Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?

2004-09-13 Thread Kim Stead
  Hi Abbey   I thought I would look this up as I have an interest in mental illness and have a limited knowledge of pharmacology.  Prochiaden is a tricyclic antidepressant and one of the 'older' depression drugs.  More often SSRI's are being used.  Was your friend on this medication before pr

Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
> Where does your friend live abby? If she is in melbourne, or doesn't mind calling melbourne, the Monash Medical Centre drug information line (03-9594 2361), is a brilliant resource for pregnant or breastfeeding women. A man called Rod (White is his surname I think) specialises in medications in

[ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2004

2004-09-13 Thread Dean & Jo
Hello,   just a quick reminder of the National Caesarean Awareness Day celebration that will be held this Saturday at Waterfall Gully from 3.30pm -   Restoring the Birthing Woman Within: a day of emotional healing.   A day of emotional healing is a time to share and express our emotions in

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

Re: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc

2004-09-13 Thread Belinda Maier
I applaud your braveness in writing about your experience take care Belinda - Original Message - From: Honey Acharya To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 2:49 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc Abby I find

[ozmidwifery] Understanding Silence

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Now I understand why some women wrote to me regarding the reponses I may recieve if I speak out against abortion. Wow! you women sure know how to judge while telling others not too. You seem to know me inside out just by reading the few posts I wrote about abortion ( said with sarcasm). If only you

Re: [ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?

2004-09-13 Thread Kirsten Wohlt
Where does your friend live abby? If she is in melbourne, or doesn't mind calling melbourne, the Monash Medical Centre drug information line (03-9594 2361), is a brilliant resource for pregnant or breastfeeding women. A man called Rod (White is his surname I think) specialises in medications i

Re: [ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
>>Perhaps its time you turned the attention and energy around and focus on yourself and look at what it is inside yourself that you can't accept.   Is this really a serious comment? Because of the fact that I strongly disagree with something, then there is something I need to deal with. So.

[ozmidwifery] Re: the abortion topic

2004-09-13 Thread Kim Stead
  Hi guys   I just wanted to add that I am not pro or against abortion - just understanding of women's difficulties and changing circumstances that come up and bite you in the bum when you least expect them!   I do know of women who have had abortions for very sound reasons (now I feel like I

Re: [ozmidwifery] BMid SA

2004-09-13 Thread Callum & Kirsten
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[ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2004

2004-09-13 Thread Dean & Jo
Hello,   just a quick reminder of the National Caesarean Awareness Day celebration that will be held this Saturday at Waterfall Gully from 3.30pm -   Restoring the Birthing Woman Within: a day of emotional healing.   A day of emotional healing is a time to share and express our emotions in

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] Prochiaden and breastfeeding?

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Thought some of you wise women could help with a friends query. She has been prescribed Prochiaden 25mg for depression and she is breastfeeding her 2 month old. She was worried about the side effects and what effects that would have on bubs. I thought that most anti depressants would have similiar

Re: [ozmidwifery] repeating posts

2004-09-13 Thread Kim Stead
Hey Jo!   I am not cross and I am sure the others are not as it is obviously un-intentional.  Good luck with the tech friend!!  Don't they come in handy.   Kim.      ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14/09/2004 3:45:30 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidw

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Nikki Macfarlane
Abby, This is clearly an issue that you feel very strongly about and one that you are willing to fight for. I applaud you for having such a passion. Thought it might be worth considering the perspective of others for short time. Abortion for most women is not an easy decision. It is not somethin

[ozmidwifery] abortion 'discussion'?

2004-09-13 Thread Belinda Maier
I am extraordinarily disappointed that for some women the devotion to the care and wellbeing of women extends only to those who 'fit'. I accept any woman's right to belief in how to manage their own lifestyle and the choices therein, therefore I think it is absolutely okay to disagree with abortio

[ozmidwifery] abortion and working with women etc

2004-09-13 Thread Honey Acharya
Abby I find your writings on abortion very judgemental of others. How can you sit in judgment when you personally have not been through abortion and know what it is like, or know why a woman would make that choice? It seems you have never had to face a situation personally with abortion. Or

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
>>We are talking about a procedure much more akin to the removal of unwanted/unviable flesh from a woman's body, to assess it from a purely medical point of view. I would love to hear this said to Gianna, the aborted fetus that lived to tell of her story. How can we call, something two people have

[ozmidwifery] Another client moving east!!!!

