Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 02:43:13AM -0700, David Wright wrote: | | I'll ignore the ad hominem. How about a poll at debianplanet? | | ( ) No architecture should move forward untill all can move | forward together. | | ( ) i386 and PPC should take priority; other architectures | can follow

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:59:41PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > I'm using 2.4.18 myself, but that isn't relevant to the original > poster's request for a stable distribution using (meaning something > like "coming with") a 2.4.x kernel. But woody does come with kernel 2.4.x. Just because it's not i

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
> I doubt that this would be a useful metric, given that people > tracking less-stable versions are likely to be updating more > frequently. It is possible to count unique IPs, rather than bytes. Another poster pointed out the problem of local archives, but there is no reason to assume that stabl

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread D.J. Bolderman
seb bastos wrote: in'st it the 'stable' field to be replace by 'testing'??? Bastos No. There are 3 options. Stable, Unstable and Testing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"David" == David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It's not really at all clear that this was where the mistake lay. David> I never thought I would be advocating more management, but here goes... David> Debian, as another poster pointed out, has grown from ~50 to David> ~2000 developers

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ian" == Ian D Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> But to answer your question, there are several projects I have Ian> an interest in. I have even started writing code for eventual Ian> contribution to one of them. You, or anybody else for that Ian> matter, are perfectly welcome to pr

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I certainly appreciate the multiple architecture support of Debian. I John> have it installed on a powerpc, m68k, and x86 box. I initially John> installed it on my m68k box, since Debian was the only distribution John> that suppo

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:43:57PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > Surely you can use any kernel you like. I've been using 2.4.18 since it > came out and will upgrade to 2.4.19 as soon as it's released. I'm using 2.4.18 myself, but that isn't relevant to the original poster's request for a stabl

Update - RE: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

2002-06-05 Thread Ronald Castillo
Just to update something new I have found out.. I tried pinging my ADSL router and my brother´s PC from my Linux box and it doesn't work either, but it did work from my Windows PC when I had it connected directly to my ADSL router. So, now I'm feeling pretty clueless... At least in all my PCs (incl

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:47:59PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Indeed, the security team indicated that potato support would > have to be dropped summarily when woody was released _unless_ changes > were made (or a decision would have to be made to only support some > arches, but not

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:49:02AM -0700, David Wright wrote: | There are two justifications for supporting many architectures on | the table: | (1) We wanna. Isn't this how all of OSS works? | (2) It's for the good of the users. | (2) is just not true. It would be, if Debian had suff

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Noah" == Noah Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Noah> The 11 architecures *are* what's holding up the release. The Noah> whole reason the security team needs the new build Noah> infrastructure is that it's not a reasonable expectation for Noah> them to be able to manually build updated

Re: his post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 12:02:06PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: | On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:16:49AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: | | > Who the hell cares about sheer numbers of users out there in | > the wild? I sure as hell don't. If numbers had been important to me, | > I would not have bee

sysquery: no addrs found for root NS ()

2002-06-05 Thread nate
hi I run many name servers, and a few days ago errors such as this started appearing in one of the log files for one of the servers: Jun 5 06:52:20 mail-wa named[143]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS (name.ualberta.ca) Jun 5 06:52:20 mail-wa named[143]: sysquery: no addrs found for root NS

RE: rc.local in debian (was: Ip Masquerading)

2002-06-05 Thread Ronald Castillo
Hello.. I have configured my second interface as you told me (with a few changes) and it's now working fine!!! Thanks a lot for your help to you all!!! Just two more questions.. I don't know if I should place "auto" on it because the Windows box isn't permanently turned on, so I think that Linux

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 13:47 Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>"Ian" == Ian D Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted Ian> by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he Ian> was the one ranting about about his $250,00/hr fee) m

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Pete Harlan
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:47:17PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Ian" == Ian D Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ian> Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted > Ian> by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he > Ian> was the one ranting a

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:30:12AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Well, this is only partially true. All architectuures for > Woody are ready. They are not delaying the release. What is not ready > is the ability to support security for woody and potato for even the > architectures that

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Robin Putters
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 21:08, Charlie Grosvenor wrote: > I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd > How can I solve this problem? > apt-get install --reinstall libc6 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: Spam mail question

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 02:34:01PM +, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: | | Hi all, | How to reject mail with from like this: "<>" at a Debian GNU/Linux | box and Exim? What you mean by "from"? There are two meanings of it 1) the envelope This is specified in the

