[WSG] Copyright Issues
Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Copyright Issues
What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. Juts an idea James On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:20, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Copyright Issues
Anyway, as it is just a student's work, I don't think that counts as a profit site, doesn't it? 2009/2/17 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. Juts an idea James On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:20, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Copyright Issues
Copyright has nothing to do with profit Diana Castillo wrote: Anyway, as it is just a student's work, I don't think that counts as a profit site, doesn't it? 2009/2/17 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com mailto:lak...@lake54.com What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. Juts an idea James On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:20, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?
Perhaps google.com might help. Really Brett this list is to discuss web standards, not to provide tutorials for lazy people. On 17/02/2009, at 5:25, Brett Patterson inspiron.patters...@gmail.com wrote: Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left? I have an image that is floated to the left and an unordered list that I am trying to get to move to the right side of an image, in a horizontal layout...the unordered list (navigation bar) is also in a horizontal line position. I need the navigation to align to the bottom of the image...the image's height is 100px, and the width is 200px...how would I accomplish this? -- Brett P. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Copyright Issues
not copyright but the terms of use.If someone is offering content with a policy of use that lets anyone use that content in a non-commercial way, I find that thing as respectable as anyone who prefers their copyrighted content not being used in any way. It was just a thought that maybe, if he finds content we would like to use, he can always ask about the author's policy of use. It's just that. 2009/2/17 Adam Martin ajmartin...@gmail.com Copyright has nothing to do with profit Diana Castillo wrote: Anyway, as it is just a student's work, I don't think that counts as a profit site, doesn't it? 2009/2/17 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com mailto:lak...@lake54.com What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. Juts an idea James On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:20, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Copyright Issues
and by the way, sorry for the offtopic. This list is about webstandards. Marvin, look for a group specialised in copyright issues. 2009/2/17 Diana Castillo diana.her...@gmail.com not copyright but the terms of use.If someone is offering content with a policy of use that lets anyone use that content in a non-commercial way, I find that thing as respectable as anyone who prefers their copyrighted content not being used in any way. It was just a thought that maybe, if he finds content we would like to use, he can always ask about the author's policy of use. It's just that. 2009/2/17 Adam Martin ajmartin...@gmail.com Copyright has nothing to do with profit Diana Castillo wrote: Anyway, as it is just a student's work, I don't think that counts as a profit site, doesn't it? 2009/2/17 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com mailto:lak...@lake54.com What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. Juts an idea James On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:20, Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. doing a fruit and veg site, and now asked for permission to use recipes from Delia smith, Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson. but no success, and not able to use their recipies from their sites for my own site. part of my site, was a recipies page, with about 6 recipies. now, would like to put this site online, but my question is: what vegetable recpies and legal and free, and which people to approach to get permission. any ideas, or pointers. got permission to use images, which i found on google from the owners. and will put a credits links, and a page, next to my copyright page on this site. any one got any ideas, this is the last piece of the current site and student web project, which i want to upload online. but do not want to be prosecuted for copyright infringement in australia. so doing the right thing and getting permission. before uploading this site. any ideas. or maybe e-mail me off list if necessary. cheers Marvin. E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com mailto:sttartrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile! Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Copyright Issues
James Milligan What about coming up with your own?Not meaning to sound rude, but it could be an opportunity for you. +1 Particularly since, if I remember correctly, you already ended up with the same problem with your startrek-related site that forced you to take it offline? P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor Enterprise Development University of Salford Room 113, Faraday House Salford, Greater Manchester M5 4WT UK T +44 (0) 161 295 4779 webmas...@salford.ac.uk www.salford.ac.uk A GREATER MANCHESTER UNIVERSITY *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility testing
http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu I'm totally shocked, that tool is actually quite good. If I get time later I'll run it through a few problematic sites and compare against manual reviewed reports. Mike Foskett http://websemantics.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jon Gunderson Sent: 16 February 2009 17:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing You can try the Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator service. It is a free service, no cost to create an account. http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu This is the Candidate release 1, that hopefully be our production version available later this week. Please let me know what you think of it. Jon On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Henrik Madsen hen...@igenerator.com.au wrote: Hi all, I'm wrapping up a Government agency website. They have reams of design and usability standards. Some pretty pointless; others very valid - but no problem. Re. accessibility, they use ACTF aDesigner. http://www.eclipse.org/actf/downloads/tools/aDesigner/index.php And our scores against WCAG v1.0 Level A could apparently be improved. They have provided scores for star rating, compliance, navigability and listenability. Now, here's the thing. This software is only for PC. I'm Mac. Not very accessible eh? :) What similar software / online systems do people use and get reliable results (if reliable results are indeed attainable)? TIA. Henrik Henrik Madsen Generator hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** This is a confidential email. Tesco may monitor and record all emails. The views expressed in this email are those of the sender and not Tesco. Tesco Stores Limited Company Number: 519500 Registered in England Registered Office: Tesco House, Delamare Road, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire EN8 9SL VAT Registration Number: GB 220 4302 31 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
