[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

[Jon]

Great poster but really not keen on the "messy"

Jon

On Monday, 12 January 2015 10:26:52 UTC, Mat wrote:
>
> Fellow tiddlywikians, it is with *great* pride I announce that we have 
> our first TiddlyWiki poster! 
>
> Jeremy expressed his liking and he and Duarte did the finishing job so 
> that we now have [drumroll]
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/poster
>
> Thanks to the - not only astonishing art work of Duarte - but also his 
> generous "extra work" (for lack of a better term), there are *multiple* 
> versions, including a pdf-version 
>  for 
> direct printout on a common A4 / letter size paper. Easy as pie!!!
>
> Where is the best place to put it up? Can you think of somewhere? Imagine 
> if there were a few people around you who also enjoyed TiddlyWiki that you 
> could tiddlefiddle with :-)
>
> Who here will be the *first* to put one up?
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] [TW5] I asked a question a long time ago and it is still relevant today

[RichShumaker]

I was researching me and I read something I wrote a long time ago.
It is actually very relevant now as we are discussing eating our own dog 
food methods for this forum.

I would think one of the first steps would be to download all the TW Google 
Group Data(and Dev Data), Parse It, and Inject it into a TW5.
Anyone have any clues on how to even start to do something like this?

Ideally we could start our own TW5 "forum thing" in the future with all the 
data from the past and a method to show only TW5 or just TWC data.

Let me know what you guys think and as always thank you for your help.

Rich Shumaker

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

[RichShumaker]

>
> So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
>> other sites  to TiddlyWiki 5?
>>
>
> I'm totally happy with FontAwesome, but emoticons... God beware. ^^
>

The happy is on my face because you said that as it is too true 

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Table of Content generate from tags

[James]

Hi All,

First of all, I am aware of the existing function "TableOfContentsMacro 
Expandable", but the function only show the hierarchy of tags and sub-tags.

I am looking for a solution to automate the Table of Content using the tags.

For instance,

Economics
- Journals
- Articles
Business
- Journals
- Whitepaper

:. Tiddlers that tagged with "Journals" are tagged with "Economics".  Those 
tiddlers tagged with "Journals" and NOT "Economics" will no show in the 
list.

I have a bunch of journals categories into different subjects and 
categories.  How can I generate a list like above?

Thanks for your time.  I apology if the explanation is too confusing.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[f10]

Never mind, I figured it out!

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 6:51:08 PM UTC-8, f10 wrote:
>
> I apologize if this has been addressed elsewhere in this thread, but does 
> this allow the use of multiple-word aliases? For example:
> |first|first tiddler|the first tiddler|
>
> If so, is there a certain way I should be formatting the code to 
> accomplish that?
>
> I appreciate all the help!
> Faith
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>>
>> Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 
>>>
>> Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.
>>>
>>
>> Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...
>>
>> http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
>> 
>>
>> Best wishes, Tobias.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[f10]

I apologize if this has been addressed elsewhere in this thread, but does 
this allow the use of multiple-word aliases? For example:
|first|first tiddler|the first tiddler|

If so, is there a certain way I should be formatting the code to accomplish 
that?

I appreciate all the help!
Faith

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
>
> Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 
>>
> Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.
>>
>
> Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...
>
> http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
> 
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Danielo,
 

> I am currently working on a new version of the plugin, with less bugs, 
>> better features, and much easier to customize. Its not yet finished but 
>> usable enough. I just uploaded it so you can take advantage of the 
>> customization enhancements: magictabs.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>
> But this is not compatible with the previous version right?
>

No. There a two incompatibilities:

   1. Tiddler names: all the tiddler names containing $:/…*/amp/BT/*… have 
   changes to $:/…*/amp/MagicTabs/*… I did the change using the 
   search/replace of a text editor.
   2. Tabs fields: fields like *filter* and *template* have changed to 
   *list.filter* and *list.template*, and other fields have been added.
  - That affects also the macros <>, <> and 
  <>.
  - But if you didn't create your own custom tabs, I think it should 
  not affect you.
   
Another problem is that the refactoring is not finished and I have not 
tested enough, so MagicTabs could be atm even more buggy than BottomTabs.


 

> I'm glad you find it useful. Unfortunately, the plugin for teachers is in 
>> a very early phase of development, so there's not much features. 
>>
> Well, I don't want to use it as a teacher, but to give the students a good 
> material where they can take notes and ideas.
>

Then the basic plugin could be enough since I added as default tabs: 
comments, notes, ideas…



 

>  The field "parent" is just a way to categorize your contents, you can use 
> it as you wish. There's no restriction.
> But I did not find any button or field to "automatically" create a new 
> tiddler as a child.
>

For the "parent" field, there's no button atm. But if you use the 
form+button in the tabs to add a comment, a note, an idea, etc., it will 
automatically be added as a child (through the fields "about" or "source") 
in the info tab.
 

Nice to hear that. I miss the forms at the sidebar to add new tiddlers of 
> each type. Are they still there?
>

No, there's only a button for adding people. Use instead the form+button 
inside the tabs, or, if you want independent notes and ideas, use the 
MagicTabs tiddler to add them. The other buttons have not been created so 
far.

 

> This is very powerful. Maybe you can use this small explanation to add it 
> to the documentation.
>

After I finish v.0.2 of the plugin, I will dedicate v.0.3 to documentation. 
New features moratorium :p



 

>  No termino de ver claro cómo añadir nuevas pestañas. Ok, creo un tiddler 
> y le pongo una tag que empieze con $:/type/algo, pero luego dónde defino 
> las tabs? Dónde aparecerán esas tabs? En todos los tiddlers?
>

Its very easy: if you create a tiddler tagged $:/tabs/foo, it will appear 
as a bottom tab in every tiddler tagged $:/type/foo and only there (unless 
you choose to have it as a default tab, and you can do that with the tag 
$:/action/is/default, or go to the control panel, under appearance and 
magic tabs tweaks). 

I explain how to create custom new types and tabs in 5 easy tabs here: 
http://youtabs.tiddlyspot.com/

 

Ahora es más fácil crear nuevas pestañas. Basta con clonar el patrón 
>> ($:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/templates/tab) y rellenar los campos que quieras, 
>> especialmente:
>>
>
> Con ahora te refieres a la última versión que estás desarollando o también 
> incluye la anterior?
>

Yes, with the MagicTabs revision, it is much easier to create new tabs (and 
it will be even easier when I finish) because the macros <> 
and <> use default parameters. It is enough to fill the field 
contents.tag with a tag to get a working tab with a list of results that 
you can customize filling other fields. It is detailed in 
http://youtabs.tiddlyspot.com/


>>- *contents.tag:* ahí indicas la etiqueta de los tiddlers que quieres 
>>que aparezcan en la pestaña. Por ejemplo: "$:/type/comments", 
>>"$:/type/journal", "tasks", etc.
>>
>> Ok, creo que esto está relacionado con la pregunta anterior en la que te 
> preguntaba cómo definir tabs, pero creo que se me escapa algo.  
>

If you want a tab showing a list of journal tiddlers, add the 
field+content: "*contents.tag: $:/type/journal*" to that tab tiddler.
 

