Re: Leave Messages on Server
Hallo Stuart, On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:00 -0600GMT (27-3-2005, 20:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SC My theory here is that I would be able to download a given message SC on any of the machines for 21 days from the time I downloaded that SC message on the 21 day machine. After 21 days I had assumed the SC message would be deleted from the server. This appears not to be SC happening as I have messages dating back to January still on the SC server. That should work, but as you have only one system that deletes messages you have to run that system regularly. Apart from that I've experienced that TB can get confused when you change the the time you're keeping your messages, so when you've still got messages from January, but most of February's are missing than this could have happened. In the meantime you can delete the messages you want to get rid of by using the dispatcher. -- Groetjes, Roelof Move away from the tagline. You have ten seconds to comply. The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpYdcSmKIdVF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Leave Messages on Server
Can anyone kindly tell me how I can delete my email address from this list? Thank you, Luigi -Original Message- FROM: : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SENT: lunedì 28 marzo 2005; 10.36 TO: Stuart Cuddy CC: SUBJECT: Leave Messages on Server Hallo Stuart, On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:00 -0600GMT (27-3-2005, 20:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SC My theory here is that I would be able to download a given message SC on any of the machines for 21 days from the time I downloaded that SC message on the 21 day machine. After 21 days I had assumed the SC message would be deleted from the server. This appears not to be SC happening as I have messages dating back to January still on the SC server. That should work, but as you have only one system that deletes messages you have to run that system regularly. Apart from that I've experienced that TB can get confused when you change the the time you're keeping your messages, so when you've still got messages from January, but most of February's are missing than this could have happened. In the meantime you can delete the messages you want to get rid of by using the dispatcher. -- Groetjes, Roelof Move away from the tagline. You have ten seconds to comply. The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leave Messages on Server
Dear Luigi, @28-Mar-2005, 11:11 +0200 (28-Mar 10:11 UK time) Luigi Civilotti [LC] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Roelof: LC Can anyone kindly tell me how I can delete my email LC address from this list? Current version is 3.x | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html The above is appended to the bottom of every message passed through the TB lists. Clicking that link will take you to the page containing all the information you need to manage a subscription on the TB lists. Or, with a message from one of the TB lists selected, you may click on the 'Specials' menu item and choose one of the options from the 'Mailing List' sub-menu. When leaving the list, don't forget to reply to the confirmation request from the list server. Your departure will not complete without it! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpoLoNtgOyFz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: Leave Messages on Server
Hi Stuart, On 27/3/2005 9:26 PM -0600, you wrote: I'd love to but my ISP only allows IMAP for business users. My ISP doesn't offer IMAP either. However, I use IMAP. I run my own server software. The server downloads mail from the remote POP accounts. then work with the mail on my server with IMAP. I connect to the server from work etc. Is this sort of arrangement possible for you? -- Allie Martin -=-=- Old age is better than the alternative. p7swI4uxGsjpY.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: IMAP4 Configuration
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 28/3/2005 12:29 AM -0500, you wrote: IMAP4 a/c has the Inbox, Outbox, etc. Does those count? Anyway, How do I see the messages on the server so that I can select them and drag drop??? Go in the IMAP account properties, navigate to the 'Mail Management' options and ensure that the you enable the options under 'Automatically connect to the server' 'at startup', 'For managing folders', 'When account is selected', and 'By any command'. Clicking on each folder should show their content, since selecting each folder will lead to a header synchronisation provided the connection with the server has been successfully established. If you're not seeing the folder's content then it may be a problem with TB! and your server. When I click on Get new mail (or Connect to Server), I get the Connection Center; but no activity, no messsages, no downloading. Then it time out. [I logged onto its webmail; and there are a few messages there.] In Manage IMAP Folders, for the Inbox, I have a check mark in Subscribe; and do not synchronize. Even if 'do not synchronize' is ticked, selecting the Inbox will still lead to a header sync. The synchronizing options there are for unattended, automatic syncs without the folder being selected. -- Allie Martin -=-=- Show me a sane man. I'll cure him for you. p7sD0DWfYDYCx.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Newsgroup Subscription
Hello , Its been a while since i've had internet access, is the newsgroup list still going. I searched but couldn't find the info on how to subscribe -- Best regards, Zen Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Newsgroup Subscription
Hi Zen, On 28/3/2005 12:07 PM +0100, you wrote: Hello , Its been a while since i've had internet access, is the newsgroup list still going. I searched but couldn't find the info on how to subscribe Visit the tbudlinfo page, the URL for which is in the footer for all list messages. Under the contents menu, hit the Gmane Email to News Gateway link. -- Allie Martin -=-=- Everyone is entitled to my opinion. p7sMFEKLVQM6Q.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Multiple address books
Hello Marck, Saturday, March 26, 2005, 5:56:54 PM, you wrote: MDP He would but for one thing ... he's still using v2 and this was only MDP introduced as a v3 feature. Thank you Marck and Roman, Am I to assume then that v3 supports completely separate address books and FAVORITES in one address book won't appear when the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE pull-down FAVORITES is accessed from the other account? I hope the previous paragraph made some sense. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now running TB! v2.11.02 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multiple address books
Dear Jack, @27-Mar-2005, 17:03 -0600 (28-Mar 00:03 UK time) Jack S. LaRosa [JSL] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: MDP He would but for one thing ... he's still using v2 and this was only MDP introduced as a v3 feature. JSL Am I to assume then that v3 supports completely separate address JSL books and FAVORITES in one address book won't appear when the JSL CREATE A NEW MESSAGE pull-down FAVORITES is accessed from the JSL other account? Only ISFA v3 supports the use of XP Account local data using the Documents and Settings\(account)\Application data directory to store mail and address books. Under v3's use of XP Account Identity data areas, there is much less cross contamination. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.9.10 Return on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpHwYMvXqslb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP and searching?
