August Pug Comments and LX Gallery Comments

2001-08-02 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
The August PUG gallery . . . Henry Chu - "Lights of Hong Kong" - Beautiful. It's not easy to make that kind of sky into a nice pic. Tiger Moses - "Arches at Night" - The flashing (airplane?) lights are awesome. Think how different if they had continued out of the picture. If so, I would have

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Alan Chan
>generally carry the 28-70 f4 instead. I never seriously considered >buying the 80-200 f2.8 once I saw how much it weighs. (Probably would >not have bought it anyway because of the price.) That's why Pentax should release a FA* 70-210/4 ED IF instead with 67mm filter size (something like the Can

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
Now why would the TI rep drop the HP just to show it wouldn't break :) HP built great calculators that's one of the reasons they have semi abandoned the calculator field, once you own an HP you never have to buy another. At 07:34 PM 7/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >A true and similar matter occurred

Re: PUG Observations

2001-08-02 Thread Steve Larson
Thanks for the kind words Ernest. I was sitting in a chair, in the cockpit of a boat with both elbows resting on the arms of the chair, otherwise I don`t think I would have had a prayer. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Ernest Alejandria" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Just joined the group.

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
I always thought that the great unifying force in Canada was that you weren't Americans. At 08:42 PM 7/29/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Lasse Karlsson wrote: > > > Hi Don, > > Welcome to the list! > > Always nice to see new members arrive. Keeps us from degenerating TOO > much... :) > > As you may

Selling on eBay: Motor Drive MX, K30/2.8, M50/4 macro

2001-08-02 Thread Chris Brogden
Sorry to take up space with this, but if anyone's interested in the above items, I just listed them on eBay. You can see them at: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=chrisbrogden chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to htt

Re: Just joined the group.

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
Isn't that most of them, (just to add my own inane comment). At 05:39 PM 7/29/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Don ... > >Welcome! I hope you find this list to be fun and informative. Feel >free to ask questions, jump into our many conversations - even those >that are off topic and inane. >-- >Shel Be

FS: Tak 55f/2 screw mt

2001-08-02 Thread JTodd19261
Selling a Takumar 55mm f/2 screw mount lens with auto pin in EX condition $20 with generic caps. Please contact me directly. Thanks. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users'

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Robert Harris
Alan Chan wrote: > > ...Pentax should release a FA* 70-210/4 ED IF instead with 67mm > filter size (something like the Canon EF70-200/4), and mark it no more > expensive than the FA*300/4.5 ED IF. I would be the 1st to replace my > A70-210/4 with it. Amen to that. I bitterly regret to this day

Re: Professional

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
So by inference ramming a hockey stick up a persons ass isn't Brain surgery unless the rammer has gone to medical school. I thought that the Canadian medical system was in trouble because of rampant bureaucracy. Now I see that they have other problems (Now this should draw some flack). At

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
F2 I believe. At 04:31 AM 7/30/2001 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/29/01 9:27:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ><< This the Nikon F3 you are talking about? The one that came out > about 1978? >> > >Thanks for the education. Exactly which Nikon "F" body connected

Re[2]: Professional

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
I can see it now 7 wars in 7 days and 6 nights lodging and all gratuities included. Bullets extra. At 05:12 PM 7/29/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, > > > And I suggest we go any one of these places: > > > http://www.worldrevolution.org/WebGuide/Peace/Other/CurrentWars.htm > >do they do package tour

Re: Professional: meta-discussion

2001-08-02 Thread Robert Harris
Peter Alling wrote: > > Now why would the TI rep drop the HP just to show it > wouldn't break :) > > HP built great calculators that's one of the reasons > they have semi abandoned the calculator field, once you > own an HP you never have to buy another. Yep. Still use my HP 12c. Hardly ever

Re: Ameteur

2001-08-02 Thread Mark Cassino
At 02:21 PM 8/1/01 -0400, you wrote: OK, we seem to have reached a consensus that "professional" means one of two things ( 1. Someone who does it for money. 2. Someone who is a member of a professional organization ) though many on the list refuse to except the meaning other than the one they espo

