Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger (front 3/4)

2006-01-11 Thread David Savage
Holy Crap! That car is just one big crumple zone. Airbags don't seem to work so well when the whole firewall gets pushed into your face. Dave On 1/12/06, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lovely: > > http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/ > > http://www.anwb.nl/published/anwbcms/content/binai

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 11, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: We'll have to wait and see how fast and good emulation of Power PC code is? I went to Macworld Expo today and brought along a couple of my own PEF and DNG files. I tested RAW conversion with ACR and Photoshop CS2 editing on the new iM

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Dario Bonazza
Paul, In the Pentax roadmap, it's stated to be D-FA. Dario - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:10 AM Subject: Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)? And I'll bet a few beers that it will be a DA. On Jan 11, 2006,

Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger (front 3/4)

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
I've never seen visual comparisons like that before, only read about them. Very informative. Thank you. You just saved the Western World. Tom C. From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger

Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger (front 3/4)

2006-01-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Jan 2006 at 18:42, David Mann wrote: > On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The Chinese even showed up with a car this year. > > Do you mean this one? > http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1783784,00.html > > I'm surprised they're allowed to sell it!

Betr.: Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread Bart Van Hoyweghen
Godfrey, Adam's answer explains his preference for the MAC OS Your answer was just Windows bashing... Don't want to attack you, normally your answers are balanced, to the point, and I appreciate them a lot. Here I feel you lost track a bit. Hey, just my 0.02c, so take it at this value Bart P

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread David Mann
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:54 PM, Cotty wrote: [about running OS X on commodity X86 hardware] Blocked by Apple through hardware and/or software. More info available after the hackers do their bit. OTOH they haven't done anything to prevent booting XP on an Intel Mac. They just don't officially

Re: Saskatchewan - was Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Good point... I would add - That we know of... Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:38:00 -0500 I donno, he has no children... (Yes I know I'm baaad). T

Re: PESO: New Dodge Challenger (front 3/4)

2006-01-11 Thread David Mann
On Jan 12, 2006, at 7:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Chinese even showed up with a car this year. Do you mean this one? http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22749-1783784,00.html I'm surprised they're allowed to sell it! - Dave

Re: The ultimate Canon.

2006-01-11 Thread David Mann
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Cotty wrote: Needs a football game on the LCD :-) Not sure about football but you can get Pac-Man or even DOOM... http://digita.mame.net/ - Dave

pdml@pdml.net

2006-01-11 Thread David Savage
Thanks Marnie, Paul & Dave for your comments. Dave On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:24:43 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love B&W flower shots Dave, and this one is a beauty. Nice detail and > sharpness. > > Dave Brooks

RE: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Thank you Shel & Keith. I'm glad you liked it. Tom C. From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Aspens I Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:50:18 -0800 Well done ... good framing, a more interesting approach than the

RE: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well done ... good framing, a more interesting approach than the typical Aspen or Birch grove photo. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Tom C > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4002547 > > Tom C. >

Re: OT: Pentax content...WARNING!

2006-01-11 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I do ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Coyle > Who still uses Pentax and drives a Honda!

Re: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Keith McGuinness
Bob W wrote: ...but I like the way this is framed and the way it contrasts with the other trees. I like it too, for the same reasons. Keith McG

Re: OT: Pentax content...WARNING!

2006-01-11 Thread John Coyle
I've still got one too Rob - I think I got it with my ME in the UK in 1979, or thereabouts. It's not in such good condition as yours though,as it's in daily use... Who still uses Pentax and drives a Honda! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAI

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I donno, he has no children... (Yes I know I'm baaad). Tom C wrote: Wiiliam Robb wrote: Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize mental deficients. I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide open... wide wide wide open. :-) Tom C. -

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The 35-350 is a beast of a lens, as is the FA* 600/4, neither is going to be as fast as a smaller lens, you should really pick a more reasonable comparison than a pair of lenses that only a handful of people will ever use. A

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Maas
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pal, have you shot with a USM or AF-S lens? There's no comparison in AF performance. USM absolutely blows screw-drive AF out of the water unless you have either an ultra-light lens (like a 50mm) or one of t

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Adam Maas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pal, have you shot with a USM or AF-S lens? There's no comparison in AF performance. USM absolutely blows screw-drive AF out of the water unless you have either an ultra-light lens (like a 50mm) or one of the very few camera

Re: OT: Pentax content...WARNING!