Hello TBUDL, i also tried out IMAP now and i'm confused, since there is no option to search, not even in the mail headers... Did i miss something or is that not possible with TB! -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 3:06 PM +0200, you wrote: i also tried out IMAP now and i'm confused, since there is no option to search, not even in the mail headers... Did i miss something or is that not possible with TB! What do you mean no option to search. You have all searching options at your disposal. The search dialog doesn't seem to work since there's no progress bar to look at and it always claims the search is complete. However, if you wait, the matching messages eventually appear. Uncomfortable interface issues, I grant you. The alt-click and quick searching also work. -- Allie Martin My System Specs here: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- You can never get rid of a bad temper by losing it. p7swzFlAjrIqW.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:12:13 PM (675 Beats): What do you mean no option to search. You have all searching options at your disposal. For a full text search, i guess, i have to make a full sync - is that right? The search dialog doesn't seem to work since there's no progress bar to look at and it always claims the search is complete. However, if you wait, the matching messages eventually appear. Uncomfortable interface issues, I grant you. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Thank you, gotta give that a try. -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpxev96YSMH7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 3:18 PM +0200, you wrote: For a full text search, i guess, i have to make a full sync - is that right? Actually, no. It'll just work, but it wouldn't be as fast as if you had all message bodies locally cached. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Hold down the alt button while clicking on any item in the message list. TB! will list all messages containing the same message list element. So if you wish to see all messages from me, just hold down the alt button and click on my name in the message list. You can do the same for message subject, and the various flags. You may wish to see all messages with attachments. Just alt-click on the attachment icon in a message containing an attachment. It's a great feature. The quick search works by just typing in the message list field, the string that you're searching for. The quick search will do only message list searches. Not whole message searches. -- Allie Martin -=-=- Get the facts first - you can distort them later! p7sAR3j2tzm51.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Leave Messages on Server
Hello Luigi, Monday, March 28, 2005, 3:11:24 AM, you wrote: LC Can anyone kindly tell me how I can delete my email LC address from this list? Thank you, LC Luigi I think if you click on the link below there is directions to be removed from the list. http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:30:23 PM (687 Beats): Actually, no. It'll just work, but it wouldn't be as fast as if you had all message bodies locally cached. Well, the only search method that works for me, is the alt-click-method (how do i return from those search results to normal view). The other two don't work. Funny too is, that i can't quoute mails with F4, i only get a blank template - only a reply works. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Hold down the alt button while clicking on any item in the message list. TB! will list all messages containing the same message list element. So if you wish to see all messages from me, just hold down the alt button and click on my name in the message list. You can do the same for message subject, and the various flags. You may wish to see all messages with attachments. Just alt-click on the attachment icon in a message containing an attachment. It's a great feature. The quick search works by just typing in the message list field, the string that you're searching for. The quick search will do only message list searches. Not whole message searches. -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:30:23 PM (687 Beats): Actually, no. It'll just work, but it wouldn't be as fast as if you had all message bodies locally cached. Well, the only search method that works for me, is the alt-click-method (how do i return from those search results to normal view). The other two don't work. Funny too is, that i can't quoute mails with F4, i only get a blank template - only a reply works. The alt-click and quick searching also work. How to use those? Hold down the alt button while clicking on any item in the message list. TB! will list all messages containing the same message list element. So if you wish to see all messages from me, just hold down the alt button and click on my name in the message list. You can do the same for message subject, and the various flags. You may wish to see all messages with attachments. Just alt-click on the attachment icon in a message containing an attachment. It's a great feature. The quick search works by just typing in the message list field, the string that you're searching for. The quick search will do only message list searches. Not whole message searches. -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
