Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hello is it possible for me to buy a ubuntu dvd
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 4:53 PM Mark Dorrington wrote: > Steven where is the best place to purchase a ubuntu dvd as i am on pay as you > go for my internet as i do not like contracts > due to the complexed small print on the contract. Mark, if by "pay as you go", you mean using a mobile PAYG plan and some sort of wifi hotspot to access the Internet, most mobile providers have data packs or add-ons you can use on PAYG plans, e.g. Giffgaff's goody bags, three data packs, Vodafone bundles, O2 bundles, EE packs, etc. An Ubuntu 21.04 ISO is about 2.6 GiB in size. By purchasing a one-off add-on to your PAYG plan, you'd be able to download the ISO and then burn it to disc at your own leisure. Most networks do way more than 3 GiB of data for a month for around a tenner. However, if by "pay as you go", you mean a metered landline Internet access product, then ... wow. I didn't know those things still existed. If you're still determined to purchase a physical DVD from a vendor, as both Steven and the other Mark said, try thelinuxshop.co.uk. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to get Ubuntu DVDs?
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 12:57 AM wrote: > I need to have an Ubuntu install DVD burned for me... and I don’t have a > burner. > > Can anyone help? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubuntu-Linux-18-04-4-Latest-Version/dp/B085FS9JQ5 -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New to Ubuntu
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:06 PM Peter Callum wrote: > I am new to this and am having a few problems with what the best way of > getting assistance is. I keep getting messages from livepatch saying that > there is a problem. Could you share what those messages are? -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ppa problem
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:33 PM Jim Price wrote: > I've ended up in a bit of a bind. I updated from 14.04 to 16.04, which > seemed to go well but then I noticed that VLC was no longer installed. > On trying to re-install it, it could not find its dependency on vlc-nox. > vlc-nox is not in the 16.04 repo. I tried all the googleable > suggestions, but it would seem that as the version I had was installed > from a ppa and although the ppa is disabled (it got that way during the > upgrade) even re-enabling it didn't allow me to reinstall vlc and then > ppa-purge it. The ppa was the videolan stable repo. Is there any way of > telling the apt database that the package details (specifically the > dependencies I guess) are not correct any more for vlc and it should > reload them from the universe repo? There's a few different things you could try, but you could try these steps (carefully, or NOT AT ALL if you're not 100% sure what you're doing): # this is from askubuntu: https://askubuntu.com/a/148968 # look at what PPAs you have installed, and look for # one with VLC in the name for APT in $(find /etc/apt/ -name \*.list); do \ grep -o "^deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/[a-z0-9\-]\+/[a-z0-9\-]\+"; ${APT} \ | while read ENTRY ; do USER=`echo ${ENTRY} | cut -d/ -f4`; \ PPA=$(echo $ENTRY | cut -d/ -f5); echo ppa:${USER}/${PPA}; \ done; done | grep -i vlc # If you get an output from the above like "ppa:vlc/vlc", then # let's remove that PPA repo apt-add-repository -r ppa:vlc/vlc # change ppa:vlc/vlc for whatever PPA you got from that search # press RETURN or ENTER to remove the PPA # purge all VLC packages (this will purge EVERY package # with a name starting with the letters vlc) apt-get purge $(dpkg -l vlc\* | grep ^ii | awk '{print $2}') # then let's make doubly sure universe is there apt-add-repository -r universe apt-get -qq update apt-add-repository universe apt-get -qq update # then let's install your package apt-get install vlc-nox # (or whatever you're trying to install) If any of that doesn't make sense, DON'T RUN IT, but hopefully it'll put you in the right direction. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Any reasons why Ubuntu(-MATE) wouldn't work on this laptop?
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Adam Funk wrote: > I'm shopping around for a new work laptop, & we have to buy it from > Insight. If you can stretch your budget, go for a Thinkpad as others have suggested (albeit from suppliers you've said aren't suitable): http://www.uk.insight.com/en-gb/productinfo/laptops-and-notebooks/0007024438-0001 https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201702-25371/ -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 - incomplete Lois McNab
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Michael wrote: > [nothing] ... OK? -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 - incomplete Lois McNab
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Colin Law wrote: > First a couple of points about protocol on this list. Please don't > top post. Insert your reply into the previous message at appropriate > points. Also please post in plain text not html. Thanks. > [previous message quoted in entirety] Also, trim your posts ;) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gareth France wrote: > I am a member of meetup.com and of the Ubuntu meetup group on there. I think > it's a fantastic idea as I'm not personally aware of any regularly meeting > enthusiast group for Ubuntu in the UK. > > However it doesn't currently have a group owner and will be deleted in 7 > days if nobody claims it. I'd love to but for groups with more than 50 > members there is a $14.99+ fee per month to pay and I simply can't afford > the extra expense. Has there ever been a meeting? It doesn't look like it. Have you considered going to a LUG meeting instead? You may not find a laser-focus on Ubuntu, but I guarantee at any LUG meet, at least one other person is using it. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:21 PM, Stuart Ward wrote: > On 15 April 2016 at 00:35, William Anderson wrote: >> >> From where?! :) > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262302223446 [snip] Not too shabby! I notice Dell are doing base-model Latitude 3450s for £189 ex VAT right now ... http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/latitude-3450-laptop/pd -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Stuart Ward wrote: > On 7 April 2016 at 16:26, Jim Price wrote: >> Any alternatives in a similar price range (£200 after trade-in for this one) >> would be appreciated too. > > I recently got a ex=-corporate thinkpad for under £200, with no OS, > Quad i7 4G memory. From where?! :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu laptop
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Jim Price wrote: > Does anyone know of a supplier of Ubuntu laptops who would accept payment by > cheque? I'm told eBuyer don't for this one: I don't mean to derail the conversation, but if you are paying by cheque, is this because you do not have a debit card for your bank account from which you are drawing the cheque? Have you considered using a prepaid debit card instead? I'd say most if not all online stores will not accept cheques as payment these days due to the long turnaround time and stronger possibility of payment failure (debit/credit cards give a virtually immediate payment verification response to the supplier). -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Gareth France wrote: > Really? What have I said about console repairs during the course of this > thread exactly? I think Liam was referring to the fact you said you were an "IT technician" at first. You only mentioned repairing consoles about two hours ago. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Gareth France wrote: > I'll bare the ftp advice in mind and I agree you do get what you pay for, > but that doesn't make it any less frustrating, especially when they treat > you like an idiot when you know full well what the problem is. I don't believe they were treating you like an idiot. You need to understand how frontline customer support, especially for large companies such as Packard Bell, works. The customer support representatives likely have a wide range of IT experience and knowledge. Their training will be focused on headline issues that can be easily solved without wasting too much time on triage. Their strongest experience will likely be limited to Packard Bell products and their supported suppliers parts and software, i.e. Microsoft Windows. They will not expect you to be, nor will they be able to support you as, a power user, geek, technician or whatever you feel elevates your tech chops above your fellow man; their training will be strongly geared around supporting customers who have little to no knowledge of how computers actually work. If you had somehow had your case escalated to a higher tier of support, you would most likely a) have been dealing with native or fluent English speakers in the UK or US, and b) have gained empathy from a fellow, more experienced IT bod as to your woes and any self-performed diagnostics you would have done prior to opening the case. But unfortunately you didn't, so you are treated the same as everyone else: as someone who has an electronic device which normally does stuff, but now doesn't do some or all of the stuff it normally does. They cannot deviate from this, it is how they are trained, and it usually works quite efficiently. Imagine you know "stuff" about how the public telephone network operates, and you phone BT about a problem with your line, and you start talking about crosstalk, line attenuation and SS7 routing. The CS rep's head would likely explode. Just as large companies generally treat customers with kid gloves when they're making support requests, you should do the same in return. By all means try and outline your situation to see what they say in return, but if they are unable to deviate from their scripts, and are unwilling to escalate to a higher tier of support, there's not much point in fighting further. Just comply and get it over with. Or buy a more expensive laptop next time! KIDDING :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > [snip] > > I'm not going to persue this 'argument'. Go work it out for your selves. I > only pop in here rarely, the conversations from the last couple of threads > enforce that. > > you are totally wrong in lambasting some one who has limited equipment to > back up his own system for reasons you have: > 1) No idea of > 