Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Virginia -- Can you clarify:Are we talking about a ornamental pond, or a > farm pond? Is there a synthetic liner in it, or a dirt/clay bottom? > Is there a pump which circulates or aerates the water in it?With t

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, I was speaking > about adding goldfish / koi to a larger, farm pond with dirt bottom > situation of half an acre or more -- which is what Virginia has (unless I'm > mistaken?). I don't know if you'd call it a farm pon

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
> For that reason, the four-foot goldfish pool I imagined became an > approximately 6x19 foot pond with two sections, a one-step waterfall > between and a bigger waterfall at one end. It works great with VERY > little maintenance.< So. . . with the waterfalls, I'm assuming there's a circula

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm. . . I don't know about "up there". . . Around here, we have fish farms > which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds. > I've never seen ads like that, but then, I've never looked before either

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by > barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: > > http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html > > http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html > > htt

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
> Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the > stock? > Clueless, V Hmmm. . . I don't know about "up there". . . Around here, we have fish farms which advertise in the local paper for stocking fish for farm ponds. Now, it's interesting to me that the previous owner

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread susan cooper
> > Gawd, doesn't it just make ya proud to be a > litigation, lawsuit-happy American?!?<< Absolutely!! As a matter of fact, I was going to call a lawyer about suing The Eagles for my hearing loss. It is a direct result of listening to their music too loud when I was a teenager unable to grasp wh

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Virginia, is it algae that is fouling the water?Some folks swear by barley straw as a natural alternative to chemicals: http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0012.html http://www.bestfish.com/barlybal.html http://www.exoticwaterscapes.com/barley-straw.php?gclid=CPrSydjMhZMCFQh7IgodUwe6BQ -- Ren

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
> You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends > of ours had a BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property. > They decided to introduce some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. . > . Well, it's not a beautiful swimming pond anymore. Th

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the > >>> stock? > >>> Clueless, V > > In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details. > > Karen Thomas, NC > > I don't t

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout. But, where would I buy the >>> stock? >>> Clueless, V In the USA, there are local Ag agents who can help you with those details. Karen Thomas, NC

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > One of the cute > phrases on that site was, "The solution to polution is dilution." In other > words, the > bigger the pond, the easier it is for the pond to find a natural balance. > For that > reason, the four-f

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Has anyone mentioned the whole "attractive nusiance" thing yet? Horses are > like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility > to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So,

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Also, even with liability releases, if a party can prove any level of >>> negligence >>> (like you knew in advance of the little hole that the horse tripped in and >>> caused the >>> rider to fall and break their arm), the liability release is null and void. >>> It's >>> amazing that any

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> > You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of >>> > ours had a >>> > BEAUTIFUL, springfed, swimming pond on their property. They decided to >>> > introduce >>> > some koi and ornamental goldfish into it. . . Well, it's not a beautiful >>> > swimming >>> > pond

Re: [IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Virginia, > What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds > with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that > way too. : ) > Maybe that's why the prior owners had trout

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts. I was thinking that very thing earlier this morning. I consider Janice a national treasure and feel that her quirky wit is quite wasted on yahoo mail lists. Wonder if we could figure a way to market Janice? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
I had a young neighbor girl riding with me a few years ago . . . (Oh geez, she's graduated from High School and is in college, so I guess it's been more than a few years!) She started when she was 12 until about 15.We had a GREAT time together, she riding Soley, me riding Eitill. I even

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Has anyone mentioned the whole "attractive nusiance" thing yet? Horses are like swimming pools in that respect: It's the horse owners responsibility to keep children out of pastures, paddocks, barns, etc. So, if a young child happens to crawl under your electrified, well-maintained fen

Re: [IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
There are times when > releases of liablity aren't binding, and that's particularly true when kids > are involved. > Kids can't sign a release for themselves, and if the release is written such > that it's > binding, it still only prohibits the parent who signed the release from suing > - it c

[IceHorses] Virginia's pond

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
Virginia, What about native fish species? Down here, people stock their ponds with bluegill, bass, and catfish.The kids and hubby could fish it that way too. : ) -- Renee M.

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
> We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks and > geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go to > Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond?< You could, but I wouldn't if the idea is to clean the pond. Friends of ours had a BEAUTIFU

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Renee Martin
>I think, what I will do, is have Kale . . .get on Nasi > and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the > geeses wading pool. SNORT!!! Oh Janice, I do so look forward to your posts. -- Renee M. in Michigan

Re: [IceHorses] Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Laree Shulman
> We have a pond on our new property--there's no fish. Sometimes ducks > and geese swim in it. The water is green and murky. Could I just go > to Walmart, buy some goldfish and put them in the pond? You would need to go to a good pet store or fish store but I think you can buy Koi that can wi

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 1 May 2008 08:39:07 -0500, you wrote: >name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...) It's a cabbage. I must admit I was thinking wow, what a strange name (but I thought maybe it had that spelling but some trendy pronunciation such as Karly and it was just me being un-cool t

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Thu, 01 May 2008 13:07:55 -, you wrote: >I will do a search and see if there is one I could use in the yard. You can get electric "wire" here which you wrap around the pipes, and which stays just hot enough to stop pipes and taps freezing - maybe a better option in the UK where we don't ge

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
So maybe you can guess why Icetolts hold no pizzazz for me. We deal with ice enough in the winter, no reason to put a show on for it. Ironically, that's probably also why ice tolts are so darned bizarre to me. I know that much of the North American continent has mild enough weat

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I think, what I will do, is have Kale (is it Cale? Why someone would name my nephew out of a type of lettuce is beyond me...) get on Nasi and have him ride him up the mobile home stairs, then dive into the geeses wading pool. His life might be endangered but what the heck, maybe it would win the

Re: [IceHorses] Bill Saddling Beaut

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 4/30/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What wonderful pictures. And what a nice horse. Yes, an incredible horse, and what was the story of when he got her? I think she was scheduled to be put down she was so mean... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

[IceHorses] Liablity... especially with children

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I just pulled out a book I've had for several years, called "Equine Liability." There's a whole section on the subject of liability involving children. I'd recommend that anyone who ever has kids over to ride, or who has kids in the neighborhood, read it. (I do allow kids to ride here some

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> But any adult would be too heavy I think. Not just me. Even a 120 pound >>> adult would >>> be too heavy at this point I think! If you think he's not physically mature enough to carry even a small adult now, then why be in a rush for a child to sit on him? He's only four today, and I

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/1/08, Susan Coombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You've never needed a tank heater? > > I have only had horses a year. you are pretty sharp for only having had horses a year! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] for the grace of god

2008-05-01 Thread Skise
Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > when my nasi was gelded it was found that his ingual ring was open and > gut fluid was in his scrotum and the vet said it could have led to > hernia where his intestines might have descended into the scrotum. And > he said that would be life threate

Re: [IceHorses] An Old Image from Old Tolt Magazine

2008-05-01 Thread Skise
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > I thought it was interesting that the noseband was labeled American. And > the word "tryk" was used pointing to the upper and lower portions of the > noseband. It's labeled American, because it seems to be originally a piece of tack used in wester

Re: [IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Jacki Edens
pictures! We need pictures! Jacki

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 01/05/2008, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how > >>> forgiving other > >>> locales are to live in. > > > We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks > sometimes, but > so far, never so b

[IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
> You've never needed a tank heater? I have only had horses a year. I didn't know I could get one. I use a kettle which doesn't seem very effective. The pipes to the paddock and stabe freeze too so I carry water from the house to buckets in the yard. It's only for a few days. I don't have main

Re: [IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Pictures, Janice, we want pictures. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
I would bet your grandson has been riding much of his life - certainly for many years? Gabriel started riding when he was about 13 I think, but we started with lessons right from the get go and the girl we chose is a dressage rider. Then he rode her ponies over fences for a couple of years

Re: [IceHorses] Liz in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
wow, has to be an awesome group... their suggested reading is Lee Z, Bill Dorrance and Eckhardt Tolle! Jeez would be a spiritual experience! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
I have ground driven him a few times but he is way better at it than me! But he doesnt pull and drag on me. He is a very lackadaisacal nonchalant guy. I think it will be ok. Trust me. I know my horses and if he is the least bit uncomfortable or even fretting I will just let Kale waller all ove

Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / TWH in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-in-belgium.html Walking for the most part. I'd say mostly flat walking, with some regular walking and maybe a couple of short parts that might have been running walk. I think I also saw one brief glimpse of step pace,

[IceHorses] OT a foundling

2008-05-01 Thread Janice McDonald
for two years now my geese lay huge piles of eggs and set them for months and never hatch anything. Then last nite my husband calls me at work and says I had six geese hatch out! He said all were doing great, but one "he is scrawney and stunted and the mom kicked him out of the nest so something

Re: [IceHorses] nasi's big day

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I agree with you completely and then I am going to confess that I just >>> asked my grandson to do the first few rides on Yrsa. The difference here is that Gabriel is 17 and a better, more balanced rider than I am and he probably weighs more. He's certainly more agile and athleti

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how >>> forgiving other >>> locales are to live in. We have one, but have never used it. We get ice on the top of our tanks sometimes, but so far, never so bad that we can stir it and break it. We have tanks that are prett

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Fish in Water Tank

2008-05-01 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/1 Susan Coombes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Where do you get a tank water heater? Is it battery or mains? > Sue Coombes You've never needed a tank heater? Wow.. Sometimes I forget how forgiving other locales are to live in. Ice and snow are no thrill... Oh..in answer to your question, you p

[IceHorses] Re: What Gait / TWH in Belgium

2008-05-01 Thread Susan Coombes
> > What gait for this Tennesee Walking Horse > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker- in-belgium.html > Mostly flat walk.Some ordinary walk in the middle and a little running walk near the end. Sue Coombes

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