RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I personally do not care much if the person I interview knows about such or such latest api. Rejecting a person because he/she gets stuck on a technical question is no relevant. You have to look at learning, abstraction, adaptation, communication abilities. You have probably already rejected great potential contributors. Hiring someone just because of a particular technical knowledge is asking for troubles. Once I had a developer who knew Java much better than anybody else in the team. The problem is that he could not understand where we wanted to go because he was just looking at the technology. His contributions ended up being less than the not-so-skilled java developers. Another time I gave the chance to a young guy out of high school. He knew about nothing about programming languages but he strucked me as a problem solver. After one month in the team he knew more that the senior developers about the project and even if he did not know about the lastest tech issues, he solved the different problems you have in daily IT work in a more efficient manner. Finally, even though I use JSP, I have the tendency of building frameworks asap to focus on real business issues. I will probably fail your tests although I built a framework on top of Tomcat to help my web developer focus on the customer issues. Of course, if you are trying to build technology such as a JSP and/or a J2EE, you do need deeper tech knowledge. Still I will argue that solving problems is more important than narrow tech knowledge. Thierry -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:34 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Like I said, I'm not looking for a specific answer - just give me a smart answer! -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I heartilly disagree. You posted to a mailing list specifically about this topic, and got 5 different answers. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
What do you need to be done? Joseph Krasnov -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
This is a permanent position. Initially we need help converting a 400 ASP program payroll web application to JSP, Servlets, and Java Web Services. -Original Message- From: Joseph Krasnov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:42 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer What do you need to be done? Joseph Krasnov -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
There are always the people who ask for 5+ years of experience with .NET or something akin to that. I saw one posting locally that asked for 30+ years of ethernet experience. My guess is that they wanted someone who worked at PARC, and that the guy had already applied for the job. -Original Message- From: John B. Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:10 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would have taken a person that would of at least tried to learn programming for more then six months before giving up. To many people jump into programming and don't realize it's still work. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:12 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Howdy, LOL... That's not humiliating at all, don't worry about it ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:12 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Why in you area? You might have an easier time finding someone to work remotely. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I just have a hard time believing that I can't get anyone in my area. Besides, it's not my call whether they can telecommute or not. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:25 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Why in you area? You might have an easier time finding someone to work remotely. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Honestly, I've been a professional C++ programmer for several years now, and I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a damn good one. I don't expect anyone to be able to sit down at the terminal in vi with no man pages and hammer out code in an hour or 2 that does much anything useful. Perhaps a handful of programming questions would be a bit more applicable... but that's just my $.02 -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:27 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Howdy, Getting really off-topic, but ColdFusion is certainly more alive than the red sox ;( It takes a really long time for a technology to die. There are always legacy applications, their maintenance, and eventually their retirement/integration/replacement/conversion to something new. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would agree with you, but what I'm asking for should take 5 to 15 minutes. It's also pretty simple to do without looking anything up... it's very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Honestly, I've been a professional C++ programmer for several years now, and I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a damn good one. I don't expect anyone to be able to sit down at the terminal in vi with no man pages and hammer out code in an hour or 2 that does much anything useful. Perhaps a handful of programming questions would be a bit more applicable... but that's just my $.02 -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:27 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 1at 2:56 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). Out of curiosity, what are the tests you are giving them? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Yes, you are wrong. ColdFusion MX was entire rewritten in Java, and it allows you to write JSP, Servlets and Java programs that you can use within it. It's become quite powerful now. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Cold in the grave. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Corrected I stand. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:36 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, you are wrong. ColdFusion MX was entire rewritten in Java, and it allows you to write JSP, Servlets and Java programs that you can use within it. It's become quite powerful now. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not already dead) technology. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are there's 5 methods and nothing (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I've been monitoring this stream of curiousness, but now that the questions is out, it became awfully quite or did my server decide to take a nap? tsktsk Challenge who's got the answerThere's a job waiting... If you don't know the answer, have a quick peek at the manuals (RTFM) hehehehe... -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 10:33 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Howdy, shakes head Two bad questions or bad phrasing of questions. 1. Servlet is an interface, implementing classes must have 5 methods not 2. 2. Servlet is an interface which does not extend other interfaces. /shakes head If you're talking about GenericServlet, you should say so. Even then, question 1 is wrong, because to extend GenericServlet you must only override one method, the service() method. GenericServlet extends Object. If you're talking about HttpServlet, which I imagine is the case, again question 1 is wrong, because to extend HttpServlet you must only override one method, e.g. doGet, not two methods. HttpServlet extends GenericServlet. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
See! I'll take anything like that! That shows me you have SOME kind of idea what I'm talking about... I'm not so much as looking at the percentage of questions they answered right or wrong, just HOW they answered the questions... -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are there's 5 methods and nothing (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
You might have to call rs.next() first before the rs.last(). I know that prior to getting a ResultSetMetaData object you have to call the rs.next(). Could be the rs.last() requires the same thing (in case there's no records returned). But that's just a guess. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count. If it has row count, then I am distinctly interested. -Original Message- From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Hmmm Direct from the Servlet API To implement this interface, you can write a generic servlet that extends javax.servlet.GenericServlet or an HTTP servlet that extends javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are there's 5 methods and nothing (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's a good answer also... -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:46 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Howdy, shakes head Two bad questions or bad phrasing of questions. 1. Servlet is an interface, implementing classes must have 5 methods not 2. 2. Servlet is an interface which does not extend other interfaces. /shakes head If you're talking about GenericServlet, you should say so. Even then, question 1 is wrong, because to extend GenericServlet you must only override one method, the service() method. GenericServlet extends Object. If you're talking about HttpServlet, which I imagine is the case, again question 1 is wrong, because to extend HttpServlet you must only override one method, e.g. doGet, not two methods. HttpServlet extends GenericServlet. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Howdy, Actually, my first impression was when I saw the bad questions more along the lines of a head shake and another person who's just spouting off acronyms and buzzwords without having much of a clue (e.g. the classic HR/recruiter/headhunter type). I bet other qualified people on the list though the same, none are as bored as I am right now waiting for Clover to complete its coverage analysis for a huge app. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Johan Kok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I've been monitoring this stream of curiousness, but now that the questions is out, it became awfully quite or did my server decide to take a nap? tsktsk Challenge who's got the answerThere's a job waiting... If you don't know the answer, have a quick peek at the manuals (RTFM) hehehehe... -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 10:33 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Ruben Gamez wrote: Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? doPost and doGet; HttpServletRequest, HttpServletResponse. 2. What does a Servlet extend? HttpServlet. Can I pass your question?:))) -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Right... but you could implement the interface and get the same result with a little more work and a lot more flexibility is the point that they're making. -Original Message- From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmmm Direct from the Servlet API To implement this interface, you can write a generic servlet that extends javax.servlet.GenericServlet or an HTTP servlet that extends javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are there's 5 methods and nothing (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Yes, but all of you are still missing the point. These questions are designed to find out how much they know about this. -Original Message- From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmmm Direct from the Servlet API To implement this interface, you can write a generic servlet that extends javax.servlet.GenericServlet or an HTTP servlet that extends javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Hmm, I could see where people would have difficulty. Since the answers are there's 5 methods and nothing (servlet is an interface). --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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Thanks for the reply. I searched for ResultSetMetaData in JavaDoc, and there is no method to get row count. It only has column count. Did I miss something? Please explain. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Brendle, Douglas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:45 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
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Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they
qualified
for the job.
-Original Message-
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people
that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of
simple tests (I consider them simple).
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based
on current job market.
