On Sun, 12 Jun 2011, Michael Sgier wrote:
> http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/cards_and_casino/flight-simulation_xcuh.html
>
> how long should we tolerate such...
Tolerate? Pfft. Just flag it as a scam and move on.
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:36:20 +1000, George wrote in message
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> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:26:05 +0200, ThorstenB wrote in message
> > <4df4943d.3030...@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On 12.06.2011 11:58, Michael Sgier wrote:
> >> > http://www.androidzo
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:26:05 +0200, ThorstenB wrote in message
> <4df4943d.3030...@gmail.com>:
>
>> On 12.06.2011 11:58, Michael Sgier wrote:
>> > http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/cards_and_casino/flight-simulation_xcuh.html
>> >
>> >
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 12:26:05 +0200, ThorstenB wrote in message
<4df4943d.3030...@gmail.com>:
> On 12.06.2011 11:58, Michael Sgier wrote:
> > http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/cards_and_casino/flight-simulation_xcuh.html
> >
> > how long should we tolerate such...
>
> We've had that before
On 12.06.2011 11:58, Michael Sgier wrote:
> http://www.androidzoom.com/android_games/cards_and_casino/flight-simulation_xcuh.html
>
> how long should we tolerate such...
We've had that before. This 15KB "app" doesn't even contain a
FlightSimulator. And it doesn't do anything (so I doubt it contai
bject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] "Pro Flight Simulator"
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On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:06:29 +0200, Oliver Fels
wrote:
> xsaint wrote:
>
>> We should also warn ppl that Flightgear being repackaged and sold by
some
>> individuals and we encourage them to download the sim from Flightgear
>> instead of buying those craps
>
> Note that by discouraging repack
xsaint wrote:
> We should also warn ppl that Flightgear being repackaged and sold by some
> individuals and we encourage them to download the sim from Flightgear
> instead of buying those craps
Note that by discouraging repackaging in general you will create a situation
in which we shoot our
Hi,
Flightgear Mac OS X site also has a note. See
http://macflightgear.sf.net/home/downloads
By the way, one thing I really hate about these products is that they "skip"
supporting users. As a result, more than 30 users yelled at me like:
"hey, I got your product but I can't launch it success
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:59:23 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message
:
> Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > ..our current "GPL" practice [...]
>
> Arnt, for what stupid reason are you using the terms "we" and "our" ?
> Except from annoying the developer's mailing list with unwanted
> outpourings you have no
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..our current "GPL" practice [...]
Arnt, for what stupid reason are you using the terms "we" and "our" ?
Except from annoying the developer's mailing list with unwanted
outpourings you have not been involved in the FlightGear project at
all, at least not for the last twelve
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:47:52 +0200, Stefan wrote in message
<201106081247.52326.n...@detonation.org>:
> On Wednesday 08 June 2011 12:27:30 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:06:48 +0300 (EEST), thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi
> > wrote in message
> >
> > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't s
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, David Van Mosselbeen wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just download the source code of that magic scam at
> http://proflightsimulator.com/source/Source-Files.7z
This was discussed ad naseum quite some time ago on this
list and on the forums.
Those unfamiliar are welcome to
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:05:07 -0700 (PDT), Gene Buckle
wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
>>
>> .."protection under the GPL", depends on a willingness on the
>> part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights
>> under copyright law to defend or enforce their copyrigh
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Stefan Seifert wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 June 2011 12:27:30 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:06:48 +0300 (EEST), thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote
>> in message
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't see how willingness to exercise
>>> copyright under GPL would requi
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> .."protection under the GPL", depends on a willingness on the
> part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights
> under copyright law to defend or enforce their copyrights.
>
Arnt, while the PFS guys are doing morally despicable things, th
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Robert wrote:
> Look what I have found on Dailymotion:
>
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgg2j5_next-generation-flight-simulator-2011-2012-demo_videogames
> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4vzn_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-1_videogames
> http://www.dailymotion.com/vid
> Oliver wrote:
>
> This guy is allready calling its product "Microsoft Flight Simulator
> 2011", so he doesn't even care about the trademarks of Microsoft
> products or its company name.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SX56YCTc5M
Now that video IS a copyright violation. It is a copy of Oscar's
Am Mittwoch, den 08.06.2011, 08:19 +0200 schrieb Stefan Seifert:
> Would you really want to restrict the very freedoms that made FlightGear such
> a successful project, just to have some legal means against some shady people
> who try to fool the uninformed into paying some money for FG? Chances
On Wednesday 08 June 2011 12:27:30 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:06:48 +0300 (EEST), thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote
> in message
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't see how willingness to exercise
> > copyright under GPL would require moving to a different license.
>
> ..you as
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:13:42 +0200, HB-GRAL wrote in message
<4def4b56.1080...@sablonier.ch>:
> Am 08.06.11 07:43, schrieb Michael Sgier:
> > why not simply change the fgfs licence once and for all? Android is
> > not all GPL anymore...we could do the very same.-
> >
>
> Why not throwing all the
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 12:06:48 +0300 (EEST), thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote
in message
<54776.130.234.144.77.1307524008.squir...@webmail3.cc.jyu.fi>:
> > .."protection under the GPL", depends on a willingness on the
> > part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights
> > under copyright
Am 08.06.11 07:43, schrieb Michael Sgier:
> why not simply change the fgfs licence once and for all? Android is not all
> GPL anymore...we could do the very same.-
>
Why not throwing all the sources to trash and tell people the project
does not exist anymore ? :-)
No licence change has to be p
> .."protection under the GPL", depends on a willingness on the
> part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights
> under copyright law to defend or enforce their copyrights.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't see how willingness to exercise
copyright under GPL would require movin
Hi,
why make it all so complicated? FGFS is GNU GPL (2/3?). Report that scam
to the FSF (Free Software Foundation). Maybe you will get nothing better
back than just to report that video to youtube (show prove to youtube,
and they must listen) but at least their scamming activity becomes more
popul
.."protection under the GPL", depends on a willingness on the
part of the copyright owners to actually exercise their rights
under copyright law to defend or enforce their copyrights.