Jon Gunderson wrote: http://faetest.dres.uiuc.edu Please let me know what you think of it. First impression: good. Informative page reports. A few points... 1: i and b can in many cases not be replaced by h1..h6 or em and strong. Both i and b are valid - span-like (no implied semantics) - elements in HTML4/XHTML1, and are (so far) kept that way in (X)HTML5. The existence of b and i should not be called a failure. 2: according to specs (and browsers) a character encoding stated in an xml declaration is good, and further stating unnecessary. No warning should be given in such a case. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: 2: according to specs (and browsers) a character encoding stated in an xml declaration is good, and further stating unnecessary. No warning should be given in such a case. An ?xml ? declaration (or anything else before the Doctype) will trigger Quirks mode in IE6 so should be avoided. The prolog is optional if the defaults (XML 1.0 and UTF-8 or UTF-16) are used. It is forbidden if HTML 4.01 is used. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
What similar software / online systems do people use [for web accessibility testing]... For an extensive list of Web accessibility evaluation software and online systems (tools), see: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/Overview.html It's a searchable database of over 100 tools. And I'll second Ben's recommendation to go beyond tools in evaluating accessibility. See, for example, Involving Users in Web Accessibility Evaluation http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/users.html Best, ~Shawn --- Shawn Lawton Henry W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) e-mail: sh...@w3.org phone: +1.617.395.7664 about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
David Dorward wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: 2: according to specs (and browsers) a character encoding stated in an xml declaration is good, and further stating unnecessary. No warning should be given in such a case. An ?xml ? declaration (or anything else before the Doctype) will trigger Quirks mode in IE6 [...] IE6 works best in quirks mode... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_16.html ...IMO, so that's a very welcome side-effect. so should be avoided. FWIW: anything other than an xml declaration before doctype will make _all_ IE/win versions stay in quirks mode. The prolog is optional if the defaults (XML 1.0 and UTF-8 or UTF-16) are used. Which means one can deliberately choose to put the xml declaration in, and its 'encoding' is valid and honored. That's my point. It is forbidden if HTML 4.01 is used. Indeed. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [WSG] Accessibility testing
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Re: [WSG] a Div tag won't pick up the height of a floated image?
Okay, I have found a viable solution, so thanks to those that helped, your links were much appreciated. -- Brett P. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Luke Hoggett luke.hogg...@gmail.comwrote: Perhaps google.com might help. Really Brett this list is to discuss web standards, not to provide tutorials for lazy people. On 17/02/2009, at 5:25, Brett Patterson inspiron.patters...@gmail.com wrote: Will a div tag pick up the height of an image that is floated left? I have an image that is floated to the left and an unordered list that I am trying to get to move to the right side of an image, in a horizontal layout...the unordered list (navigation bar) is also in a horizontal line position. I need the navigation to align to the bottom of the image...the image's height is 100px, and the width is 200px...how would I accomplish this? -- Brett P. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: [SPAM] WSG Digest
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[WSG] DHTML Menus
I've recently seen some arguments against the use of DHTML menus for accessibility issues. How much is this an issue.. What is the percentage of population that does not have javascript enabled? Any other thoughts on the topic? Thanks, Kristine *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Kristine Cummins wrote: I've recently seen some arguments against the use of DHTML menus for accessibility issues. How much is this an issue.. What is the percentage of population that does not have javascript enabled? Any other thoughts on the topic? It's hard to tell, but I have seen estimates from 10% to 20%. Because of the almost universal pop-up blockers, inconsiderate sites are using JavaScript to bypass them. This is likely to lead more people to turn off JS. -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com = Do not reply to the From: address; use Reply-To: Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] DHTML Menus
From: Kristine Cummins des...@kristinecummins.com I've recently seen some arguments against the use of DHTML menus for accessibility issues. How much is this an issue.. What is the percentage of population that does not have javascript enabled? Any other thoughts on the topic? My thoughts have always leaned towards using them as an enhanced form of navigation that supplements a well-designed site, while not requiring that they be used as the sole means of navigation. Making this decision eliminates the need for Rube Goldberg-esque attempts at providing keyboard support and other means that try to emulate OS UI conventions, while always falling short. I would also recommend against using so-called pure CSS multi-level menus, such as Suckerfish as they are often more of an accessibility and usability problem than anything else. A visual illustration would be this mini test site: http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/ug-examples/accessible/index.htm -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop The Ultimate DW Menu System *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