- Original Message -
From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Also OT... I've an older implementation of Apache ( i.e. not Tomcat and pre-webservice ). I am trying to send data from my servlet to co-workers webservice. Using the java.net.URL package I am opening a connection to his page and using an OutputStream and OutputStreamWriter to write my data to his page and an InputStream to read his reply. We are both using ntlm authentication for our apps but I am receiving a 401 error when reading from the InputStream. Seems it's either losing the authenticated user or user a different account. Any ideas? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
:) I'm not a HR/recruiter/headhunter type.. I'm a programmer type... Java, Servlets, JSP, ColdFusion, and ASP. -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Howdy, Actually, my first impression was when I saw the bad questions more along the lines of a head shake and another person who's just spouting off acronyms and buzzwords without having much of a clue (e.g. the classic HR/recruiter/headhunter type). I bet other qualified people on the list though the same, none are as bored as I am right now waiting for Clover to complete its coverage analysis for a huge app. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Johan Kok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I've been monitoring this stream of curiousness, but now that the questions is out, it became awfully quite or did my server decide to take a nap? tsktsk Challenge who's got the answerThere's a job waiting... If you don't know the answer, have a quick peek at the manuals (RTFM) hehehehe... -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 October 2003 10:33 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? 2. What does a Servlet extend? -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's good as well... but I have 20 other questions that need answers. :) -Original Message- From: BAO RuiXian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:07 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Ruben Gamez wrote: Ok... here's two questions... 1. Off the top of your head, what two methods are required in a Servlet? What two parameters do they take? doPost and doGet; HttpServletRequest, HttpServletResponse. 2. What does a Servlet extend? HttpServlet. Can I pass your question?:))) -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:30 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer As off-topic as it is, I'm sure lots of us are *real* curious by now what an example question would be on your 'simple test'. :) -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:23 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP Servlets and I'm still having trouble. I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but I've given up on that. I'll just have to train the new developer on CF later on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings, but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 John B. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:10 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Yeah, and those of us that do have the credentials get lost in the forest. (Not to mention the observation that many of these job postings want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different areas, mostly unrelated and the total experience years exceeds most normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable overlap...G) John.. Hart, Justin wrote: That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:45 pm, Shapira, Yoav sent the following If you're talking about HttpServlet, which I imagine is the case, again question 1 is wrong, because to extend HttpServlet you must only override one method, e.g. doGet, not two methods. HttpServlet extends GenericServlet. You don't have to override anything in HttpServlet to get it to load. Now, if you want it to do something useful besides throw exceptions, then you will need to override service or (doGet and/or doPost). But you probably meant that anyway. -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Exactly! This is not advanced stuff! Yes, people can't seem to do this. They don't have the experience they claim to have... -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
My mistake. After reading Justin's reply I looked back at my code. I am using getRow from ResultSet. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Thanks for the reply. I searched for ResultSetMetaData in JavaDoc, and there is no method to get row count. It only has column count. Did I miss something? Please explain. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Brendle, Douglas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:45 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current job market. - Original Message - From: Ruben Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM Subject: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our area. We're located in West Palm Beach, FL. We've tried posting the Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot find someone that can do the job
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
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I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
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That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they
qualified
for the job.
-Original Message-
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people
that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of
simple tests (I consider them simple).
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Thanks. But I know for the fact that there should have data in the ResultSet. If I remove the definition for scrollability (is it a word?) and remove the rs.last() method, I get data back. Furthermore, if I do the same thing for stored procedure in SQL Server, it works. And if I do the same thing on regular Statement for Oracle database like this: Statement stmt = conn.createStatement(ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); It works as well. That makes me think it has something to do with calling an Oracle stored procedure. But I just cannot figure that out where it goes wrong. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:48 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] You might have to call rs.next() first before the rs.last(). I know that prior to getting a ResultSetMetaData object you have to call the rs.next(). Could be the rs.last() requires the same thing (in case there's no records returned). But that's just a guess. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I consider them simple). -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Cannot find anyone?!?!?! It is rather hard to believe based on current
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Yeah, since my web application is going to be run by people in our office
locations all over the world, I try to have as little overhead as possible.
Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 04:01 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
Please respond to Tomcat Users List
To: Tomcat Users List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they
qualified
for the job.
-Original Message-
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
Yup, it does. There are cases when that's extremely useful if the query
result set is large: you might not want to load it into memory, or
modify the query, so that you don't run out of heap memory.
Yoav Shapira
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just
the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with
a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the
row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change
the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
Please respond to Tomcat Users List
To: Tomcat Users List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they
qualified
for the job.
-Original Message-
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would think so, but it's true
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
This slight overhead (assuming your database is properly indexed) is far
far less trouble than you'd have if the query returned a result set
large enough to get a java OutOfMemoryError...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:12 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Yeah, since my web application is going to be run by people in our
office
locations all over the world, I try to have as little overhead as
possible.
Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 04:01 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just
the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with
a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the
row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change
the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
Please respond to Tomcat Users List
To: Tomcat Users List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
But what if it's a busy database, or the query is complex?
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:13 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
Yup, it does. There are cases when that's extremely useful if the query
result set is large: you might not want to load it into memory, or
modify the query, so that you don't run out of heap memory.