2004-09-13 Thread Laraine Hood
Hi all again, this time I have a Community Midwifery Program client moving around but will be in Brisbane for Christmas, and then probably birth in Tamworth EDB 5-02-05.  They are there for the Country Music Festival (about Jan 24th).  She had planned a homebirth  here in WA, but will be

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
>>I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries.  Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies one is

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc >>Abby, use your passion to work to reduce unwanted pregnancies, rather than judge those who make such a difficult choice.   Just wanted to make it clear that I judge the action, not the woman. A very good friend of mine had an abortion, I love her b

[ozmidwifery] review of maternity services in QLD

2004-09-13 Thread cath nolan
Hi,   I'm not sure if this has been mentioned previously. I have just seen Saturdays Australian (I live in a remote part of Australia and get the paper days later) regarding an invitation for public comment on pg 7.,.into review of maternity services in QLD. There is an email for information

RE: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Judy Giesaitis
Well said Trish. Years ago when I first started @ uni, we had one subject on abortion specifically. As I read, I found that I needed to take a stand, one way or another, but the more that I read the less able I was to make a stand. I guess the old adage of " walk a mile in their shoes" is very t

Re: [ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Trish David
Dear Listers. I can't resist my two-bob's worth (yes a child of the predecimal era). I would personally resist fundamentalism in all things, that is, the extremist views on any topic, one way or the other. Fundamentalism is the cause of many of the world's woes. Extremist views on abortion do defy

[ozmidwifery] Vegan and pro-choice (was abortion etc)

2004-09-13 Thread Leanne Veitch
Abby and Toby wrote: >>Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous! I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because they don't want to harm or kill an animal, yet they will willfully, and by choi

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Abby:   I don't find it ridiculous that you would say it. Vegetarians are often held to much "higher" expectations than others, but just in case you hadn't noticed they are human too and liable to all such vagaries.  Apparently refusing to eat animals or objecting to animal cruelty implies o

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] West Today

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear all I trust you all read page 15 in today's West by Geraldine Mellett   Anyone able to transcribe to the list for those who did not?? Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

[ozmidwifery] Are there any Alice Springs midwives out there?

2004-09-13 Thread Anglodutch NTL Account
Hi all, Just wondering if any midwives who work at ASH read this mailing list. If so, I'd love to hear from you! I am presently working in the UK but coming to work in Alice Springs early next year. You can contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Claudia Riley. --- Outgoing mail is certified

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy

2004-09-13 Thread sally
Unfortunately drugs and violence are a fact of life, we see it every day on the TV and in the papers, so it goes without saying that women and children are affected. We need to give these women and children the best possible care, to give them the best possible chance to help them change their live

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Justine Caines
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc Dear Belinda Your message was very wise and respectful. I have kept it in my stored messages as one of those re-reads. Having lived through an abortion debate in the ACT Legislative Assembly (whilst heavily pregnant with our first child) I learnt many

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Joyous Birth Fw: [birthnews] FW: raffle to support Jeanine Parvati Baker, birthkeeper

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
-Original Message-From: Sarah J Buckley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 8:12 PMTo: Sarah BuckleySubject: raffle to support Jeanine Parvati Baker, birthkeeper Dear friends   I am organising the Australian branch of a US raffle to benefit my friend and mentor

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: drug use in pregnancy

2004-09-13 Thread Nicole Christensen
Thank you Belinda - I too hope that she recieves the extra support you mentioned (and that it is actually available here!) - both ante and post-natally ...for both her AND her baby kindest regards, Nicole ps. I have dreams and aspirations of undertaking the direct entry Bach. of Midwifery at UT

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
>>Vegetarianism and abortion, I find that incredibly ridiculous!   I just can't get this comment out of my head. It is so ridiculous...so ridiculous that some women don't eat meat because they don't want to harm or kill an animal, yet they will willfully, and by choice, harm and kill

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
" Abortion is a reflection that we have not met the needs of women. Women deserve better than abortion." Feminists For Life

[ozmidwifery] Abortion Facts in Australia

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Here are some, what I find, disturbing facts about abortion in Australia.   -There are 100,000 abortions in Australia each year.-There are 800 abortions each week in NSW - approximately 40,000 annually.-There are 250,000 live births each year in Australia, which means that there are 2 aborted

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
>>Violence is perpetrated against women and children all over the world, lets not equate abortion in this, lets make the world a better place for women and children to be born into and to live. I'm not sure that I quite understand what you are saying, but I think you are saying that we shoul

Re: [ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Denise Hynd
More quotes and generosity of spirit thank you Denise Hynd   "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Belinda Maier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue

[ozmidwifery] re: abortion etc

2004-09-13 Thread Belinda Maier
I am extraordinarily disappointed that for some women the devotion to thecare and wellbeing of women extends only to those who 'fit'. I accept anywoman's right to belief in how to manage their own lifestyle and the choicestherein, therefore  I think it is absolutely okay to disagree withabor

Re: [ozmidwifery] antenatal notes template

2004-09-13 Thread Andrea Quanchi
Kirsten, Sorry for taking so long to answer but I havent seen any other replies. I just made up a card on my computer basing it on locally used ones that are quite good. The woman keep these. My antenatal notes I just do on my computer and is a copy of the same page and then I write contemporous n

Re: [ozmidwifery] Victorian Home Birth Stats

2004-09-13 Thread Andrea Bilcliff
Hi Katrina, MIPPs have just received their copies in the mail of the 2003 stats. Is there anything I can help you with or copy for you? Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - Hi, can someone please email me or point me in the direction of the most recent Vic Homebirth Stats? Many thanks,

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Joyous Birth Big sigh :) This is lovely

2004-09-13 Thread Abby and Toby
Subject: Joyous Birth Big sigh :) This is lovely http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw104008_20040910.htmGreat, short homebirth story!   Love Abby Every woman and every baby and every family have the right to Joyous Birth! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor