Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-17 Thread Rob Wilkerson
On 10/17/06, Richard Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've a system that relies quite heavily on CGI.SERVER_NAME. > > Is there a more robust an alternative to this? I prefer to use CGI.HTTP_HOST. In Apache - at least with 1.3 a few years ago - CGI.SERVER_NAME returned the value in the ServerNa

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-17 Thread Richard Cooper
I've a system that relies quite heavily on CGI.SERVER_NAME. Is there a more robust an alternative to this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
By unknown I simply meant that it could be one of several possible pages within the site. So yes, all potential pages are internal and we do have control over those. A littel more detail... The initial page has a drop down select box. In the on change of that select I redirect to another page with

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Doug Bezona
> So the question at hand should be how can you make a link that will go > back one page (that page being unknown) and refresh it By "unknown", do you mean literally any arbitrary page on the internet, or an arbitrary page from within your site/application? If it's the former, there probably isn'

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/16/06, Doug Bezona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly though, the conclusion you probably should be coming to here is > not to depend on the referrer info being present for anything > meaningful, since there are a lot of things a potential user could have > installed, or ways a browser mig

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Doug Bezona
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 10:47 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer > > On 10/16/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any variable that is co

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Dave Watts
> But can anybody explain why the variable shows in Firefox, > but not IE? This makes me think there's an IE setting - maybe > the security or privacy level. I'll play around with those. There may well be a setting that you could change, that would change this specific instance of behavior. But

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/16/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any variable that is considered personal information and can be used for > tracking purposes may not be sent. > > Russ But can anybody explain why the variable shows in Firefox, but not IE? This makes me think there's an IE setting - maybe the securi

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Snake
Any variable that is considered personal information and can be used for tracking purposes may not be sent. Russ -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 October 2006 10:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer Does the browser

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Richard Cooper
Does the browser tend to do this with other CGI variables or is it mainly just the referer one? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, deli

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-16 Thread Snake
-Talk Subject: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: Cancel Real issue here is to go back one page, but to force that page to rel

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matt Williams wrote: > On 10/15/06, Claude Schneegans wrote: >> >> The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if >> it wants to. >> If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. > > How rude of the browser! Is this a setting the user can control? If the u

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/15/06, Doug Bezona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you by any chance running a security suite such as Zone Alarm, Norton > Internet >Security or the like? Nope. Pretty straightforward here. Matt Q. said: >The http_referer will only exist if the page load is a result of a link >click or a

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>How rude of the browser! Also note that is there is no referrer, the browser will not tell there is one ;-) The referrer is the page you clicked to get into the next page. If the user gets directly to your page, by typing the address or by bookmark, there is no referrer. >>Is this a setting

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Doug Bezona
AIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: 10/15/06 6:46 PM Subject: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: Cancel Real is

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Dave Watts
> > The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the > > browser,... if it wants to. > > If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. > > How rude of the browser! Is this a setting the user can control? Not directly from within a standard browser, although there are lot

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On 10/15/06, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>cgi.http_referer > > The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if > it wants to. > If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. How rude of the browser! Is

RE: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Quackenbush
: CF-Talk Subject: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: Cancel Real issue here is to go back one page, but to force that page

Re: Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>cgi.http_referer The http_referer vartiable is set and transmitted by the browser,... if it wants to. If the browser does not set it, the CF server will not get it. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/cust

Apache, IE & cgi.http_referer

2006-10-15 Thread Matt Williams
On my laptop, I can't get IE to give me output for cgi.http_referer. A dump of CGI shows it as a variable, but with empty string. Anyone else run into this? Sample code: Cancel Real issue here is to go back one page, but to force that page to reload. So a simple history.go(-1) doesn

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Loathe
Then you handle the fact that the variable doesn't exist mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER But what if he doesn't have control over the calling page? -Original Message- From: Charl

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
But what if he doesn't have control over the calling page? -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable fo

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
Ah... That might not work. I don't think that a page with only a cflocation is going to generate the referrer variable. -Original Message- From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Calling pa

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable for the current page, then call that variable instead of cgi.http_referrer -Original Message- From: Coldfusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Why

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Coldfusion
, March 29, 2006 8:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER > Calling page is: > > > > Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Calling page is: > > > > Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Colman
Calling page is: Still not working. -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER This is kind of like asking to make sure your computer is plugged in (so you've pro

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Also you have to be going to that page from another page for it to have a value... Eric ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236505 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscrip

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks DaveI'm not sure I'd use the word sillybut I hear ya ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the logic behind that little gem? ;-) Thanks CGI is a bit of a bastard because different web server software will return deferent lists. This can be confounded with proxy servers and other system

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the > logic behind that little gem? ;-) I can only speculate, but the set of CGI variables is dependent on the browser and the server, so my presumption is that they did this to reduce errors when checking CGI variables. I think it's kind

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ken Ferguson
should (i believe) always be a > key in the CGI scope (struct) for cgi.http_referer. However, the > value of that key could be an empty string (if the user bookmarked the > page, typed it in manually, etc). > > > On 3/29/06, Richard Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
>> checks for it's existence > > Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI > variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return > true: > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the l

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> checks for it's existence Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return true: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vend

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
wrote: > > cgi variable exists > > cgi variable does not exist > > > > #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# > > However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. > > Any comments appreciated. > > Rick Colman > > Just to eliminate any other kind

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
checks for it's existence half assed checks for it being blank the non-half assed approach would be: means it's blank This var is often blank or incorrect due to proxys etc. HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone:

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
what is the result of the conditional? the variable will always exist. there should (i believe) always be a key in the CGI scope (struct) for cgi.http_referer. However, the value of that key could be an empty string (if the user bookmarked the page, typed it in manually, etc). On 3/29/06

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
cgi variable exists cgi variable does not exist #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated. Rick Colman Just to eliminate any other kind of white space characters, I usually do a trim on anything I'm tryi

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Munson, Jacob
his to work, and the simple test case is: > > > > cgi variable exists > > cgi variable does not exist > > > > #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# > > However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. > > Any comments appreciated. This transmi

cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Colman
I am trying to get this to work, and the simple test case is: cgi variable exists cgi variable does not exist #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated. Rick Colman

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Eric Roberts
ot; on the page that tags the db counter each time the page is hit. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 08 March 2006 09:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables... I'm trying to track the number of hits from a site tha

Re: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Casey Dougall
a lot of problems > such as anti=spyware, anti-virus, browser plugins, firewalls etc . > > Russ > > -Original Message- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 March 2006 15:48 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables... > &

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Snake
Not all clients will NOT send http_refer, it is blocked by a lot of problems such as anti=spyware, anti-virus, browser plugins, firewalls etc . Russ -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Tracking cgi.http_referer

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Dave Watts
ns a > new browser window and that eliminates the possiblity of > tracking the variable. > > Is there a way around this and still get the http_referer? Well, first of all, you can never rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERER since it can be removed by proxies, security packages, etc. Often, ads are

RE: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
up to open a new browser window when his ad image is clicked. I can't place code in the URL, either... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Srinivasa Teja Palla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:02 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Tracking cgi.

Re: Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Srinivasa Teja Palla
Not sure if I read it properly, btu I think you can look at tag. In the src attribute you can actually put a url. like "http://blah/file.php"; in this php file you get the http referrer. in the add you somewhere put this img tag. in file.php, while doing whatever you want, you will put the src a

Tracking cgi.http_referer variables...

2006-03-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
I'm trying to track the number of hits from a site that a client has an ad on. I have his site stats in a db, but found not hits from that particular http_referer, although I know there should be. I think I tracked the problem to the fact that the ad opens a new browser window and that eliminates

RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Aldon
Thanks Justin! -Original Message- From: Justin D. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER > I need to maintain the url of the referer if the > current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the

RE: Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
> I need to maintain the url of the referer if the > current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the > best method of acheiving this? You could toss the value into a session variable, a cookie, a database, a structure in an application variable... There are a lot of options for keeping a value ar

Maintaining CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2005-10-18 Thread Aldon Moore
Hello Again Gurus! I need to maintain the url of the referer if the current page is reloaded seral times. Whats the best method of acheiving this? Eg: Visitor leaves a of pages "Page B,C,D,E,F or G" an goes to "Page A" page A is reloaded several times. How do I maintain the refering page A severa

RE: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Mark A Kruger
tring to the link or hidden variable. -Mark   -Original Message-   From: Brian Meloche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:54 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon   At the office, we've run into a bit of a snag with a scrip

Re: Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
is automatically > generates an account on our system and doesn't require the user to > sign into our system.  This feature is a requirement to our > application by the third party (our client). > > In this case, the consultant's code tries to authenticate from > cg