2) Have not asked. This conversation was initially framed as "Packard Bell support suck, and here's the proof so you can laugh at it". Some unwarranted insults aside, I think there has been some important best practice advice offered here. If you plan to run a business utilising any form of computing device, and plan to store business critical data on that/those device(s), you should additionally plan for and budget for a backup solution. You wouldn't stick company formation documents, tax returns or customer invoices at the bottom of your rubbish bin in the vain hope that your bin isn't collected and emptied, you'd put it in a lock safe, storage box or filing cabinet, and you'd probably keep copies, likely offsite, as well. Just In Case. You should consider data which your business relies upon with the same respect and duty of care. > The ubuntu-uk LoCo needs to less concentrate on being approved each time as > a LoCo and instead look into the issues people have and then actually work > out why the "Simple" answers are not available to them. Again, this "issue" is that someone received a budget class computer from a low-tier manufacturer, and has expected a premium level of customer support. To expect that may not be unreasonable, but to be confronted with budget-level support from a budget manufacturer is not surprising, or uncommon. > I'll give you a hint... I bought and shipped a replacement keyboard for a > laptop to one of lubuntu testers. Well done, community spirit at it's finest. > Get of your high horse with infinate resources and actually help those with > finite resourses, I'm saddened to see the attitude from this LoCo to such a > person. I did mention (over six and a half hours ago) that Gareth could ask around to see if anyone locally or here on the list had anything to spare to assist him. Whether or not something has happened to that effect off-list is unknown. In addition, some very useful advice has been given to assist Gareth in building up a backup solution or procuring a very cheap solution to adding more storage. I don't believe it's unfair to offer a small measure of constructive criticism in the same thread as some rather cheap shots were being taken towards Packard Bell. > @ Alan: Get this stupidity stopped Down with that sort of thing. Careful now! -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Gareth France wrote: > I'll be using a desktop for the duration the machine is away. I have been > looking at incremental backup solutions. What I'd like to do is setup a > system where it connects to an FTP server and only backs up the data that > has changed since last backup. Something I would trigger rather than > scheduled as I'm on mobile broadband and would need to do backups whenever I > was near a proper broadband connection. I've found quite a few solutions > which 'sort of' do this as I'd like but most don't cut it and some simply > refused to connect to my server. Do you have any suggestions which may help? Don't use FTP unless you plan to pre-encrypt the backup first (since you will be sending the data in the clear; duplicity will do this using gpg as the pre-upload/store encrypt mechanism). If you can backup to somewhere that does ssh+rsync, use rsnapshot. Both are packaged within Ubuntu. rsnapshot prefers to run automatically from cron (/etc/cron.d/rsnapshot) but you can run it manually if you prefer. You can get a cheap Ubuntu server from kimsufi.co.uk (OVH) for a tenner a month that has 0.5TiB storage and 5TiB/mo traffic allowance, ample as a backup/DR solution. > Bad customer service is something which really winds me up and you have hit > the nail on the head there. This is the customer service equivalent of > painting by numbers. The collection has been arranged now and fingers I wasn't suggesting you were receiving "bad customer service", I was suggesting you were receiving *cheap* customer service, with limited scope to move beyond the standard support script. Just out of interest, how have you handled this hard disc issue? > crossed they will fix it. I know that my laptops always take quite a > pounding but I can only think of one other which faired this badly, made by > a company called Hi-Grade. I really don't expect a machine to be virging on > unusable after only 8 months, regardless of how cheap it is. You're surely aware of the consumer maxim, "you get what you pay for". Granted this is a personal preference within my own realm of income and affordability, but this is why I usually wait until I have enough cash to buy an Apple computer. The build quality is usually stunning, and the level of support is unsurpassed. If you're going to buy/accept a system manufactured by a boxshifter like Packard Bell, don't expect stellar levels of support. In my experience, the cheaper the laptop, the less reliability you should expect from it, and the less support you should expect from the manufacturer. I have literally kicked the heck out of my MacBook Pros and they have all lived to tell the tale (the slight dent on the lid of one notwithstanding). I've also suffered maladies such as dead GPUs on the mainboard, and they have been dealt with inside of 90 minutes (albeit under warranty with the highest tier of support pre-purchased [ProCare]). You get what you pay for. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packard Bell, what wonderful support!
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Gareth France wrote: > I thought I would just bring the experiences I'm having with Packard Bell / > Acer to everyone's attention. I've been unhappy with my laptop since the day > I got it and it seems to be falling apart very rapidly. I have been trying > to get it looked at but it's like pulling teeth! > > Oddly enough linux hasn't been the biggest stumbling block. Anyway, if > anyone fancies a giggle the entire conversation with them is logged on my > blog page: > > http://cliftonts.co.uk/cubuntu/?p=209 After reading this, it looks like you've had a fairly typical experience: you've engaged outsourced frontline support for a low-tier electronics manufacturer, and you've wandered outside the bounds of their scripts. When dealing with a box shifter like Packard Bell, the easiest way to get a result is conform as much as possible to their requests and get the machine shipped off as soon as possible (preferably covered by a home and contents or business asset policy). If you can send it back with a relatively stock OS install, even better. And I'm afraid I agree with Liam here. If the data on the laptop (one which you readily admit is "junk") is of any material importance to you or your business, get it backed up by whatever means necessary. I personally use a mixture of rsnapshot (for my Ubuntu servers) and Time Machine (for my Mac desktops/laptops) to give me a comprehensive layer of recoverable backup data. If you're unable to invest in a hard disc to drop data onto, have you considered a bunch of DVD-Rs? Or perhaps you'd be able to temporarily borrow a USB HDD, or USB-SATA adapter and a regular 2.5"/3.5" drive, from a fellow IT type? Perhaps someone on list has some spare kit they could punt your way? Also, you're concerned about retaining your data to run your business - how will you access the data if the laptop is gone? If you're planning to use the Dell you mentioned, do you literally have 500GiB used on your Packard Bell? If it's all in $HOME, do a du -sch ~ - if the answer is < free capacity of Dell computer, sorted! If not, see borrowing tips above! Re: the phone number, just search for Acer on saynoto0870.com - there are several hits which match or closely match the number you mentioned in your blog post. I think you're unnecessarily making a rod for your own back here when some creative thinking could help you. Rather than asking us to giggle at a bunch of hapless support monkeys being forced outside of the scope of their limited frontline support capabilities, ask the community to help you out! :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Moan -- Top Posting (was "Apps for kids")
On 7 Aug 2010, at 09:40, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: > [top posting snippage] > > This topic is one of a list of topics that [a] will never be resolved, and > [b] > is doomed to be continually brought up. We used to call this "netiquette", > but Some of us still do call it netiquette. > that very antiquated idea is, well, dead. Squashed under the weight of > millions of people who got online faster than people like yourself could > educate them. Topics like this are the undead remains of such lofty ideas. If only there were a dedicated band of people determined enough to spread the idea of logical discussion around the world, and to demonstrate the "better" nature of replying to messages. > You cannot change the world. You can change yourself. You'll be happier if > you > just deal with the fact that some people prefer to top post, and won't change. So maybe we should just change ourselves to use Windows, as this "Linux" thing will clearly never take off under the weight of millions of people who buy computers pre-loaded with Windows faster than people like ourselves can apply distros to them. Maybe free and open source software projects are the undead remains of such lofty ideas. Or maybe it's RMS' tasty tasty toe jam, I'm not sure. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Auto NFS mounting
Ken Adams wrote: > [snip] > > Is there a way I can run a script whenever my laptop connects to the > home AP. In this script I could then mount the nfs shares. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=autofs -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?
Alan Lord (News) wrote: > [snip] > > I use gmane.org for most lists and mozilla provide their lists on a news > feed. > > Filters work fine too, but I find the "lists-on-news" keeps them out of > my inboxes and just suits the way I like to do things. I used to do this a long time ago, but it got frustrating for me, as I had to configure it on each machine I wanted to use it on, whereas wherever I had IMAP configured, I had access to all my lists. > [snip] > > This message is being sent to Newsgroup: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user.british Whoever named that newsgroup needs a slap; British != UK. > PS - I Hope this is useful. It is just *another* way of doing things. > Neither is better or more or less correct. Of course, TMTOWTDI :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automatically moving mail from a specific sender to a certain file?