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:47:27 -0500 "Dave Sherohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:18:29AM -0700, David Wright wrote: > > in the interest of Debian getting to > > know the needs of its customers (a phrase calculated to annoy Manoj > > :-), what are the percentage users of p

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Charlie Grosvenor wrote: > I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd > How can I solve this problem? > install libc6 again. Something must have deleted it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

MH and mutt

2002-06-05 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello, Can mutt work with folders in mh format? If so, how? I am running woody. TIA Marcelo -- Marcelo Chiapparini DFT-IF/UERJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already. A large number > of people have been running on Woody for quite some time. It's as stable as > it's going to get. Just do an apt-get dist upgrade and get it over wit

Re: port forwarding

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 12:23:58PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: | * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020603 08:34]: | > iptables just confuses me at times. | > | > I'm trying to figure out how to forward all packets hitting this machine | > on one port to a port on another machine inside my network

RE: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Charlie Grosvenor
I have the package libc6 installed but don't have the file /usr/bin/ldd How can I solve this problem? Charlie -Original Message- From: Sean Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean 'Shaleh' Perry Sent: 05 June 2002 17:40 To: Charlie Grosvenor Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subj

Re: location of Maildir - /var/mail or ~/Maildir?

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:52:21PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: | On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 00:06, dman wrote: | > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:06:25PM -0500, Roach, Mark R. wrote: ... | > | I see that with authuserdb, I can specify /var/mail for the Maildir, but | > | I would prefer to not have to keep a s

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:18:29AM -0700, David Wright wrote: > in the interest of Debian getting to > know the needs of its customers (a phrase calculated to annoy Manoj :-), > what are the percentage users of potato, woody, and sid? I assume this > could be estimated from average daily activity f

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2002-06-05 Thread Thibaud de Borggraef
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woody, alsa, terratec ewx => how?

2002-06-05 Thread tobias
hi, i am looking for a howto to install my terratec ewx. i am new to linux and debian. i cannot find a documentation i can use - the ones at alsaproject appear to be either old or i do not understand them / things do not work, are different on debian. could any kind soul who successfully runs

Re: Mgetty - Dial-in Server ---- HELP PLEASE!

2002-06-05 Thread curtis
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:29:54PM -0700, curtis wanted to write, but didn't: How? The contents of the relevant log file /var/log/mgetty/mg_ttyS0.log should give a clue. (Apologies if you have looked already) Having turned on debugging, here is the output of my log file: [ snip, snip ]

Re: open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread Mike Dresser
On 5 Jun 2002, tvn1981 wrote: > > Hi, I have the following ports open and I am not sure what they are. > Whether or not they are really needed. My other Linux box (rh) doesn't > have these so I am wondering what these are in Debian > > 9/tcp opendiscard > 13/tcp opendaytim

mozilla 1.0

2002-06-05 Thread Bryan K. Walton
Now that Mozilla 1.0 has been released, and Debian 3.0 is stuck in a frozen state, is there anyway that we can sneak Mozilla 1.0 into the release? It would be a shame to release Debian 3.0 in the next couple of weeks and not include Moz 1.0. -Bryan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

open ports question

2002-06-05 Thread tvn1981
Hi, I have the following ports open and I am not sure what they are. Whether or not they are really needed. My other Linux box (rh) doesn't have these so I am wondering what these are in Debian 9/tcp opendiscard 13/tcp opendaytime

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 13:00 Gary Hennigan wrote: "Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Oleg" == Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oleg> How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, > Oleg> yet modern (compared to Potato)? > > Perhaps number of packages has something to do with this? How

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread David Wright
> It's not really at all clear that this was where the mistake lay. I never thought I would be advocating more management, but here goes... Debian, as another poster pointed out, has grown from ~50 to ~2000 developers. And those developers, being "geeks" rather than "suits", respond to problems

Re: syslog-ng gets no kernel messages --- SOLVED

2002-06-05 Thread Martin Hermanowski
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 03:51:45PM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote: > I installed the package "syslog-ng", replacing the package "sysklogd". > After this, my kernel logs (including my "iptables" logs) no longer > went to /var/log/{kern,debug,messages}, or any other file in /var/log. > Syslog-ng would

Re: How to install Debian from CD ROM

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Webb
If you are trying to do the network install did you load the driver for you NIC card?? And if you selected a NIC driver did it actually load? It sounds like Debian isn't recognizing your network... Robert Jim wrote: I've downloaded the Debian CD a couple of times but can't install it on a ne

ethernet connection drop while idle

2002-06-05 Thread ThanhVu Nguyen
my ethernet card drops its connection after some idle time, then come back when the computer is active again... how can I change this behavior in Linux (I don't want to reboot and go to the Bios and change this because I want to keep my uptime) ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2002-06-05 Thread justin cunningham
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Downloading and installing woody

2002-06-05 Thread Francisco Fialho
I'm new to Debian, first heard about it at the Install Fest that took place at Univeristy of Campinas ( one of brazilians top 3 ). I downloaded it, and tried to install Debian 2.2rev6, but unsuccessfully. I had problems with the network and video card, but know I want to try it again with the lat

Re: location of Maildir - /var/mail or ~/Maildir?

