Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Trent Shipley wrote: Nick, is this what you are saying? Spammer compromises customer's computer (actually many customers' computers, preferably through a Trojan EULA that makes the whole thing legal). No, not legal. Spam isn't legal! I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are just ra

RE: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Horn, John
> Behalf Of Nick Arnett > > > I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are > just rational entrepreneurs. > > Bleah. If spamming isn't unethical, what is? Whoever said that rational entrepreneurs are all ethical? An awful lot of business people I have seen seem to have the opinion

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of Nick Arnett I really do not get that angry with spammers. They are just rational entrepreneurs. Bleah. If spamming isn't unethical, what is? Whoever said that rational entrepreneurs are all ethical? An awful lot of business people I have seen seem to have the opini

Re: IPod Loading

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Robert wrote: An iPod loader can earn several hundred dollars for converting a large collection, but hour by hour, the money is modest. Transferring a single full-length CD takes five to nine minutes on a standard computer, which means that most co

Re: NASA envisions Mars warmed up for life

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:46 PM, David Land wrote: Robert G. Seeberger wrote: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002172407_mars06.ht ml http://tinyurl.com/58hnw Global warming may be a scourge on Earth, but injecting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere of Mars might be just the thing t

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Robert G. Seeberger wrote: And that comes right after AOL claimed that spam was going down and that everybody was saying that spammers had given up… It seems that spammers have adapted. How can they use the ISP's infrastructure and why can't the ISPs

Re: IPod Loading

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Lidster
- Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: IPod Loading On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Robert wrote: An iPod loader can earn several hundred dollars for converting a

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Lidster
Eliminate Windows and you'll eliminate spam. As well as proximally all viruses extant today. "So what your saying is that, programers wouldnt be able to create a viris that could infect a mac OS?, or any other os that is not windows based?" LMAO im sorry this is about the funniest thing that i ah

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Nick Lidster wrote: Eliminate Windows and you'll eliminate spam. As well as proximally all viruses extant today. "So what your saying is that, programers wouldnt be able to create a viris that could infect a mac OS?, or any other os that is not windows based?" I'd lik

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Warren Ockrassa wrote: The ultimate source of these problems is at least partly a corruptible operating system. A class-action suit against Microsoft would go a long way toward addressing spam, since UNIX, Linux, BSD and Mac systems don't have these kinds of security issues. I wish it were so...

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: The truth in what you say is that a properly configured Unix-ish system is more secure than a properly configured Windows machine. Unfortunately, there seems to be little shortage of misconfigured systems. That's a better formulation of it, yes. T

Re: NASA envisions Mars warmed up for life

2005-02-07 Thread Dave Land
Warren, On Feb 7, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Feb 6, 2005, at 10:46 PM, David Land wrote: And why not? "Left Behind"-reading, Biblical-literalist eco-terrorists are plotting the demise of Earth in order to force God's hand and bring about the end of days anyway. Oh? Have you heard

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Lidster
I love how age is brought in so soon. wow.. im a KID.. lol thx that actualy made my day :) - Original Message - From: "Warren Ockrassa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: SpamAdaption On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Nic

RE: Cat-astrophe (was: E-mail program questions)

2005-02-07 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Deborah Harrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Cat-astrophe (was: E-mail program questions) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:50:25 -0800 (PST) For behaviors/places it isn't workable, I use "The Enforcer"a squirt gun filled with water and a

Re: NASA envisions Mars warmed up for life

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Lidster
why not jsut turn their logic around on them and say that wouldnt god want all of amn to be saved... and if you want to hasten his return would you not also be condemed to the hellfires with the sinners? - Original Message - From: "Dave Land" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussio

Re: NASA envisions Mars warmed up for life

2005-02-07 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Nick Lidster wrote: why not jsut turn their logic around on them and say that wouldnt god want all of amn to be saved... and if you want to hasten his return would you not also be condemed to the hellfires with the sinners? A fair question, Nick. I'm not sure that logic

Re: NASA envisions Mars warmed up for life

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Um. Years ago I had a button that read, "Dear lord, please protect me from your followers." However, I'd appeal to something a little closer to material reality for help. ;) Hmm. Despite... or perhaps because... I'm Christian, I think I could wear that button, too. But I'

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Warren Ockrassa wrote: I often get emails spoofed from unsecured mailers, many of which seem to report as being 'nix. That's just plain sloppiness on the part of those machines' sysadmins. And that's different from Windows' security issues how? ;-) I'll guess that the answer is that at least Uni

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ticia wrote: > >>Deborah Harrell wrote: > >>>Warren Ockrassa wrote: > >>>Isn't pee supposed to be good for jellyfish > stings? > >>I seem to recall that it might help with the pain > from > >>some type of marine sting...but I'll look into > >>that

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread William T Goodall
On 7 Feb 2005, at 8:26 pm, Nick Arnett wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: I often get emails spoofed from unsecured mailers, many of which seem to report as being 'nix. That's just plain sloppiness on the part of those machines' sysadmins. And that's different from Windows' security issues how? ;-) I

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread maru
Deborah Harrell wrote: ... While my diver friends swear by the 'urine fix' (if you're hours out from shore/medical attention, you'll do what you gotta...) for seabather's eruption (jellyfish larvae stings), this site advises against it: http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/aa121164.asp However,

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
William T Goodall wrote: The main human error being at Microsoft, in the design of Windows. An OS deliberately designed to ignore the accumulated wisdom of decades in regard to computer security. Deliberately??? Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread Julia Thompson
maru wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: ... While my diver friends swear by the 'urine fix' (if you're hours out from shore/medical attention, you'll do what you gotta...) for seabather's eruption (jellyfish larvae stings), this site advises against it: http://my.webmd.com/hw/health_guide_atoz/aa121164.

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread maru
Nick Arnett wrote: William T Goodall wrote: The main human error being at Microsoft, in the design of Windows. An OS deliberately designed to ignore the accumulated wisdom of decades in regard to computer security. Deliberately??? Nick Yep. To make it easy to use. 'Make an OS any fool can use...

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread maru
Nick Lidster wrote: I love how age is brought in so soon. wow.. im a KID.. lol thx that actualy made my day :) I was too, till not that long ago. And I never made the mistake of thinking that Windows is as inherently secure, or more so, as any other mainstream OS. That's just foolish. And

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 7, 2005, at 4:53 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: William T Goodall wrote: The main human error being at Microsoft, in the design of Windows. An OS deliberately designed to ignore the accumulated wisdom of decades in regard to computer security. Deliberately??? That might be the correct word. I'm no

Re: SpamAdaption

2005-02-07 Thread Nick Arnett
Warren Ockrassa wrote: That might be the correct word. I'm not sure what else could be used to describe how VBS was given total system integration from the beginning, with hooks into (more ore less literally) every portion of the OS. IIRC there were more than a few people, in the pre-95 days, wh

the budget

2005-02-07 Thread d.brin
For those who still hypnotoze themselves that "Surplus Bill" Clinton was in some way more of an out of control spendthrift than the present gang of looters Bush revealed his fiscal 2006 budget today and, not surprisingly, it is a fraud. The NY Times has an excellent analysis: http://www.

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:39 PM Monday 2/7/2005, Deborah Harrell wrote: > Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ticia wrote: > >>Deborah Harrell wrote: > >>>Warren Ockrassa wrote: > >>>Isn't pee supposed to be good for jellyfish > stings? > >>I seem to recall that it might help with the pain > from > >>some

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:52 PM Monday 2/7/2005, maru wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: ... While my diver friends swear by the 'urine fix' (if you're hours out from shore/medical attention, you'll do what you gotta...) for seabather's eruption (jellyfish larvae stings), this site advises against it: http://my.webmd.com/h

Re: IPod Loading

2005-02-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Warren wrote: Of course, to do that you'd have to have an MP3 version of every possible song ever. Even just the most popular music would save a lot of time and every time somebody asked you to load what you didn't already have you would just add it to your db. Of course you might end up with

Re: IPod Loading

2005-02-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 7, 2005, at 8:51 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Warren wrote: Of course, to do that you'd have to have an MP3 version of every possible song ever. Even just the most popular music would save a lot of time and every time somebody asked you to load what you didn't already have you would just add

Re: You're In?

2005-02-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: Meat tenderizer contains enzymes which are intended to break down some of the proteins in the muscle tissue that forms the meat, thus making it more tender. It works to break down other proteins, too, such as the proteinaceous components of venom. I was at a Port Canaveral, Fla. b