And finally, i see you can sign your messages. However, PGP doesn't seem to work when i chose my IMAP account as my sending account in templates... -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgplj2eAmMxOl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Ralph Inselsbacher wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:50:15 PM (701 Beats): And finally, i see you can sign your messages. However, PGP doesn't seem to work when i chose my IMAP account as my sending account in templates... Oops. It sometimes works and sometimes doesn't... -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpsyMEd16Rbs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 3:46 PM +0200, you wrote: Well, the only search method that works for me, is the alt-click-method (how do i return from those search results to normal view). The other two don't work. Hmmm. Current TB! IMAP is such that I really can't speak with confidence about what you should be experiencing. It may very well be that the search isn't working for you since, for message body searches, TB! queries the server and the search is done on the server. The results are then sent back to TB!. This why the search dialog just sits there claiming the search was done and no matches found. You wait and then the matches suddenly appear. Funny too is, that i can't quoute mails with F4, i only get a blank template - only a reply works. Do you first select what it is you wish to quote? F4 will quote only what you select. If nothing is selected, nothing is quoted. Of course, you very likely already know this and are just pointing out erratic behaviour on your system. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- People say I'm apathetic, but I don't care. p7s3qJ8zUHUTo.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 3:50 PM +0200, you wrote: And finally, i see you can sign your messages. However, PGP doesn't seem to work when i chose my IMAP account as my sending account in templates... BTW, I see that you're running a beta version, and a beta version that I simply couldn't use for IMAP. The last decent beta for IMAP was v3.0.2.8. I'd try that one instead. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- People say I'm apathetic, but I don't care. p7sTpG3Rh8Zuq.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 3:58:04 PM (706 Beats): Hmmm. Current TB! IMAP is such that I really can't speak with confidence about what you should be experiencing. It may very well be that the search isn't working for you since, for message body searches, TB! queries the server and the search is done on the server. The results are then sent back to TB!. This why the search dialog just sits there claiming the search was done and no matches found. You wait and then the matches suddenly appear. That's a pity, because Thunderbird and Outlook 2003 really seem to cache the mails because one can search. Do you first select what it is you wish to quote? F4 will quote only what you select. If nothing is selected, nothing is quoted. Of course, you very likely already know this and are just pointing out erratic behaviour on your system. Sorry, simply forgot 'bout selecting what to quoute before... -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpgyIo94FSPS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Leave Messages on Server
Hello Allie, Monday, March 28, 2005, 4:29:10 AM, you wrote: I'd love to but my ISP only allows IMAP for business users. AM My ISP doesn't offer IMAP either. However, I use IMAP. I run my own AM server software. The server downloads mail from the remote POP AM accounts. then work with the mail on my server with IMAP. I connect to AM the server from work etc. Is this sort of arrangement possible for you? This is interesting. Does your IMAP machine run all the time and constantly download messages or do you have to tell it do it manually? I'm a little reluctant to try this right now with IMAP in the state its in (in The Bat!). The current way I do things is working, but I was just wondering why I didn't seem to get the results I was after. As Roelof said, I can always delete the messages with Mail Dispatcher, which I love BTW. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hello Ralph, Monday, March 28, 2005, 7:46:40 AM, you wrote: RI Well, the only search method that works for me, is the alt-click-method RI (how do i return from those search results to normal view). The other two RI don't work. To get the quick search to work you first have to select a message in the list. In other words your main highlight has to be in the list area and not on the message itself or in the folder list. Once it is there if you start typing a box should pop up with the letter you just typed. The first message to match this letter will now be highlighted. As you continue typing the message selected will change to match what you are typing. In the latest beta, once the selection you are trying to find is typed if you push enter you will get a list of all matches only (much like the Alt+click method). -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:00:35 PM (708 Beats): BTW, I see that you're running a beta version, and a beta version that I simply couldn't use for IMAP. AFAIK, my version was is the latest release version... confused now... -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgp2VhTOAc5DZ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hello Ralph, Monday, March 28, 2005, 8:20:10 AM, you wrote: BTW, I see that you're running a beta version, and a beta version that I simply couldn't use for IMAP. RI AFAIK, my version was is the latest release version... confused now... Yes, I believe it is. And given that fact you may straighten out some of you problems by getting the version Allie mentioned which was the last more or less stable beta that solved some of the issues with your version. (Note: your mileage may vary) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 4:16 PM +0200, you wrote: That's a pity, because Thunderbird and Outlook 2003 really seem to cache the mails because one can search. For IMAP, you don't need to cache mail bodies to search. You shouldn't have to do that. ThunderBird doesn't cache mail bodies for searching. It queries the server. Same for Mulberry, the client I'm currently using most often. If you have a relatively slow connection, you couldn't do searches if you had to cache everything locally for searching. I've never used Outlook, so I can't speak for it. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- A closed mouth gathers no feet. p7syXfyumbm7o.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[4]: Leave Messages on Server
