Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Theo Van Dinter wrote on Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:28:29 -0400:

 Which module are you talking about?  I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys 
 module.  If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA. 
 I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc.

Yes, Mail::DomainKeys. It seems there is a mixture of plugins that are 
commented out, some are included in the distribution, some are not. So, 
there's no way to know from the v310.pre file if that particular plugin is 
included or not. I think this is confusing.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
 wrote on Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:40:13 -0700:

  Where's that warning coming from? 
  
 Perhaps the ä?

Yes, thanks for the hint. I removed the file with the German descriptions 
and all is well. Those custom-language environments are a real trap. I 
prefer to have it all in en-us on my own server systems, except for the 
time, but that's usually not administered by me.

The interesting part concerning sa is that the warnings only appeared 
*after* I commented out the hashcash plugin. Unexpected, isn't it?

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Justin Mason
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Theo Van Dinter writes:
 On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 02:32:07PM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
  The interesting part concerning sa is that the warnings only appeared 
  *after* I commented out the hashcash plugin. Unexpected, isn't it?
 
 The problem is that the translation files don't use the ifplugin bits to
 correctly limit the descriptions to when the plugin is in use.
 
 Can you open a ticket about this?  We'll need to fix it before release.

BTW I'd be +1 to remove the lint warning about this, replacing it
with something (possibly an external script?) that is only run
for developer sanity tests.

Descriptions being set for non-existent rules is a thoroughly minor
issue and hardly has any effect, and scattering ifplugin lines
throughout all the translation files will be quite a bit harder
to maintain...

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:48:28AM -0700, Justin Mason wrote:
 Descriptions being set for non-existent rules is a thoroughly minor
 issue and hardly has any effect, and scattering ifplugin lines

Well, yes, it's minor, but the message only occurs when running --lint.
This is something worth noting via --lint, but not any other time.

 throughout all the translation files will be quite a bit harder
 to maintain...

Yes and no.  First, we haphazardly get translations now, so I don't think
it'll be harder to deal with.  Second, we could put the translation version in
the plugin rule file (25_uribl, etc,) and that way there's only 1 section to
worry about.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Theo Van Dinter wrote on Sun, 19 Jun 2005 13:28:29 -0400:


Which module are you talking about?  I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys 
module.  If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA. 
I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc.



Yes, Mail::DomainKeys. It seems there is a mixture of plugins that are 
commented out, some are included in the distribution, some are not. So, 
there's no way to know from the v310.pre file if that particular plugin is 
included or not. I think this is confusing.


Kai


Every single one of the plugins in init.pre and v310.pre are included in 
the tarball.  The plugins are all located in the 
lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin directory.


Some plugins are commented out by default for licensing or other 
reasons, but they're all included.


Module dependencies aren't included, but that's nothing new, nor 
non-standard.



Daryl



RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Ben Hanson
I get 139 errors regarding the 70_sare_whitelist.cf entries. from 
3.1pre.  Has the syntax for whitelist_from_rcvd changed?

Ben


RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Andy Jezierski

Larry Rosenman ler@lerctr.org
wrote on 06/19/2005 01:46:41 PM:

 Another one you might want to add to that list:
 
 Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum
 
 The pre-req chain for Mail::DomainKeys doesn't req it, but apparently
SA
 3.1.0pre1 does.
 
 LER
 
Yep, ditto here. This was with the last SVN build though. Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA
version is 0.21

Jun 15 17:05:32 python spamassassin[16041]: Can't
locate Crypt/OpenSSL/Bignum.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib /usr/local/li
b/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/B
SDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.6)
at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.6/mach/Crypt/OpenSSL/
RSA.pm line 29.

Andy

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 09:43:05AM +0200, Bart Verwilst wrote:
 Does SA 3.1.0 have support for expiring bayes and AWL data? SA 3.0 just
 keeps filling the mysql databases containing this data endlessly.. My db
 has a couple of million entries now and still growing, and there is no
 way to clean em reliably..

Bayes tokens has had expiry since day 1.  If that's not expiring, you need to
run some debug and find out what's going on.

Bayes seen and AWL do not have expiry, though you should be able to delete the
seen DB now if you want.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea

Ben Hanson wrote:
I get 139 errors regarding the 70_sare_whitelist.cf entries. from 
3.1pre.  Has the syntax for whitelist_from_rcvd changed?

Ben


This is due to the comments Bob had at the end of each entry, without a 
# before them.


