otten [RO] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Stuart: G The list footer is out of date ... RO Let's see if that can be remedied. Tsk! I'm slacking again!! :-D Thanks Roelof. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpni5HLoydmw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: GMail
You missed reading the important part. Story of my life. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference. pgpnZlLdRJGcj.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello 9Val, 9Val wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Width of name in folder Tab all is always bigger than in other folder tabs. Don't think it is bug Think it's a cosmetic issue. I don't see the sense, why the shouldn't have the same width. If users want to use the full width of the account-tree column but avoid the scroll bar on the button, they have a problem, becaue it's impossible to realize this in all Tabs. - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Edit Message window using any message format: Format | Alignment and Utilities | Format block are multiple entries I don't think it is bad. 'Format' menu is common place in other editors there formatting commands stay. But remembering about compatibility Utilities/Format was left Ok, that's an argument. But maybe one suggestion: Hide the format menu in Windows and MircoEditor completely, only with one entry it doesn't look that good. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello MAU, Mau wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): [-] Other : Shift+Reply button works Not here. F4 still works. Shift+Reply works here just fine. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:48:31 +0200GMT (31-3-2005, 22:48 +0100, where I live), Richard Wakeford wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C andthefont in the messagelist window still needs C the Options-Preferences-OK trick. confirmed on this one. confirmed -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.11 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature! Keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgpWHLdeBkz9r.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Warning, lots of AVs in this versions.
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 17:12:53 -0500GMT (1-4-2005, 0:12 +0100, where I live), Ron Secord wrote: RS Boris Anders [BA] wrote, I played around (to update the BugList) and get often AVs. Can't reproduce them yet, so just a not binding/general warning: This version seems to be very instable! RS Confirmed on the many AV's. They are a show-stopper here and had to RS revert back to previous beta. Strange those AV's. I have had them in almost every pre beta. I tried if deleting thebat.exe and after that copying the new thebat.exe would help to solve this, but no. I even make new shortcuts every time I install a new(er) version. But after the computer has been turned of for a rather long period (night), the problem seems to have gone here almost completely. I am reading and typing for almost an hour now and not one AV! One other strange thing just happened when I was looking at an attached screenshot (png), thebat just closed/ended?? -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.9.10 Professional on Windows XP SP2 When your key is not certified with a trusted signature! Keysigning is possible when you have a X.509 certificate from Thawte or CAcert with your name on it pgpbAry2fGG5S.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
I had a non-standard setup for move to next message and read message. They seemed to have disappeared and I can find the 'Edit Shortcut Keys' in the menu anywhere. Where is it? Do I take it from the deafening silence that this is no longer possible? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. It's all fun and games 'til someone loses an eye! Then it's a SPORT! pgpH3alViYgB9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.0.9.11 issues
Hi TB Beta list members, 1) Define Ctrl+Enter as shortcut I am unable to assign Ctrl+Enter to any shortcut or button, although it already exists as a defined shortcut. I am used to using Ctrl+Enter to finish editing an email and have it placed in the outbox. Now it is hard coded to Send now and cannot be changed. 2) Unable to globally use Ctrl+J for Mark as Junk I want to do this, as it is obviously much easier to use. However, the Ticker / folder view doesn't have access to the MailerForm_shortcuts set used to define the Main interface shortcuts. The MessageListViewer_Shortcuts set is the only set available in that situation. The shortcut definer there doesn't allow me to set Ctrl+J for the Mark as Junk function. I guess because it's already in use. But it shouldn't be. These are not mutually exclusive areas. 3) Scroll bar All scroll bars everywhere seem to be out-of-whack. They all show slack scroll areas - the ScrollRange is set beyond the bounds of the list / view. If you drag any scroll bar to the bottom of the track, the list / window scrolls well beyond the end of data. 4) Headers in message/folder view If I right click on a message header and slide into the headers sub-menu, none of the currently shown header items are selected. If I select an item, the currently shown headers all vanish to be replaced by the single selected option. If I carry on and select the headers I want displayed, the selection list does not survive closing the window. 