Does not CEEOPTS etc. still override? A good thing if you want it; a bad thing
if you don't.
Charles
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Yes. Very much like what I do. But it is the framework of the problem, not
the solution. Here is the problem:
I want to compile the bulk of my modules by default ARCH(9) (changeable from
time to time) but two of them ARCH(5). Should be simple enough, right? (Why?
See related thread. I want to deal
Isn't this a bit of a no-brainer just using JCL?
//CPROCPROC M=,PARMS=
//COMPILE EXEC PGM=CCNDRVR,REGION=0M,
//PARM=('EXPORTALL OPTF LOC(EN_US.IBM-037) &PARMS')
//SYSMSGS DD DUMMY
//USERLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DOC.USER.H
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=COM110.WDOC.H
// DD DISP=SHR,DS
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I'd use a generic suffix rule for the preponderance of the sources and a
specific
rule naming the few exceptions
-- gil
That would be the right way for Charles Mills to go if he built with make/
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:48:05 -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
>...
>###
># Compilation rules
>###
>
>CC = c89
>LD = ld
>
>$(OBJDIR1)/%.o : $(SRCDIR1)/%.cpp
> $(CC) $(INC_PATH_FLAGS) $(CFLAGS1) -c $< -o $@
>
>$(OBJDIR2)/%.o : $(S
If it's that sensitive then linking in your own options module would be a good
idea.
IMO
Hank
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Charles:
Absolutely correct, I am going to write it and then share ,,if you guys
want me to...
Regards,
Scott
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
> I think Scott is the vendor and is worried about the customer doing a
> PARM='some LE option/...' or a //CEEOPTS DD and then cal
Hank:
Much appreciated , exactly what I needed.
Regards,
Scott
IDMworks
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Hank Oerlemans wrote:
> If you can assume R12 point to the CAA then:
>
> USING CEECAA,12
> USING CEEEDB,11
> USING CEEOCB,10
> L 11,CEECAAEDB
> L 10,CEEEDBOPTCB
> CEECAA
> CEEEDB
>
G. Please read the thread. I keep explaining the same points.
Charles
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Try PARM="ARCH(5),OPTF"
> On 27 Nov 2015, at 2:56 am, Charles Mills wrote:
>
> ARCH(9) / ARCH(5)
>
> Charles
>
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If you can assume R12 point to the CAA then:
USING CEECAA,12
USING CEEEDB,11
USING CEEOCB,10
L 11,CEECAAEDB
L 10,CEEEDBOPTCB
CEECAA
CEEEDB
CEEOCB
then use the following information to parse
https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.
I think Scott is the vendor and is worried about the customer doing a
PARM='some LE option/...' or a //CEEOPTS DD and then calling their support when
the STC does not perform as desired. Or at least confusing their support desk
because things are not exactly as the vendor expects.
I don't know
1. Yeah, a separate folder solves this problem while complicating other chores
issues or requirements or habits or whatever. I suspect it is the only
solution. Grrr.
2. You can't do it with a #pragma! #pragma options only supports C and this is
C++. Go figure.
Make may be goodness for a th
The parms are controlled via (depending on the z/OS Level) a CEEPRMxx member in
Parmlib or
CEEOPT module in the code. Generally - one size fits all. In CEEPRMxx are
parms for CICS, Other, and I am not sure if there is another delineation or not.
So depending on the environment - I would start
>>> Thanks to some help offline, I was pointed to RDEFINE TSOAUTH MOUNT
UACC(NONE). This allowed me to enter "mount -qv /". Thanks Steve.
>> I'm baffled. I've never before detected a connection between TSOAUTH in
general, and TSOAUTH MOUNT especially and any z/OS UNIX authority.
> Do you have
I'm puzzled: Why do you think those dispatching priorities are
inconsistent with the WLM goals (and your technical business goals)?
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.c
All,
I have a new to verify the correct LE runoption are in effect prior to our
STCs initialization.
I need to check things like:
1.ALL31
2. HEAP
3. STACK
I would like to do this pro grammatically. Can i do this ?
If I can , can some point me the direction of a manual which mentions it ?
Do you have UID(0) on your USERID?