He was going to correct this prior to the 3.1 release.  I believe there 
is an updated version that corrects this available.


Daryl



RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
The current one from SARE works fine :) 

And, the latest RDJ has support for all the SARE rules. 

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-Original Message-
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:23 PM
To: Ben Hanson
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

Ben Hanson wrote:
 I get 139 errors regarding the 70_sare_whitelist.cf entries. from 
 3.1pre.  Has the syntax for whitelist_from_rcvd changed?
 Ben

This is due to the comments Bob had at the end of each entry, without a #
before them.

He was going to correct this prior to the 3.1 release.  I believe there is
an updated version that corrects this available.

Daryl




Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I installed on CentOS which I have never done before. Everything is okay 
except for one thing. I get

[28414] warn: config: warning: description exists for non-existent rule 
HASHCASH_HIGH

+ 7 ever HASHCASH rule warnings in --lint

all the other output is exactly like on my other non-CentOS systems.

Hashcash is disabled and there's no such rule in /etc/mail/spamassassin. 
grep in /usr/share/spamassassin shows the following output which seems to 
be quite ok:

25_hashcash.cf:header HASHCASH_HIGH  
eval:check_hashcash_value('26', '')
25_hashcash.cf:tflags HASHCASH_HIGH  nice userconf
25_hashcash.cf:describe HASHCASH_HIGHContains valid Hashcash token 
(25 bits)
30_text_de.cf:lang de describe HASHCASH_HIGH Enthält korrekte 
Hashcash-Kennzeichnung ( 25 bits)
50_scores.cf:score HASHCASH_HIGH -5.000

Where's that warning coming from?

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RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 30_text_de.cf:lang de describe HASHCASH_HIGH Enthält korrekte
 Hashcash-Kennzeichnung ( 25 bits)
 50_scores.cf:score HASHCASH_HIGH -5.000
 
 Where's that warning coming from?

Perhaps the ä?

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Re[2]: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Ben,

Monday, June 20, 2005, 6:50:46 AM, you wrote:

BH I get 139 errors regarding the 70_sare_whitelist.cf entries. from
BH 3.1pre.  Has the syntax for whitelist_from_rcvd changed?
BH Ben

Which version of 70_sare_whitelist.cf? What are the errors?

Yes, the syntax for whitelist_from_rcvd changed (has tightened up
some), but the file that has been published since early June should be
in the new format.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Justin Mason wrote on Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:33:25 -0700:

 Kai, are you sure it's reading the same 
 init.pre file you think it is?run with -D and check. 
  
 note that if you run SpamAssassin from the build dir, it'll pick up the 
 init.pre file in rules rather than your system one, I think.

You are right, it grabs the one from /etc/... and then continues in 
./rules. I overlooked that when I saw that it was getting all the other 
files from the right locations.

I did a make install now. I have it running with a MailScanner setup of a 
few months ago. I enabled DomainKeys and found that this module isn't 
included. Is this only for this pre-release? If not, I suggest adding that 
information to all modules mentioned in v310.pre but are not included.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Alex S Moore

Justin Mason wrote:

hi all --

it's time to broaden the pool of 3.1.0 testing -- so here's a prerelease.
It's functionally quite close to what 3.1.0 will be, although we haven't
yet done the rescoring mass-checks and Perceptron run, and there
may be one or two more patches going in before the full release.


Thanks for this Justin.

I cannot find where to put the dcc user options like dcc_dccifd_path. 
If I leave them in sysconfdir/local.cf, I get info messages about 
skipping dcc.


Thanks, Alex


Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 10:11:43AM -0500, Alex S Moore wrote:
 I cannot find where to put the dcc user options like dcc_dccifd_path. 
 If I leave them in sysconfdir/local.cf, I get info messages about 
 skipping dcc.

Did you enable the DCC plugin?  Due to license issues with DCC, we had to
disable the plugin by default.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 I did a make install now. I have it running with a MailScanner setup of a 
 few months ago. I enabled DomainKeys and found that this module isn't 
 included. Is this only for this pre-release? If not, I suggest adding that 
 information to all modules mentioned in v310.pre but are not included.

Which module are you talking about?  I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys
module.  If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA.
I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc.

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RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Larry Rosenman
Another one you might want to add to that list:

Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum

The pre-req chain for Mail::DomainKeys doesn't req it, but apparently SA
3.1.0pre1 does.