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 28/3/2005 8:18 AM -0600, you wrote: This is interesting. Does your IMAP machine run all the time and constantly download messages or do you have to tell it do it manually? My working machine which happens to run MDaemon Pro, my IMAP server software, is always running yes. Hence, it doesn't have to be installed on a dedicated machine, though that is more desirable (no space for me). MDaemon is always running and I ignore it most times. It polls my remote POP accounts at intervals and downloads them to a local account which I manage using IMAP. I'm a little reluctant to try this right now with IMAP in the state its in (in The Bat!). I can understand this. I guess it's a decision one has to make, i.e., which is more important TB!, or the choice of protocol. For me, it's the choice of protocol. I found it a bitter situation having to put TB! aside as my main client, especially after so many years of being utterly satisfied with it and having no interest in other clients. It's still *the* POP client to use by a comfortable margin. However, if I were to do things again, I'd have started using IMAP earlier! It is *the* way to go when managing the same mail from multiple machines. The current way I do things is working, but I was just wondering why I didn't seem to get the results I was after. As Roelof said, I can always delete the messages with Mail Dispatcher, which I love BTW. Ok. Good luck with it. My main problem with your method is the message flagging. When you move from one location to another, all the mail you read in the previous location will be downloaded and marked unread at the new location. It is often difficult to find the really new mail. Sometimes it's a matter of hundreds of messages to sift through with about half really unread. With IMAP, there are no such issues. Each location gives the current account status in all respects. It's as if you were always working at each location. This is fundamental, and for me, though I miss them, none of TB!'s specialized features will make me do without these basic benefits offered by the IMAP protocol when managing the same accounts from multiple machines. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- A closed mouth gathers no feet. p7sIBF45EWO13.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Allie Martin wrote on Monday, March 28, 2005 4:26:03 PM (726 Beats): For IMAP, you don't need to cache mail bodies to search. You shouldn't have to do that. ThunderBird doesn't cache mail bodies for searching. It queries the server. Same for Mulberry, the client I'm currently using most often. You're right. Neither Thunderbird nor Outlook do cache. It seems my provider doesn't offer a server-search, so my only way to search are message headers. As for bandwith: i use a 2mbit line, so that shouldn't be the bottleneck, i guess. Gotta try out the newer version you mentioned... -- Regards, Ralph|mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |PGP Key ID: 0x5F1A33E3 Running The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 pgpXkPrqkxPut.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 4:20 PM +0200, you wrote: AFAIK, my version was is the latest release version... confused now... Don't be. I'm the one confused. You're right!!! Sorry. :) IMAP is always changing. It's like a sinus wave of improvements and setbacks. I'd say IMAP was at a peak with the beta version 3.0.2.8. It then took a steep dip in reliability with the introduction of multiple server connection support with v3.0.2.10 . -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- How does one expect the unexpected? p7scDvAVxGlH4.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spamcop filters
Hello tbudl, What are the spamcop filters for v3? I cannot find them anywhere Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone Vodafone +353879120530 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Leave Messages on Server
Hello Allie, Monday, March 28, 2005, 8:38:51 AM, you wrote: AM My working machine which happens to run MDaemon Pro, Is it expensive? AM I found it a bitter situation having to put TB! aside as my main client Yes I have been following your trials and tribulations with IMAP and miss your succinct explanations. AM Ok. Good luck with it. My big problem at home is currently my inability to send replies or attachments. The only thing I changed, I think, is that I added a router. When I reply, if the message is a little too big, it times out and the message does not get sent. When I say a little too big, I'm talking the last message I sent to you would not go and I had to recreate the message in webmail, hence the reason it is not threaded properly. My guess is this message is already too big and I will have to do the same. If I had cut everything you said and just said thank you it probably would have gone. Any ideas. Anyone. I was right, it did not send. This is now coming from webmail and will not thread properly in pre alpha/beta versions. Ironically, and much to Miguel's chagrin, this will probably thread in the alpha/beta versions because of the much hated thread by Reference/Subject capability. :) -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP and searching?