James Milligan wrote: > [snip] > > 5. 'Match any of the following' > > 6. Subject -> Contains -> '[ubuntu-uk]' for the Ubuntu UK list (this one) This will fail if someone replies to you directly (i.e. not a reply to the mailing list) using a message you posted to the list, as unless the subject line is edited, it will still contain [ubuntu-uk]. You're also less likely to accidentally reply to the list from a mail sent directly to yourself, thus you won't accidentally expose any personal information. For mailman mailing lists such as this, you're better to match as follows: - instead of choosing 'Subject', select 'Customize' from the drop down - in the New Message Header dialog, type X-BeenThere then click Add, then OK - select X-BeenThere, select is, then type ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com - click OK (assuming you've left the folder move action alone) Now if someone replies to you directly, it will land in your inbox instead of being lost within the list posts themselves. If you want to do that, of course :) If you're subscribed to a majordomo list or a list fed by other software, use Ctrl+U when reading a message to see the headers and you can figure it out from there, e.g. List-Id is a popular one. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anti-Virus for Ubuntu (Hard Heron 8.04)? Hardware diagnostics?
Alex Birchall wrote: > Hi All, > > Would anyone recommend an antivirus product for an Ubuntu Hardy Heron > 8.04 server? > > Also, I have a suspicion that our server may have a hardware fault. > This is because yesterday the server shutdown when I attempted to > establish a remote session with Secure Shell. This happened twice in > October last year, but not since. I could find no evidence of a > run-away process, which I was told could also be the cause of a > shutdown. > > I already know about memtest, but can anyone recommend other useful > diagnostic tools? chkrootkit could be useful if someone/something has planted some nasties in your server, ClamAV as mentioned for virus scanning, lmsensors (and related tools) to check on what your server is trying to tell you (maybe it's getting too hot under load and crapping out, maybe a fan is busted inside, etc) and if it happens again, I'd be on the phone to the vendor getting an engineer out to look at it. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Judge bans Microsoft Word sales
Paul Sutton wrote: >> Alan Lord (News) wrote: >>> I disagree. Making *everything* open source would be pyrrhic panacea. >>> Competition is good. Competition is what has spurned the FOSS movement >>> and proprietary vendors alike. Trying to eradicate the proprietary >>> market is unrealistic and would stifle innovation. > > what does "pyrrhic panacea" mean? Would it be possible to use Plain > English please, so people know what you are talking about A pyrrhic (pirr-ik) victory means winning something at a terrible cost to yourself, referring to King Pyrrhus of Epirus, who fought and won battles against the Romans in 280 BC and 278 BC, but lost a great number of his soldiers, including key personnel and his close friends. A panacea (pan-ah-see-ah) means something that can solve all problems, or a medicine or remedy that can cure all ills and diseases, and extend life. It refers to Panakea (Πανάκεια), the Greek goddess of healing, who was said to heal the sick with potion. So I guess from those two definitions, Alan means that making everything open source would be something that could solve all problems, but at a terrible cost to us all. I disagree that everyone should use Plain English, however; if you're not sure what a word means, look it up and extend your vocabulary :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reminder - DFEY-NW tomorrow :: Young Rewired State Announcements
Tim Dobson wrote: > Just a reminder that the DFEY-NW meeting is taking place tomorrow from > 12:00pm -> ~3:30pm > > === > > DFEY-NW (Digital Freedom in Education & Youth - North West) is a group > aiming to provide a social space for young people interested in > technology, issues of freedom and technology in relation to education. I'm not young, and I'm not in the North West of England. I know these messages aren't very frequent, but still ... -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......
Neil Greenwood wrote: > [snip] > It always works to put the options straight after the command. absolutely, it's the best way. but knowing the cheats are fun too :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] text to speech apps
javadayaz wrote: > i know this is probably a stupid question. But how well does it work? in > your personal experience. I've pointed festival at text from news.bbc.co.uk in the past, and it comes out very well; depends on which voice you use, of course. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Auto Mounting Network Shares
Rob Beard wrote: > [snip] > > To get round having to use two different connections for inside the > network and outside the network I have setup dnsmasq on my server and > added the hostnames of each machine and the DynDNS domain name to the > /etc/hosts file so they point to the internal IP address. Neat trick. I do something similar, albeit more complex, with bind and views, so the world sees one lookup result while inside my network border, I see a different result :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......
John Matthews wrote: > Hi, I wonder if somebody can help. I have uploaded a something to my > server, I need to change the ownership. I managed to change the folders > ownership, but not everything inside. > > the script I used was > > sudo chown www-data:www-data and filename > > I think I need to add the -R some where to make it recursive, but not > sure where to add it. Should it be after the filename, or before. command flags almost always go after the command and before the rest of the parameters. See the appropriate man page for specific usage, as there are occasionally exceptions. You may want to use -v with chown to see what's being changed. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What would Linus Pauling think about 'Linux Certified'?
Norman Silverstone wrote: We are the borg. You will be assimilated. >>> Now, now you are starting to show your age. >> That's a bit unfair, TNG is on heavy rotation on Bravo, Virgin 1, et al >> all the time :) > > My humble apologies, the wonders of 'cable' I presume and the shortage > of good SF? Bravo is available on satellite and cable (I have Sky), and Virgin 1 is on all digital platforms, incl. Freeview. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What would Linus Pauling think about 'Linux Certified'?
Norman Silverstone wrote: >> We are the borg. You will be assimilated. >> > Now, now you are starting to show your age. That's a bit unfair, TNG is on heavy rotation on Bravo, Virgin 1, et al all the time :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choosing a new phone
Not sure how much this has to do with Ubuntu ... :) but anyway: Jai Harrison wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I have been using a Nokia 3220 since around late 2004. Recently I've > been doing so over the free Blyk network but as that's now shutting > down (in 2 and 1/2 weeks) I'm in need of a new phone network. My > phone's battery dies very quickly (although I just ordered a > replacement one to maintain some use of the phone). If you're happy with the coverage you get with Blyk, you may want to move to Orange, it's the same network (Blyk are/were an Orange MVNO, and Orange are going to retain the service format in some manner). > As I now need to get a new network I figured it would be great to have > internet access out and about. Of course this means getting a modern > phone as well but I've been planning on replacing my current phone for > a *long* time. > > Also factor in that I'm a student who's never had a contract before so > the idea is very daunting to me. Especially because of almost no > income and mostly loans. I figure that I will have to take a contract > to get decent rates for texts/minutes and internet. Why? If you're reticient to commit to a contract, especially if you have low income, stick to PAYG or sim-only short term contracts (30 days). As a cautionary tale, I bought an E71+18mo contract in November 2008, and I lost my job in March; I still have to pay for the E71 until May 2010. The networks are quite keen to retain PAYG customers, so they will do offers and bundles to give you allowances while keeping you off a contract. T-Mobile, for example, do 'boosters', for example £20 for 300 minutes and unlimited texts for 30 days. > So next comes two epically difficult tasks: > 1) Find a network with decent rates on texts, minutes and a reasonable > "unlimited" plan (500mb is not reasonable). At the same time don't > lock myself into an 18-24 month contract. They're all much of a muchness when it comes to tariff offerings, you'll be wading through different offers of minutes, texts and the like. What you will have a problem with is getting any of that on contract with a decent handset without committing to a minimum term. If you ditch the idea of upgrading your handset, as I mentioned there are options for pay monthly, sim only, no/short minimum term contracts, e.g. T-Mobile Solo, O2 Simplicity, etc. > 2) Select a phone that complements the above network. Offering me a > decent web browser, much customisability (geek factor), good calendar > system for my awful memory, decent media playback (ogg would be a plus > but I suppose I could always write a script to convert to MP3 when > copying files over), anything else that people think is essential(?) > Bluetooth compatibility with Ubuntu would be useful. I can't offer much advice here, having always connected my trusty Nokias (currently on handsets #10 and #11!) either to PC Suite on win32, or straight bluetooth from Mac OS X. I suspect the ubiquity of Nokia handsets means you shouldn't have too much hassle pushing and pulling content from Ubuntu, but it may depend on your requirements. YMMV. > I think that what complements my needs best in terms of a phone might > be an Android one but I think they cost around £400 so wondering what > everyone else has/knows of. You'll be lucky to get an Android handset on a short term contract. It'll be a miracle to get it as a PAYG bundle. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Android on iPhone