5) Missing navigation functions I did moan about this one before. All versions of TB before 3.0.9 included a view previous / next message in navigation. I really miss this. I mean, previous / next in list is a pretty basic function! It's up / right in terms of arrow keys while in the list, sure. But without it being a named / in the menu as a function, the operations cannot be performed while the message list does not have the focus. This is important. Honest! 6) AV errors - not logged in except.log Now - let's see. Sometimes these cascade. Sometimes I can get in long enough to close, but it gets nasty errors on exit. This lot ended up in a hard loop: AV @ 0057EC97 ... read of 2B203042 AV @ 00B4C613 ... read of 025C AV @ 00B72C96 ... read of 01CC AV @ 03853E42 ... read of 00013006 (not in The Bat) AB @ ... read of (looping) -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpnc9gd00fxW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello 9Val, Hello MAU, M Are you going to do something about threading by Reference? Sure, but a little bit later OK, thanks. That's great to hear. No hurry at all on my part as I can perfectly work with 3.0.2.10 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
TBBETA Mission Statement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Beta Listers, This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you of the primary purpose of this discussion list. To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message. Before posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's FAQ at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and the list archive at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To join the list, send a message to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBBETA Mission statement The TBBETA list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! officially released Beta test versions and related issues. For general topics of a more simple nature regarding full release versions, refer to TBUDL. For more complex topics refer to TBTECH. An 'officially released' beta version is one which has been announced *by RITlabs* on the TBBETA list, usually with a list of changes. Simply send messages to tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com to send it to the whole list. See the notes at the end of this message for details about how to manage your list membership or to leave the list. It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBBETA messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBBETA folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for: Header Field [Reply-To] Contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Roguemoticon Project It's nice to see your contact's face in the header ... and for them to see yours. That's what roguemoticons are all about. If you wish to add yourself, then you'll need to visit this site http://www.pcwize.com/thebat What this place will do for you is to allow you to create an account, add your image and then let you download a .ZIP file containing all the files you'll need to be able so see people's faces without having to send or receive any real images in any messages. To trigger the roguemoticon display in the message header for anyone reading your message using TB, you have the choice of using the X-Rogue: header or a signature trigger. How to use a signature trigger The image is triggered by a 'Handle' you've defined in your account, and when that Handle appears in a message it gets replaced on the client side by the corresponding image. A handle could look like anything you want it to look like pretty much. For example: :Leif_Gregory: Just add this text to your standard message signature block. How to create the X-Rogue: header You can do that with this macro: %SetHeader('X-Rogue',':your_handle:')%- in your templates for this and other tb-lists. However, the macro alone won't do the trick. TB'll say: 'Hey, that's not any RFC822 header I know about', so you'll have to define it as such: Options .. Preferences .. Messages .. Message headers .. 'Add' Now you'll get a pop-up to define the header Display as: X-Rogue (or whatever, it isn't very important) RFC header: X-Rogue Uncheck: 'This field is an address list' (because it isn't) Check: 'Allow this field to be edited in the message editor' Uncheck: 'Display this field in the scrollable part of the header pane' Now you're done and every TB-user can see your lovable face when they've installed the roguemoticons. For you to see peoples faces: To get this going, you should be running TB! v2.12 or later. Fetch the following file: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues.zip Unzip it to the 'Images' directory that's in your TB! installation directory: C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images You should now have a directory called 'rogues' containing many images as well as the file 'rogues.msl' in your Images directory. Go into the preferences, and bring up the View/Editor options. Now hit Shift-CTRL-Alt-T while TB! is in focus. This will re-fetch TB!'s smiley set from disk and load the new images. TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list, where many of our readership currently participate. Addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Editing shortcut keys
Hi Stuart, Friday, April 1, 2005, 3:19:43 PM, you wrote: I had a non-standard setup for move to next message and read message. They seemed to have disappeared and I can find the 'Edit Shortcut Keys' in the menu anywhere. Where is it? SH Do I take it from the deafening silence that this is no longer SH possible? I used to have ctrl+R for reply from the main window, now it has to be ctrl+enter, its beginning to annoy me.. Im gonn have a look for us -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 issues