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 00:06, dman wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 02:06:25PM -0500, Roach, Mark R. wrote: > | I know this might be a religious matter, but is there a good reason for > | maildirs to go in ~/Maildir? > > DJB thinks that is the only way. > hmm, I wonder what the reasoning is behin

sshd

2002-06-05 Thread O Senhor
Hello, I'm trying setup sshd to one chroot environment, but when i try log in, the error messages from server is: ... debug1: Allocating pty. debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp0 debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, yet modern > (compared to Potato)? I think it's because they don't have a "zero-bugs" release policy like Debian. The base system is stable. The stuff in the ports tree is not, from my experience. I once decided to install gdm on a

Re: howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Webb
If you don't mind a little reading try the link below. http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst irado furioso com tudo wrote: I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, install the whole Debian. While I

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread John Hasler
Oleg writes: > How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, yet modern > (compared to Potato)? Mostly by being much, much smaller. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ian" == Ian D Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> Speaking only for myself, it was the condescending tone adopted Ian> by one of the developers (don't remember the fellow's name; he Ian> was the one ranting about about his $250,00/hr fee) more than Ian> the actual content that I found

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Oleg" == Oleg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Oleg> How does FreeBSD manage to stay reasonably secure and stable, Oleg> yet modern (compared to Potato)? Perhaps number of packages has something to do with this? How does testing compare to freebsd in terms of security and stability? (I

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Ian Smit
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:13:44AM -0300, irado furioso com tudo wrote: > > I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the > very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select > a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? What tool are you usi

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Jun 2002, Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > > Are you really named "Brooks Robinson" or is that a nom du net? > > [snip] > > | not need me. And I need a stable release > > | with the 2.4 kernel. > > [another snip] > > > My conclusion

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Alan Shutko
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, Woody changed to a 2.4 kernel? At last report it was still using > 2.2x. Woody has 2.4 kernels, just defaults to a 2.2 kernel. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Got a dictionary? I want to know the meaning of life. --

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:30:39PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > [snip] > > | not need me. And I need a stable release > > | with the 2.4 kernel. > > [another snip] > > > My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already

test, please ignore

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
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Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread seb bastos
in'st it the 'stable' field to be replace by 'testing'??? Bastos From: "D.J. Bolderman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Subject: Re: Upgrade to Woody Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:05:20 +0200 (CEST) > I'm currently using Debian's stable release but, due to some delays in > the

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread John Schmidt
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:37 am, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > Debian is run by a few hundred programmers who do this for fun. Not > profit. Because we do this for fun we choose where to spend our time. > For some people the mips architecture and the required hacking is > fun. Others are con

Re: How to change resolution in X-window?

2002-06-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Markus wrote: > > I have a very simple but irritating problem: I have > started (right after installation of Debian) startx > and now it automatically starts every time the system > is started. The resolution is though way too low > (340*240 or something) and this causes huge > difficulties in try

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:02:02AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > On 2002.06.05 09:32 Colin Watson wrote: > >I hope you don't find this comment abusive. It's worth remembering > >that many developers are feeling under quite a lot of pressure right > >now, because a large percentage of the more voca

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Pietro Cagnoni
Ian D. Stewart wrote: Howdy Folks, Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to automate this process and/or convince Linux to set t

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. > From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth > usage). Yes, blackholing the messages is easy. As for bandwidth being t

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Ivo Wever
Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:43:46PM +0200, Ivo Wever wrote: > On a related matter: if a number of developers were at odds with part > of the current policy, how would they be able to try and change the > policy regarding that issue (supposing that if the majority of > developer

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:27:54AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to >

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Michel Loos
Em Qua, 2002-06-05 às 08:41, Nick Jacobs escreveu: > A few days ago, David Wright posted a message to this > list, questioning the wisdom of Debian's decision > to target 11 architectures. He pointed out (with > supporting references) that this decision has > contributed to a long delay in releasin

howto install from Internet

2002-06-05 Thread irado furioso com tudo
I donot wish to down/burn any *iso. Many persecs ago it was possible to just make 2 floppies and, directly connected to the Internet, install the whole Debian. While I already perused the debian.org site, I found not the necessary directions on how to make the boot/root flopies to install from the

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
"irado furioso com tudo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the > very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select > a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? Please read the man page for adduser and th

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to > automate this process and/or convince Li

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to > automate this process and/or convince Linu

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Lanett
It's called "user private groups" I think, and you want it. You can add generic groups as well of course, but the user should have their own private group. There is documentation about this somewhere; I read some on Red Hat's site once. ~mark - Original Message - From: "irado furioso com

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 04:41:20AM -0700, Nick Jacobs wrote: > The main result was that a small number of > Debian insiders posted abusive comments > in response to David's perfectly reasonable > message. Maybe I've just been around the 'net too long and been too hardened by it, but I haven't seen

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread DvB
irado furioso com tudo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the > very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select > a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? > man adduser If the user's already added,

Re: group equals username.. why?

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:13:44AM -0300, irado furioso com tudo wrote: > I noted that when creating a user, it is assumed a group name with the > very same username (user irado, group irado). Is there a way to select > a generic (say: users) group when creating new users? dpkg-reconfigure adduser

RE: DNS resolution problem

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 04:01, George Karaolides wrote: > > Sorry to be replying to my own post, but there was a typo in my email. > I meant to say: > > --- Begin erratum --- > > dig @192.168.4.5 www.google.com > > works just fine! But putting 192.168.4.5 in /etc/resolv.conf and doing > > dig w

Re: Debian GIS

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 12:17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Can anybody recomend a good GIS (Geographical Information System) > package for debian? I did a quick search with 'apt-cache search GIS', > but got a long list of unrelated results. I've found GR

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 04:27, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Howdy Folks, > > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to > automate thi

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 05:27:54AM -0400, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to > automate this proc

Re: Server won't reboot automatically after "init 6".

2002-06-05 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Simon Tneoh Chee-Boon said: > Hello all, > Thanks in advance for any help provided. > I installed a Debian Linux 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 on a HP NetServer LC 3 > machine. > Whenever I run "init 6" to restart the server, I can see the server > shutting down > and try

Re: /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: command not found when installin

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Jun-2002 Charlie Grosvenor wrote: > Hi > I have just done a clean install of potato and then upgraded to > woody. I then tried to install a new kernel, during the install it says > the following: > > Setting up kernel-image-2.4.18-586tsc (2.4.18-5) ... > /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: ldd: comma

Re: Apache with Tomcat4 package

2002-06-05 Thread Hubert Chan
> "Emil" == Emil Hägerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Emil> Thanks, Connector? -- BUT, how is it meant for users to Emil> connect apache and tomcat4 under testing? Shall I get a connector Emil> from Jakartas archive? You can try libapache-mod-jk or libapache-mod-webapp. Emil> JDK -

Debian testing/3.0 Installation Procedure on Cobalt/Sun RaQ 3+

2002-06-05 Thread Robert Gash
Our company purchased a Cobalt RaQ 3 some years ago. As time progressed it became increasingly ill-suited for our purposes and we finally decided to decommission it. Since the hardware is worth more to us as a server than it would be on eBay, we decided to put another, modern, distribution on the

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Nick" == Nick Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nick> A few days ago, David Wright posted a message to this list, Nick> questioning the wisdom of Debian's decision to target 11 Nick> architectures. He pointed out (with supporting references) that Nick> this decision has contributed to a lo

fatal error: writefb: virtual res doesn't equal physical res

2002-06-05 Thread andrej hocevar
This is the error dvifb gives me. Here's what fbset says: mode "1024x768-76" # D: 78.653 MHz, H: 59.949 kHz, V: 75.694 Hz geometry 1024 768 1024 4096 8 timings 12714 128 32 16 4 128 4 rgba 6/0,6/0,6/0,0/0 endmode What does it mean? If I try to change it, the console gets messed up

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:25:22AM -0500, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Are you really named "Brooks Robinson" or is that a nom du net? [snip] > | not need me. And I need a stable release > | with the 2.4 kernel. [another snip] > My conclusion is that Woody is effectively released already. So,

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread David Z Maze
Paladin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm currently using Debian's stable release but, due to some delays in the > versions of some libraries that won't let me compile some programs, I > would like to upgrade to Woody. My question is (of course): how!? > Is apt-get dist-upgrade safe enough? It sho

Desktop suitability (was Re: this post is not off-topic)

2002-06-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:15:45AM -0300, synthespian wrote: > You can't use Potato for a desktop (to outdated) and you remain in this > security limbo... Why does everyone keep repeating this "potato is too old to be a desktop" line? I heartily disagree and I have somewhere in the neighb

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ivo" == Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivo> Manoj wrote: >> What the non free world does, or does not do, does not >> affect release decisions for Debian. We release when we are ready. We >> are not yet ready. Period. Ivo> I think what some people fear is that this implementation o

Re: this post is not off-topic

2002-06-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Ivo" == Ivo Wever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivo> On a related matter: if a number of developers were at odds with Ivo> part of the current policy, how would they be able to try and Ivo> change the policy regarding that issue (supposing that if the Ivo> majority of developers, including th

Re: Setting system time on startup

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 05:27:54 -0400 "Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right now, when booting my linux box, the system clock is off by four > hours (I'm guessing it is set to GMT). I can reset the clock using > date, but this is starting to get a bit tedious. Is there a way to > au

advansys scsi controller

2002-06-05 Thread Henning, Brian
Hello- I am having problems with my advansys scsi controller on boot. What happens is it goes through and looks for devices on each of the 7 scsi chains 2 times each. I don't know if it is the wrong driver that is loading or what. I thought i could pass in a kernel command on boot. boot: advansy

Re: Debian GIS

2002-06-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote: > Can anybody recomend a good GIS (Geographical Information System) > package for debian? I did a quick search with 'apt-cache search GIS', > but got a long list of unrelated results. I've found GRASS on > freshmeat, but there doesn't appear to be .de

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Ian D. Stewart
On 2002.06.05 09:32 Colin Watson wrote: I hope you don't find this comment abusive. It's worth remembering that many developers are feeling under quite a lot of pressure right now, because a large percentage of the more vocal users sometimes seem to be engaging in a "trash-the-developers campai

Re: Beginning to try to secure my box.

2002-06-05 Thread marshal
> "Paladin" == Paladin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Paladin> On 05 Jun 2002 13:58:48 +0200 Paladin> Mark Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Also check your /etc/inetd.conf Paladin> time, daytime and discard, what are these for?? You probably don't need them, and to what I

Re: jigdo-easy /woody

2002-06-05 Thread andrej hocevar
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 01:12:34PM +0200, jfcarvajal wrote: > > I have a problem when trying to download a woody iso image with jigdo-easy. > It always says "oops! some file missed. First I followed the readme > intructions but i had always the same message. I don't know about jigdo-easy (I assum

Re: What do I need for proxy email and firewall debian server?

2002-06-05 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 08:14:28 +0800 "Motiv8d" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not really an expert on all the subjects, but have some experience with e-mail/http/firewalls. So I hope more will give their opinion. > been using MS packages. What I would like to do is have packages able > to be impleme

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Oleg
On Wednesday 05 June 2002 09:25 am, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > 1.  Woody is frozen. > 2.  It is unlikely that any new packages are going in, assumption based > upon point 1. > 3.  Security is not in place to handle Woody. > 4.  A security issue would more than likely be a release critical bug. > 5

Re: Upgrade to Woody

2002-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 02:05:41PM +0100, Paladin wrote: > I'm currently using Debian's stable release but, due to some delays in the > versions of some libraries that won't let me compile some programs, I > would like to upgrade to Woody. My question is (of course): how!? Try the release notes, h

Re: What do I need for email virus checking on debian server?

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:29:49AM +0800, Motiv8d wrote: | Hi Further to my last post. I would also like to be able to virus check | email attachments, change extensions on .js etc | What would be the suitable antivirus options? and | Email package or addon that allows rule based modification of

Re: OT: mutt and followup_to

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:51:29AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:11:05AM +1000, Chris Kenrick wrote: | > According to mutt doco, if one sets followup_to to yes, and adds a | > mailing list definition eg subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED], then | > mutt will automagically add the

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:34:27AM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: | > In any case, idiots who auto-reply to every list mail they receive until | > they get their way are not easily defeated by any technological solution. | | He he... Indeed! Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their mes

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:39:02PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: | Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: | | > Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help | > him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! | > That would save a lot of bandwidth (the offending post

Re: Debian: abandon ship?

2002-06-05 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > With hindsight, it's clear that trying to > support too many architectures was a mistake. > Of course, everybody makes mistakes. It is truly > said that he who never made a mistake, never > made anything. > > But what separates the doers from the wannabes > is the ability to admit a mistake,

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