Rob Beard wrote: > Daniel Drummond wrote: >>> I haven't watched this yet, but sounds interesting: >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMmDQpfCcMs >>> >>> YouTube video of Window 95 on the iPhone. Sourced from Guardian Tech >>> Twitter. >>> >>> James >>> >> I would take those claims with a pinch of salt. Surely it is easier to >> get an open source OS which already supports the ARM architecture onto a >> phone, than a closed source 15 year old OS with no ARM support at all. >> >> Sounds (and looks) more like they wrote an iphone app that looks like >> windows 95. Or it could even be a video of windows booting. >> >> Dan >> > Looking at the video, it says it's an 80486 CPU with 32MB Ram. I > wouldn't be surprised if what they have done is converted something like > DOSBox to run on the iPhone. That's exactly what they did. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution and MS Exchange 2007
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Oh dear, the project seems to be manned by Trekkies! See the release names. You'd hate my network then ... http://neuro.me.uk/tech/ :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting console VGA mode
Liam Proven wrote: > [snip] > > #4 Being green involves re-using old kit that still works. Typically > half or more of the energy used in the lifetime of a piece of IT > equipment is spent making it, not running it. By making its working > life as long as possible, you save energy; by replacing working kit > with something newer, you waste energy. Or you could recycle the old displays and use a KVM switch instead, which would save using the energy required for the extra display in the first place :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where Ubuntu falls short
Steve wrote: > [snip] > > Just wait. October will be even more fun as people try to upgrade from > vista to 7. I've already told a few it's going to cost them more than the > usual couple of pints to sort the mess out. >From what I've heard, upgrading from Vista to 7 RC is pretty straight forward ... -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh
John Matthews wrote: > Hi, thank you for your message. So as I understand it then, if I have a > folder on the desktop called title, that is called a directory then yes? > I wanted to copy that folder to the home directory. Hi John, directories = folders, it's just different nomenclatures. Many of us grew up with Linux (and various other UNIX systems) at the command line, so calling a folder a directory is just habit. Assume they're the same thing, because the are :) > So what is the difference between scp and cp ~r Secure CoPy (scp) is used to copy data to and from remote systems over the SSH protocol. CoPy (cp) is used to copy data around on a local system. > I really am not getting it, its very confusing. This page is showing two > different ways of copying. I am more confused now. They are two different ways of copying, but they're different tools to achieve different things. > I need to find a night school, so I can get somebody to show me, this is > just not working. Someone earlier suggested finding a local Linux User Group and attending one of their meetings - see www.lug.org.uk to find your nearest. LUGs are usually full of bright, patient and helpful people, as you're finding here I hope! I'm sure at least one person will have a laptop and will be able to give you a quick few minutes demonstrating various shell concepts and commands. > I have never felt so frustrated in all my life as I have since trying to > learn Linux. I used to be an Intensive Care nurse, and I never found it > as hard as this. It was intense, but not as hard to work out what to do. Keep at it. Try to remember there is a wealth of information now to help you, via manual (or man) pages, Google, LUGs, HOWTO files, etc. I know you stated at one point that you preferred to be shown things rather than have to read about them, but at some point it's best to just ... well, read stuff! The man pages are usually good at going in depth as to a command's function, while invariably typing the command name followed by --help will bring up a quick list of the command's function and optional parameters for usage, e.g. cp --help As I and others will say, we were all beginners once, just at different times :) I was a Linux beginner way back in 1994, and even today I'm still learning stuff. Please continue to ask questions, but please also take a stab at reading the documentation for the commands you want to play with, or seek out some FAQs and HOWTOs :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh
John Matthews wrote: > Hi its me again, it seems I might be having a few problems with my > Ubuntu, as I cant get my files recognised when trying to use commands. > Most likely me not understanding how its done. It would be more useful to know what you're actually trying to do and at what point you're running aground :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Daily quiz suggestion
David Jones wrote: > Is anybody interested in getting a rolling quiz set up using funtrivia.com? if you hadn't posted here before, I'd have said this was spam ;) what topics would you suggest having in the quiz? There should be a bonus round called Stallman's Beard. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth
David King wrote: > I did not read the whole of the page at > http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/index.php/Log_host > > but it does seem to say that there are Tardises out there that run on Linux. Oh tardis, how i miss thee ... I had a tardis.ed.ac.uk account way back in the day, until they cracked down on usage, and only permitted ed.ac.uk students, staff and alumni to have accounts (I went to gla.ac.uk). -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh
John Matthews wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I am so sorry to ask this, but I was wondering if somebody would be > willing to give me some help with ssh and commands for running a website > via a terminal. Echoing others, knowing more about what you mean by "running a website" would be useful in helping you :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a network
Paul Roach wrote: > To be honest, the quickest way to access networked data between linux > boxes is to ensure ssh is enabled, and to open nautilus - in the > [snip] but at least with smb/cifs, you're not encrypting/decrypting your traffic as you would with ssh/sftp, so if you're confident your underlying network is secure, you get increased throughput. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
Rob Beard wrote: > [snip] > > I just got the general impression that you were saying that Macs were > the the be all and end all, guess I read it wrong. You're lucky not to > have used Me, I had the annoying task of supporting it once, wasn't fun > at all :-( Apologies if that's the way I come across. I'm a big proponent of Ubuntu on both the server and "desktop" (an increasingly meaningless term in the face of fast rising laptop dominance and increasing numbers of netbooks appearing), but I caught the Mac bug again big style a couple of years ago and have found it hard to shake. You'll note I'm using Thunderbird to send mail (talking to a postfix/dovecot backend here at home), and I use Firefox and lots of other FLOSS apps on my Mac too ... macports is an especially useful piece of software since I don't have good old dpkg/apt on OS X :) > [snip] >> 2008 is about a gig here. I agree that for something you'd use to >> create a spreadsheet or type up a letter, that's insane. For reference, >> iWork '09 is 650 meg. > > Makes me wonder exactly what Microsoft have put in there. Maybe I'm > just a bit cynical, I remember when Word came on a couple of floppies > and did just as good a job. Probably magic UI stuff (newer versions of office on windows have that "awesome" ribbon thing, for example), templates galore, common library components, et cetera, et cetera ... -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: OOo bashing was Word 2002 under Wine?