Re: Todd Stanley - A Great Guy

2001-08-02 Thread Todd Stanley
You're Welcome :) Basically, I had been keeping an eye on prices, so I knew Shel's offer was a good price, but decided to check it out anyway. After I descovered that Shel's offer was a really big bargian, I knew I wouldn't feel comfortable unless I absolutely knew he was willing to sell the

K55 1.8 -- $33

2001-08-02 Thread Juan J. Buhler
I think someone was looking for a K55 1.8 here a few weeks ago. I found one, in "9" condition for $33 on this site: http://www.woodcam.com/ (go to inventory/Pentax K) I have never bought from them so I couldn't tell how good they are. j = -- Juan J. Buhler http://www.jbuhler.com _

LX for sale

2001-08-02 Thread Jerome
Hi all, I have to sell one of my LX...so here it goes. This one is in really excellent condition AND it has been CLA'd by Pentax France 8 months ago...so you're OK for another 10 year of trouble free shooting. I'll include the french invoice from the FNAC for the CLA. (around $120 of CLA) Her

We all have one of those days...

2001-08-02 Thread David A. Mann
Hi all, I've had a rather disappointing evening's shopping. The camera shop called me this afternoon telling me that my K2 is back from the repair shop (this is only the 4th time its been in). So I go in this evening and the first thing I see is a Pentax 67II on the second hand shelf.

User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread gert . jan . bollen
Hi All out there, Well yesterday I discovered this mailing list. I'm an amateur photographer for 15 years in the Netherlands. that you have experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom Up till now I used the LX and Pentax prime lenses, favorits are FA24mm F2 and the M100mm macro 4.0, when wei

Re: Pentax's Amatuer MZ-S and LX Autofocus

2001-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
Vic wrote: >I certainly agree that the > autofocus LX will never be made. How can one agree on such things? It will be made or not be made regardless of whether you agree or not :-) >It may be fun to speculate about what it > should or should not have but it will never be made. Theres n

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Rfsindg
The FA28-70 f2.8 is a big and heavy lens. It fits nicely on a PZ-1p (Z-1p) with a grip. It may be a bit overpowering for a MZ-S in terms of size and weight. It would be similar to using your FA24 f2.0 on the LX. The lens is expensive but amazing. It is sharp and fast plus it focuses to clo

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Paul Jones
The FA28-70/4 is pretty cheap and is an excellent performer, is has a constant aperture too. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom? > > Hi All out there,

Re: Problem with Tamron Adaptall mount

2001-08-02 Thread Alin Flaider
Hi Richard, Never had this kind of problem with my Tamron KA Adaptall-2 mount but, normally you shouldn't get aperture readings when in aperture priority ( with a manual focus lens ). The fact that you do get aperture readings when setting the aperture ring anywhere else but AE

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Robert Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > A working professional > could work very nicely with this lens plus the FA80-200 f2.8. They would > cover most focal lengths with prime quality. But only if he/she had a strong back or a mule. I love my 28-70 f2.8 but hardly ever use it because it adds so much weigh

RE: 17mm fish-eye advice

2001-08-02 Thread Peter Alling
Lets not get back on the subject of self dating. At 04:37 PM 7/29/2001 -0700, you wrote: >You are dating yourself there :) Christmas '75 - don't >remember that one, and not because of what I was >drinking (I was on a breastmilk diet at the time). >Just out of curiosity - which camera took the ph

Re: K50 F1.4

2001-08-02 Thread admin
It is a *great* lens optically, and what's more, it's mechanical construction is simply magnificent. Manual focus at its finest. Brilliant optics. A joy to hold and use. Anyone who has a K-series camera (K1000, KM, KX, K2) owes it to themselves to get this lens. Mike Johnston sold one (recently,

Re: 2 B/W shots + film for pro & not

2001-08-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Paul Jones wrote: > > I once saw an article in a photog magazine with shots of seals on a > windy/sandy beach, it was shot with Astia and the results were spectacular. > > Whats it like compared to Provia 100F as all purpose film? Provia is more neutral, lower in contrast and finer-grained.