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>Thanks to some help offline,
Charles Mills wrote:
For your specific "omit the problem file from the JCL" suggestion there are no
files in the JCL. //SYSIN specifies a UNIX folder and the compiler grabs all of the .C or
.c files.
Okay. Two Ideas and one "But Anyway"
1. Move the problem file out of the folder, compile sepa
True, RMF is SYSSTC. Clearly there's more faith and confidence here.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:39 PM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO <
4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br> wrote:
> You were talking about your monitors, that were using an importance 1 SC
> instead of SYSSTC. And what about RMF ? RMF must be
Right. Exactly. This is not the only requirement. The problem space is not
"demonstrate how one might ..."
I have other build issues or requirements or gotchas or whatever (habits?) that
also come into consideration. I have multiple processes in place. And my hope
had been that this was not a "
ARCH(9) / ARCH(5)
Charles
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Tony Harminc wrote:
For some value of "just"...
Ha! Aint' that the truth in Big Iron World! I spent two weeks learning how to get a second virtual ethernet link working
in z/VM.
Simple in Unix:
1. Comment out file name from list in Makefile
2. Run the compile target without running the link
You were talking about your monitors, that were using an importance 1 SC
instead of SYSSTC. And what about RMF ? RMF must be SYSSTC too.
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
BANCO BRADESCO S.A.
4250 / DPCD Engenharia de Software
Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Tel: +55 1
On 26 November 2015 at 13:28, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
> Okay, you're right. Can you just omit the problem file from the JCL, compile
> it separately, put it in the right dataset of output objects,
> and then run the JCL and link it with the others?
For some value of "just"...
Tony H.
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Charles Mills wrote:
By "compiler options" I mean what the compiler documentation calls "compiler
options." See Chapter 4 of the User's Guide for a description of compiler
options.
The problem is that there is apparently no way to specify ARCH(9) at a
"global/default" sort of level and then over
Jack J. Woehr wrote:
If you didn't previously post in detail,
Ok, what option is being set by the JCL and what do you want to do instead on
one file?
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By "compiler options" I mean what the compiler documentation calls "compiler
options." See Chapter 4 of the User's Guide for a description of compiler
options.
The problem is that there is apparently no way to specify ARCH(9) at a
"global/default" sort of level and then override it at a particular
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
Will using this use of ifndef solve the issue that if a compiler option is set at launch time due to being coded in
the JCL or via a DD it can/will override the pragma supplied setting?
There are so many "things" in C/C++ compilation I have to look back in this thre
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
An extreme example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%42%72%61%69%6e%66%75%63%6b
(I don't use it; just stumbled on and amused by.)
A classic!
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esst...@juno.com wrote:
Many institutions have been burned on this "plug and Play: mentality. They do
not look at inhoues I.T. personal as ASSESETS.
It's true in IT all over. A company I consult to has gotten rather large being the plug-in for big biz companies in the
Linux/Windows hosted cloud
Exactly. Thank you. Yes, and COBOL does it more or less right also.
It's even worse than what I wrote. I am about convinced I cannot get there from
here.
Problem: I want to compile the bulk of my modules by default ARCH(9)
(changeable from time to time) but two of them ARCH(5). Should be simple
On 26 November 2015 at 09:47, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
> Peter Relson wrote:
>>Further, it [Transactional Execution] is not available on any z/OS release if
>>z/OS is running under VM.
>
> Very interesting. Are there other functions also absent when z/OS is running
> as a guest under z/VM?
La
On 25 November 2015 at 14:24, Charles Mills wrote:
> The C/C++ compiler lets you set options globally with PARM= or DD:OPTFILE
> (or equivalently on a UNIX command line for those who like that sort of
> thing). You can also specify most options *first thing* in a source module
> with #pragma OPTIO
Thank you all for your response and advise. My only reservation is that
SYSVIEW, at times, tends to be heavy-footed and causes the system to
'pause'. This is only because of the data we capture at periodic intervals.
Anyway, that's for me to investigate further and fix.
Thanks, again,
On Thu, No
On 26 November 2015 at 06:51, John McKown wrote:
>
> The company wants to only be an insurance company. They are outsourcing
> I.T. infrastructure. They have already outsourced the DBA function, new
> business data entry, and claims data entry. I'm not sure about the
> applications themselves. I d
1. So the use of make rather than JCL has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do
with the problem I posted, the subject of the thread??!! Gee, thanks.