Rob Beard wrote: > Sean Miller wrote: >> I concur... Openoffice is bloatware of the highest order. >> >> If I could be bothered to get an older version of Office working on >> wine I would - but I don't use office suites enough to do so. >> >> It's a shame, really, that Sun decided to go down the bloated route, >> because the early versions of Openoffice were really quite pleasant to >> use; I dread to click on a ".doc" attachment in an e-mail because I >> know the machine will whirr and click for ages before I actually get >> to see it. >> >> Sean > > I'd have to disagree on this one. I've just opened a spreadsheet (one > of my invoices) in OpenOffice. I'm running my notebook in low power > mode (1GHz) to save battery and it took 5 seconds from a cold start. > I'd hardly say that is ages. There are tweaks that you can do to > OpenOffice to speed it up such as altering the memory usage [1]. You really shouldn't have to tweak a productivity app in such a way to make it usable, IMHO. Granted it took 12 seconds for Word to open up on my Mac when I tried it there, but at least I know I'll enjoy using it :) > Now compare that to Office 2007 on one of my clients notebooks running > Vista, it takes a good 30 or so seconds to start up. > > Not to mention, when did this become an OpenOffice bashing Mac loving > mailing list? Did it? My main computer is a MacBook Pro, my media server is a Mac mini, so I usually speak to my own personal experiences. However, all my servers[1] run Ubuntu Server LTS, and in the past I've run a gamut of desktop OSes including all versions of Windows (bar Me) and most recent versions of Ubuntu. In all cases, I've rarely enjoyed using OOo, and I shared Sean's dread when opening documents that wanted to use OOo due to the grindage and carnage that would ensue. Note that I'm not saying everyone should use MS Office over OOo, just that I have a personal preference, and I think that everyone should try and use the best tool for the job within the bounds of their preferences. > I have got a Mac myself (albeit older iMac G3) and I have used Macs for > many years (going back to the old 68k Macs on System 6) but I find > sometimes doing things on a Mac can be just as annoying as doing stuff > on Windows (or in some cases as doing things on Linux). I guess really Odd, I rarely find using my Macs annoying. I've spent more years cursing at Windows than I ever have at OS X or [insert Linux distro here]. > it's what you're used to. For instance I'm used to a lot of keyboard > shortcuts and generally the shortcuts are the same on Windows and Ubuntu > (for most applications), now going to a Mac I find that rather than > using CTRL I have to use the Option key. Not a big thing really but I > do find it annoying sometimes. I dare say it can be annoying for a Mac > user to go to a Windows or Linux box and find that some things aren't > Mac like. Indeed. > With regards too William's comment about OpenOffice not being a native > app. As far as I'm aware OpenOffice 3.1 IS a native app for OS X on > Intel CPUs, and there is also NeoOffice (which IIRC is a native build of > OpenOffice on both OS X Intel and OS X PPC). Sorry, my "natively" comment was referring to the UI, which has always seemed to me to be more interested in appearing the same across all platforms (which never works) than appearing attractive and highly usable on each platform so that it plays to each's strengths. Just a pet hate. > With regards to MS Office 2008 being prettier than OpenOffice, remember > this, the cheapest version of Office 2008 is the Home & Student version Yup, that's the version I have. > which is about £70 (doing a quick google check), and how much is Yeah, I got the 3-user edition from amazon for a shade under 80 quid. And for me, that was money well spent. YMMV, naturally. > OpenOffice? - FREE! Free to obtain, certainly, but the cost of someone's time to figure out the differences or possible shortcomings of OOo against MS Office could be expensive. > There is nothing stopping anyone picking up the code for OpenOffice and > contributing to make it look better and work better and it's not as if This is another attitude within the FLOSS community that irks me :) Not everyone is a coder! > you get it shoved down your throat like you do with Office 2007 on a new > machine (I've lost count of the amount of Windows PCs I've seen with > Office 2007 trial preinstalled which can only be used about 20 times > before it disables itself and turns into a bloated Office viewer). "Shoved down your throat", right. See, this is what I'm talking about. Not your comment, but the practice of shoving things down people's throats when they didn't ask for them, such as recommending OOo when the OP wanted help with MS Office. Apologies to Mike if his comments were well-intentioned, which I have no doubt they were, but comments like "why aren't you using $FOO" when the questio
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?
Mike Paglia wrote: > I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and its > free! This attitude irritates me somewhat. I prefer MS Office (I currently use Office 2008 on my mac) to OpenOffice.org, as the former works well natively, doesn't consume insane amounts of memory, and isn't fugly :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth
David King wrote: > Interesting podcast, entertaining as usual. > > However, I did not hear any references to the Stolen Earth, which title > I assume you took from a recent Doctor Who episode. But no mention of > the Doctor or the Daleks... > > I wonder what a Dalek running on Ubuntu would be like? APT GET UPDATE! APT GET UPDATE! -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
William Anderson wrote: > Alan Lord (News) wrote: >> On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote: >>> Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash. >> I would be surprised if the default shell is bash. >> >> /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained. >> >> If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most >> (if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root >> points to bin/bash). > > nope, /bin/sh may have been changed to point to dash instead of bash, > but new users are created with their shell set to bash. Every new > account I've set up on every ubuntu box i've set up lately gets bash as > their shell. I forgot to mention, there's also a difference between role accounts being set to sh and user accounts being set to bash. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shell Access for VPS server
Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 07/07/09 01:24, Sean Miller wrote: >> Not on my Ubuntu machine, my default user is still using bash. > > I would be surprised if the default shell is bash. > > /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash as Dave explained. > > If you look at a user's default shell in /etc/passwd you will see most > (if not all) point to bin/sh. (Although interestingly I note that root > points to bin/bash). nope, /bin/sh may have been changed to point to dash instead of bash, but new users are created with their shell set to bash. Every new account I've set up on every ubuntu box i've set up lately gets bash as their shell. You may all be thinking "default shell" means the shell new users are set with to what sh points to. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] Flame Wars mailing list
Rob Beard wrote: > Harry Rickards wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Alan Pope wrote: >> >>> Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour? >>> >> (If there was some joke intended, I've missed it). >> > Alan was referring to the Monty Python Arguement Sketch: > http://www.davidpbrown.co.uk/jokes/monty-python-arguement.html > > Great sketch. Tis. Shameless self-promotion alert: http://neuro.me.uk/2009/03/22/the-four-ubuntu-yorkshiremen/ -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
John wrote: > [snip] > Hi, what backup options are there that dont require you to download the > full site each time. It is some of my fault for relying on the host, I > should never have done that. I need to learn more. check out the rsync, sitecopy, and mirror packages -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
Lucy wrote: > [snip] > Like I said in an earlier post, many other sites on the same server > were also compromised. It's likely that he'll never find out which one > was responsible. Other sites being compromised doesn't necessarily mean they were responsible for the damage to John's site, just indicative of an attack directly on the server or a mass attack on similarly vulnerable sites on the same server. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
Sean Miller wrote: > 412 sites on a shared server is pushing it a bit. Really? Depends on the server! -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
Alan Pope wrote: > [snip] > > "A highly damaging hack at UK-based web hosting company VAserv has > taken a tragic turn for the worse after it was revealed that the boss > of the Indian firm whose software was at the centre the attack, has > hanged himself. " General consensus is that he had lost one or several major contracts his consultancy firm held, and they were the major contributory factor to his taking his life. The VAserv debacle I think was just one of many straws that broke the camel's back. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked.....
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > [snip] > > A strong password is useless if the hack was carried out using a > remote file include or a vulnerability in code that was on the website > to elevate permissions. From your other comments in the thread, I > doubt that your netbook is compromised. I'd lay the blame at the feet > of Wordpress or similar. I'd be inclined to agree here. I note you (John) are running WP 2.7.1 on furrycritters.co.uk, so the CMS itself may not be responsible, but perhaps one of the WP plugins installed, or more likely PHPBB, which is a very popular attack vector, due to the myriad of holes in the various versions of the code. > [use ssh/sftp instead of ftp snippage] > Unfortunately, there are not a huge number of hosts that allow this as > it would require enabling command-line access (no matter how It is possible to enable SFTP access while restricting shell access. Note that some large vendors, e.g. Dreamhost, do allow SSH access to allow easy use of services such as cron jobs. > restricted) to the servers. As a Systems Administrator, end-users are > _banned_ from accessing my systems because (to put it quite bluntly > and this is not aimed at anyone in particular, certainly not on this > mailing list!) the majority of end users simply do not know what they > are doing when it comes to file ownership, permissions and what > consitutes "Secure Code". If they're banned from accessing your systems, how do they upload their sites? :) In all seriousness, how does restricting access to servers stop problems with "Secure Code"? If I can only upload files via FTP, I can still upload some insecure code. It's perfectly possible to enable shell access for web hosting customers (I know, because I've done it) to give them the maximum possible flexibility to build and manage sites, while ensuring all the sites play nice with each other and the servers that host them≈. > [snip] > We generally will provide as much information as we can to our clients > as we are firm believers that if you point out the errors in the code, > end-users learn and tend not to get hacked in future! If your hosting > provider are not doing this, then ask them why not. It's not always within a hosting provider's duty of care to QA customer code, although I do believe it's in the same sphere for a provider to use systems that mitigate against the effects of unfortunate code mistakes. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Website Hacked..... (now showing online?)
Matt Jones wrote: > [snip] > > Looks like you just got away with it. Making a full site backup > probably isn't a bad idea! > Glad you got it sorted, And get phpbb and wordpress updated immediately, I suspect these were the attack vectors. I'm sure, if you don't feel confident about doing that yourself, there will be people on this list willing to help out pro bono. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox, ubuntu and tesco shopping online
Harry Rickards wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 06/21/09 12:56, Lucy wrote: > ... >> You could try the User Agent Switcher Firefox plugin >> (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59), to 'pretend' that >> it's running on Windows. Some websites try to detect what browser/OS >> you're running and display the page differently. It's the main cause I >> can think of if you're running the same browser on two different OSs. >> > Or just change general.useragent.extra.firefox in about:config. User Agent Switcher lets you change browser identity at the flick of a drop down switch, having to wire into about:config and remember what you're supposed to type in each time would tire rather quickly, methinks :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu tribe
You'll be lucky to find anything to download other than the trailer ... it was an entry into a viral marketing competition, and no short film was ever made. -n On 17 Jun 2009, at 17:24, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > there seems to be a movie called ubuntu tribe, a trailer is here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZGZlXpHB2g > > the url for themovie is meant to be www.ubuntutribe.com this fails as > its a phamacy site, any know what the proper url is to download the > movie. yes I have tried google and it comes up with lots of links > which > is not helpful > > thanks > > paul > > > - -- > Paul Sutton > www.zleap.net > Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf > http://www.odfalliance.org > Next Linux User Group meet :Saturday ** July 4th ** : 3pm, Shoreline > Cafe Paignton > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAko5GLEACgkQaggq1k2FJq0/UgCfSgBA2D7xc2JiYj9PwMqBdeDH > 4ukAn0VIt3OG59nNHJVcG6x3ad9IUYu6 > =LAr3 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scheduling a reboot of Ubuntu?
Alex Birchall wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to schedule a reboot of my Ubuntu server. > > When I type sudo crontab -l at the prompt, the following is displayed: > > #m h dom mon dow command > 40 12 * * 0-7 eprints reboot > > As I understand it, this should mean that at 40 minutes past 12 each day > the user eprints will issue the command reboot. No, it means Sunday through Sunday (0 and 7 both mean Sunday for day of week), at 20 to 1 in the afternoon (crontab uses the 24 hour clock), the command 'eprints reboot' will be attempted. If you don't have a command 'eprints', it will fail. Check root's mailbox for more details of the error output, and check man 5 crontab for more details of how the crontab file works. > The problem is, nothing appears to be happening. See above :) > Do I need to specify the user? in a user's crontab? no. user specification for jobs goes into /etc/crontab, which is maybe what's confusing you. Again, see man 5 crontab for more. > Should the entries be separated by spaces, or tabs? doesn't matter. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is there an mp3 tag editor in the repositories?
Michael G Fletcher wrote: > [id3 tagging app snippage] > > you can try "Picard", it's in the repositories and details can be > found here [1]. Musicbrainz Picard is the mutt's nuts, utterly fantastic. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7
Sean Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:19 PM, doug livesey wrote: >> Well, no, because Ubuntu comes bundled with FF. > > Even if it didn't. > > There are many in the repos. This is what Windows needs, an easy to use system to install and update apps loaded on a machine. If there were an app included a la Add/Remove Stuff in Ubuntu, AppFresh for the Mac, or even the old Google Pack, it would take a lot of pain out of things. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations
John Levin wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for reccomendations for broadband suppliers and hosting. > > First off, I'm getting rid of Entanet (via UKFSN) as they've seen fit to > more than double their charges! (Getting ready for long phone session to > customer services today) Don't have cable, so looking for a > geek-friendly adsl service. Be - http://www.bethere.co.uk/ Web Tapestry - http://www.webtapestry.net/ > Secondly, I'm looking for a second hosting service. I use evohosting > http://www.evohosting.co.uk/ > and am very happy with them, but in case of failure want to have (and to > be able to reccomend to others) a secondary web/email system. Plus I'd > like ubuntu-based servers, just for fun. Any suggestions? Bitfolk - http://www.bitfolk.com/ Bytemark - http://www.bytemark.co.uk/ -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless Networking question: Ps3 or Xbox 360
Rob Beard wrote: > javadayaz wrote: >> I mean primarily to view stuff/media thats stored on the ubuntu pc! >> sorry should have made that a bit clearer > Yeah no problem. > > Well I don't have either console (I have an original XBOX, PS2 and > Wii). I know the PS3 has Linux support and I'm pretty certain there is > a version of Ubuntu available (if I'm right it's the PowerPC version > that runs on the PS3) so you could run your media that way with > something like MythTV. I'm not sure if the default operating system on that's not really an easy way to do things :) > the PS3 (XMB is it?) can connect to Samba shares but I believe it does > support uPNP which I understand there are servers available for this on > Ubuntu, I've also read it supports Divx video files. No, neither the PS3 or Xbox 360 can connect to smb shares. > With regards to the XBOX 360, I really don't know. I know it can > connect to a Windows machine which is running Windows Media Centre and > play stuff from that, and I would assume it can play WMA/WMV files > (being Microsoft format files) but as far as connecting to a Samba share > or uPNP server I just don't know. Doing a quick Google search pointed > to a post about someone running Windows XP Media Centre edition in > something like VirtualBox. That's overkill, and expensive. Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 can connect to any OS's or device's uPnP server to grab media from, e.g. XBMC/Plex, Connect360, TVersity, FUPPES, ushare, MediaTomb, etc. If your uPnP server can transcode unsupported media, all the better (e.g. the 360 won't be able to play things like mkv without some assistance), but both can do the basics. For the fastest working system, but least out the box features, you can at least apt-get install ushare :) So to answer the OP's question, both are pretty amenable to streaming media from an Ubuntu box, dependent on your choice of uPnP source. The PS3 has WiFi built in, you'll need to purchase an Xbox 360 Wireless Adapter (retail cost £59.99), e.g. http://tinyurl.com/ldhexr I'd say your other requirements will come into play as to which one you should buy, e.g. cost, joypad comfortability, onboard storage space, available games, types of games[1], bluray capability, etc. Both consoles have their strengths and weaknesses (tho I prefer the 360 at the moment), so choose wisely :) -n [1] i.e. are you a Halo (360) fan? Gran Turismo (PS3)? certain games are cross platform, and will be available on both 360 and ps3, but some are platform exclusive (meaning those specific titles will never be available on the other platform), or are timed exclusives (meaning those titles will be available on one platform before the other), or have feature exclusives (meaning one platform will have specific features in the title vs. the others, e.g. Grand Theft Auto IV's downloadable content only being available on 360, not PS3) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!
Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > [snip] > > There is also no need for bottom posting if you use thunderbird with > thread view, as everyone could simply not include the previous messages > assuming everybody had all the messages in the thread, but it's much > nicer to have all the relevant information for the post in it, so you > don't have to go through each message in turn to get the relevant > information. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] E-mail body as attachment
Matthew Daubney wrote: > [evolution/mailman attachment snippage] > > Hmm, thats interesting. I can't see a way around that inside Evolution, > as far as I can see Evolution is set to just use Plain Text. Anyone know > a way around it? I wasn't criticising evolution to be fair, just more mailman for not intelligently[1] injecting its footer into an attachment-laden message, and windows live mail for being ... well, poo :) > Maybe it's time to go back to Mutt! Bit harsh :) -n [1] why mailman can't simply parse the existing mime enclosure boundaries and tack its footer on at the end with the same boundary instead of encapsulating the whole smash in its own mime enclosures (which actually define the boundaries from the original message), I don't know. I'm sure there's some reason for it, no doubt someone will figure it out :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine
Sean Miller wrote: > Just to point out that the £25 subscription is only for 4 issues, so > it's still over £6/copy which seems steep to me. > > All Linux magazines seem incredibly pricey - but this one seems to > take the pricyness to a new level. To be fair, it's quarterly, so at least you're not spending that amount a month. How "fat" did it seem in page count? For a quarterly that only has Jaunty on its cover disc, I'd expect a lot of pages (and ergo content) for 8 quid. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu User Magazine
Michael Douglas wrote: > [snip] > > I understand why magazine's that come with DVD's of movies, or things > like SLES on them, but why spend money printing a dual-sided DVD, when > you could just use two single sided ones and bring the price down by a > couple quid so more people buy it? Because it's cheaper for them to put one DVD on the front than it is for two DVDs on the front, and the price difference between DVD-5 (single sided / single layer), DVD-9 (SS / dual layer), DVD-10 (double sided / SL), and DVD-18 (DS/DL) are minimal, possibly negligible, when doing bulk duplication runs. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] E-mail body as attachment
Rob Beard wrote: > Steve Archer wrote: >> Why is it that when some people send an e-mail to the list I receive the >> e-mail with no body, but it is instead an attachment? >> >> It's driving me nuts... >> >> Cheers, Steve >> > Strange, what e-mail client (or provider if it's webmail) are you using? Matt is using Evolution to send, Steve is using Windows Live Mail to receive. > I find that by default Thunderbird will forward messages as an > attachment rather than inline but I've not experienced it when reading > messages on the list. It's not Thunderbird, or forwarding messages to a list ... it looks like Evolution is sending Matt's gpg-signed messages with the plain body text and gpg signature in separate mime enclosures. Mailman then encloses *that* in its own mime enclosure, and adds the list footer in a separate attachment. So Matt's original two attachments (the body text, the gnu signature) become attachments within an attachment! There's something to be said for just plain text :) -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell XPS M1530 fresh install WiFi probs
William Anderson wrote: > Kris Douglas wrote: >> Hello everyone, I've been having some problems with the wireless on my >> M1530, it seems, every [insert very similar number of minutes] my >> wireless card just disconnects, it says it is connected to a network, >> but the machine doesn't actually have internet access... > > What do you have installed, and which WiFi card does it have? I > installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my M1530 (which has a Broadcom WiFi NIC) Oops, got that ass backwards: I have the Intel 3945ABG WiFi NIC. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange network problem
michael wrote: > Im not sure if it is the hub. > > There is a windows laptop and two xbox 360's that are able to connect > properly > > Just seems to be the ubuntu box. There's an option on the homehubs to passthru, or assign the external IP address to an "internal" machine, DMZ-style; sounds like it's been set to apply to your ubuntu box. Unset that option and all should be well. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell XPS M1530 fresh install WiFi probs
Kris Douglas wrote: > Hello everyone, I've been having some problems with the wireless on my > M1530, it seems, every [insert very similar number of minutes] my > wireless card just disconnects, it says it is connected to a network, > but the machine doesn't actually have internet access... What do you have installed, and which WiFi card does it have? I installed Ubuntu Jaunty on my M1530 (which has a Broadcom WiFi NIC) without issues, and upgrade to Intrepid with zero hassle. Incidentally, if anyone in the Central Belt of Scotland is interested in buying said M1530[1], ping me off list. I hardly use it since getting a MacBook Pro (sorry!) :) -n [1] 2.0GHz Core2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, 15" TruBrite screen, 2mp webcam, etc. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to set up a dial up connection
Sean Miller wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Farran Lee wrote: >> sorry, an extra bit I forgot to mention - it is a BT DSL modem, using >> broadband, but the computer DIALS UP to the connection. > > It doesn't actually. > > It's just that Windows displays it as a Dial Up Networking Connection. > > Doesn't dial up at all -- it's ADSL. It's just semantics of labelling really. In Windows, you'd create a DUN connection where you have to manually sign in using a connected physical modem or virtual device (e.g. VPN). The only real difference between dialup and broadband (the speed aside) is that with the type of ADSL most common in the UK, the line is always "up" (ATM session created) when the modem is connected and on, both still have to auth using PPP to get an IP. I'd agree with Matt Jones, buy a wireless ADSL2+ router/switch and plug the machines in using Ethernet cables or WiFi as appropriate - a decent Netgear or Zyxel can be gotten at reasonable prices from scan.co.uk, ebuyer.com, broadbandbuyer.co.uk et al. Makes it easier to use multiple machines/devices (desktops, laptops, wifi-enabled phones, etc), and an ADSL2+ router means you can still use it with ADSL1 providers like BT, and migrate to ADSL2+ providers who use the BT Wholesale/BT 21CN platform without having to find new hardware. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] to upgrade or not (Macbook 3,1 on Ibex)
Chris Weaver wrote: > I have a Macbook 3.1 and I'm nearly about to press the upgrade button > (I'm upgrading a test PC to see how it affects sound and Samba in > particular). I have it dual booting with leopard so I'm perhaps in a > better position if it goes wrong. I'll report back how it goes. I'm curious, what's a Macbook 3.1? I haven't heard a Macbook referred to like that before. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beards and sandals
David King wrote: > I know what you mean about the beard and sandals. Just look at a picture > of Richard Stallman -- would you trust a man who looks like that to > create your OS? I don't mind his look so much, I just get The Fear when he opens his mouth. IME he's either going to be rude, rip into somebody/something, or he's going to sing THAT SONG. *shudder* -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] killed box through /var :P
Neil Greenwood wrote: > [snip] > > Have a look at http://blog.hanno-stock.de/archives/50 for a few extra > steps that will mark libraries and dependencies as automatically > installed (then they get removed when you choose to remove the package > you originally installed, instead of becoming cruft). But Ubuntu et al automatically pick up on orphaned packages and offer apt-get autoremove to get rid of them, or did I miss a memo somewhere? -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)
Sean Miller wrote: > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, William Anderson wrote: >> Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key? I'm looking at the MacBook Pro >> keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling >> between Fn and Option/Alt. This and the "there's no right mouse >> button"[1] fallacy really irritate me sometimes. > > Okay, so there's a Ctrl key. But it doesn't do what the control key > would normally do, that appears to be the job of the "Apple" key. > > So what precisely does the "Ctrl" key do on a Mac? Where it counts, it does exactly what you'd think a Ctrl key does. If I fire up a shell, Ctrl+C, +Z, +S, etc does what you think it would. You quickly get used to the difference between Ctrl and Cmd, in fact it's quite handy to be able to use Cmd+C in a shell to copy stuff without accidentally killing the process you're running. Honestly, the more I hear about all these supposed issues with different keys etc, the more it sounds like FUD (not accusing you of anything, just commenting on the general hassles people usually proclaim of Macs). -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] killed box through /var :P
Sorry, catching up with old mail :) Matthew Wild wrote: > [snip] > >> 4 would it be best to generate an install list from synaptic so I know what >> I've got, and do a clean install with a larger partition? (and how would I >> do this through aptitude command line - I have no gui at all now). > > dpkg -l > packages.txt > > However if dpkg is in a bad state, this may not work. I'd suggest an easier path would be to do: dpkg --get-selections > /tmp/packages.txt Then take a copy of /tmp/packages.txt (and probably an archive of /etc as well to make a backup of key system settings), do whatever re-install steps you'd require, put packages.txt back in /tmp/ and then do this after an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade: dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.txt apt-get -u dselect-upgrade -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mac Frustration (was Remote support was Sad but true? etc.)
Sean Miller wrote: > [snip] > > Having grown up in a Unix/VT220 environment to find that there is no > ctrl key and everything is done differently is, to say the least, > rather "alien". I mean, ctrl-c to cancel... been there since time and > memorium... how come Steve Jobs gets to redefine it? Hang on, what do you mean, no Ctrl key? I'm looking at the MacBook Pro keyboard I'm typing on right now, and there it is, a Ctrl key nestling between Fn and Option/Alt. This and the "there's no right mouse button"[1] fallacy really irritate me sometimes. -n [1] If using a Mighty Mouse, oh look, it has a right-button. If using a trackpad, either Ctrl+click or enable right-click using two fingers in the system preferences. Or, you know, just plug in any USB mouse. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] news services was: BBC news site
Tom Bamford wrote: > [snip] > > I guess everyone has their viewing preference; the same 15 minutes of > lukewarm headlines over and over again is not for me, nor any > US-b[i]ased station. Rolling news channels aren't designed to be watched for extended periods of time, unless something "big" or "interesting" is happening. Nonetheless, the bottom 30 minutes of every hour on News 24 are usually used for "programming", while the top 30 minutes are for headlines and news coverage. -n -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
Jai Harrison wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I figured this would be an interesting topic for people to discuss. > We're all from the UK so it should work nicely. What is the best > Internet Service Provider in your opinion and why? Please state > whether it is ADSL or cable. I use two ADSL connections at home: - 8Mb Broadband Max from Web Tapestry [1], gives me solid downstream and a /27 block of IPs. I use this mainly for work, hosting (e-mail and personal web stuff) and for VPN connections. - 16Mb Max from Sky [2], gives me 16 meg downstream for bulk downloads, i.e. squid traffic, downloads, ISOs, etc. Both are pretty solid, no real problems. The Sky-supplied Netgear is friendly enough (cheat code admin/sky to get into the web interface), and I use a solid-as-brick-wall Zyxel P660-HW on my 8Mb line. I use SmoothWall on both lines for NATting my LAN: SmoothWall Express 3.0 on the 16Mb line, and SmoothWall Advanced Firewall 4.0 on the 8Mb line. -n [1] http://www.webtapestry.net/ - mention my name or username (neuro) to support when signing up, and I get a referral bonus. You can do the same for others once you've signed up too :) [2] http://www.sky.com/broadband/ - tenner a month for 16 meg ain't too bad on top of a regular sky tv subscription, and for me that speed is regularly attainable! good stuff! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Off the fence and ready to join in!