Saludos,

Alberto

>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Tobias and all,

I have created a demo of YouTube plugin working and MagicTabs plugin 
working together: youtabs.tiddlyspot.com

   - It shows a tab with annotations at the bottom of every video tiddler. 
   - It lacks a template tiddler to show the list of annotations (easy to 
   add, but depends on your preferences).

The process of creating custom new magic tabs is explained in 5 easy steps. 

Regards,

Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

Hi Tobias,

Sorry if I misunderstood. I got the impression we were talking slightly at 
cross-purposes, so felt the need to clarify further. But we're in agreement.

"Manual link" isn't bad.

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Astrid Elocson]

Hi Tobias,

> They could even be shorter, if that's feasible.

Good idea – done.

The shorter arrow also means I no longer need to artificially increase the 
height of the backward arc to avoid a cramped appearance.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

[Arc Acorn]

Thanks a ton again Tobias!
Works great, and will make my sister way happy. 
She's not super savvy with CSS so she wanted an easy way to apply and 
switch through a small number of different mini-themes per each tiddler. 


P/s 
As a note to anybody else if they ever use this:
For some reason Google decided to "quote" parts of the code so make sure to 
expand it and than delete the two "- hide quoted text -" after pasting into 
your tiddlywiki.


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 1:36:44 PM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Arc,
>
> the problem is in *ThemedTiddlerPlugin*, not *ListBoxPlugin*,
> it sets the class at the tiddler but never removes the old class when 
> applying the new one.
>
> I changed it to remember the *oldTheme*. Try this...
>
> /***
> |''Name:''|ThemedTiddlerPlugin |
> |''Description:''|Per-Tiddler Mini-Themes |
> |''Author:''|PaulDowney (psd (at) osmosoft (dot) com) |
> |''Source:''|http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/ |
> |''CodeRepository:''|
> http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/
>  
> |
> |''Version:''|0.2 — fix Tobias Beer (oldTheme)|
> |''License:''|[[BSD License|
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php]] |
> |''Comments:''|Please make comments at 
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/TiddlyWikiDev |
> |''~CoreVersion:''|2.4|
> !!Documentation
> The extended field "theme" is used to reference a tiddler containing a 
> "mini-theme"
>
>
> A mini-theme is a tiddler containing a [[ViewTemplate]], [[EditTemplate]] 
> and [[StyleSheet]] sections which are applied when the tiddler is 
> displayed. 
>
>
> In addition, a CSS class of the theme name is added to the tiddler which 
> may be useful when writing a mini-theme [[StyleSheet]]. 
> !!Code
> ***/
> //{{{
> /*jslint onevar: false nomen: false plusplus: false */
> /*global Story, store, setStylesheet, addClass */
> if (!version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin) {
> version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin = {installed: true};
>
> Story.prototype.__chooseTemplateForTiddler = Story.prototype.
> chooseTemplateForTiddler;
> Story.prototype.chooseTemplateForTiddler = function (title, n)
> {
> // translate number into template name
> var template = ["ViewTemplate", "EditTemplate"][n ? n - 1 : 0];
>
> var tiddler = store.getTiddler(title);
>
> if (tiddler) {
> var theme = tiddler.fields.theme;
> if (theme) {
>
> // assert stylesheet
> var style = store.getTiddlerText(theme + '##StyleSheet');
> if (style) {
> setStylesheet(style, theme);
> }
>
> // return theme template
> var slice = theme + '##' + template;
> if (store.getTiddlerText(slice)) {
> return slice;
> }
> }
> }
>
> // default template
> return this.__chooseTemplateForTiddler.apply(this, arguments);
> };
>
> // assert theme name as a class on the tiddler
> Story.prototype.__refreshTiddler = Story.prototype.refreshTiddler;
> Story.prototype.refreshTiddler = function (title, template, force, 
> customFields, defaultText)
> {
> var tiddlerElem = this.__refreshTiddler.apply(this, arguments),
> tiddler = store.getTiddler(title),
> oldTheme = tiddlerElem.getAttribute("oldTheme") || "",
> newTheme = store.getTiddler(title).fields.theme;
>
> if (tiddler) {
> removeClass(tiddlerElem, oldTheme);
> tiddlerElem.setAttribute("oldTheme", newTheme);
> addClass(tiddlerElem, newTheme);
> }
> return tiddlerElem;
> };
> }
> //}}}
>
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Tobias Beer]

>
> Indeed. But the author of the JavaScript library underlying the widget was 
> aiming to reproduce the appearance of the railroad diagrams on the JSON 
> site , and those lack arrows. So the widget makes 
> the arrows optional.
>

Sure, technically you don't need them.
It just pops out quite nicely.

They could even be shorter,
if that's feasible.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Tobias Beer]

>
> Let me suggest a less abstract example, then. Your tb5 site offers a 
> macro for colouring text . One 
> can easily imagine passing a whole sentence, e.g. a warning message, to 
> this macro, and that sentence could contain a link. That link would not be 
> detected by the link-tracking system that drives the References and Orphans 
> tabs.
>

I know that it wouldn't and I think it could and perhaps should.

> There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double 
> quotes or triple double quotes for strings and reserve double square 
> brackets for tiddler titles only.
>
> But that still wouldn't solve the general case in which a quote-delimited 
> parameter can contain a double-square-bracketed link as *part* of its 
> content.
>

Whichever way the backlinks parser works, it would have to take care of 
that by having some kind of special parsing mode that includes macro 
parameters and element attributes, or simply matches anything in double 
square brackets that doesn't contain newlines.

> Perhaps "tiddler-links", or TiddlyLinks but not "static links".
>
> I agree that "static" isn't the right word, but the alternatives you 
> suggest could apply equally well to links generated on the fly by macros 
> and widgets and whatnot. Perhaps we could speak of a "literal" link – a 
> link that is literally present in the text field of a tiddler.
>

How about a "manual link"?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Astrid Elocson]

Indeed. But the author of the JavaScript library underlying the widget was 
aiming to reproduce the appearance of the railroad diagrams on the JSON site 
, and those lack arrows. So the widget makes the 
arrows optional.

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

[Astrid Elocson]

Agreed. In fact I almost mentioned that in my initial reply.