Marck, On 01-04-2005 16:21, you [MDP] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: MDP 3) Scroll bar MDPAll scroll bars everywhere seem to be out-of-whack. They all show MDPslack scroll areas - the ScrollRange is set beyond the bounds of MDPthe list / view. If you drag any scroll bar to the bottom of the MDPtrack, the list / window scrolls well beyond the end of data. And when you've had a very long account tree and you collapse it (so it would fit in the account tree height), you are not automatically scrolled up. You are in 3.0.1.33. Hope it is clear what I mean. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.1.33 Pro /thebat version env. ~18 POP3, 1 IMAP (MailMax 5.5) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
I used to have ctrl+R for reply from the main window, now it has to be ctrl+enter, its beginning to annoy me.. Im gonn have a look for us I've discovered that you can mess with the mainform.def file and that works, kind of. However it gets overwritten with each new version so it might pay to take a copy and 'diff' it with the new one when you get a new version from RitLabs. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. As every cat owner knows, nobody owns a cat. pgpZWEhalVPFR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:11:47 +0200, Stuart Hemming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The list footer is out of date ... ,- [ ] | Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information `- Yes, it should read current beta is 3.0.2.10 Rush, shouldn't it? And maybe additionally current prototype is 3.0.9.11 (codename: bugs on hallucinogenic drugs)... Are there more people that reverted back to 3.0.2.10 or testing the 3.0.9.xx series? :-) -- Gruesse / Greetings, Alexander Kunz (using Opera's M2 at the moment, I admit) Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 new-/non-/fixed issues
Hello 9Val, PO - mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Width of name in folder Tab all is always bigger than in other PO folder tabs. Don't think it is bug In 3.0.2.10 is has the same width in all tabs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Access violation
Got the v3.0.9.11 Return and overwrote my 3.0.2.10 After starting I got an access violation message in the EXE file and that was it. Was it already discussed how to avoid that? Regards, Gunivortus Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
Hi Alexander, Friday, April 1, 2005, 2:42:56 PM, you wrote: ASK Are there more people that reverted back to 3.0.2.10 or testing the ASK 3.0.9.xx series? :-) 3.0.9.10 is not bad for me. -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hello Boris, [-] Other : Shift+Reply button works Not here. F4 still works. Shift+Reply works here just fine. It works here too with 3.0._2_.10 ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
Hello Liz everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 16:47 you (Liz) wrote: ASK Are there more people that reverted back to 3.0.2.10 or testing the ASK 3.0.9.xx series? :-) 3.0.9.10 is not bad for me. That may well be, but what I've read on the list some features that I rely on are broken or go nuts, so no thanks... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The future is beyond knowledge, but the present is beyond belief! -- William Irwin Thompson Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: One for the Mods
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 16:58 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'One for the Mods' : Hallo Alexander, 3.0.9.10 is not bad for me. ASK That may well be, but what I've read on the list some features that I rely ASK on are broken or go nuts, so no thanks... you're definitely NOT a dare-devil. :-)) -- regards, Cees ²² - Scratch here to reveal prize __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access violation
Was it already discussed how to avoid that? In short? Go back to 3.0.9.10. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. It is generally inadvisable to eject directly over the area you just bombed. - U.S. Air Force Manual pgpsZ8gnwKnLH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Access violation
Good evening Goos, on Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:24:33 +0200 GMT your local time you wrote: G Was it already discussed how to avoid that? There are many AVs in .11 known to the developers. Wait for the next beta version and revert to 3.0.2.10 until then. BTW: Your sig delimiter is missing ... . Prepare yourself for a trout :-) -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.11 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: One for the Mods
Hallo Marck, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 14:46:26 +0100GMT (1-4-2005, 15:46 +0200, where I live), you wrote: G The list footer is out of date ... RO Let's see if that can be remedied. MDP Tsk! I'm slacking again!! :-D Thanks Roelof. It wasn't that much of an effort. The most difficult part was to find the right cave, the necessary dragon wrestling afterwards bears no mentioning. ;-) -- Groetjes, Roelof What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art. The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpPJB7nTBHuF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.0.9.11 - Cannot send any message!
