Behalf Of Chris F
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 11:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
What about for someone with not much experience?
For me personally I have quite a few years experience in development with
other langauges. However I have only use
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> On Behalf Of Jamie Surman
> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 9:21 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
>
> I must say, out of the people I have worked with who have passed th
e passed an exam you know more than someone who hasn't, of course.
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From: Scott Barnes
To: ozDotNet
Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 6:28:05
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
My take is this.
Microsoft has a very turbulent / chaotic nature i
han someone who hasn't, of course.
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From: Scott Barnes
To: ozDotNet
Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 6:28:05
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
My take is this.
Microsoft has a very turbulent / chaotic nature in the past 5 years?
to be f
ced to give lectures as part of their tenure...
>>
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>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
>> Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
>>
>> career - especially as the lecturers are generally poor teachers who are
>> forced to give lectures as part of their tenure...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
>> Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
>
ers are generally poor teachers who are
> forced to give lectures as part of their tenure...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
> Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com on behalf of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Thu 11/11/2010 13:03
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different
.
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Walker
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 11:52 AM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
Hi everyone,
the developers at our work are just looking a
I know one IT manager who actually likes employing programmers with degrees
outside of CS. People with vastly different backgrounds tend to think about
problems differently. I remember reading Boeing does the same when they
develop their flight-systems, which are not only are quadruple-backed up,
b
On 11 November 2010 14:26, David Walker wrote:
> Yeah fair enough. We all have CS degrees now - is it worth extending these
> to a Software Engineering degree/masters degree?
I think it depends on the institution and course. When I was at uni I did a
bachelor of information technology with a maj
Yeah fair enough. We all have CS degrees now - is it worth extending these to a
Software Engineering degree/masters degree? Does any education provider offer
something like this? My CS course spent alot of time dealing with topics which
honestly I have never used, and will never use - PRNG's, as
On 11 November 2010 13:51, David Walker wrote:
> the developers at our work are just looking at doing our MCPD for .net 4
> and were wondering if anyone has any input or insight on the usefulness of
> these certifications?
>
In my view, they are completely worthless. Maybe some people are more
in
In order for some companies to be Microsoft certified, they need a certain
number of certified employees. So those employers will look at your more
favourably if you're looking for work.
I've found from personal experience in real terms as an experienced
developer it doesn't really do anything for
I can't remember a recruiter or potential employer ever asking me if I had
any MC* qualifications (I don't). I don't think it has held me back.
As a learning exercise I prefer to build real applications in my spare time
and think I learn more that way. For example I have been using the new Razor
v
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On Behalf Of David Walker
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Subject: [OT] Usefulness of Microsoft Certifications
Hi everyone,
the developers at our work are just looking at doing our MCPD for .net 4 and
were wondering i
Hi everyone,
the developers at our work are just looking at doing our MCPD for .net 4 and
were wondering if anyone has any input or insight on the usefulness of these
certifications?
I currently have a MCAD (.net 1.1 - assuming its still valid) and I honestly
don't know if it helped me beyond
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