em to reboot the list?
How can I know what I can and can't change in the future?
Thanks for any solutions.
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1. Where do I see the raw text of the received digest?
2. What is MTA?
I get what you're saying about received by Mailman, but the delay is later in
the delivery chain.
If not that, then Mailman outgoing queue is backlogged (which is what EMWD is
saying), due to a larger volume list on the shar
For years our digest has arrived at 9:00 am (PST).
In the last six months it has been erratic, arriving at different times during
the day.
Now, recently it is not arriving for a day, sometimes days. It's pretty useless
to our members to have messages from one or two days ago arrive late.
I've
Below is the bounce notice received. It looks like "Excessive or fatal bounces"
is the culprit. Our threshold is set to 5.0. Once the bounce threshold score is
reached it checks "nomail" next to the account and disables it. You know all
this of course.
However, it's not exactly logical that all
for us. We understood from Brian
that Microsoft routinely blocks their emails from receiving what appears to
them as bulk emails. We're a very small group.
But, maybe it's not that. Jan tells me she gets the notices that (icloud ad
mac) emails are blocked (bounced) when no one has sen
Routinely, email posts from Microsoft (.hotmail, .live, .me) and now more
recently Apple (.icloud and .mac) are being bounced en masse.
Is there something we or our host can do to stop this from happening?
Appreciate any advice.
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might be enough to nix the whole deal...
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e Fine Manual, but I see
no obvious way to change this behaviour.
"RTFM" with a pointer to the particular thing to read is fine!
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, but
can't seem to puzzle this out.
Thanks in advance for any advice offered!
What could be more superstitious than the idea that money brings forth
food? -- Wendell Berry
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Thanks for your suggestions and help!
> From: Larry Stone
>
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>
>> First, the bad news: Mac OS X 10.6.8. Yea, I've read Mark's dire warning.
>> Please don't shoot me. I'm hoping this is a generi
empty.
The file "/var/mailman/data/aliases" has all my lists in it.
The corresponding ".db" files for those two have the same timestamp as their
corresponding text files.
Here is an example of what is in the "aliases" file:
# STANZA START: be
> From: Mark Sapiro
>
> On 05/14/2014 04:26 PM, Jan Steinman wrote:
>> I'm using the Mailman and postfix that came bundled with MacOS X 10.6 (Snow
>> Leopard) on a Mac Mini Server.
>
> See the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/OIDD>. Yes, I know you pro
de?
Thanks in advance for any advice offered!
No, Plaintiffs to not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow
or a dairy herd... No, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume
the milk from their own cow... No, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right
ut, but if they come
from someplace "civilized," I may let their abuse address know. (Found via
"whois 1.2.3.4", for example.)
Half a man's wisdom goes with his courage. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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t wrong. So then
let's aggree that the optimal way would be to make this switchable.
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er.
And thus replace the old sorting order:
"alphabetical" doesn't have any practical advantage (= someone missing the way
it worked yet) in my eyes.
Use case "time-sorted" e.g.: find this one mail the user just sent a minu
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ooking forward to the final thing and I think I just might give the beta
a try this summer on a staging machine...
And thank you for putting your free time into MM! You guys are great!
Best regards,
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great work of code - but still there's so much more
this could be and let's face it: mailing lists aren't currently gaining ground
as the web develops. I believe many people could have great use for a modern
state of the art mailing engine w
is light) be due to a possible re-installation or user
clicking around in outlook stupidly.
That should solve my problem, thanks very much for your help and have a great
weekend.
Jan
P.S.:
>> Yes, msg_footer can be empty and Mailman won't add anything.
> N.B. IIRC, it has
ly things stop working when mailman adds the delimiter consisting the
msg_footer.
Does anyone have an idea on what to do?
Can I perhaps prevent mailman adding a footer if I leave "msg_footer" empty?
Is it still added (empty) or not at all?
Thanks for your help and thought
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 06:13
An: Jan Krohn
Cc: mailman-users@python.org
Betreff: Re: [Mailman-Users] 403 error after prune_arch
On 05/13/2013 10:07 AM, Jan Krohn wrote:
>> I'm still new to
.