Re: Astia Fuji

2001-08-02 Thread Pentxuser
I've shot a couple of rolls of Astia (actually it was on sale because it expired) and I loved it. Has many of the same qualities as Velvia. I bought more expired film for my upcoming trip to PEI. It's been in the fridge all along so I'm not the least bit worried about it Vic - This message

Re: Smack

2001-08-02 Thread Robert Harris
Jim Moniz wrote: > > I enjoyed it, even though my stupid 56K modem didn't want me to... Did you have any problem connecting? How did you do it? I have tried several times, last night and this morning, and it will not play for me. I click on the place that seems to be the place to play the thing

Re: Re[4]: LX with AF, realy it works !

2001-08-02 Thread Alexander Krohe
--- Nenad Djurdjevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alexander Krohe wrote: > > > The LX measures light in two different ways: > > -- For the viewfinder indication, the LX measures > the > > light that is reflected from a secondary mirror > onto > > the metering cell (this value is stored in the

Re: Pentax's Amatuer MZ-S and LX Autofocus

2001-08-02 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 8/2/01 6:15:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pal writes << Absolutely not. The MZ-S is not an LX with AF. The director would never have said that they wanted to make an LX with AF if it was already made; particularly not in an article on Pentax future di

Re: K50 F1.4

2001-08-02 Thread Evan Hanson
Vic, If memory serves this lens is a k-mount version of the SMCT 50 1.4. IMHO a great lens but I don't know about the price. Given how normal primes have fallen out of favor about $80 us seems a bit steep, or maybe I'm cheap. Evan - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAI

Re: First Kiss

2001-08-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Scooterman wrote: > So do we get to see the pics or not?!!! I suggest 'various stages of undress' as an upcoming PUG theme...the he'd be obligated to show us! ;) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.

Re: Pentax's Amatuer MZ-S and LX Autofocus

2001-08-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
- Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Who's going to buy battery hungry, large, auto everything slr that can shoot 5+ fps in the future? Nobody. People who want these cameras are going to go digital. Whats left in the 35mm slr field, apart from the absolute entry l

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 8/2/01 8:52:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > A working professional > could work very nicely with this lens plus the FA80-200 f2.8. They would > cover most focal lengths with prime quality. But only if he/she had a

Re: Smack

2001-08-02 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi Jim, Thanks for looking. When you want to express your opinion about the movie (and you MUST!) they ask you a code to be sure you do not vote twice or more a day. You can have the code by clicking on the button in the window you see the movie in. You can have the code only if you see the movie,

Re: My Favs for this Month

2001-08-02 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Paul Jones wrote: > "Yaquina Bay Bridge" by Bill Casselberry > this shots gives me a surreal feeling and not just because > of the Infrared film. Great Exposure and composition. thanks! exposure was strictly "by the book" - one of the coolest things about IR is that

Re: August PUG

2001-08-02 Thread William Robb
I'll get that fixed later today. Oh, yes, the LX Gallery is linked to this month's page. You can't miss the link. William Robb - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: Re: August PUG > Dear Pug Meister, > > T

LX CPU? (was Re: LX with AF, realy it works !)

2001-08-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Someone said: > > I was told by a Pentax rep. that they skipped the AE > > lock because the the exposure value (used in automatic > > mode) is not stored by the camera CPU. I've looked through all my LX, and several others. I've read Crawley's book about the camera. I've read countless threads

Re: First Kiss

2001-08-02 Thread Ernest Alejandria
On Aug. 2, 2001, Aaron Reynolds wrote: >Scooterman wrote: >>So do we get to see the pics or not?!!! >I suggest 'various stages of undress' as an upcoming PUG theme...the >he'd be obligated to show us! ;) H, why do I see a lawsuit in my future from someone I haven't seen in over 14 years

LX and PUG Gallery

2001-08-02 Thread Norman Baugher
Just a quick note, the Aug gallery is great, I'll comment later. The LX gallery I found to be *absolutely* outstanding. Great work guys. Norm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax

Re: PUG

2001-08-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
"Bill D. Casselberry" wrote: > Arf, Arf ho! Ar-OooH Chalk up another one for the 20mm f4.5 Super "Bow-Wow" Takumar > HIGH FIVE! -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Why should I use a meter? What if the darn thing broke on me when I was out ma

Re: Meter calibration with sunny 16.