..if there is no such willingness in any FlightGear author,
there is no legal protection of FlightGear, and
On Wednesday 08 June 2011 07:43:12 Michael Sgier wrote:
> why not simply change the fgfs licence once and for all? Android is not all
> GPL anymore...we could do the very same.-
Would you really want to restrict the very freedoms that made FlightGear such
a successful project, just to have some l
why not simply change the fgfs licence once and for all? Android is not all GPL
anymore...we could do the very same.-
--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Gene Buckle wrote:
From: Gene Buckle
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] "Pro Flight Simulator"
To: "FlightGear developers discussions"
D
Look what I have found on Dailymotion:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgg2j5_next-generation-flight-simulator-2011-2012-demo_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4vzn_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-1_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh4w27_pro-flight-simulator-2011-review-2
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:20:32 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message
> :
>
>> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>
>
> ..at the bottom of youtube pages, you find the "Copyright" link.
> Follow that, and we find in the "Content Owner" section, a
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:20:32 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message
:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> >>>
> >>> ..at the bottom of youtube pages, you find the "Copyright" link.
> >>> Follow that, and we find in the "Content Owner" section, a new
> >>> link to "Copyright Infringement Not
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>>
>>> ..at the bottom of youtube pages, you find the "Copyright" link.
>>> Follow that, and we find in the "Content Owner" section, a new
>>> link to "Copyright Infringement Notification" with a nice form
>>> to fill out. ;o)
>>
>> ...and unless you're the
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 12:45:20 -0700 (PDT), Gene wrote in message
:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:53:54 +0200, Gijs wrote in message
> > :
> >
> >>
> >> Hi Tobias,
> >>
> >>> while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this suspiceous video:
> >>> http://www.
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:53:54 +0200, Gijs wrote in message
> :
>
>>
>> Hi Tobias,
>>
>>> while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this suspiceous video:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embedded
>>> I recognised the Chat Box i
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 16:53:54 +0200, Gijs wrote in message
:
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
> > while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this suspiceous video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embedded
> > I recognised the Chat Box in FlightGear-GUI-Style. Following the
> > lin
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, xsaint wrote:
> The only way we can stop or reduce is to educate the folks in the internet.
> Doing up various 1 minute video, very similar to the video as shown with
> same plane and then uploading with the same keywords can help. In our
> video, we should mention Flightgear i
The only way we can stop or reduce is to educate the folks in the internet.
Doing up various 1 minute video, very similar to the video as shown with
same plane and then uploading with the same keywords can help. In our
video, we should mention Flightgear is 100% opensource and 100% FREE. We
shou
On 6/7/2011 9:53 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Tobias Markus wrote:
>
>> Dear FlightGear Developers,while a video trip through "YouTube", I
>> saw this
>> suspiceous video:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embeddedI
>> recognised the Chat Box in FlightGea
Hi Tobias,
> while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this suspiceous video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embedded
> I recognised the Chat Box in FlightGear-GUI-Style. Following the link, they
> sell that for 97$. (Here)
we are aware of those rebranded FlightG
On Tue, 7 Jun 2011, Tobias Markus wrote:
Dear FlightGear Developers,while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this
suspiceous video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embeddedI
recognised the Chat Box in FlightGear-GUI-Style. Following the link, they
sell that for 97$.
Dear FlightGear Developers,while a video trip through "YouTube", I saw this suspiceous video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3x6Mc3DyuU&feature=player_embeddedI recognised the Chat Box in FlightGear-GUI-Style. Following the link, they sell that for 97$. (Here)I hope I could help youTobias Markus
Hello,
Hopefully this gets through, I'm not subscribed on the Devel (or any)
fg list. And sorry for breaking threading, I read this this post from
the sf ml archive page.
I received an ad for %&$ Flight Simulator (
http://www.%&$flightsimulator.com/ (1)) and looked at it and found it
eerily fami
> Erik wrote:
>
> Looking at their so called todo list
...which is not much more than a sum-up of FlightGear features (like the VATSIM
support that
FlightGear has these days).
Oh, to all: please do not provide direct links to these people's websites.
Every single hit increases
their pagerank
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:00:02 +, Chris wrote in message
<1295020802.2363.13.camel@chris-desktop>:
> I love the contradictory passages:
> - ProFlightSimulator is an open source stand alone Flight Simulator.
> - Customer support is only an email away
> (Open source products do not offer any su
I love the contradictory passages:
- ProFlightSimulator is an open source stand alone Flight Simulator.
- Customer support is only an email away
(Open source products do not offer any support)
They say open source projects don’t offer support (despite FlightGear
offering community support throu
I have no time for detailed legalities of the message but one should
note regarding GPL (at least v3 and probably v2, maybe it is time for fg
to go v3?)
1) It is legal to fork a GPL project at any time if some conditions are
met. In simple terms the forked project must provide their modificatio
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 02:08 -0800, Chris Wilkinson wrote:
> http://www.proflightsimulator.com/fg-help.htm
>
> Any comments into the accuracy of this statement?
It started out fine with a few minor nitpicks until I reached:
"To say it is simply FlightGear would be inaccurate and illegal."
Ehm? Wh
Think about it. ;)
> http://www.proflightsimulator.com/fg-help.htm
>
> Any comments into the accuracy of this statement?
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE.
>
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