TemplateOrder sounds almost mystical :)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[f10]

Thank you for this, Tobias.
I'll try it out right now

Again, thanks!
Faith

On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 8:34:21 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
>
> Maybe you could use http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com 
>>
> Look for the tiddler called *Aliases*.
>>
>
> Did some recoding, simplifying, and so forth...
>
> http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#alink 
> 
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

[Tobias Beer]

>
> The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging
>

Possibly not the best spot to explain that, though.
Better have a TemplateOrder or some such.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

Hi Tobias,

> that looks like poor use of double square brackets to me...

Let me suggest a less abstract example, then. Your tb5 site offers a macro 
for colouring text . One can 
easily imagine passing a whole sentence, e.g. a warning message, to this 
macro, and that sentence could contain a link. That link would not be 
detected by the link-tracking system that drives the References and Orphans 
tabs.

> There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double 
quotes or triple double quotes for strings and reserve double square 
brackets for tiddler titles only.

But that still wouldn't solve the general case in which a quote-delimited 
parameter can contain a double-square-bracketed link as *part* of its 
content.

> Perhaps "tiddler-links", or TiddlyLinks but not "static links".

I agree that "static" isn't the right word, but the alternatives you 
suggest could apply equally well to links generated on the fly by macros 
and widgets and whatnot. Perhaps we could speak of a "literal" link – a 
link that is literally present in the text field of a tiddler.

– æ

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Tobias Beer]

>
> http://ae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com/
> The arrow can be turned off by setting the $railroad widget's arrow 
> attribute to "no".
>

Who would ever want to turn that off? ^^

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

[Tobias Beer]

>
> So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
> other sites  to TiddlyWiki 5?
>

I'm totally happy with FontAwesome, but emoticons... God beware. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Arc,

the problem is in *ThemedTiddlerPlugin*, not *ListBoxPlugin*,
it sets the class at the tiddler but never removes the old class when 
applying the new one.

I changed it to remember the *oldTheme*. Try this...

/***
|''Name:''|ThemedTiddlerPlugin |
|''Description:''|Per-Tiddler Mini-Themes |
|''Author:''|PaulDowney (psd (at) osmosoft (dot) com) |
|''Source:''|http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/ |
|''CodeRepository:''|http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/ThemedTiddlerPlugin/
 
|
|''Version:''|0.2 — fix Tobias Beer (oldTheme)|
|''License:''|[[BSD 
License|http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php]] |
|''Comments:''|Please make comments at 
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/TiddlyWikiDev |
|''~CoreVersion:''|2.4|
!!Documentation
The extended field "theme" is used to reference a tiddler containing a 
"mini-theme"


A mini-theme is a tiddler containing a [[ViewTemplate]], [[EditTemplate]] 
and [[StyleSheet]] sections which are applied when the tiddler is 
displayed. 


In addition, a CSS class of the theme name is added to the tiddler which 
may be useful when writing a mini-theme [[StyleSheet]]. 
!!Code
***/
//{{{
/*jslint onevar: false nomen: false plusplus: false */
/*global Story, store, setStylesheet, addClass */
if (!version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin) {
version.extensions.ThemedTiddlerPlugin = {installed: true};

Story.prototype.__chooseTemplateForTiddler = Story.prototype.
chooseTemplateForTiddler;
Story.prototype.chooseTemplateForTiddler = function (title, n)
{
// translate number into template name
var template = ["ViewTemplate", "EditTemplate"][n ? n - 1 : 0];

var tiddler = store.getTiddler(title);

if (tiddler) {
var theme = tiddler.fields.theme;
if (theme) {

// assert stylesheet
var style = store.getTiddlerText(theme + '##StyleSheet');
if (style) {
setStylesheet(style, theme);
}

// return theme template
var slice = theme + '##' + template;
if (store.getTiddlerText(slice)) {
return slice;
}
}
}

// default template
return this.__chooseTemplateForTiddler.apply(this, arguments);
};

// assert theme name as a class on the tiddler
Story.prototype.__refreshTiddler = Story.prototype.refreshTiddler;
Story.prototype.refreshTiddler = function (title, template, force, 
customFields, defaultText)
{
var tiddlerElem = this.__refreshTiddler.apply(this, arguments),
tiddler = store.getTiddler(title),
oldTheme = tiddlerElem.getAttribute("oldTheme") || "",
newTheme = store.getTiddler(title).fields.theme;

if (tiddler) {
removeClass(tiddlerElem, oldTheme);
tiddlerElem.setAttribute("oldTheme", newTheme);
addClass(tiddlerElem, newTheme);
}
return tiddlerElem;
};
}
//}}}


Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Astrid,
 

> While it's possible to use double square brackets to delimit a macro 
> parameter, these are merely an alternative for quotes. They have no link 
> semantics.
>

Not intrinsically, that is true...
as parameters they're just another way to enclose string literals.
However, in general, that's how they're used, not just in internal / pretty 
links.

For example, given `\define emphasis(_) //$_$//`, the call `< [[Target Tiddler]]>>` returns `//Target Tiddler//` rather than any kind of 
> link to Target Tiddler.
>

Sure, but I wouldn't write it that way if emphasis was the purpose of my 
macro.
Then I would use it like <> ...and that's how it 
should be recommended.
 

> I believe a macro parameter is *always* a mere string of characters, no 
> matter how it's passed. 
>
Even if you use the $macrocall widget,
>
>   <$macrocall $name=emphasis _="[[Target Tiddler]]"/>
>
> the parameter remains a string, in this case `[[Target Tiddler]]`.
>

While technically correct,
that looks like poor use of double square brackets to me...
and not what anyone would intrinsically do just to emphasize text,
rather than a link... it's entirely confusing markup.

The issue is that macros are dynamic, so they're not really suitable 
> candidates for the rapid indexing relied on by things like [backlinks[]] 
> and [all[orphans]].
>

Sometimes, it is vital to be aware of those references, something where TWc 
also fell short.
There could well be a recommendation to always use single or double quotes 
or triple double quotes for strings
and reserve double square brackets for tiddler titles only.

I wonder if the message "No tiddlers link to this one" on the References tab
>  
>
ought to say "No tiddlers contain static links to this one"?
>

Perhaps "tiddler-links", or TiddlyLinks but not "static links".

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

[Birthe C]

Hi Matthew

I had the same experience in Windows 7. I tried on Linux (Ubuntu 12.04) 
also, no reaction at all.