2001-08-02 Thread ZawadiMedia
In a message dated 8/2/01 1:22:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Yesterday, I read in Shaw's "Closeups in Nature" how to calibrate the camera's meter with sunny 16, and I found amazing that you can actually take pictures without using a meter, I think I'm veeery slooo

Re: Meter calibration with sunny 16.

2001-08-02 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
Congratulations you have just discovered why I tell people to use sunny-11. Green grass is usually very close to 18%. But I would not change your camera meter settings until I tried it with slide film. One of the problems w sunny-16 is that when it was the way to meter film speed was rated one

RE: Problem with Tamron Adaptall mount

2001-08-02 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich
> I just purchased a new Tamron 90mm f/2.8 adaptall macro lens and > a adaptall > 2 mount for Pentax KA. The lens and mount work perfectly with an older K Why didn't you buy the AF version in Pentax mount? I have it, and it works without a problem on my PZ-1. Perhaps you can exchange it? Frits

Re: PUG Observations

2001-08-02 Thread Ernest Alejandria
Great Gallery again this month. Here are just a few comments on some that stood out for me, in no particular order. Hands by David Mann- There's almost a religious quality to this picture that evokes memories of my Catholic school days of yore. I love it. Memory by Luis Pinar- Eerie and very p

Re: LX CPU? (was Re: LX with AF, realy it works !)

2001-08-02 Thread Alexander Krohe
Look these links; http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/metering/metering.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/metering/exposure.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/flash/options.htm --- Shel Belinko

Re: Meter calibration with sunny 16.

2001-08-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Best way to calibrate for "sunny 16" is > camera on manual-centre weight, set > the lens at f/16 (ISO 100) point the lens > at a ~clear~ patch of the bluest part of > the sky, usually away from the sun. While this is an OK method if you don't care for or need prec

Re: Aug Pug:First impressions

2001-08-02 Thread Frank Theriault
Thanks for your comment, Dave! -frank David J Brooks wrote: > Once again,a great gallery to look at.Just viewd it and > some that make first impressions are: > > David A Mann: "Hand" very erie but soft > > Cesar A Mantamoros:"Barrel Racer in Florida" nice action > shot(we have to have 1 horse

Re: August PUG

2001-08-02 Thread Juan J. Buhler
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "1993", Juan Buhler. Nice picture of you and your nerd friends :-P . No, > really, I like it, and it reminds me a lot of similar things we try to do > with my friends. Gracias, Albano. Nerd friends, allright. That what we still are, actually. It wa

Re: LX CPU? (was Re: LX with AF, realy it works !)

2001-08-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Maybe we have a different idea of what a CPU is ... thanks. Alexander Krohe wrote: > > Look these links; > > >http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/metering/metering.htm > > >http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/metering/exposure.htm >

Re: Offer from Kevin at JD Color

2001-08-02 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Bucky wrote: > Kevin wrote me the following note to pass on: > > Thanks for all the input. I don't know if I mentioned this to you > before but I work for a Retail camera store. This of course means > that we can get new product and I will be getting the stuff I buy for > m

Re: August PUG comments

2001-08-02 Thread JeffW.
Question on prices. Would $54 for a Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic 500 SP in very to excellent condition and SMC Tak 55/f2 be about right? TIA, JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the

Re: August PUG comments

2001-08-02 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, JeffW. wrote: > Question on prices. Would $54 for a Honeywell Pentax Spotmatic 500 SP in > very to excellent condition and SMC Tak 55/f2 be about right? It's not bad. I've seen them go for less, but also for more (though not much more). chris - This message is from the Pen

Re: the gallery, finally

2001-08-02 Thread Mark Roberts
"CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >After a quick trip through the shots, > >The ones that made me say DAMN!: > >Mark Roberts -Leicester Square Carousel > Those images look ghostly! Thanks! I took about 5 shots and they all came out quite similar and yet quite different as different kids on the rid

PUG themes

2001-08-02 Thread William Robb
> But speaking of the PUG, where do I find the list of themes for upcoming > months? I've always wondered. http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html There is a link below the thumbnails called "previous galleries and other stuff" Behind that link is another index page, leading to all sorts of

Re: Meter calibration with sunny 16.