I've already checked ownership of the public folders, and confirmed it's
mailman:mailman as it should be (this was a problem before from migrated
lists).
Any other idea what to look into?
Thanks and best wishes,
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Thanks for the replies so far. The host has reset the permissions. No digest
was sent out today, which is a bit strange. The next run will show if
everything's fine now...
Jan
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Mark Sapiro [mailto:m...@msapiro.net]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Dezember 20
ng list address itself to
the list! :)
I'm on shared hosting, so I haven't got full access to all files. But maybe
someone here knows how to get it right. If it helps, my lists are accessible
here: http://heidoc.net/mailman/listinfo
Tha
Hello,
I created a mailing list via the mailman web interface. The address fir
it is li...@domain.org. Is it possible to create an alias for this
address so that li...@domain.org represents the same list as
li...@domain.org?
best regards,
Jan
On 22 Jun 12, at 06:47, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Jan Steinman wrote:
>>
>> /etc/postfix/main.cf refers to two mailman files:
>> virtual_alias_maps =
>> hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,hash:/var/mailman/data/virtual-mailman,hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_users
>> al
x27;m fairly competent and happy to be
pointed in the right direction.
Thanks!
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about its width and depth. -- H. L. Mencken
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sure enough the man had no more pain. A few months later, he walked into a
store and saw his favorite kind of jeans on sale. He was ready to buy a few
pair when the salesman remarked "Those are some good looking jeans. But the way
they are built will give you a severe pain in the balls. I do
since mail works normally and mail.app send its pictures via email to
other people, it seems to be a small problem with the parsing of an
iphone mail.
Is there anything known about that or a workaround? i googled und used
your manuals but haven't found anything.
best r
into
food. Without petroleum we will not be able to feed the global
population. -- Robert L. Hickerson
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Dear MailMan,
Before I knew that my name would be published on the web, I wrote about six
messages on a genealogy list. I need to have them removed due to safety
concerns. The list administrator has not been able to do this. May I please
ask you for your help?
Thank you,
Jan Peters
From: Mark Sapiro
Jan Steinman wrote:
Mark, any chance of this getting in the regular distribution, perhaps
controlled by a config switch?
I'll put it in 2.2.
Wow, thanks!
The Earth isn't a pizza. You can't dial up and have one
delivered! -- Alf
Jan
d haven't had
the time to track it down.
Mark, any chance of this getting in the regular distribution, perhaps
controlled by a config switch?
You don't build a new world by pouring yourself into the broken
molds of the old one.
ution."
"Keep saying that, and we'll need a lawyer, assuming they let us
have one."
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From: Barry Warsaw
On Jan 13, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Jan Steinman wrote:
From: suleiman Espear
Can you tell me your experience with the problem of having two
lists with the same name under different virtual domains.
Uhm, wait patiently for Mailman 3.0?
Why not download and play with the
to baby-sit your kids. -- Robert
X. Cringely
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From: Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 02:52:21PM -0800, Jan Steinman wrote:
No, it is based upon the idea that a system could be implemented
whereby
it would be impossible to avoid the payment.
This idiotic idea... the wishful thinking of clueless newbies... one
of the very
On 3 Jan 09, at 18:23, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Mark Sapiro wrote:
That's not an apt analogy. The issue here is not whether a system can
be developed that would require mail delivery to be paid for. The
See: http://www.hashcash.org/
So it seems one way of guarant
From: Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:15:43AM -0800, Jan Steinman wrote:
I would willingly pay a hundredth of a cent (or so) per email sent
if it
would reduce spam to near-zero.
This is a thoroughly-discredited, utterly broken idea... based on
the ludicrous
notion that abusers
On 23 Dec 08, at 10:45, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Jan Steinman writes:
I would willingly pay a hundredth of a cent (or so) per email sent if
it would reduce spam to near-zero.
Only problem is, you'll have to go to the bank and fill out the
electronic funds transfer form for each $.
to my customers.
Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for
the human race. - H.G. Wells
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I'd start slamming the list with thousands of messages (yea, I know,
unkind to the hapless subscribers) in the hope that all the bounces
and admin backscatter will spur the new domain owner into action.
Before everyone starts jumping all
the new domain owner into action.
Securely there being a gradation which is done the picture whose
also noise is little, seeing, is feeling difference potato. -- from a
Google translation of a Japanese camera review
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er way of
accomplishing this goal?
Thanks for any advice offered!
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself -- and you
are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard Feynman
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admonitory finger and frowned. "On the land, I tell you." -- Aldus
Huxley, from "Point Counter Point," published 1928
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method="post" style="display:inline"> cellpadding="4"> align="center">Subscribe align="left">Name: size="10" value=""> Email Address:
value="Subscribe!">
The
kers" on this list who are
"hosting" in the broadest sense of the word.
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klisting/pattern matching capability,
to
automatically accept subscriptions from within the company and deny
from
outside?
Sounds like a firewall issue. Run Mailman on a separate port, and
block it outside the firewall.
A virus has marked this email as being virus-free!
J
do contain
links to the attachments, but MIME digests contain the attachments in
the digest.
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the poplace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series
of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. -- HL Mencken
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s rejecting petroleum
dependence in all possible ways. -- Jan Lundberg
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On 19 Jun 08, at 12:02, Steve Burling wrote:
--On June 19, 2008 11:46:44 AM -0700 Jan Steinman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In fact, I'd venture to guess that this email, which is sent to the
list
and to Mark and I on the Cc: will show up wrapped on the list, and
not
wrapped
; '80's. I'm staring at Mark's
email on my 1920-pixel screen, with about 9/10th of the screen showing
blank white.
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isable word-wrapping altogether?
Thanks!
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et what has been promised more likely to be
-- or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any
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Thanks for that info, Mark.
Any idea of how close (or far away) the 3.0 release is?
Jan C.
- Original Message
From: Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:17:48 PM
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kind in Mailman.
Any idea for other ways to structure the system?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Mark Sapiro schrieb:
> Jan Kohnert wrote:
>>
>>So I found out, I have to encode the german mailman.po file in UTF-8 and
>>then rebuild the *.mo out of it. Now it works, so I can provide this
>>version (to large for this l
the answer? I am unable to locate the "enable
personalization to true" Thanks for your help.
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this happens? I've been googling about this for
hours and I just can't find anything "proper" on the topic.
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please?
i've been googling half the day ... lol
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as it is...
> Thanks for the help.
HTH,
> Greg Burnett
Best regards Jan
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on't give more information, I'm sure nobody can help you...
> TIA
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Dan Phillips schrieb:
> On Sep 8, 2005, at 8:29 AM, Jan Kohnert wrote:
> > In the html-pages of the archive there is still the html-meta tag:
> >
>
> Did you regenerate the archives? They are static html created at he
> time a message is added, so for a change in charac
Mark Sapiro schrieb:
> Jan Kohnert wrote:
> >Is there a parameter to tell pipermail to use utf8 encoding for the web
> >archive? Or at least the encoding of the mail itself (although this would
> >obviously be more difficult to do...)?
>
> There is an LC_DESCRIPTIONS d
at least the encoding of the mail itself (although this would
obviously be more difficult to do...)?
TIA,
Best regards Jan
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ion --with-mail-gid.
This message says it all. Why not adding group mailman to your system? Be sure
gid is set to the gid of your mailman installation.
> Thank you for your suggestions.
HTH,
> Thankfully,
> Roy
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twice by amavis...
So my question:
Is it possible to tell mailman to deliver to the postfix instance, which
delivers finally? Something like adding the port of my final delivery
instance to the mailhost variable (mail.relay.tld:Port instead of
mail.relay.tld)?
TIA
Best regards Jan
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Just figured out myself.
On Gentoo, there is more than one alias_maps entry in postfixs main.cf, so
only the last one was taken and Mailmans alias file was never used...