Dave wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been reading this list for the past few months and enjoy the good > quality of discussion, so I've decided to get off the fence and hope to > become more involved in Ubuntu's great community. > > I'm a Multimedia Development student from Scotland and have been using > Ubuntu for the past few years. Cool, where are you in Scotland? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital TV
norman wrote: > < snip > > >> What do you mean by the data required? > > I have only had a quick look at the setup procedure so far but there > seem to be several places where numbers are required. Are you talking about tzap? -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Podcast Test Recording 1
Paul RJ Mellors wrote: > It’s been an aim of mine to have a go at creating a UK based Ubuntu > Centric pod cast, currently it’s only in planning stage, see wiki, > however i’ve now had a go at recording something, as a test to see what > i actually sound like, it’s unrehearsed, unplanned, unscripted, totally > made up on the fly crap :) but here it is any way. Hopefully as i’m the > first, more decent recording artists :) will have a go at doing there > own demo so we can see who’s voice would be good. Please don’t laugh to > hard i’m not a professional. I’ll also add it to the wiki in a new > section so others can link to their own test. While i was recording it > though it did come to mind that it’s very difficult unless scripted to > record on your own, so if any one wants to get together at some point [i > live in Nottingham] let me know, we can bounce a few ideas and possibly > record something. it's definitely very difficult to record alone without a script, or at least a very clear agenda of topics. Without those and without anyone else to keep you in check, it's very easy to drift rapidly off-topic. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
paul mellors wrote: > Hiya All > > I'm interested in starting Ubuntu-UK Radio, a bit like Lugradio but > being more specific to Ubuntu and projects in the UK. What are peoples > thoughts about this? Sounds very interesting, and I think I'd be interested in contributing, tho calling it "Ubuntu-UK Radio" to me is flawed. Is there a general Ubuntu podcast, covering the community as a whole and not just the UK? If not, perhaps that might be a better starting point? Also the discussion on swearing, I think as gord points out, any Ubuntu podcast should hold itself accountable to the code of conduct as well as an inclusive broadcasting level, which implies by very nature that the language used be kept clean. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Vista Coverage
Benjamin Webb wrote: > I was having a look at how the BBC was covering the launch of Vista and > found this. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6310599.stm > > I was reasured that it did mention Linux, albeit only briefly and has a > quote from a satisfied Linux user. Is that anyone here btw? Not a single mention of Linux from Maggie Philbin, who for some unfathomable reason was BBC Breakfast's "expert" talking about the release of Vista on yesterday morning's programme. Awful. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Call for meeting agenda items
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Ratfans! > > We're a good week away from our next meeting and the agenda page [0] is > somewhat blank. :( Looks like I won't make it; we record ep 11 of hashlugradio on the same night :P -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] del.icio.us (was: Re: Ubuntu Edgy Disks)
Dean Sas wrote: > [snip] > > You can also get a extension which syncs your bookmarks and tags to > http://del.icio.us so you can access them anywhere. Maybe > firefox/whatever has a similar extension del.icio.us is fantastic, but I found the Firefox extension too restrictive. It completely replaces the FF bookmark system (tho I suppose suppresses is a better word, since all your old bookmarks are still there, and disabling the extension returns the FF system to your browser). I couldn't create folders in my Bookmarks Toolbar, something I rely on to save space, and using tags was a bit too unwieldy, especially after it had imported my 10 years worth of bookmarks and automagically tagged them :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Edgy Disks
Jono Bacon wrote: > On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 15:44 +, Paul Sladen wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Hello Paul, >> >>> The Nottingham Lug is having a LAN party / install fest in november >>> Does anyone know a quick way of getting a hundred or so Edgy disks >>> without using SHIP-IT or copying them myself? >> Ship IT is basically going to concentrate on shipping 6.06 LTS CDs; I >> believe Michael Simms (CC'ed) has a CD duplicator up that way! > > Maybe we should have a wiki page with a list of duplication services? So started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/DiscDuplication -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: UK Free Software Network broadband
Sean Hammond wrote: > Anyone here getting broadband from the UK Free software network? > > http://www.ukfsn.org/ > > They are (very slightly) cheaper than the Phone Coop or Zen (6 month > period plus connection fee). Their cheapest broadband package gives > you a 3GB peak time cap, and 30GB off peak cap. Off peak is 10pm to > 8am weekdays, and 10pm Friday to 8am Monday. Everyone else seems to > just say '2GB per month cap.' (although with Zen you can opt for a > slower 256K connection and unlimited bandwidth), The idea is that any > profits they make go to supporting free software. Looks like it's just > run by one guy. > > Was just wondering if the service is trustworthy or not. Google for "Jason Clifford", and you can make up your own mind if it's (and by extension he) are trustworthy enough. I've tangled with Jason in the past, but not to the extent that would make me think he's committed to providing anything other than a quality service to his customers. -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LinuxWorld planning page
nik wrote: >> use the boot to gather in people and get them involved after the event. >> >> > id also suggest not leaving it to the spill checker ! boot should be booth ! Booth person: Would you like to peruse the enlightened wares of Ubuntu? Show attendee: E, not really, I'm a Windows XP Home user! Booth person: *boot to the head* -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Getting the group going
Steve Smith wrote: > On 08/09/06, Michael Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Steve Smith wrote: >>> Do you have ftp access to ubuntu-uk.org so that we can install xplanet >>> (http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/xplanet) on there? xplanet has a fair list of dependencies iirc; should be interesting :) >> I have ssh access to the server and actually installed a planet > > Cool! > > Though xplanet is for the map, not a blog planet (I have got the right > thing, yeh?) Yeah, xplanet generates images of the planet, planetplanet generates an aggregated blog from provided feeds, but i like the idea of the latter. Another planet never hurt anyone :) If we're adding feeds, this would be best for my entry: http://neuro.me.uk/category/community/ubuntu/feed/ Putting irc nicks (or similar) in brackets after the name would help identifying folk faster, i.e. Jeff Waugh [jdub] :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Meet @ LinuxWorld London - Wed 25th Oct 2006
Jono Bacon wrote: > Hi all, > > On Wed 25th Oct and Thu 26th Oct 2006, the LinuxWorld Expo and > Conference will be happening at Olympia 2 in London. The two event is > packed with stands, exhibitions, a .org village and more. > > I will be at the event, and I figured this could be a great opportunity > for us all to meet up and flesh ideas and plans for Ubuntu UK to make it > a real kick arse LoCo group. :) I personally would love to, but sans job and cash make that hard this time round :( Quarterly distributed meetings sounds like a good plan. And using your shiny new ubuntu.com email address too, hark at you :) -- _ __/| William Anderson | Tim: Your cheese game is strong. \`O_o' neuro at well dot com | Zane: My cheese game. It's all about the =(_ _)= http://neuro.me.uk/ | cheese platter. U - Thhbt! GPG 0xFA5F1100 | -- Tim Westwood, Zane Lowe, R1, Dec 2005 -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk