Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Girts Zeltins wrote: Hello, As I see people stop discussing about all this, but I have check Open Group website and I check that price for CDE source are astronomical! In my opinion Open Group is providing too big price for CDE. It doesn’t cost such money. CDE source prices were not intended

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-22 Thread ken mays
k CDE through the legacy Solaris versions and support Sun's CDE based on that Sun's info. ~ Ken Mays - Original Message From: Girts Zeltins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:43:07 AM Subject: [osol-discuss

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-22 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello, As I see people stop discussing about all this, but I have check Open Group website and I check that price for CDE source are astronomical! In my opinion Open Group is providing too big price for CDE. It doesn’t cost such money. Thank You. Kind Regards, Girts This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-18 Thread Derek E. Lewis
Nicolas Linkert wrote: Apart from that: I always thought one would have to ship CDE in order to be a certified UNIX operating system? No, CDE is only required for UNIX98 Workstation compliance, which Solaris 10 isn't certified for, anyway. Solaris 10 does comply with UNIX2003, but UNIX200

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-18 Thread Nicolas Linkert
If you really care so much for CDE, why don't you use Xfce? Xfce is a very fine desktop environment that can be made CDE-like with a few mouse-clicks. Apart from that: I always thought one would have to ship CDE in order to be a certified UNIX operating system? This message posted from opens

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-17 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
It's not just about nostalgia or I-know-it attitude. I am one of the typical young user of Solaris and I find CDE more productive than either GNOME or KDE. It's not just the desktop, but the associated utilities. The integrated calendar "works" and is far more intuitive than most others (even in

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-16 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On 11/16/06, De Togni Giacomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see another problem.In my opinion,the question is about maintaining a single version of Solaris for Enterprise and Desktop market.These two enviroments are quite different for many reasons.Ten years ago,we had Motif an CDE for all env

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-16 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello De, Thursday, November 16, 2006, 5:32:13 PM, you wrote: DTG> I see another problem.In my opinion,the question is about DTG> maintaining a single version of Solaris for Enterprise and DTG> Desktop market.These two enviroments are quite different for many DTG> reasons.Ten years ago,we had Mo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-16 Thread James Carlson
De Togni Giacomo writes: > Desktop release: drop CDE,add boot splash,more new code from opensolaris new > projects into the system,more GTK+ apps and tools (for example...) > Enterprise Release: maintain a strong compatibity with old software and > hardware (for example...) One reason not to do

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-16 Thread Casper . Dik
>Desktop release: drop CDE,add boot splash,more new code from opensolaris new >projects into the sys tem,more GTK+ apps and tools (for example...) Why? What additional cost (apart from CDE) is there in distibuting CDE? >Enterprise Release: maintain a strong compatibity with old software and >

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-16 Thread De Togni Giacomo
I see another problem.In my opinion,the question is about maintaining a single version of Solaris for Enterprise and Desktop market.These two enviroments are quite different for many reasons.Ten years ago,we had Motif an CDE for all enviroments and this was ok.Then,with the arriving of Gnome an

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-15 Thread Peter Howkins
rlhamil wrote: > > Sure would be good if that petition (to TOG) to open > CDE > got somewhere. Very little Sun could do > unilaterally... > For those that are interested the petition is here, please consider signing it if you agree with its sentiments. http://www.marutan.net/cde/ and here htt

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-14 Thread Joshua Clulow
The Metal L&F in Java 1.5 is Great! It's extensively different from Metal in Java 1.4 (which wasn't stellar). The Java 1.5 GTK L&F is a bit demented as far as colours and widgets go. Having played with some of the 1.6 betas (I'm yet to look at the new release candidate) it appears that Met

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-14 Thread ken mays
Subject: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future drdoug wrote: [...] > CDE in Solaris almost has not changed since day one. > I cannot see why it is a mistake for Sun to remove it > from Solaris. If people from the community want to > support (or update) it then

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
drdoug wrote: [...] > CDE in Solaris almost has not changed since day one. > I cannot see why it is a mistake for Sun to remove it > from Solaris. If people from the community want to > support (or update) it then fine, but I don't see why > it is such a problem for Sun to finally stop making a > v

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-14 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Doug Scott wrote: > CDE in Solaris almost has not changed since day one. I cannot see why > it is a mistake for Sun to remove it from Solaris. If people from the THat's quite simple: GNOME simply doesn't offer a good way for CDE to migrate to GNOME (yet). GNOME doesn't offer

[osol-discuss] Re: About graphical desktops and Solaris future

2006-11-14 Thread Doug Scott
> Hello all, > > I am writing this to talk about Solaris and its > future. I was experimenting with Solaris long time > and I have found many things, which are, need to > change in Solaris. > Recently I was asked question about CDE, about its > future and I had answer that Sun Microsystems don't >