Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Rich Caldwell
Oops. Never mind about using 'favor sharps' as a workaround. It happens the other way around with flats as well. I have to decide now whether to chuck the time I spent setting up this huge score and start over in 2k6 or stick with it and drag notes or apply the plug-in at the end (and put

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Rich Caldwell
I never really thought of how Finale thinks of the notes. I just know that I more often work in atonal work, where I'd be clicking and dragging notes all over the place if that were the only solution. I prefer to keep my hands on the keyboards - a lot quicker. For now, I'll enter the note

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Chuck Israels
I can confirm that there is some strange behavior with accidentals in 2k7; I just haven't been able to pin it down. When I encounter some of these things, I'm often not sure if Finale is at fault, or I am, so I can be slow to catch them. As you can see, if you've been following the 2007 s

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Éric Dussault
to be more precise, here is the link:http://forum.makemusic.com/default.aspx?f=6&m=164013&g=164117#m164117Le 06-09-23 à 11:16, Éric Dussault a écrit :It has been mentionned on MM's Forum last week in a post by Peter West I believe.Éric Dussault___ Finale

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the exact situation which I've just re-created in a new file: Horn in F part, key of F major, hence key sig of no sharps or flats. In speedy enter an F bottom space and press "s" to sharpen it - result - F double sharp. As far as I can see this only happens

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Éric Dussault
It has been mentionned on MM's Forum last week in a post by Peter West I believe.Éric DussaultLe 06-09-23 à 09:49, Rich Caldwell a écrit :If this is indeed a bug, I'm surprised no one had mentioned it here or on MM's boards yet.  After entering notes for only 5 minutes in 2k7, it stopped me dead in

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
I can't force the natural on the D -- it appears by default and when I hit the * key the natural disappears. With the natural showing, if the first note is changed to C# by whatever method, the natural disappears, as it should. Interestingly enough, though, with that enharmonic flip in place,

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
f dhbailey Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:58 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up? Mike Cholewa wrote: I have experienced this behavior in WinFin2k7 too. It only concerns Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry there's no problem. I guess it's a bug.

RE: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread Williams, Jim
I'll verify. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 23-Sep-06 10:19 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp? Here's the exact situation which I've just re-created in a new fi

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Furthermore, pressing "f" to flatten the f natural to an f flat merely inserts a natural sign as though the programme believes it to be an f sharp.   This sounds like something to do with the transposition.  I'll experiment a bit more, gotto go to a gig now.   Cheers,   Lawrence _

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Here's the exact situation which I've just re-created in a new file:   Horn in F part, key of F major, hence key sig of no sharps or flats.   In speedy enter an F bottom space and press "s" to sharpen it - result - F double sharp.   As far as I can see this only happens on F.   Cheers,   Lawren

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Rich Caldwell
I just noticed something else. This "feature" only occurs when I've enharmonically switched the previous note. If I'm entering without a MIDI keyboard, I enter 'C' then sharp it - so it's not enharmonically flipping. If 'favor sharps' is on, then it won't either. Do this: Enter 'Db-D',

RE: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Mike Cholewa
c flip and it wasn't possible in speedy. I changed to Simple and it worked there. Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of dhbailey > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:58 PM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: Re:

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
Rich Caldwell wrote: Perhaps I've gone temporarily insane (well, more insane than usual)... I try this in Speedy Entry with a MIDI keyboard: Enter C - C# - D I then try to force a natural on the D with '*'. Nothing happens. I can put one in parentheses, but not by itself. This doesn't happ

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
Mike Cholewa wrote: I have experienced this behavior in WinFin2k7 too. It only concerns Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry there's no problem. I guess it's a bug. Mike Cholewa WinFin2k7 Maybe I'm not understanding the problem, but I just tried it in winfin2007, default document, single staff, ent

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a similar problem in winfin2006 - in speedy I press "S" to sharpen a note. This works on all notes except f where it changes the note to f double sharp. Not to question the obvious, but what key are you in when this occurs? I just tried it in the key of

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Christopher Smith
This happens to me consistently in FinMac 2007, too, starting from a new document key signature C. Even weirder, when I hit the 9 to shift enharmonics, the D changes to an E with no double-flat, as it is supposed to! Definitely a bug, and definitely one that MakeMusic needs to know about

RE: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-23 Thread Mike Cholewa
ll > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:11 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up? > > Perhaps I've gone temporarily insane (well, more insane than usual)... > > I try this in Speedy Entry with a MIDI keyboard: > > Enter C - C# - D >

Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a similar problem in winfin2006 - in speedy I press "S" to sharpen a note. This works on all notes except f where it changes the note to f double sharp. I didn't have this problem in fin02. My first thought is to wonder if you are working in a "sharp" key,

[Finale] Accidentals - what's up with f sharp?

2006-09-23 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I've found a similar problem in winfin2006 - in speedy I press "S" to sharpen a note.  This works on all notes except f where it changes the note to f double sharp.    I didn't have this problem in fin02.   Is this once again something that I have neglected to setup somewhere?   Cheers,   La

[Finale] Accidentals - what's up?

2006-09-22 Thread Rich Caldwell
Perhaps I've gone temporarily insane (well, more insane than usual)... I try this in Speedy Entry with a MIDI keyboard: Enter C - C# - D I then try to force a natural on the D with '*'. Nothing happens. I can put one in parentheses, but not by itself. This doesn't happen to all notes tho