Birthe


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 8:51:51 PM UTC+1, Matthew DeAbreu wrote:
>
> I seem to be having a slight problem with 0.0.4, I just downloaded it on 
> my work machine (Windows 8.1 Pro x64) and when I try to start it a window 
> briefly appears before quickly disappearing. After that 3 nw.exe remain in 
> the task manager but nothing seems to be happening. Do you know if any 
> logfiles are created so I can help find the cause of this problem?
>

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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

[Rustem]

Awesome! Thank you so much. Empty was too high, I gave it a value of 
"$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body".

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 12:49:30 PM UTC-8, Astrid Elocson wrote:
>
> Give your tiddler a list-before field, but leave its value empty.
>
> The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging
>
> – æ
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[tw] Re: Add to top of ViewTemplate

[Astrid Elocson]

Give your tiddler a list-before field, but leave its value empty.

The techniques available are the same as described for tag ordering at 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Astrid Elocson]

I've just added a feature that I think greatly improves the readability of 
the railroad diagrams. Where the diagram loops back on itself, it now has 
an arrow to make it clear that the track runs from right to left at that 
point.

http://ae-railroad.tiddlyspot.com/

The arrow can be turned off by setting the $railroad widget's arrow 
attribute to "no".

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[tw] Add to top of ViewTemplate

[Rustem]

If I tag a tiddler with [[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]], it's content gets added 
to the bottom of the ViewTemplate.

I know I can modify [[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]] list field, but...

Is there an alternate way to add my content to the top of ViewTemplate, 
without overriding any system/shadow tiddlers?

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

[Matthew DeAbreu]

I seem to be having a slight problem with 0.0.4, I just downloaded it on my 
work machine (Windows 8.1 Pro x64) and when I try to start it a window 
briefly appears before quickly disappearing. After that 3 nw.exe remain in 
the task manager but nothing seems to be happening. Do you know if any 
logfiles are created so I can help find the cause of this problem?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El viernes, 9 de enero de 2015, 19:46:29 (UTC+1), Alberto Molina escribió:
>
> Hi Danielo,
>
> I am currently working on a new version of the plugin, with less bugs, 
> better features, and much easier to customize. Its not yet finished but 
> usable enough. I just uploaded it so you can take advantage of the 
> customization enhancements: magictabs.tiddlyspot.com
>

But this is not compatible with the previous version right?
 

>  
>
> I'm glad you find it useful. Unfortunately, the plugin for teachers is in 
> a very early phase of development, so there's not much features. 
>
Well, I don't want to use it as a teacher, but to give the students a good 
material where they can take notes and ideas.
 

>  
>
> The field "parent" is just a way to categorize your contents, you can use 
> it as you wish. There's no restriction.
>
But I did not find any button or field to "automatically" create a new 
tiddler as a child.
 
 

> In order to better explain myself (and not spending hours figuring out how 
> to write it in english) I'm going to continue in spanish. But I promise to 
> write the documentation in english later on.
>
> En español. Imagino que lo que quieres hacer es adaptar las tablas para lo 
> que tú necesites. Yo traté de dividir las tablas en sus elementos 
> constitutivos, de modo que cada campo (título, etiquetas, texto, acerca de, 
> etc.) está en un tiddler diferente. De ese modo puedo reutilizarlos 
> independientemente uno de otro para hacer tablas diferentes. Por ejemplo el 
> campo "about" está en el tiddler $:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/forms/input/about
>

Nice to hear that. I miss the forms at the sidebar to add new tiddlers of 
each type. Are they still there?
 

>
> Además, están como macros globales, de modo que si escribes <> 
> en cualquier tiddler, te aparece el trozo de tabla correspondiente. En la 
> mayoría de los campos hay tres variables que puedes configurar: el "label", 
> el tiddler temporal que usas para almacenar los datos, y el campo que 
> editas. Las variables "label" y "field" se pueden meter directamente en la 
> macro:
> <>
>
> En cambio, el tiddler temporal se define desde fuera (porque dentro 
> aparece como $(tempTiddler)$:
> <$set name="tempTiddler" value="$:/temp/foo">
>
> <>
>
> 
>
> En algunos sólo se puede cambiar el tempTiddler (tendré que hacerlo para 
> todos cuando tenga tiempo):
> <$set name="tempTiddler" value="$:/temp/foo">
>
> <>
>
> 
>
> En algunos también se pueden definir "placeholder" y otras cosas, pero es 
> mejor verlo directamente en el tiddler correspondiente. Todos empiezan por 
> $:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/forms/
>

This is very powerful. Maybe you can use this small explanation to add it 
to the documentation.

 

>  
>
 
>
>> Is there any way to add tiddlers under a topic?
>>
>
> No entiendo muy bien lo que quieres decir. A cualquier tiddler se le 
> pueden añadir comentarios, notas, etc., y todos los tiddlers que estén 
> relacionados con éste aparecerán abajo en las pestañas correspondientes. 
> Por ejemplo, si tengo un tiddler "Catedral de Salamanca", puedo añadirle 
> comentarios, notas y más cosas que sólo aparecerán ahí porque tienen los 
> campos "about: [[Catedral de Salamanca]]" o "source: Catedral de Salamanca" 
> o "parent: [[Catedral de Salamanca]]".
>
> Esto lo has entendido más en otro post.

 

> Si además a tu tiddler le asignas un tipo, con la etiqueta 
> "$:/type/arquitectura", entonces puedes añadirle pestañas específicas a ese 
> tipo. Por ejemplo, debajo de cada tiddler con la etiqueta 
> "$:/type/arquitectura" puedo tener las pestañas "Fotos", "Elementos 
> destacados", "Técnicas constructivas".
>

No termino de ver claro cómo añadir nuevas pestañas. Ok, creo un tiddler y 
le pongo una tag que empieze con $:/type/algo, pero luego dónde defino las 
tabs? Dónde aparecerán esas tabs? En todos los tiddlers?
 

>
> Ahora es más fácil crear nuevas pestañas. Basta con clonar el patrón 
> ($:/plugins/amp/MagicTabs/templates/tab) y rellenar los campos que quieras, 
> especialmente:
>

Con ahora te refieres a la última versión que estás desarollando o también 
incluye la anterior?
 

>
>- *contents.tag:* ahí indicas la etiqueta de los tiddlers que quieres 
>que aparezcan en la pestaña. Por ejemplo: "$:/type/comments", 
>"$:/type/journal", "tasks", etc.
>
>
Ok, creo que esto está relacionado con la pregunta anterior en la que te 
preguntaba cómo definir tabs, pero creo que se me escapa algo.  
 

> Bueno, espero que sea suficiente para que te hagas una idea. Pero no dudes 
> en preguntarme si tienes más dudas.
>
>

Muchas gracias! 

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

[Jim Lehmer]

On 1/12/2015 12:36 PM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
Close. Not that it matters at all but... My first job as a programmer 
started in 1965. In November of 1979, I was a contributing editor of 
Creative Computing magazine.