I am not a C newbie. I am totally familiar with #ifdef (the relevant macro is
__MVS__ FWIW). My code is 95% bimodal (Windows/z/OS) and some is trimo
@Peter, thank you for the direct answer. Yes, I would consider an "ARCH
level," a "ZS- number" or a "marketing architecture number" such as 13 to be
a great answer to my need. As you move your emphasis more from assembler to
compiled languages an ARCH number rather than "op code bits" would be a go
Put monitors in SYSSTC.
This gives them the second highest DP in the system. You cannot completely
control the DP in Service Classes.
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Hello,
Generally it is recommended that "Monitors" should execute at SYSSTC.
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
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Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
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At 19:11 -0700 on 11/25/2015, Jack J. Woehr wrote about Re: Any
clever way to defeat the C compiler's options prece:
> 1. Will make in fact solve this specific problem? Can one readily
specify "global" compiler options for most modules and override them
for specific modules?
Not exactly. #p
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 22:31:48 -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
>
>I write programming languages that would make your hair stand on end. You can
>download FIJI for example
>http://fiji.sourceforge.net
>
An extreme example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%42%72%61%69%6e%66%75%63%6b
(I don't use it; j
First: DP's are variable and adjusted by WLM such that the task meets its
goals. Apparently WLM in convinced that it is doing its job well.
Second: you can move the critical monitors to Service Class SYSSTC.
I don't think the CPUCRITICAL attribute will help in your current setup,
because both SC'
Steve Beaver wrote
"And I cover all zOS Systems, ACF2, RACF, TSS, CICS, DB2, IMS/DB-DC, Cobol,
PL/I and Assembler."
I HATE THIS !
This is not a software specialist - it is a software Inventory
I have been known to respond to recruiters like this. And Yes the recruiters
take too much, it par
Hello All,
I need some assistance with being able to get a proper DP assigned to a set
of tasks. The problem is this;
I have 2 tasks, SYSVIEW and CICSLOGR and many CICS tasks. CICSLOGR is a
subtask attached by SYSVIEW.
In WLM, SYSVIEW is set to a service class of 'monitor' with an importance
of
john McKown wrote
​That's definitely true at the company I'm working for. Basically, the
company wants "ad hoc" workers for some project. But they don't seem to
have any concern about "maintenance" or having people on staff who
understand how things work. They want I.T. to be like the water/se
Peter Relson wrote:
>Further, it is not available on any z/OS release if z/OS is running under VM.
Very interesting. Are there other functions also absent when z/OS is running as
a guest under z/VM?
If so, where is that documented?
Many thanks for your excellent posts. I value them all!
TIA
I wanted to add that the list of facilities mentioned in one of the posts
>ARCH(10) (xC12) execution-hint facility, the load-and-trap
>facility, the miscellaneous-instruction-extension facility, and the
>transactional-execution facility.
leads to some interesting points.
The availability of an i
To answer your question directly: no there is no such way. Could there be,
in the future? Sure. If z/OS base control program were to provide it, it
might not be the compiler ARCH value but might be the machine generation
number (which happens to be +2 over the compiler ARCH level) -- e.g., z13
John McKown wrote:
>Unfortunately for me, I'm "in the hole". I'll be 63 when the company gets rid
>of me. Likely too old to get hired somewhere else, too young for Medicare.
Same here in Sunny South Africa. Generally retirement age is about 60 years,
but you can retire at 55 - 65 years depend
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:17 PM, John Mattson
wrote:
> My personal experience. I'm 67, laid off after 18 years May 2014,
> consultant with raise Sept 2014, Hired away with raise Aug 2015. Yes,
> there is work to be had. More so if you are able to travel and/or
> re-locate, but I am seeing more
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 5:37 PM, esst...@juno.com wrote:
> From my personal observation I don't see a shortage of Mainframe Skills.
> I do see companies not willing to pay for an experience skill set. In to
> days economic climate business are very reluctant to hire staff positions,
> they would
Just in case it could help anyone else, I also discovered that I could have
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Encode (CSNBECO and CSNEECO)
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