Alternative to cgi.http_referer - single signon

2004-08-31 Thread Brian Meloche
n our system and doesn't require the user to sign into our system.  This feature is a requirement to our application by the third party (our client). In this case, the consultant's code tries to authenticate from cgi.http_referer.  The problem we're getting is that we're not gett

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Rick Root
Donnie Carvajal wrote: > So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my > forms? Try using ticketmaster to buy some tickets, you'll see what is probably one of the more effective methods... then scan the list archives for the many discussions on methods of doing it.  =) 

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Scott Mulholland
Norton Internet Security and similar products will strip it. -Original Message- From: Donnie Carvajal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Donnie: There's been a lot of discussion on this topic in the past.  You can check the House Of Fusion archives for them. In general, the best method I've heard of is dynamically generating a unique value on form display that needs to be submitted to the form processing page.  Basically, when the

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Internet Privacy software will strip out the referrer oftentimes.  With all of the privacy issues and the software to address them, it might not be a good idea to rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERERespecially since it can be forged easily. Marlon > -Original Message- > From: Donnie Ca

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com   - Original Message -   From: Donnie Carvajal   To: CF-Talk   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 8:40 AM   Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!   I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Donnie Carvajal
So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my forms?   -Original Message-   From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:50 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!   Donnie:   The "Referer" header i

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Jim Davis
Sending a referrer is entirely up to the browser/system - most home firewall software will prevent referrers from being sent for example. You really should never use referrer as security mechanism it's just not reliable enough. Jim Davis I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variab

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
t: Monday, July 12, 2004 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites from submitting forms; however, I have seen some strange things.  The same form on one computer when the form is submitted will have data in C

CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Donnie Carvajal
I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites from submitting forms; however, I have seen some strange things.  The same form on one computer when the form is submitted will have data in CGI.HTTP_REFERER and on another computer, CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank.  Any ideas of

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-08-27 Thread Christopher Olive
: Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work? On 7/1/02 9:22 AM, "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? >> >> Yes > > I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's locat

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-08-27 Thread Jann VanOver
On 7/1/02 9:22 AM, "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? >> >> Yes > > I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's location preventing > the data going out, rather than the firewall at the server's location >

RE: Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread FlashGuy
Cool! Thanks On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:44:45 +0100, Philip Arnold - ASP wrote: > > I need to extract "d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\" and decode the > > line so it appears as "d:\temp\testdir000\" > > > > I'm not sure of the correct syntax? > > > > http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestd

RE: Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
> I need to extract "d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\" and decode the > line so it appears as "d:\temp\testdir000\" > > I'm not sure of the correct syntax? > > http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ Look up URLdecode(), it does exactly that - unless you're running CF4.5, then ther

Extract substring from cgi.http_referer string

2002-08-13 Thread FlashGuy
Hi, I need to extract "d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\" and decode the line so it appears as "d:\temp\testdir000\" I'm not sure of the correct syntax? http://127.0.0.1/test/index.cfm?dir=d%3A%5Ctemp%5Ctestdir000\ __ This list and

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-28 Thread Dave Watts
> A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from > the HTTP request... a lot of work, and I can't imagine what > additional security would be gained from doing this. Imagine that you've got a relatively unsavory site with a bunch of links to less unsavory sites. You might not want to

Re: Was: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-28 Thread mark brinkworth
; > I have always regarded the use of HTTP_Referer as a security measure to >be > > rather poor, as it can easily be spoofed. So my sites don't rely on it, > > although occassionally they may use it to refine error messages. > > > > Cheers > > > > &g

Was: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
error messages. > > Cheers > > > > >The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer > >even > >though my outlook insists on arguing with me and changing it to referrer. > > > >But as you have discovered, not all browsers send the param

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
I have always regarded the use of HTTP_Referer as a security measure to be rather poor, as it can easily be spoofed. So my sites don't rely on it, although occassionally they may use it to refine error messages. Cheers >The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Michael Kear
The correct spelling is the American spelling - i.e. cgi.http_referer even though my outlook insists on arguing with me and changing it to referrer. But as you have discovered, not all browsers send the parameter, because the anti-spamming measures adopted by a lot of people block it. This

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
ay. I'm stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working >on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value >isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what browser I use. It's >just not there. I've tried different

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Joe Eugene
Turn on "Debugging" on you development box. This should show you all the values in the CGI scope. Joe -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Okay. I'm stump

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Jim McAtee
Which web server and version of CF are running on this server? On my CF5/IIS5 server, I always have the exact same set of CGI variable (including CGI.HTTP_REFERER), but some of them will sometimes have a zero length string as there value. A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
quot;CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > I'm checking it in my Application.cfm. I want to see whether the page > before the current page is from my site or not. If not, I want to do > something different. I am

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu
this with my IT department. Thanks anyway, Matthieu -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER The syntax on the first one is correct. Are you referencing it after a page reque

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working > on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value > isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu
Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whole lovely plan for something I'm working on. It involved looking at the value of CGI.HTTP_REFERER. But that value isn't coming up on my radar. It doesn't matter what browser I use. It's just not there. I've tried differen

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread dev
>>I doubt that you can do this without some assistance from the intervening >>page. While browsers have a history object, <<< >>> > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came >>> > from, is there a way to look back 2 pages

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread mark brinkworth
. Cheers >From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:03:45 -0500 > >I mean for pages out of my control. Like say the user first goes to a >

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Jim Vosika
Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Craig Thomas
>>>>I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came >>from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? >> >>Thanks! >>Jim Vosika << I have never done this, but the javascript object model has a history object which has the in

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Kevin Miller
Not unless you pass the previous page as a variable of some sort (cookie, URL, form, etc). Kevin >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/02 03:19PM >>> I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? Thanks! Jim Vosika ht

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Jim Vosika
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Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>> Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? > > Yes I guess this would typically be the firewall at the user's location preventing the data going out, rather than the firewall at the server's location preventing the data coming in... I'm not sure I understand the reasoning b

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
ing to have any work > from me. > > So the test I've got on my page is if cgi.http_referer is the article, or > elsewhere in my app, then they're granted access, other wise they get sent > back to the article using > However lately, I have had some users who can&#

Re: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
cgi.http_referrer works most of the time... but not all ... if a user attempts to go directly to a page ( for instance from a bookmark ) without passing through a previous page, then there isn't any cgi.http_referrer variable when they get to the page... you can use to ensure that it's defined,

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-07-01 Thread Dave Watts
> Does cgi.http_referer always work with all browsers? No. > Do some firewalls prevent browsers passing on this variable? Yes. > Because if it's not provided my app will assume they have > no right to be here and kick them out. > > How else can I check that t

RE: Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-06-30 Thread Tony Gruen
I use cgi.http_referer on one of our sites. The issue that has arisen with us is if someone has Firewall software installed on their computer or is behind a really restricted firewall on their network. As far as I have been able to determine, under such circumstances there is a chance that

Does cgi.http_referer ALWAYS work?

2002-06-30 Thread Mike Kear
to members only based on the content management system's settings rather than my coldfusion programming. If a content writer changes the status of the article, it also changes the status of the CF application without needing to have any work from me. So the test I've got on my page is i

Cgi.http_referer

2002-05-17 Thread Eric J Hoffman
Is this no longer functional in 5.0? Did we miss something as it is not working on our new 5.0 server. Cfif not #cgi.http_referer# eq "index.cfm" cflocation url="index.cfm" /cfif Thanks for any pointers. Regards, Eric J. Hoffman Director of Internet Development

RE: Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-13 Thread Dave Watts
e > restricts access appropriately. The code I'm using is as > follows: > > even though there's no variable called CGI.FOO_BAR. Second, and more important, you can't rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERER for any serious security anyway, since it's sent by the browser,

RE: Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-13 Thread David Armstrong
Hi Michael, I've checked out Opera for you and yup, cgi.HTTP_REFERER exists. In regards to your code all i would do is rewrite it like this, but that doesn't affect how it works in the browser: ... Rgds Dave A. -Original Message- From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Opera and cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2002-05-12 Thread Michael Kear
I have a page which allows access only if a user is coming from a specific page, and I use http_referer to grant or deny access. But I don't think Opera gives this variable. can anyone else verify that? And how do you get around it? The situation is people buy access to an article or serie

Why am I not getting the correct cgi.http_referer?

2002-01-14 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
using a meta refresh tag): ...the final page checks for the cgi.http_referer, and if it exists, it performs a specific action: ...do something... However, the http_referer variable is always returned as http://localhost/ without the directory or script information. Any ideas as

CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2001-12-04 Thread John McCosker
Yes there! This may sound overly naive but, on the index page of one of our web applications, I have done a check for the #cgi.http_referer# environment variable. Then I have done a search through MNS (per say), where it links directly to the (URL AND) template, the variable is defined but it

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Robertson
illa/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) I guess we cannot do anything to prevent this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Sima Lee
happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I g

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