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-Original Message-
From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:28 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 11:32:05AM +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 I did a make install now. I have it running with a MailScanner setup 
 of a few months ago. I enabled DomainKeys and found that this module 
 isn't included. Is this only for this pre-release? If not, I suggest 
 adding that information to all modules mentioned in v310.pre but are not
included.

Which module are you talking about?  I'm assuming the Mail::DomainKeys
module.  If so, you need to install that from CPAN, it's not part of SA.
I'm adding that to the list of optional modules in the INSTALL doc.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 04:02:11PM -0400, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 It showed up when I enabled Mail::DomainKeys, so it may be that
 In the way SA is using it, FWIW.

Doing some digging, DK uses Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA, which has in it:

BEGIN { eval { require Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum; }; }

All I can say is that RSA 0.18 doesn't complain that I don't have Bignum
installed on my box.

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RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Larry Rosenman
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 04:02:11PM -0400, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 It showed up when I enabled Mail::DomainKeys, so it may be that In
 the way SA is using it, FWIW.
 
 Doing some digging, DK uses Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA, which has in it:
 
 BEGIN { eval { require Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum; }; }
 
 All I can say is that RSA 0.18 doesn't complain that I don't have
 Bignum installed on my box. 

$ grep Bignum /var/log/maillog
Jun 19 13:35:55 lerami.lerctr.org spamassassin[13366]: Can't locate
Crypt/OpenSSL/Bignum.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib ../lib
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-unixware-thread-multi
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3
/opt/lib/perl5/5.8.3/i386-unixware-thread-multi /opt/lib/perl5/5.8.3
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-unixware-thread-multi
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /opt/lib/perl5/site_perl) at
/opt/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.3/i386-unixware-thread-multi/Crypt/OpenSSL/RSA.
pm line 29.
$

Is what tripped me to it :(

Spamassassin --lint did **NOT** complain :(

FWIW.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 05:03:27PM -0500, Alex S Moore wrote:
 I cannot find where to put the dcc user options like dcc_dccifd_path. 
 If I leave them in sysconfdir/local.cf, I get info messages about 
 skipping dcc.
 
 Yes, I did enable the DCC plugin.  Running spamassassin with the debug 
 option shows that DCC cannot be found.
 
 I understand and agree with your choice to disable by default.  The 
 problem is that I do not know where to define critical options to run DCC.

local.cf is still the place to specify options.  What exactly is shown when
running in debug mode?

If you run spamassassin -D --lint, you should see something like:

[...]
[29738] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre
[...]
[29751] dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC from @INC
[29751] dbg: dcc: network tests on, registering DCC
[29751] dbg: plugin: registered Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC=HASH(0x1eb74f0)


If there are actual errors, I'd look to make sure the install was
completed successfully, permissions are set right, etc.

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RE: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-19 Thread Larry Rosenman
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 04:02:11PM -0400, Larry Rosenman wrote:
 It showed up when I enabled Mail::DomainKeys, so it may be that In
 the way SA is using it, FWIW.
 
 Doing some digging, DK uses Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA, which has in it:
 
 BEGIN { eval { require Crypt::OpenSSL::Bignum; }; }
 
 All I can say is that RSA 0.18 doesn't complain that I don't have
 Bignum installed on my box. 

Seems I have Crypt::OpenSSL::RSA 0.21.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:05:09PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
 --On Friday, June 17, 2005 7:56 PM -0700 Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 URL:
   http://SpamAssassin.apache.org/devel/
 
 How about including a link on the regular download page to the devel page? 
 I usually go there first when looking for a new version. It should probably 
 go near the end, but before Old releases.

Well, arguably, if you're not on one of the mailing lists, you
shouldn't be installing this. :-)

Please don't use the pre-release on a production server
(obviously). Since the scores haven't been adjusted, you will likely
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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 07:56:29PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote:
 hi all --
 
 it's time to broaden the pool of 3.1.0 testing -- so here's a prerelease.
 It's functionally quite close to what 3.1.0 will be, although we haven't
 yet done the rescoring mass-checks and Perceptron run, and there
 may be one or two more patches going in before the full release.
 
 We'd really appreciate it if you could take this for a spin and
 (possibly) spot any issues...
 
 It should be *quite* stable, but it hasn't seen much action in really
 large sites yet, so a little caution is advisable.
 