Good evening 9Val, on Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:04:32 +0300 GMT your local time you wrote: 9 This problem was already solved confirmed. Good and fast work, 9Val! -- Regards, Peter Using Ritlabs TheBat! 3.0.9.11 Return (OS: Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: Access violation)
Hallo Goos, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:24:33 +0200GMT (1-4-2005, 16:24 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GG Was it already discussed how to avoid that? Not quite. GG Regards, GG Gunivortus GG GG Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Goos. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof When I was a boy, when Fortran was only Twotran The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgphTKhI6kKrq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 - Cannot send any message!
Hello Peter, PH confirmed. Good and fast work, 9Val! That's not me :-) I've just responded to your message -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Changes to the TB Lists
Hello all, It's with a heavy heart that we (the moderators) have finally come to a point in our lives where the TB lists have become so successful that it has begun to seriously impact our ability to lead a normal life. In our time as moderators, some of us have lost wives and girlfriends, our children, gone into debt and filed for bankruptcy. I myself was relegated to living in a cardboard box on the corner of Central and Lomas hacking my way into the nearby Starbucks wi-fi network each day so that I might continue my duties as a moderator. It is more than an obsession. It's a calling. A calling to duty which transcends this world and all Earthly possessions. We, the moderators, have devoured the EMA scale. EMA5 is nothing to us. A minor deity in our pitiful universe of self absorption and obsession. No longer are we bound to our mortal bodies, for we are one with the ether, one with the RFCs, one with e-mail. We are The Bat! therefore, we are all that is e-mail. We see all you write, we see all you read. Feed us. Feed us like a spammer would gorge the world on their offal. From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Yes, this may seem steep. A burden unbearable. But please, remember, that'll buy us a whole boatload of Big Macs with a large fry and a coke. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: witlag, n.: the delay between delivery and comprehension of a joke. Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 17:19 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'Changes to the TB Lists' : Hallo Leif, LG It's with a heavy heart that we (the moderators) have finally come to LG a point in our lives where the TB lists have become so successful that LG it has begun to seriously impact our ability to lead a normal life. ___\/___ o/\o LG Yes, this may seem steep. A burden unbearable. But please, remember, LG that'll buy us a whole boatload of Big Macs with a large fry and a LG coke. and here I was... humbly thinking that April Fool's Day was a Dutch thingy. :-)) -- regards, Cees Coming Soon! Mouse support for Edlin! __ The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
4/1/2005 10:27 AM Hi Leif, On 4/1/2005 Leif Gregory wrote: LG Yes, this may seem steep. A burden unbearable. But please, remember, LG that'll buy us a whole boatload of Big Macs with a large fry and a LG coke. Happy April Fool day to you too! If the above is true and you eat that junk, we will not have to pay the for the 2nd month. May you rest in peace! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Leif Gregory, Friday, April 1, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Yes, and since this is April 1st I found on Ritlabs site -only for a short moment before the site got inaccessible- the announcement that the upcoming major release version will be 3.5. Anyway: Leif, you are invited for a free coke and a burger when you're in town, okay? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :star: Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Leif, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Not bad! In Spain and other European countries we use a , instead of decimal point. So, to me, what you said, and I have it writing, is that the cost is $5 per month. Not bad ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Paul, Friday, April 1, 2005, 8:29:58 AM, you wrote: P Happy April Fool day to you too! If the above is true and you eat P that junk, we will not have to pay the for the 2nd month. May you P rest in peace! Moving to TBOT... No doubt... Have you seen the movie SuperSize Me? Pretty amazing. -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Mistakes? I don't make misakes! Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Charlene, Friday, April 1, 2005, 8:32:57 AM, you wrote: C Anyway: Leif, you are invited for a free coke and a burger when C you're in town, okay? Moving to TBOT... Where's town? grin -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: You are to Moderators what mosquitoes are to campers. Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello MAU, Friday, April 1, 2005, 8:39:54 AM, you wrote: it'll cost you $5,000 per month. M Not bad! In Spain and other European countries we use a , instead M of decimal point. So, to me, what you said, and I have it writing, M is that the cost is $5 per month. Not bad ;-) Great! Send it to me! rubbing hands Heheh. There's one born every minute! ;-) /rubbing hands -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Sucking chest wound: Nature's way of saying, Slow down. Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Leif, Friday, April 1, 2005, 4:19:27 PM, you wrote: LG From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on LG the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Nice tryk, but april fools finished nearly 5 hours ago in the UK :P -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
OT: Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Liz, Friday, April 1, 2005, 8:47:05 AM, you wrote: L Nice tryk, but april fools finished nearly 5 hours ago in the UK :P Moving to TBOT Yeah... this whole International list thing makes it tough. grin -- __ TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons: http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PCWSmileys: http://PCWize.com/thebat/pcwsmileys.php Tagline of the day: Some day I'm going to take all the red tape and tie up the Establishment for a change. Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Leif, Friday, April 1, 2005, 10:19:27 AM, you wrote: LG From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness LG on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. And a happy April Fools day to you too, Leif. -- Regards, Perry My heart sings, but my liver has no talent. -- anonymous Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. Cheap at twice the price! -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. The Benefits of Being Over Sixty ( 3) : Your joints are more accurate meteorologists than the national weather service. pgppLEA6rptIp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
Hello Stuart, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:32:26 +0100GMT Stuart Hemming wrote: SH I've discovered that you can mess with the mainform.def file and that SH works, kind of. However it gets overwritten with each new version so SH it might pay to take a copy and 'diff' it with the new one when you SH get a new version from RitLabs. ever tried the customize option as Marck in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested? It works like a charm over here :-) -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hi Stuart, On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:58:10 +0100 UTC (4/1/2005, 9:58 AM -0600 UTC my time), Stuart Hemming wrote: From today forward, to remain a subscriber to our realm of goodness on the TB lists, it'll cost you $5,000 per month. S Cheap at twice the price! yah, just give him a barrel of oil... -- Gary Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
ever tried the customize option as Marck in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested? It works like a charm over here :-) I didn't see that. Thanks Feli. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Found on a CV: I procrastinate, especially when the task is unpleasant. pgpyiHVyPNA8m.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Re: Changes to the TB Lists
Hello Leif, Great! Send it to me! Do you accept VISA or you want cash? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
ever tried the customize option as Marck in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested? It works like a charm over here :-) I had 'MarkAsRead' set to 'Space' and 'MoveToNetxUnread' set to 'Enter' but I can't get it to accept either of those. Just as a matter of interest, can anyone identify what each of the entries in the 'Select Container' drowpdown represents? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference. pgpHU0PGZgbJa.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 issues
@1-Apr-2005, 15:21 Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB: ... snip MDP 6) AV errors - not logged in except.log MDPNow - let's see. Sometimes these cascade. Sometimes I can get in MDPlong enough to close, but it gets nasty errors on exit... ... and here's what I got on exit last time it happened: System style exception - you know, one of those MS apology screens - Code 0xc005 . Address 0x000040721d Then Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at 721D AV @ 0040721D read of address 0004 Then another system style exception - Code 0xc005 . Address 0x00 Then finally Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at AV @ read of address -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpQ4TegnUqua.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.11 - Cannot send any message!
Hello Boris Anders everyone else, on 01-Apr-2005 at 00:41 you (Boris Anders) wrote: I fear this might be a problem with 1und1 because there are different smtp servers. Depending on which server you actually are redirected to when using smtp.1und1.com it may work or not. I have that problem with 3.0.2.10 too, and most often I can send the message when I simply try again. But with version 3.09.11 you can't send it at all. I have that problem with 3.0.1 RC6, but there a simply try again works, while it never works on 3.09.11. Somethings wrong with either TB or 1und1 anyway (you surely noticed): the 1und1 smtp server says auth (plain), TB tries that, the server responds with incorrect auth data, TB switches to auth (login), and then it works. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) We haven't the time to take our time. (Eugene Ionesco) Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Deferred delivery isn't
I've just set my GMail account to deferred delivery but all messages are still sent as soon as they hit the outbox. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.7.12 Pre-release, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a and Universal Macro eXtender 2.1.1119 rc6 special. VIRUS ERROR: Win95 found - I won't bother, you're in enough trouble! pgp7XSVy4D7F6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hello , The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] UI: AVs in Folder View, Finder [-] SSL : certificate verification [-] Minor : Minimise in Tray menu [-] Minor : Plain Viewer check [-] Minor : QuickSearch disappears Esc [-] Minor : NFS: impossible 'Move in' [-] Minor : checks in View/Windows Split Mode, View/Display, Options/Language -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
Hello Stuart, A reminder of what Stuart Hemming typed on: April 1, 2005 at 17:11:07 GMT +0100 SH I had 'MarkAsRead' set to 'Space' and 'MoveToNetxUnread' set to SH 'Enter' but I can't get it to accept either of those. Did you first add them to a toolbar. This then lets you edit the shortcut. I think you can then remove it from the toolbar and retain the shortcut, but I cannot attest to that. SH Just as a matter of interest, can anyone identify what each of the SH entries in the 'Select Container' drowpdown represents? Not a clue in most cases. The ones that I really need access to don't appear to be there. They are the ones contained in the current menus, like View/Display/Unread Messages Only. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editing shortcut keys
Hello Stuart, I had 'MarkAsRead' set to 'Space' and 'MoveToNetxUnread' set to 'Enter' but I can't get it to accept either of those. I had exactly that working with all pre-betas because it is what I have used for umpteen years. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
On Friday, April 1, 2005 @ 8:35:31 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] UI: AVs in Folder View, Finder [-] SSL : certificate verification [-] Minor : Minimise in Tray menu [-] Minor : Plain Viewer check [-] Minor : QuickSearch disappears Esc [-] Minor : NFS: impossible 'Move in' [-] Minor : checks in View/Windows Split Mode, View/Display, Options/Language Hmm...do we trust a new beta on 4/1 -- Matt Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hi 9Val, Friday, April 1, 2005, 11:35:31 AM, you wrote: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] Minor : QuickSearch disappears Esc Hm, it still doesn't work for me. And the spellchecker bug is still here. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hello Peter, PG Hm, it still doesn't work for me. It should disappear, only if it was showed after typing, since with new system that toolbar can contain other items. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hello Matt, MT Hmm...do we trust a new beta on 4/1 It is a little bit cheaper than TBBETA subscription :) -- 9Val Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hi Matt, Friday, April 1, 2005, 5:39:47 PM, you wrote: MT Hmm...do we trust a new beta on 4/1 I was wondering that, I mean I could be downloading a big exe that pops up and says HAHA -- Best regards, Liz (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Website: http://www.xcalibur.co.uk Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hello Peter, A reminder of what Peter Gannushkin typed on: April 1, 2005 at 11:41:28 GMT -0500 The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: [-] Minor : QuickSearch disappears Esc PG Hm, it still doesn't work for me. PG And the spellchecker bug is still here. Just tested it and it works here. Also where are those moderators, the list footer is wrong again. Obviously that $5000 a month wasn't enough. :) -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.9.12 Return Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Het was op vrijdag 1 april 2005 om 18:39 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available' : Hallo Matt, MT On Friday, April 1, 2005 @ 8:35:31 AM [-0700], 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ MT Hmm...do we trust a new beta on 4/1 I've got balls I'm going for it! :-)) Unfortunately not the change(s) I was hoping/waiting for: messagelistfont still needs the Options-Preferences-OK trick. -- regards, Cees Oh please... the Pentagon lost entire countries [ Jack O'Neill / Stargate ] __ The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return [A12F0392] running on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Warning, lots of AVs in this versions.
Hello Henk, On 01 April 2005 at 16:14:40 GMT +0200 (which was 16:14:40 where I live), Henk de Bruijn wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of Warning, lots of AVs in this versions.: Strange those AV's. I have had them in almost every pre beta. I tried if deleting thebat.exe and after that copying the new thebat.exe would help to solve this, but no. I even make new shortcuts every time I install a new(er) version. But after the computer has been turned of for a rather long period (night), the problem seems to have gone here almost completely. I am reading and typing for almost an hour now and not one AV! One other strange thing just happened when I was looking at an attached screenshot (png), thebat just closed/ended?? I was also fed up with these random AVs but since I used the RAR files (.def, xml, .dll and .png) of 3.09.10 with /ONLY/ the exe of TB 3.09.11, the number of AVs dropped to almost zero. Maybe it's a coincidence but the fact is that the AVs almost disappeared;-) -- Best regards, Dick ___ Do not worry about your difficulties in Mathematics. I can assure you mine are still greater.-- Albert Einstein Using The Bat! v3.0.9.11 Return on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/