2001-08-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > One of the problems w sunny-16 is > that when it was the way to meter > film speed was rated one stop lower > than it is today. No they didn't > improve the film, they just changed > the rating. The difference is that > before meters were common the film > makers

Re: Equipment Question - Response Requested

2001-08-02 Thread Mark Roberts
"Nenad Djurdjevic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Harry Baughman wrote: > >> i used that 1.7 converter when i had a sf1n a long time ago. i put it on >> with a 85 1.8 lens. you set the lens to infinity and let the >> teleconverter do the focusing. i don't remember how it worked with >> regards to cl

Re: August PUG

2001-08-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: August PUG > Dear Pug Meister, > > The chain of photos still skips Gordie Clarke's submission. You have to get there from the thumbnail on the main page only. > K, its fixed now. > I also noticed the LX gallery on the bottom! Regard

Re: August PUG

2001-08-02 Thread William Robb
Hmm, you need to have Java enabled for those links to operate. Bill - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" < Subject: Re: August PUG > > Lots of nice images in the LX gallery but the "Technical" and "History" links on > the main page don't work for me. The "The LX Gallery" link itsel

Re: User experiance with theSMC F*28 - 70 F2.8AL zoom?

2001-08-02 Thread Pål Jensen
> Well I did bought the MZ-S but the 24-90 mm did not felt solid at all. It is said >that the optics are quit good. Well, the bad news is that the FA* 28-70/2.8 isn't well built at all. Optically its great. If you want a lightweight and flexible zoom outfit your best bet is the 24-90. If yo

Re: Re: Two B/W Shots

2001-08-02 Thread Paul Jones
A place near home actualy loads there fuji fronteir with b/w paper once a day to print 400cn, for the same price as normal c41 process and print. Only used them once, there not really convenient to go to. - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Re: Two B/W Shots

2001-08-02 Thread David J Brooks
Paul,I use the 400CN film for exactly your reasons,print out on colour paper,view the ones i like then reprint on B&W paper.I remember last year having 2 rolls of B&W film done at a lab with xtra prints and i think it ran me $50.00 Can to do.I can develop the CN for $7.99 and reprints are $0.49 on

Re:OT: Professionals -- Markov says...

2001-08-02 Thread Aaron Reynolds
"Juan J. Buhler" wrote: > I'll look in the web for something similar, or maybe I'll try to write > my own (the one my friend wrote has some limitations I think--it could > and should try to keep sentences a bit more coherent.) If I come up > with something, I'll let you know. These responses

Re: Smack

2001-08-02 Thread Jim Moniz
I enjoyed it, even though my stupid 56K modem didn't want me to...what is the "vote code" they want me to enter? Jim - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: Smack > Hi everybody, > > I'm s

Absolutely OT: Re: OT... way OT - more 2

2001-08-02 Thread Atvars_Karro
Mafud, would you please use that ~stressing~ marks a bit less than now? It lets me think you are very nervous/agressive person. IMHO only, no personal abuse at all :) Imagine I WOULD WRITE CAPSLOCK ONLY! :) Regards, Atvars, looking at the unbelievable beautiful blue sky, light blue with a bit g

Re: the gallery, finally

2001-08-02 Thread Jostein Øksne
- Original Message - From: "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...snip...] > Jostein Oksne-Night Pipe > That green smoke is very very cool Thanks, Cory. The smoke from that pipe is very strange. It takes on different colours after the light. In bright daylight it's usually white, but under hea

Re: A matter of identity

2001-08-02 Thread Jim Brooks
Aaron Reynolds wrote: "Jim, perhaps you should loan your sig file to Mafud? ;)" Aaron - are you sure that was me? ;D Jim Brooks E-MAILS are susceptible to interference. You should not assume that the contents originated

Re: A 28/3.5 Shift Lens

2001-08-02 Thread Arnold Stark
Nicholas Wright schrieb: > I am very interested in having a perspective control lens in my system. I > know, I know, I should get a large format. Well, that's just not going to > happen anytime soon. :] Anyway I was wondering, does anyone on the list have > any experience with this lens? Image qu