Yoav Shapira
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just
the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with
a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the
row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change
the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
Please respond to Tomcat Users List
To: Tomcat Users List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
How about this: Just because you specify things like: ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE doesn't mean the driver (or database!) would necessarily support those settings. Oracle of course, ought to, but maybe you have an older driver? In your code, do something like this, and see what it says: [code] cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); // what are the results of these? cs.getResultSetConcurrency(); cs.getResultSetType(); [/code] Also, and I admit I've never used stored procs, but the cs.execute() looks funny. Would this be wrong?: [code] ResultSet rs = cs.executeQuery(); [/code] Just curious about that last one.. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Thanks for the reply. I searched for ResultSetMetaData in JavaDoc, and there is no method to get row count. It only has column count. Did I miss something? Please explain. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Brendle, Douglas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:45 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs. 1000 people showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified for the job. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would think so, but it's true. I've gotten several people that interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I didn't think you could do that with stored procedures. They usually
require an exec/begin/end to operate. You could probably do that in a
stored procedure however (and have it return the row count).
--mikej
-=--
mike jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You,
Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813
Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/17/2003 03:00 PM
Please respond to Tomcat Users List
To: Tomcat Users List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but
that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with
technology X
(for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a
couple years
ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2 for techs.
1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought
qualified for
the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they
qualified
for the job.
-Original Message-
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
At 02:16 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote: Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? Just a thought -- is the salary reasonable for market conditions down there? If the price isn't right, qualified people may not be inquiring... Justin Ruthenbeck Software Engineer, NextEngine Inc. justinr - AT - nextengine DOT com Confidential See http://www.nextengine.com/confidentiality.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
These are all tradeoffs, as there are with almost every real-life design
decision. With well-maintained modern databases, even complicates
queries can run very quickly. This extra row count query, as I said
originally, is a way to get the result count without getting the actual
full result set. It's useful in some cases and not in others.
If you have potentially large results to your queries, this is a prudent
approach that slightly sacrifices performance for
stability/availability. I.e. it might run a little slower, but it won't
crash.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
But what if it's a busy database, or the query is complex?
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:13 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
Yup, it does. There are cases when that's extremely useful if the
query
result set is large: you might not want to load it into memory, or
modify the query, so that you don't run out of heap memory.
Yoav Shapira
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just
the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with
a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the
row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change
the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it.
I've
screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an
still got a
lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet.
Thank You
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I don't understand the need for the jsp or the bean. If the page is to do a post then it'd seem like a straight html page is ok, and since you're not posting to a jsp it doesn't seem like a bean would be ideal (if the count of parameters is small, if large then maybe). But that's just me. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
We're not listing the salary... One thing I'll say is that we don't skimp on that. We understand how much it costs to hire good people, and have no problem paying them that much. -Original Message- From: Justin Ruthenbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:20 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer At 02:16 PM 10/17/2003, you wrote: Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? Just a thought -- is the salary reasonable for market conditions down there? If the price isn't right, qualified people may not be inquiring... Justin Ruthenbeck Software Engineer, NextEngine Inc. justinr - AT - nextengine DOT com Confidential See http://www.nextengine.com/confidentiality.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Perhaps. I still like my solution of going to the last row and getting the current
row number better though :-P
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:20 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
These are all tradeoffs, as there are with almost every real-life design
decision. With well-maintained modern databases, even complicates
queries can run very quickly. This extra row count query, as I said
originally, is a way to get the result count without getting the actual
full result set. It's useful in some cases and not in others.
If you have potentially large results to your queries, this is a prudent
approach that slightly sacrifices performance for
stability/availability. I.e. it might run a little slower, but it won't
crash.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
But what if it's a busy database, or the query is complex?
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:13 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
Yeah, but that means you have to run the query twice.
Yup, it does. There are cases when that's extremely useful if the
query
result set is large: you might not want to load it into memory, or
modify the query, so that you don't run out of heap memory.
Yoav Shapira
-Original Message-
From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Howdy,
I too don't think ResultSetMetaData has row count.
There's also the hackish but usually OK approach which wraps the SQL
query in select count(*). This has the advantage of giving you just
the
row count without the whole (potentially huge) result set. Something
like:
int getRowCount(Connection connection, String sql) {
String countSql = select count(*) from ( + sql + );
Statement stmt = connection.createStatement();
ResultSet rs = stmt.executeQuery(countSql);
rs.next();
return rs.getInt(1);
}
Or something like that...
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I thought that resultsetmetadata had column count, but not row count.
If
it has row count, then I am distinctly interested.
-Original Message-
From: Brendle, Douglas A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you
process the Resultset?
-Original Message-
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
Pardon me that it is off topics
Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with
a
ResultSet and I cannot find the solution.
I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure,
using
CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the
row
count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method.
However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change
the
code
accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of:
SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last
I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be
scrollable already. The following is the snippets:
//code begins--
DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver());
String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..;
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,);
String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;;
CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql,
ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE,
ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE);
cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR);
cs.setString(2, InputParam1);
cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER);
cs.execute();
ResultSet rs = null;
rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1);
rs.last();
//code ends
Any help will be very much appreciated.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM
Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the
re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet.
;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic]
I used to work in an Oracle/Sun shop, so this really tickled my memory. Does your query break any of the rules on this page ? : http://sales.esicom.com/sales/oracle/java.816/a81354/resltse2.htm -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:16 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] How about this: Just because you specify things like: ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE doesn't mean the driver (or database!) would necessarily support those settings. Oracle of course, ought to, but maybe you have an older driver? In your code, do something like this, and see what it says: [code] cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); // what are the results of these? cs.getResultSetConcurrency(); cs.getResultSetType(); [/code] Also, and I admit I've never used stored procs, but the cs.execute() looks funny. Would this be wrong?: [code] ResultSet rs = cs.executeQuery(); [/code] Just curious about that last one.. -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Thanks for the reply. I searched for ResultSetMetaData in JavaDoc, and there is no method to get row count. It only has column count. Did I miss something? Please explain. Thank you very much. - Original Message - From: Brendle, Douglas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:45 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Have you tried using ResultetMetaData to get row count BEFORE you process the Resultset? -Original Message- From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:44 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer [off topic] Pardon me that it is off topics Speaking about re-usable ResultSet, I am having a little problem with a ResultSet and I cannot find the solution. I have a routine in my servlet to call an Oracle stored procedure, using CallableStatement. Everything works fine. Then, I want to get the row count of the ResultSet. I can do that by using the rs.last() method. However, that requires the ResultSet to be scrollable. So I change the code accordingly. After that, I keep getting the error message of: SQLException: Invalid operation of forward only resultset: last I can't figure out why. I thought I have defined the ResultSet to be scrollable already. The following is the snippets: //code begins-- DriverManager.registerDriver(new oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver()); String url = jdbc:oracle:thin:@..; conn = DriverManager.getConnection(url,); String plsql = begin my stored procedure(?,?,?); end;; CallableStatement cs = conn.prepareCall(plsql, ResultSet.TYPE_SCROLL_INSENSITIVE, ResultSet.CONCUR_UPDATABLE); cs.registerOutParameter(1, OracleTypes.CURSOR); cs.setString(2, InputParam1); cs.registerOutParameter(3, Types.INTEGER); cs.execute(); ResultSet rs = null; rs = (ResultSet)cs.getObject(1); rs.last(); //code ends Any help will be very much appreciated. - Original Message - From: Mike Curwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:12 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I would send y'all my resume, but ever since the humiliation of the re-usable ResultSet, I'm sure I'm one of those that can't walk yet. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:08 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I agree. I'm getting funds to hire a new person and I dread it. I've screened a lot of people on the last time I hired someone an still got a lemon. Lot's of people talk to talk, but can't even walk yet. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 Hart, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2003 03:00 PM Please respond to Tomcat Users List To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer That's what I've found. The market is full of tech workers, but that doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X (for position Y) as they should be. I went to a job fair a couple years ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers. 2
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I feel that we have discussed this topic enough. Could you please take this OFF TOPIC elsewhere ? On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 02:46 AM, Ruben Gamez wrote: Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
This stuff doesn't need to make sense, and it doesn't need to do anything useful. I just need to see that they can write something that works and I need to be able to see their code. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't understand the need for the jsp or the bean. If the page is to do a post then it'd seem like a straight html page is ok, and since you're not posting to a jsp it doesn't seem like a bean would be ideal (if the count of parameters is small, if large then maybe). But that's just me. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
take this off line - Original Message - From: mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Tomcat Users List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't understand the need for the jsp or the bean. If the page is to do a post then it'd seem like a straight html page is ok, and since you're not posting to a jsp it doesn't seem like a bean would be ideal (if the count of parameters is small, if large then maybe). But that's just me. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
It's not that it's difficult, but I think the questions, as asked, are a bit too sly for their own good. People don't necesssarily react well to 'trick' questions. If the question is phrased in such a way that it makes a 'qualified' candidate think Oh my god, these QUESTIONS are wrong... then how do they feel comfortable answering them without seeming too arrogant? They either answer the question they would have asked, if the situation were reversed (and since no-one is a mind reader, perhaps they'll get it wrong) or they'll try to describe the 3 or 4 things *wrong* with the question...(and end up answering some variant of the 'actual' question in that process) Or maybe they'll think those approaches are too arrogant, and would worry that to the poser of the question, it would be telling him his job. know what I mean? -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Sorry, just trying to clarify a few things. I will await responses from qualified people in my area (if they exist). -Original Message- From: Mufaddal Khumri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:57 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I feel that we have discussed this topic enough. Could you please take this OFF TOPIC elsewhere ? On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 02:46 AM, Ruben Gamez wrote: Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I heartilly disagree. You posted to a mailing list specifically about this topic, and got 5 different answers. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
I'm not concerned with that. I'll take anything, but I just keep getting things like - private, public main()... that's just wrong.. -Original Message- From: Mike Curwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:28 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I think the questions, as asked, are a bit too sly for their own good. People don't necesssarily react well to 'trick' questions. If the question is phrased in such a way that it makes a 'qualified' candidate think Oh my god, these QUESTIONS are wrong... then how do they feel comfortable answering them without seeming too arrogant? They either answer the question they would have asked, if the situation were reversed (and since no-one is a mind reader, perhaps they'll get it wrong) or they'll try to describe the 3 or 4 things *wrong* with the question...(and end up answering some variant of the 'actual' question in that process) Or maybe they'll think those approaches are too arrogant, and would worry that to the poser of the question, it would be telling him his job. know what I mean? -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Like I said, I'm not looking for a specific answer - just give me a smart answer! -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:31 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I heartilly disagree. You posted to a mailing list specifically about this topic, and got 5 different answers. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't want a programmer that wouldn't know that. If you've spent ANY amount of time writing Servlets, you SHOULD know doGet and doPost. That is very basic. -Original Message- From: Hart, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer It's not that it's difficult, but I wouldn't ask questions about specific functions/parameters/methods. I have written plenty of java, and couldn't tell you what methods most specific interfaces implement. I couldn't even tell you what methods the interfaces that I've written implement. Instead, I would look for conceptual knowledge. I think that just about anybody can spit up wrote knowledge like that after an hour of studying and not know how to implement a thing, but most people who understand the actual concepts couldn't tell you what methods or how many methods, or what their parameters are. Just my $.02. -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
Hi, Thanks for posting this kind of stuff! As a newbie, it's been an eye opener. But maybe it would be nicer if you can prefix you subject title with [Friday] or something:). BTW, I don't think your questions are too unreasonable. Even though I didn't know the answers when I first saw it:). Thanks! -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 17, 2003 3:25 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer This stuff doesn't need to make sense, and it doesn't need to do anything useful. I just need to see that they can write something that works and I need to be able to see their code. -Original Message- From: mike jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 5:21 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer I don't understand the need for the jsp or the bean. If the page is to do a post then it'd seem like a straight html page is ok, and since you're not posting to a jsp it doesn't seem like a bean would be ideal (if the count of parameters is small, if large then maybe). But that's just me. --mikej -=-- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
If I were going to just post data to a servlet I would probably skip the JSP part :) Maybe have the Servlet forward to a JSP for output. I would probably have a hard time with the lack of documentation. I have a very strong grasp of how things relate and work together but I'm not a rote memorization guy, so stuff like code completion in IDEs helps jog my memory on method names and the like. IMHO, I think conversations about design or concepts can elicit a much better picture of what a candidate does or does not know. Of course, it can be harder to quantify candidates with this method. Derek Ruben Gamez wrote: Does anyone else think that what I'm asking for is so difficult? -Original Message- From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer On Fri, October 17, 2003 at 1:27 pm, Ruben Gamez sent the following The first is a written test which has J2SE, Servlet, and JSP questions. The second is a programming test, they must write a JSP page that form posts to a Servlet, that retrieves ANYTHING from a Bean and outputs it in the Servlet. I have a lab computer set up with everything except the code. They must also use notepad to do this. Wow, sounds like entry level coding to me! And you're having trouble getting people to pass these things? -Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Derek Chen-Becker Senior Network Engineer CPI Corp, Inc. 1706 Washington Ave St. Louis, MO 63103 Phone: 314-231-1575 x996455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key available from public key servers Fingerprint: 1C34 D81E D8A0 641D 6C8C E952 3B15 693F 9184 BC58 -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