 URL:
   http://SpamAssassin.apache.org/devel/
 
 you may have to wait for a mirror update before the files appear, it
 seems!
 
 md5sum of archive files:
   64ec405b8ac4c49209fe2be199c9adcf  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.bz2
   612987472203c85b34ac0f9715fe4dd0  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.gz
   726bad32f42715c2256ef4ab90747641  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.zip
 
 sha1sum of archive files:
   00c05495f146e0fcfaecad29a86d83be4e34c8ce  
 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.bz2
   a9bd82d9eeb92e127e14a1f0066699004544923b  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.gz
   fce976b6ff153de29b45639538e5fab65d0474c1  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.zip
 
 
 (ps: also, if you're planning to submit mass-check results, now's the
 time to start getting those corpora in order! details on the wiki.)
 
 (pps: devs, I left the IS_DEVEL_BUILD line uncommented deliberately.
 it is one. ;)
 
 --j.

Any new tests available?

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Ed Kasky
On Friday 17 June 2005 19:56, Justin Mason wrote:

 We'd really appreciate it if you could take this for a spin and
 (possibly) spot any issues...

Didn't actually take it for a spin yet but noticed the following in running 
makefile on a RH 7.2 server:

checking module dependencies and their versions...
Net::Ident::_export_hooks() called too early to check prototype at 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.1/Net/Ident.pm line 29.

The tests for Net::Ident 1.20 produced the same result.  The only reference I 
could find regarding this error is that the module hasn't been updated since 
1999 and the tests fail as a result.  Don't know if it's the age of my os or 
what just yet

Also one other question why does make test skip t/bayessql by default?  I 
have a working bayes sql data base.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread The Doctor
Failure!!  It does not work with milter-spamc older version.

THAT needs to be fixed.  I refer to the last milter-spamc  which was free.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ok, make test was okay. Before make install I ran a ./spamassassin -D --lint 
and 
wonder about the following:

- dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash

Hashcash is commented out in our init.pre!

- warn: config: failed to parse, now a plugin, skipping: ok_languages en de fr 
en pt

how to activate that plugin?

- UPGRADE says Note for Users Upgrading from SpamAssassin 3.0.x and then 
follows a 
list of hints for upgrading from 2.6 TO 3.0.x.

- the score for that lint is quite high (2.351) compared to the score coming 
from 
the installed sa (- 1.9). Could this be better once it's actually installed 
(and 
/usr/share/spamassassin overwritten with new scores)? With such a high score 
I'm 
reluctant to test it in production (though it's only for our own mail on that 
machine).

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Michael Parker
Ed Kasky wrote:

Also one other question why does make test skip t/bayessql by default?  I 
have a working bayes sql data base.

  


Because not everyone has it set up.  See t/config.dist and create a
t/config.  It will also help avoid having to answer the setup questions
each time perl Makefile.PL is run.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Michael Parker
The Doctor wrote:

Failure!!  It does not work with milter-spamc older version.

THAT needs to be fixed.  I refer to the last milter-spamc  which was free.

  

SARCASM

Thank you for the very thorough bug report about his problem.  It has
all of the details needed to diagnose and fix the problem right away.

/SARCASM

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Michael Parker
Kai Schaetzl wrote:

Ok, make test was okay. Before make install I ran a ./spamassassin -D --lint 
and 
wonder about the following:

- dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash

Hashcash is commented out in our init.pre!
  


There is a new .pre file, I think it's v310.pre, you'll need to comment
it out of there as well and removing it from init.pre all togther is
probably the way to go.  This is something that needs to be addressed in
the UPGRADE file (see below).

- warn: config: failed to parse, now a plugin, skipping: ok_languages en de fr 
en pt

how to activate that plugin?
  


See v310.pre and uncomment.

- UPGRADE says Note for Users Upgrading from SpamAssassin 3.0.x and then 
follows a 
list of hints for upgrading from 2.6 TO 3.0.x.
  

The UPGRADE file still needs some work.  In fact, if someone wanted to
start a wiki page or even better open a bug and start providing
items/patches for UPGRADE that would be VERY helpful.

- the score for that lint is quite high (2.351) compared to the score coming 
from 
the installed sa (- 1.9). Could this be better once it's actually installed 
(and 
/usr/share/spamassassin overwritten with new scores)? With such a high score 
I'm 
reluctant to test it in production (though it's only for our own mail on that 
machine).

  

3.1 has not had a scoring run yet, that is coming soon, so scores are
likely to be a little wonky for a bit.

