Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-20 Thread Swell
Feedbacks taken to improve pages on 4 branches (7.0, 7.1, 8, 9) pending questions should be in https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/866#issuecomment-1103873430 - Swell On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 20:46, Swell wrote: > Thanks! > > * i took the Java EE 7 pdf spec to get JSR ids > * i added comparison

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-20 Thread Swell
Thanks! * i took the Java EE 7 pdf spec to get JSR ids * i added comparison page for 7.0 without MP * currently taking the github feedback into the pages Swell On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 20:25, David Blevins wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:13 AM, David Blevins > wrote: > > > >> - i lack some J

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-20 Thread David Blevins
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 11:13 AM, David Blevins wrote: > >> - i lack some JSR specs number, i need to dig them, working on it, help >> appreciated On this one, I don't have the JSR numbers handy but TomEE 7 is based on Java EE 7. If you grab the Java EE 7 spec, the right JSRs numbers are scatt

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-20 Thread David Blevins
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 3:59 AM, Swell wrote: > > i also agree about ease of maintenance. > > i started working on comparison page v7.1, here are some thoughts : > https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/866 > > i have several questions/issues: > > - i lack some JSR specs number, i need to dig th

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-20 Thread Swell
i also agree about ease of maintenance. i started working on comparison page v7.1, here are some thoughts : https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/866 i have several questions/issues: - i lack some JSR specs number, i need to dig them, working on it, help appreciated - this comparison pag

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-19 Thread Zowalla, Richard
Comments are still pending? Didn't see any? +1 for don't maintain it in two different places + David's idea. Gruß Richard Am Dienstag, dem 19.04.2022 um 14:33 -0700 schrieb David Blevins: > Those pages looking great! Left some specific comments in the PR. > > > On Apr 17, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Sw

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-19 Thread David Blevins
Those pages looking great! Left some specific comments in the PR. > On Apr 17, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Swell wrote: > > Thank you all for your feedbacks, comparison pages sent for review: > + https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/854 > + https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/855 Thanks for tracking d

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-17 Thread Swell
Thank you all for your feedbacks, comparison pages sent for review: + https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/854 + https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/855 you might want those two "per-version" comparison pages to be without the tables for "flavors" and "implementations" since these tables also are

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-12 Thread David Blevins
Sounds awesome, everyone. Total side note. I cannot express how much I love seeing this much engagement and collaboration. Often times PRs don't get any feedback at all and sit for months. It's really fantastic to see activity like this. -David > On Apr 12, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Swell wrote

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-12 Thread Swell
This reflects my first attempts, i still have them "per-version" uncommited, already linking to specs by precise version so it wont be too hard for me to turn around, and give you these versions. the drawback is these pages may have to be maintained on dependencies updates and releases, but that

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-12 Thread Cesar Hernandez
> > all the TomEE 7.0 stuff would say "Java EE" not "Jakarta EE" and use > "Enterprise JavaBeans" not "Jakarta EnterpriseBeans", etc. Agree, I overlooked the fact that spec names changed along with namespace. El mar, 12 abr 2022 a las 12:09, Zowalla, Richard (< richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de>)

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-12 Thread Zowalla, Richard
Makes sense, imho. Thanks for the thoughts, David. That would simplify it for the reader. If we have it per version and link the per version documents from the overall comparision, we are proabably in a good shape. Am Dienstag, dem 12.04.2022 um 10:58 -0700 schrieb David Blevins: > Hey All, >

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-12 Thread David Blevins
Hey All, I see there's a big thread on PR#37. - https://github.com/apache/tomee-site-generator/pull/37 My gut reaction is that we might be trying to achieve the impossible by trying to fit every TomEE version and every Java EE/Jakarta EE version into one massive matrix or page. What do peopl

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-04-02 Thread Swell
Thanks ! i've put some work for the website comparison pages on a draft PR https://github.com/apache/tomee-site-generator/pull/37 though I lack some info : * TomEE works on both JDK and JRE, but can use more memory/cache in JDK. is this right ? Is JDK to be preferred ? * my TomEE 8.x is working o

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread Zowalla, Richard
I agree with both of you :) It is a common question and is often asked on Stackoverflow: which version of TomEE supports which JDK, which JEE Standard is covered with which TomEE version, which TomEE version should be used in 2022, ... I am sure we can be more clear on the website. I am happy to

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 31, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Swell wrote: > > > It would be great to have per-major comparison pages. And in fact, there are, > but their rendering are broken. i have some free time to work on it. here are > the existing urls I thought using > > https://tomee.apache.org/tomee-8.0/docs/comp

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread Swell
It would be great to have per-major comparison pages. And in fact, there are, but their rendering are broken. i have some free time to work on it. here are the existing urls I thought using https://tomee.apache.org/tomee-8.0/docs/comparison.html https://tomee.apache.org/tomee-9.0/docs/comparison.h

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 31, 2022, at 1:06 PM, Thomas Andraschko > wrote: > > +1 to remove war distribution > > AFAIR we shade Jakarta in BVal? > Otherwise i would also work on a bigbang change in BVal We tried to use the shaded version, but there were a lot of TCK test failures and only a day left to make t

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread Thomas Andraschko
+1 to remove war distribution AFAIR we shade Jakarta in BVal? Otherwise i would also work on a bigbang change in BVal Do we already use MyFaces 3.0 in master? David Blevins schrieb am Do., 31. März 2022, 20:19: > Thank you, Swell, for helping to get those versions aligned! > > Some high-level

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page / TOMEE-3871 - TomEE Plume is missing BatchEE / JCS Cache

2022-03-31 Thread David Blevins
Thank you, Swell, for helping to get those versions aligned! Some high-level thoughts: - Romain is right that we could potentially use the TomEE-Maven-Plugin to build the various distributions. Swell also had some ideas on simplifying how the distributions are built. We've also had a couple

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page

2022-03-31 Thread Zowalla, Richard
I went ahead and merged the changes by Swell. @Swell: Thank you!! Cherry picked them to master (9.x) as well. Now the distributions contain the libs specified on the website. Gruß Richard Am Montag, dem 28.03.2022 um 08:18 + schrieb Zowalla, Richard: > As we merged the comparision page, we s

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page

2022-03-28 Thread Zowalla, Richard
As we merged the comparision page, we should now tackle: https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/828 There was a discussion regarding the original intentions of plume. If we agree, that "Those distributions are supposed to be the same minus the JPA and JSF providers.", then we should go a-head and m

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page

2022-03-25 Thread Swell
Thanks for your kind feedback. @Richard, I'll gladly change Tomee Plume pom to include BatchEE, PR : in progress with a blocker i can also resolve. @David, about the flavors page, i think your suggestions are simpler and better, applied them on names consistency and added a table of implementatio

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page

2022-03-24 Thread Zowalla, Richard
Hi all, Thanks for your mail and your work in making the page more clear, Swell! Your work is very much appreciated. > Total side note to the wider dev list, we really need to get JBatch > into Plume! Those distributions are supposed to be the same minus > the JPA and JSF providers. I created

Re: TOMEE-3846 flavors comparison page

2022-03-24 Thread David Blevins
> On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Swell wrote: > > Regarding Tomee website : one web page mislead me to believe that Tomee Plus > includes Tomee Plume, and it made it hard for me to understand why my > webapp was not loading. > > I believe it could mislead others and its why I wanted to suggest som