Sorry for the inconvenience...
But good to know, if someone struggles into similar problems.
Best regards Jan
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it, I get:
May 28 23:51:59 server postfix/smtpd[10699]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
localhost[127.0.0.1]: 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address
rejected: User unknown in local recipient table;
from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> proto=ESMTP
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It seems that noone knows about this. Where should I take the problem if
this list can't answer it?
I have been able to locate several other reports of the same problem -
but never a solution.
regards,
Jan
Jan Eri wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that Mailmans news-gateway sometimes changes
Has anyone else noticed that Mailmans news-gateway sometimes changes the
message-id when sending to nntp?
As an example, this is from a message sent to the maillist:
From - Fri Jan 14 14:34:02 2005
X-Account-Key: account3
X-UIDL: 1105709609.H417769P12176.lindis.dis-norge.no
X-Mozilla-Status
Is there a way to control which password a user get when adding users to
a list with add_member?
We would like to give them the same password they use to access other
parts of our system.
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I'm embarassed, found it after I sent my question. Thanks anyway Tim!
regards,
Jan
Speedy Gonzalis wrote:
Go to your lists admin page.
At the bottom there is an option that says "Should messages from this mailing list
include the RFC 2369 (i.e. List-*) headers?"
Select "No&quo
possible. But I hope you will allow me asking the question anyway.
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ython.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=all> , but I have not been
able to find anything relevant about this.
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Hello Mark!
> >We are providing over 200 lists and have no problems at all.
> >But this customers is sure, that this is a mailman-bug. I need support to
> >argumentate. Is here anybody who is working with M$-exchange? Or is here
> >anybody who can proof, that it should be no problem to have 2 mail
Hello,
please, anybody help.
One of our customers us using a Micrososft Exchange 2003 SBS. Yes, we dont
like it, too.
If this customer send a mail to two lists in to:-field, the mailman
distributes the mail correctly on both lists.
Persons, which are on both lists, get only one email. The problem
t to
him.
See http://www.list.org/i18n.html for more information.
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Brad Knowles wrote:
At 11:38 AM +0200 2004-07-11, Jan Eri wrote:
According to
<http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.008.htp>
I expected that to be enough. But still some (not all) of the messages
are coming through with the footer as attachment. What have I d
through with the footer as attachment. What have I done wrong?
regards,
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never been able to create a new list
via the web page. Whatever password I use (I've set one with the mmsitepass
module) I always are not authorized to create a new list.
Can somebody shed some light on the problem?
Thanks!
Egbert Jan
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I would like to know if it is possible to download your e-mailadresses
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2.1.2 ? When I tested to keep the one
from 2.1.1 then Mailman didn't do anything to that file even after I
started 2.1.2 (it is still the same as from 2.1.1).
Thanks for your answers.
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e.de". But why does mailman
try to send mails with this domain? And where can I changed this?
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Libanonstra
ove that trailing space the subject-line went like
"[mylist]the subject"... urg. So anyone got an idea/sollution to what is
causing the subject to contain unwanted spaces?
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I search google and find a hint about "%(user_delivered_to)s" but it
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> I like to adjust the msg_footer so that it instead of refereing to the
> general admin page for all users
> %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(list_name)s
> would refer to the personal admin page, maybe something like
> %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(list_name)s/%(email_of_subscr
Hi,
Where can I find a description of variables available to use in the
msg_footer? (like web_page_url, cgiext, list_name, ...)
(using Mailman 2.1.1)
Best regards / JB
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Hi,
I like to adjust the msg_footer so that it instead of refereing to the
general admin page for all users
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(list_name)s
would refer to the personal admin page, maybe something like
%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(list_name)s/%(email_of_subscriber)
Hi,
Is it possible to set the default for a list to not send out a welcome
letter to new subscribers added under "Membership Management - Mass
Subscription"?
(I'm sure I otherwise will forget to mark "No" on "Send welcome
messages to new subscribees?" everytime I add people manually.)
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