Michael



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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Ed Kasky

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Michael Parker wrote:

Ed Kasky wrote:


Also one other question why does make test skip t/bayessql by default?  I
have a working bayes sql data base.


Because not everyone has it set up.  See t/config.dist and create a
t/config.  It will also help avoid having to answer the setup questions
each time perl Makefile.PL is run.



Now that's just way too obvious

That worked for testing the sql bayes.  Thanks.
t/bayessql..ok

I am stil lost on the Net::Ident error though.  Any idea if it's  anything 
to worry about if I am not utilizing SSL between spamc and spamd?


Ed 
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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Please don't use the pre-release on a production server
 (obviously). Since the scores haven't been adjusted, you will likely
 get FPs or FNs beyond what you would usually expect.

I have to disagree with you on this one, Duncan.  I haven't run the test
yet for 3.1, but FP/FN rate has always been *better* than the old
release even *before* running the perceptron to optimize the rules.

Running on a production server takes some guts, though, but most of the
SA developers have been using it on their own personal email servers for
months.  ;-)

Daniel

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Justin Mason
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Ed Kasky writes:
 On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Michael Parker wrote:
  Ed Kasky wrote:
 
  Also one other question why does make test skip t/bayessql by default?  I
  have a working bayes sql data base.
 
  Because not everyone has it set up.  See t/config.dist and create a
  t/config.  It will also help avoid having to answer the setup questions
  each time perl Makefile.PL is run.
 
 
 Now that's just way too obvious
 
 That worked for testing the sql bayes.  Thanks.
 t/bayessql..ok
 
 I am stil lost on the Net::Ident error though.  Any idea if it's  anything 
 to worry about if I am not utilizing SSL between spamc and spamd?

totally harmless, only occurs with --lint, and we can't fix it;
it's a bug in Net::Ident.

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Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-18 Thread Justin Mason
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Michael Parker writes:
 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 
 Ok, make test was okay. Before make install I ran a ./spamassassin -D 
 --lint and 
 wonder about the following:
 
 - dbg: plugin: loading Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Hashcash
 
 Hashcash is commented out in our init.pre!
 
 There is a new .pre file, I think it's v310.pre, you'll need to comment
 it out of there as well and removing it from init.pre all togther is
 probably the way to go.  This is something that needs to be addressed in
 the UPGRADE file (see below).

actually it's only in init.pre, not in v310.pre (because it wasn't
a new plugin in 3.1.0).   Kai, are you sure it's reading the same
init.pre file you think it is?run with -D and check.

note that if you run SpamAssassin from the build dir, it'll pick up the
init.pre file in rules rather than your system one, I think.

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SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-17 Thread Justin Mason
hi all --

it's time to broaden the pool of 3.1.0 testing -- so here's a prerelease.
It's functionally quite close to what 3.1.0 will be, although we haven't
yet done the rescoring mass-checks and Perceptron run, and there
may be one or two more patches going in before the full release.

We'd really appreciate it if you could take this for a spin and
(possibly) spot any issues...

It should be *quite* stable, but it hasn't seen much action in really
large sites yet, so a little caution is advisable.

URL:
  http://SpamAssassin.apache.org/devel/

you may have to wait for a mirror update before the files appear, it
seems!

md5sum of archive files:
  64ec405b8ac4c49209fe2be199c9adcf  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.bz2
  612987472203c85b34ac0f9715fe4dd0  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.gz
  726bad32f42715c2256ef4ab90747641  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.zip

sha1sum of archive files:
  00c05495f146e0fcfaecad29a86d83be4e34c8ce  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.bz2
  a9bd82d9eeb92e127e14a1f0066699004544923b  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.tar.gz
  fce976b6ff153de29b45639538e5fab65d0474c1  Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.0pre1.zip


(ps: also, if you're planning to submit mass-check results, now's the
time to start getting those corpora in order! details on the wiki.)

(pps: devs, I left the IS_DEVEL_BUILD line uncommented deliberately.
it is one. ;)

--j.


Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.0pre1 PRERELEASE available!

2005-06-17 Thread Kenneth Porter

--On Friday, June 17, 2005 7:56 PM -0700 Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


URL:
  http://SpamAssassin.apache.org/devel/


How about including a link on the regular download page to the devel page? 
I usually go there first when looking for a new version. It should probably 
go near the end, but before Old releases.


(I liken this to Mozilla's Releases page http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ 
where betas are listed after the current release.)