You win. :)

Although even so I realized I am not good doing math with really big 
numbers, because this is my 29th year programming professionally, not my 
27th. Yikes!


And I remember /Creative Computing/.

Now in respect to the other list members, we greybeards should quit 
discussing our "back in the day" bonafides. :)


"Hey, you kids! Get offa my dot matrix printer!" (waves cane)

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

> Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program I've 
> run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the computer field 
> rival anyone else's) 
>
>
> I've been 35 years "in the industry," 27 with 
> "programmer/engineer/architect" attached to my title. Am I close? :)
>

Close. Not that it matters at all but... My first job as a programmer 
started in 1965. In November of 1979, I was a contributing editor of 
Creative Computing magazine.  

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

[RichShumaker]

Tobias that simply made me SMILE *:)* !!!

Got it, loops are only on full videos.
I was using triggers (somehow) to play the videos over and over when I 
press the button.
So I was manually looping it.
 
The crazy idea in my head was MakeyMakey  to 
trigger YouTube inside TW and since I found mousetrap(Link 1 
, Link 2 , Link 
3 ) last night that crazy idea 
became less crazy.
Community Search is amazing and very helpful.

Build idea - Button inside TW for playing YouTube video that you assign to 
the keyboard and then map to MakeyMakey.
Add a drum loop and you have the next big YouTube World Sensation, Autotune 
for 2015 and I am R$ take that TPain.

Rich Shumaker


On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 7:11:25 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Rich,
>  
>
>> Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler 
>> using your YouTube stuff?
>> I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was 
>> fun to use and create.
>>
>
> Just for the fun of it...
>
> http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#EndlessLoopingWeirdness
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: New User Experiment #1 (Long Post)

[Mat]

@Stephen

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the thinking you put into this.

But how many tiddlers does someone who isn't experienced with TiddlyWiki 
> have to look at to figure out how to do those?

 
I'm reminded of, RichShumakers request for a sequence to learn things, 
where there at his level probably is none, but for complete newbies there 
probably can be - also for more technically competent people. 

<:-)


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Idea for a Hangouts TiddlyWiki

[RichShumaker]

My arms were up all night Birthe hence no reply, #heheh
At first I was shaking my fist in the air with a vengeance at CloudFlare 
and not figuring it out sooner, Thanks BJ and everyone for your help.
Then I was this emoticon, *o/*.
I did not know that adding * to either side meant jump in 
emotospeak(emoji), I just keep learning.

So has anyone added the Emoticons from Github, Campfire and a bunch of 
other sites  to TiddlyWiki 5?

Thanks again everyone for the help.
Now that I know what I am making won't explode when uploaded I will be 
getting more done today.

Rich Shumaker

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 11:26:35 PM UTC-8, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Rich,
>
> What a relief! What kind of jumping emoticon are you missing now? #he he, 
> I am guessing you can not get your arms down.
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

[Mat]

PMario wrote:
>Is there a chance, that we have the diamond one as an SVG too?
 
A nice one, in deed. Duarte is the one to answer. But I think we all 
(including Duarte) agreed that the contributions to the competition were to 
be considered property of the community so I guess anyone is welcome to 
work on it. 

Jeremy had some suggestions for how to host several posters on tw.com so 
I'm sure he'd be positive.

I think it would be nice with a type of gallery if we had more posters. 
However, they would have to hold a certain standard and as became very 
obvious in the aftermath of the competition, there is quite some work to 
get the final bits in place. An idea, that I have not discussed with 
Jeremy, could perhaps be a list of links there to peoples unofficial 
contributions hosted on their own sites. This could be good because it 
would mean others can pick up on something and improve it. Well, it's a 
question for when he is back.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddler Refresh vs Close and re-open

[Arc Acorn]

bump

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

Hi Tobias,

> So long as (part of?) a macro parameter is declared via double square 
brackets, that may be achieved.

How so? While it's possible to use double square brackets to delimit a 
macro parameter, these are merely an alternative for quotes. They have no 
link semantics.

For example, given `\define emphasis(_) //$_$//`, the call `<>` returns `//Target Tiddler//` rather than any kind of 
link to Target Tiddler.

I believe a macro parameter is *always* a mere string of characters, no 
matter how it's passed. Even if you use the $macrocall widget,

  <$macrocall $name=emphasis _="[[Target Tiddler]]"/>

the parameter remains a string, in this case `[[Target Tiddler]]`.

The issue is that macros are dynamic, so they're not really suitable 
candidates for the rapid indexing relied on by things like [backlinks[]] 
and [all[orphans]].

I wonder if the message "No tiddlers link to this one" on the References 
tab ought to say "No tiddlers contain static links to this one"?

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

[Felix Küppers]

@Tobi, @Mario

Thanks guys. I am also happy about this synergy effect.

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

[Jim Lehmer]

On 1/12/2015 7:24 AM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
preview pane, the editor is little more than a textarea box. If we 
could get it to look as good as the editor we use when posting 
messages to this group, I would be ecstatic. And it would make life a 
lot easier on the new users without detracting from Tiddlywiki's power.


I have had the very same thought, multiple times when typing a TW group 
message into Google Groups - "I want */this /*editor in TW!" Especially 
since I tend to move between Markdown (er, CommonMark :) and TW quite a 
bit, and am always using the wrong syntax (I posted a pull request to 
another project on GitHub the other day and used TW's link syntax!)


The editor would still need a way to "drop to native syntax" for 
specifying widgets, defining macros, etc., but for the type of people 
(including me at times) who just want to use TW for quick notetaking and 
not have to remember the syntax for bolding, I think it would be a huge 
win. In fact, given that Ctrl-B, Ctrl-I, Ctrl-U are almost all uniform 
in meaning across most WYSIWYG editors, just having those three hot keys 
enabled would be a great start.


Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program 
I've run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the 
computer field rival anyone else's)


I've been 35 years "in the industry," 27 with 
"programmer/engineer/architect" attached to my title. Am I close? :)


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Tobias Beer]

>
> But it's potentially problematic that the system doesn't keep track of 
> links within macro parameters. If TiddlerOne passes a sentence of ordinary 
> text to a simple macro that just returns its parameter in bold with a red 
> background, and if that sentence contains a link to TiddlerTwo, then it 
> would be nice if TiddlerTwo recognised TiddlerOne on its info References 
> tab. I suppose the difficulty is that the system can't easily detect 
> whether the macro returns its parameter intact.
>

So long as (part of?) a macro parameter is declared via double square 
brackets, that may be achieved.
When using just quotes that's a lot more complicated as it's just as likely 
a mere string.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Mario,
 

> This is a bug, because of security concerns. see: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1350
>

I believe there is a certain demand for something equivalent to TiddlySpace 
and...

config.evaluateMacroParameters = "full";

...allowing users and authors to explicitly enable javascript urls in their 
wikis,
even script tags ...via a different config tiddler.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

[Tobias Beer]

Added the lot here...

http://dev5.tiddlyspot.com/#expose%20node%20server%20to%20local%20network

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

[Tobias Beer]

And here's a demo...

http://scripts.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BF%3A%20income%20report%5D%5D

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

On further reflection, the problem of backlinks and orphans is not as 
important as I initially thought. Links that are automatically generated by 
a filter-based widget will normally always be links to *existing* tiddlers, 
otherwise the filter wouldn't have selected them. So these links can be 
filed under "things the system takes care of so you don't have to".

But it's potentially problematic that the system doesn't keep track of 
links within macro parameters. If TiddlerOne passes a sentence of ordinary 
text to a simple macro that just returns its parameter in bold with a red 
background, and if that sentence contains a link to TiddlerTwo, then it 
would be nice if TiddlerTwo recognised TiddlerOne on its info References 
tab. I suppose the difficulty is that the system can't easily detect 
whether the macro returns its parameter intact.

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[tw] Re: Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

[Jed Carty]

That is what has always happened for me. It isn't an in-place upgrade, it 
gives you an upgraded version of the input file instead of replacing the 
input file. That is unless you overwrite the original with the new download.

That or it has been broken for me every time I have used it.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Jeremy,

Terrific! Glad to see that TiddlyDesktop is not dead.

! New Features
>
> * Warning message when closing windows with unsaved changes (TWC and TW 
> 5.1.8 and above only)
>
Very necesary
 

> * Help window
>
Will check it
 
 

> * Automatic backups
>
How are those backups performed?
What about  spell check?


> ! New Architecture
>
> TiddlyDesktop itself is now an instance of the Node.js edition of 
> TiddlyWiki. TiddlyWiki HTML files are run within embedded, sandboxed 
> iframes with the "backstage" TiddlyWiki providing services such as saving 
> to the file system.
>

Does this means that we can write a sync adaptor to the local file-system? 
Or even better, does the current one works?
 

>
> The advantage of this approach is that the user interface and 
> functionality of the desktop application can now be customised and extended 
> with exactly the same techniques that are used in regular TiddlyWiki.
>

I don't understand this at all. What limitations has the previous version 
of TDesktop?

 

>
> !! Coming Soon
>
> Can't wait!!!

 

> * configurable toolbars
>

Very very useful
 

>
> * hyperbookmarklets
>
What??
 

>
> * creating new wikis from standard editions and custom templates
>
Please, prioritize this. Currently it is very uncomfortable to start with a 
new empty TW, and even more difficult to start with your usual list of 
plugins. This will make TW to play a similar league than word or any other 
document editor, but better.
 

> * dragging `_canonical_uri` links from the file system
>
This will make a lot of people happy.
 
 

> * one-click copying of text to the clipboard from within TiddlyWiki
>
Useful and powerful
 

> * global keyboard shortcut for clipping content
>
Could you tell me an example?
 

>
> In doing this work on TiddlyDesktop over the last three weeks I've found 
> the answer to the question of its purpose: it is to provide a hosting 
> environment for TiddlyWiki documents that is as fertile to customisation, 
> extension and sharing as TiddlyWiki itself. Given the funding, I'd love for 
> this to preface the development of a smartphone/tablet app with similar 
> functionality. Is that something people would be interested in?
>
> Please do that!! I will use it at every place. Currently I use firefox for 
android, but I would prefer a dedicated, more powerful app. The best 
approach will be to have an application for TW and the possibility to turn 
every TW file into an application.

Thank you Jeremy for this!! Woho!

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

[Tobias Beer]

Now, let's make all that a little more readable...

<>


Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Fet script question

[Tobias Beer]

The below assumes...

   1. that you tag any individual receipt with *receipt*
   2. that you define expenses as an *expenses* data field (can be 
   undefined)
   3. that you define revenues as an *revenues* data field (can be 
   undefined)

<>

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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

[PMario]

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 4:34:28 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
>  
>
>> That being the case, I'm surprised that this works: 
>> http://tbdemo.tiddlyspot.com/#Console%20Log%20Of%20Tiddler%20Sizes
>>
>> Perhaps I'm missing a key difference between inline Javascript in an 
>> Onclick and what looks like inline Javascript in an https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1350


> I think it would be quite a bummer if bookmarklets would no longer work.
>

In FireFox some bookmarklets, that are loaded or access http:// URIs are 
blocked if your current page is https:// 
There may be more restrictions in the future. 

-m


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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Stephen,
 

> That being the case, I'm surprised that this works: 
> http://tbdemo.tiddlyspot.com/#Console%20Log%20Of%20Tiddler%20Sizes
>
> Perhaps I'm missing a key difference between inline Javascript in an 
> Onclick and what looks like inline Javascript in an http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Astrid,
 

> The regexp doesn't check for a trailing pipe sign, so `<>` will 
> match `|table`.
>

That's correct. Fixed.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

[PMario]

Hi Felix,
Congratulations!

TiddlyWiki has 1008 github stars atm. It's on page 3 of the most starred 
projects at github 
 now. A view 
days back we where far below 1000. So IMO your project and the mentioning 
of TW in the vis.js blog had some impact here. Thx ;)

have fun!
mario




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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

[Tobias Beer]

Other than loads of more ui,
this may be very practical...

http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com

Edit a tiddler and find a button in the toolbar that says *info on 
formatting*.

I think something like that triggered as a slider from the Editor, not 
unlike the preview pane,
will tremendously help putting concise information at a user's hand.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

[Tobias Beer]

Big thumbs up, Felix,
on all of your work
and the fruits to reap
for you and all of us to enjoy.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Tobias Beer]

railroads => awesome usefulness

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Rich,
 

> Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using 
> your YouTube stuff?
> I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was 
> fun to use and create.
>

Just for the fun of it...

http://youtube.tiddlyspot.com/#EndlessLoopingWeirdness

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

[Matthew DeAbreu]

No problem, glad I could help. As a note about security, if you have the server 
listening to 0.0.0.0 on port 8080 and in your router configuration have 
forwarded that port the server is open to all traffic on both the local and 
external network. 

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[tw] Hic trying to upgrade to 5.1.7

[DaComboMan]

When i drag/drop my password protected file over to TW webpage to upgrade 
to 5.1.7, i am asked for password and do so.
Then i upgrade (import) latest codes.
When i click to save changes, the browser (Firefox) download feature is 
activated to save the file.
This isn't normal.

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[tw] [TWC] Fet script question

[sklpns]

Hello everyone

I'm using this fet 

<>

to produce a table with expenses and sum - see
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#[[December%20Expenses%20%28with%20sum%29]] 


I'm trying to modify the script so it also presents an income column and 
it's sum as well as a final column with totals
-something like Date|Expense|Expense Sum|Income|Income Sum|Total, but it's 
way above my skills,
could someone please help?

thanks in advance
sklpns



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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Rich,
 

> Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using 
> your YouTube stuff?
>

Via transclusion.
 

> Since you can start a video and stop a video at specific points you can 
> create samples.
>

I want to be able to autoplay, at least.
Start, stop only works once, not as looping.

Looping is currently possible for entire videos only
and the video needs to be listed in a playlist...

https://www.youtube.com/v/GRonxog5mbw?autoplay=1&loop=1&playlist=GRonxog5mbw

There's also this site, but it doesn't provide a way to embed things,
at which point their server may possibly go down thanks to the number of 
people using it...

http://loopthetube.com#7_ZhCaz2Cic&start=39&end=47

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

[PMario]

Hi Mat,
Well done.  Is there a chance, that we have the diamond one as an SVG too?

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/EQzQC4-HRd0/sskiWgQi7jEJ

-m

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

[Tobias Beer]

Sorry for misspelling your name.

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[tw] Re: Tip for serving TW5 on node to local network

[Tobias Beer]

Thanks, Mathew,

Makes sense.
Surely a good idea for trusted networks.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Javascript Interaction with a Textarea

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
>
> whatever's example doesn't work because TW5 doesn't support inline 
> JavaScript within HTML elements in wikitext. It would be a security risk in 
> some situations as it would mean that any wikitext tiddler might 
> potentially contain executable JavaScript, which may be malicious.
>

That being the case, I'm surprised that this works: 
http://tbdemo.tiddlyspot.com/#Console%20Log%20Of%20Tiddler%20Sizes

Perhaps I'm missing a key difference between inline Javascript in an 
Onclick and what looks like inline Javascript in an http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftiddlywiki.com%2Fdev&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG_l79KY31IktEQ5AMLs5ftldzlWQ>
>  
> documentation as a good place to start (particularly the material from 
> cjhunt).
>

I'll take a look. Thanks. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

Further to my previous comment, I've just discovered that `[backlinks[]]` 
and `[all[orphans]]` don't take account of most automated links.

For instance, if I have a tiddler whose text is

  <>

then the Target tiddler has an empty References list and shows up on the 
Orphans tab. And if the Target tiddler doesn't exist, it doesn't show up on 
the Missing tab.

It's much the same situation if I have a tiddler whose text is

  <$list filter="[title[Target]]">
  <$link>click here
  

As a result of this, the tiddlywiki.com site shows almost half of its 
tiddlers as orphans, even though most of them aren't.

Interestingly, things *do* work correctly if I have a tiddler whose text is

  <$link to="Target">click here

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but it's a difficult thing to 
search the group for.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] BottomTabs plugin (v. 0.1)

[Alberto Molina]

Hi,

Le samedi 10 janvier 2015 19:21:31 UTC+1, cmari a écrit :
>
> Hi Alberto,
> I already liked tw-scholars, so I'm trying hard to keep up with all of 
> your improvements!  One thing I noticed is that the author list (in 
> "$:/plugins/.../lists/publications") doesn't seem to be sorting properly.  
> I tried creating new authors and publications in your dropbox version to 
> test things in case there was some problem with my fields.  Sorting by 
> title and date works fine, but sorting by author is not alphabetical.  
> Also, clicking the reverse checkbox didn't change anything at all.  I wish 
> I could provide actual help rather than just a report, but I'm very 
> confused about where "authors" are defined.
> Thanks so much for what you've created - I use it daily.
> cmari
>

Fixed and improved!

Regards,

Alberto 

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Re: [tw] Re: javascript macro / macrocall problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I don't think there's a lot of risk of this group going overboard in making 
the program user friendly but I do think there are user interface areas 
that could tolerate improvement with diluting TW's strong points. It seems 
to me that one of the noteworthy ones, based on the number of efforts I've 
seen at improving it, is the editor. There have been at least a half dozen 
modifications including Eric's enhancements of TWC, Stefan bookmarklets and 
Danielo's keyboardsnippets. And others that are more aggressive. There are 
times when it seems that everyone with the skill has tried to improve that 
aspect of the program. Other than the preview pane, the editor is little 
more than a textarea box. If we could get it to look as good as the editor 
we use when posting messages to this group, I would be ecstatic. And it 
would make life a lot easier on the new users without detracting from 
Tiddlywiki's power.

Tiddlywiki is also, by a fair margin, the most sophisticated program I've 
run into in years (and I'll wager my number of years in the computer field 
rival anyone else's) with essentially no semblance of a help system. For 
just a few hundred bytes, we could offer folks an intermediate level of the 
program that includes key help files with negligible impact of the program. 
Something between the bare-bones empty and the full web-site would be 
helpful.

Other strengths:
>
> 1. It's actively developed and supported and the primary developer is 
> accessible. :)
> 2. It has a great community that is both enthusiastic and open to 
> newcomers.
>

I strongly agree with these two points. Without those two, I wouldn't be 
here. 

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Mat

Super Felix!!! Particularly good with TW mentioned in a context where I 
> assume many are developers or "advanced users".
>
 
Yes, I also think that vis users are potential candidates for tw :) In the 
end, its all about structuring and relating data/knowledge.

-Felix

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugin for "the"-insensitive links?

[Astrid Elocson]

Hi Tobias,

Your alink macro would be really handy for use in the TiddlyWiki 
documentation. It would significantly reduce the file size, because we have 
lots of links of the form `[[…|…]]` (and we will be acquiring more over 
time).

The main drawback is that it's not understood by important filters such as 
`[backlinks[]]` and `[all[orphans]]`, which means that the sidebar Orphans 
tab can show false positives and the info References tab can incorrectly 
show nothing.

A comment about the implementation: The regexp doesn't check for a trailing 
pipe sign, so `<>` will match `|table`. The fact that your example 
shows `|alias|aliases` suggests this isn't what you intended. It would be 
problematic if one tiddler had an alias of `|tab` and another had an alias 
of `|table` – it wouldn't be clear which one `<>` (or indeed `<>`) would link to.

– æ

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[tw] Re: Vis.js Library

[Mat]

Super Felix!!! Particularly good with TW mentioned in a context where I 
assume many are developers or "advanced users".

<:-)

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 12:35:23 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> The vis.js developers just linked TiddlyWiki and the TiddlyMap plugin in 
> their showcase section.
>
> http://visjs.org/showcase/index.html
>
> Tiddlywiki is also referred to in their blog:
>
> http://visjs.org/blog.html#A%20look%20back%20on%20vis.js
>
> It's nice to see that since both products (TiddlyWiki and Vis.js) go great 
> hand in hand (Knowledge and Visualization).
>
> -Felix
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Alex Hough]

Astrid,

love the railroad stuff, thank you

Alex

On 12 January 2015 at 08:46, Astrid Elocson  wrote:

> Awesome, Jeremy. Many thanks.
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[tw] Vis.js Library

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Everybody,

The vis.js developers just linked TiddlyWiki and the TiddlyMap plugin in 
their showcase section.

http://visjs.org/showcase/index.html

Tiddlywiki is also referred to in their blog:

http://visjs.org/blog.html#A%20look%20back%20on%20vis.js

It's nice to see that since both products (TiddlyWiki and Vis.js) go great 
hand in hand (Knowledge and Visualization).

-Felix

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] YoutubePlugin (tentative)

[Alex Hough]

Tobias,

It's an interesting development  how  many other tool are there for
annotating YouTube videos like this?

here's one : http://www.videonot.es/

but I can see new users adopting TW because of vid annotation,  a special
edition TW Vid Notes combined with TW Scholar, and we have a powerful
collection of tools


best wishes

Alex

On 12 January 2015 at 00:02, RichShumaker  wrote:

> First
>>
>> The feature is used quite a bit in Tank for handling images and other
>> content that can be dragged and dropped into a wiki. The actual binary
>> content is saved in S3 and a _canonical_uri tiddler created to point to it.
>> I mostly did it to save on disk space, but it also means that bags that
>> appear to contain binary tiddlers are not slowed down by the binary
>> tiddlers.
>>
> That is awesome Chris and I need to get my TiddlyWeb working now as that
> is the single feature I have wanted the most.  A way to save data locally
> and just create a link to it.
> Second
> THANK YOU TOBIAS
>
> I have been hacking up the YouTube plug in and WOW.
> I know it will get better, I am just amazed at how good it is already.
> I agree with Astrid as well that this is a great lesson on how to build
> TW5 Stuff.
>
> So one question came up while I was hacking things up.
> I created a 6 times winning video
> , because I could.
> Here's the question, Can multiple video's appear in a single Tiddler using
> your YouTube stuff?
> I tried but couldn't figure it out and will try some more today as it was
> fun to use and create.
>
> This was not intended to be a 'thing' but I could do it so I did.
> The end concept was to create a YouTube Sampler, again because I could and
> no other real reason.
>
> Since you can start a video and stop a video at specific points you can
> create samples.
> I thought of this as I saw a Ted Talk where they took Captain Kirk's
> dialogue and cut it up and used it as samples to rebuild phrases and
> things, pretty cool stuff.
>
> Thanks again Tobias and Jed and Astrid and everyone in the community.
>
> Rich Shumaker
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[tw] [TW5] The POSTER is up and ready for you to print out!

[Mat]

Fellow tiddlywikians, it is with *great* pride I announce that we have our 
first TiddlyWiki poster! 

Jeremy expressed his liking and he and Duarte did the finishing job so that 
we now have [drumroll]

http://tiddlywiki.com/poster

Thanks to the - not only astonishing art work of Duarte - but also his 
generous "extra work" (for lack of a better term), there are *multiple* 
versions, including a pdf-version 
 for 
direct printout on a common A4 / letter size paper. Easy as pie!!!

Where is the best place to put it up? Can you think of somewhere? Imagine 
if there were a few people around you who also enjoyed TiddlyWiki that you 
could tiddlefiddle with :-)

Who here will be the *first* to put one up?


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Prerelease of 5.1.8

[Astrid Elocson]

Awesome, Jeremy. Many thanks.

– æ

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.4

[Corey S]

I would like to see Tiddly Desktop evolve into a standalone program running 
in many environments. Windows/RT, Linux/Android, Mac/iOS, Blackberry too, 
if you can swing it.

My use case:
I use my Tiddlywiki mostly for a recipe book nowadays, but I have a 
separate wiki that I use for 3D model design and making notes on game 
ideas. I have collected images of objects I want to derive for my designs. 
My wikis are in the root of my hard drive so I can use relative addressing 
to add images into a tiddler and then add notes to the tiddler.

While AndTidWiki is useful for Android, it only really works with TWC 
(don't know how I managed to get TW5 working) and only with a wiki in the 
App's directory. I would like to be able to have a wiki on my phone 
in root. I would also like the option to use a Windows Phone/Tablet or 
Blackberry. Maybe snipping/clipping and remote backup function too? May not 
sound like much, but it looks like a lot of back-end work to this layman.

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> This release includes a major reworking of the internals of TiddlyDesktop. 
> It's really a bit early for general release, but we need feedback to 
> improve it. Please use it with great caution, and consider reverting to 
> v0.0.3 if you run into any problems.
>
> Download it here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.4
>
> Please report any problems or suggestions here or via GitHub.
>
> ! New Features
>
> * Warning message when closing windows with unsaved changes (TWC and TW 
> 5.1.8 and above only)
> * Help window
> * Toolbar for TiddlyWiki windows
> * Reveal original file in Finder/Explorer
> * Automatic backups
>
> Note that there is currently no way to hide the toolbar for TiddlyWiki 
> windows. This will be remedied soon!
>
> ! New Architecture
>
> TiddlyDesktop itself is now an instance of the Node.js edition of 
> TiddlyWiki. TiddlyWiki HTML files are run within embedded, sandboxed 
> iframes with the "backstage" TiddlyWiki providing services such as saving 
> to the file system.
>
> The advantage of this approach is that the user interface and 
> functionality of the desktop application can now be customised and extended 
> with exactly the same techniques that are used in regular TiddlyWiki.
>
> !! Coming Soon
>
> The functionality of this release barely matches that of the previous 
> v0.0.3 version, but it lays the groundwork for a number of other features 
> such as
>
> * configurable toolbars
> * hyperbookmarklets
> * page zoom
> * creating new wikis from standard editions and custom templates
> * dragging `_canonical_uri` links from the file system
> * multiple languages
> * one-click copying of text to the clipboard from within TiddlyWiki
> * global keyboard shortcut for clipping content
> etc.
>
> In doing this work on TiddlyDesktop over the last three weeks I've found 
> the answer to the question of its purpose: it is to provide a hosting 
> environment for TiddlyWiki documents that is as fertile to customisation, 
> extension and sharing as TiddlyWiki itself. Given the funding, I'd love for 
> this to preface the development of a smartphone/tablet app with similar 
> functionality. Is that something people would be interested in?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
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