Hi Ralph, On 28/3/2005 4:48 PM +0200, you wrote: As for bandwith: i use a 2mbit line, so that shouldn't be the bottleneck, i guess. That depends on the throughput your IMAP server allows. Bandwidth throttling may be there. However, if you are getting a 2Mbit connection then it shouldn't be a problem for you to retrieve all message bodies to cache for searching. Gotta try out the newer version you mentioned... Yes. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. p7sFVYIz7sMTH.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[6]: Leave Messages on Server
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], On 28/3/2005 9:13 AM -0600, you wrote: Is it expensive? Yes. An MDaemon Pro license for 6 user accounts is US$330. However, it's as good as they come. OTOH, there's Mercury/32 that could be used. It has its IMAP server as well. That one is certainly useable. However, I've been using MDaemon for a long time. First as a POP user and then upgraded to the Pro license for IMAP. Yes I have been following your trials and tribulations with IMAP and miss your succinct explanations. ... and I guess you now see that I couldn't hold out. Frustration overtook me. :( My big problem at home is currently my inability to send replies or attachments. The only thing I changed, I think, is that I added a router. When I reply, if the message is a little too big, it times out and the message does not get sent. Very odd. Any ideas. Anyone. I draw a blank here. Can you send OK using any other client or is it just SMTP and TB! specifically? Have you tried your own SMTP server? Are you allowed this? -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure. p7skixnEGugrf.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Send Message to a Recipent
I'm getting an error whenever I send a message to a specific recipient in The Bat. I know that the address is correct. I can send a message to him using my web-based interface. I can also send a message to another account on the same e-mail domain. The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? Thanks. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Michael Rudnick @ 2005-Mar-28 11:40:25 AM Can't Send Message to a Recipent mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? Try without the angle brackets, if you added them. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. At a tire shop in Milwaukee: Invite us to your next blowout. pgpR2BiGaS2ih.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How to set orders for displaying messages for each account?
Hi On Monday 28 March 2005 at 2:47:57 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you a Global View Mode set? (see View menu in main TB! window) I have a black dot next to Generic ViewMode Suggest selecting No View Mode instead. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Chris, Monday, March 28, 2005, 2:16:14 PM, you wrote: C Michael Rudnick @ 2005-Mar-28 11:40:25 AM C Can't Send Message to a Recipent C mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The error message I get is: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. Any ideas on how I can address this problem? C Try without the angle brackets, if you added them. Nope. I put in the address without anything and it didn't work. Then I tried sending to another address in the e-mail domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and it went without a problem. -- Michael Rudnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 5.1 (2600) Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
On Monday, March 28, 2005 @ 5:58:04 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: This why the search dialog just sits there claiming the search was done and no matches found. You wait and then the matches suddenly appear. Ugh. This is such a bad feature. I don't know how many times I've closed down the search window thinking it just wasn't working. I only discovered this when I left it open by mistake and suddenly saw all kinds of results on my search. At the least it should say something like Querying server -- Matt Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: IMAP and searching?
Hi Matt, On 28/3/2005 12:53 PM -0800, you wrote: Ugh. This is such a bad feature. I don't know how many times I've closed down the search window thinking it just wasn't working. I only discovered this when I left it open by mistake and suddenly saw all kinds of results on my search. At the least it should say something like Querying server TB! IMAP is built on the legacy of TB!'s POP support. As a result there are many issues like this one. Filtering and sound alerts are other aspects that suffer quirky or erratic functionality for IMAP. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- The pendulum has gone full circle. p7sLHmdKlkbWG.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Hallo Michael, On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:40:25 -0500GMT (28-3-2005, 18:40 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MR I'm getting an error whenever I send a message to a specific recipient MR in The Bat. I know that the address is correct. I can send a message MR to him using my web-based interface. I can also send a message to MR another account on the same e-mail domain. What happens when you try to send the message from a different account? -- Groetjes, Roelof Support lesser lifeforms ... take a moderator to lunch. The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpXNLCUI8BG0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Hello Michael, On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:40:25 -0500 GMT (28/03/2005, 23:40 +0700 GMT), Michael Rudnick wrote: MR The error message I get is: MR SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] MR The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. MR Any ideas on how I can address this problem? There may be a non-printable character in the email address, and whenever you try to send him a message, TB autocompletes. So, try this: Open a New Message window, type the full address manually (not allowing auto-complete) and send him a test message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Every time a person turns on the television to see the news, he instantly sees what he wants and what concerns him. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Send Message to a Recipent
Hi, On Monday, March 28, 2005 at 6:40:25 PM, Michael Rudnick wrote: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - Invalid recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message never leaves The Bat. It remains in the Outbox. A DNS error ? -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.0.1.33 on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