2006-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
"Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 11 Jan 2006 at 20:23, Christian wrote: > >> Wow. Didn't know Pentax advertised in racing. I was at a Orioles game >> in Baltimore this year. A big sighn behind home plate read: >> PENTAX >> Endoscopes Digital Imaging > >I still have some Pentax Hon

RE: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-11 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have used my 500mm/4.5 SMCT lens with 400 film HANDHELD on many occasions. Just make sure you use 1/500 shutter speed or faster. I think the weight HELPS hold it steadyNot that a tripod wont help but the lens is definitely usable hand held in my opinion for some things.. jco -Original Me

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
Why the personal tone? Jack --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > > > You still feel frustrated by your insecurity? > > Don't do it again and you may just get away with it..whatever "it"

Re: OT: Pentax content...WARNING!

2006-01-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jan 2006 at 20:23, Christian wrote: > Wow. Didn't know Pentax advertised in racing. I was at a Orioles game > in Baltimore this year. A big sighn behind home plate read: > PENTAX > Endoscopes Digital Imaging I still have some Pentax Honda Racing camera straps. http://home.swiftdsl.com.

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Maas
Pål Jensen wrote: "Reason for this is that the heavy optics in a fast telezoom needs improvement to the autofocus system, this probably means in-lens autofocus motor, and it won't happen before the D replacement is ready to go on sale." This is clearly nonsense as Pentax already have fas

Korean nanotech firm Demos new sensor design

2006-01-11 Thread Perry Pellechia
Interesting article about new sensor technology with 2,000 timeshigher sensitivity than current sensors.(Hey it's better than the reading about the injustices of the legal system.) "innovative and highly sensitive image sensor, Single CarrierModulation Photo Detector (SMPD), which uses nanotechn

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
And I'll bet a few beers that it will be a DA. On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Jostein wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is almost certainly going to be a 50-200ish f2.8. Quote me in a few months if I'm wrong and the beer will be on me. Collectio

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide open... wide wide wide open. :-) I volunteered when I got married, on the theory it's better to do the right thing yourself if those in charge

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Wiiliam Robb wrote: Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize mental deficients. I take it you just squeaked by then... could not resist... wide open... wide wide wide open. :-) Tom C.

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded What's the point? The fact that crimes are comitted does not justify comitting other "crimes" to catch the criminal. And if it's not the criminal who's caught, but an innocent person, what was accomplished?

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
In theory. Tom C. From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:33:26 -0600 - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Legally if you are charg

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded You still feel frustrated by your insecurity? Don't do it again and you may just get away with it..whatever "it" is. Jack, I feel frustrated by your stupidity sometimes. Other than that, I'm pretty stab

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded I guess that's better then... Okay, not idiots (because generally, we're pretty docile). Lobotomize schizophrenics. That better? Some 50 or so years ago, Saskatchewan used to routinely sterilize

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded It even happens in sleepy small town Saskatchewan, Canada (I'm sure Wheatfield is familiar with this one): http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/martin/ All it takes is an enthusiastic social worker, a police fo

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded http://www.rainn.org/statistics/index.html I've always been amused by the "we don't know anything so we'll make it up" method of deriving statistics. William Robb

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Legally if you are charged and found guilty, you are guilty. That's a tautology. Whether you've committed the crime that you're guilty of is beside the point. In most of the English speaking world, y

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Foreign policy is that way in every country. Just some are more straight forward than others. Well, not really, but you aren't in a position to discuss this one, and it is so far off topic that it sh

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:34 PM Subject: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=1807 Any thoughts? "Reason for this is that the heavy optics

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Mark Roberts wrote: People just tend to prefer what they're most used to and always get the most accomplished with the least effort on that platform. Mark, I don't think you're allowed to make sensible remarks of that nature on that subject. I'm sure it's completely illegal, somehow. Though y

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There would be little point in producing a 50-220 f4 when there is already a 50-200 f4-5.6. Nor would such a lens merit the term "high performance". Huh? Why wouldn't it merit the term high performance? Performance has

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
That last message may be exactly that for this thread. It was to satisfy my need for "closure". Lets see, where did I put that camera. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack Davis wote (with my replies interspersed): > > >Injustice through ignorance is a reality. > > I agree. > > >R

Re: PESO: Diesel is dead

2006-01-11 Thread japilado
I bet that sailing craft has a diesel engine on board to help it maneuver in port. Jim A. > Of course you will probably be able to get small quantities from > specialty labs at greatly inflated prices for the next twenty years or > so, but the switch is inevitable. > > http://www.photosynth.c

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Very funny! Tom C. I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about being turned in for dead horse abuse. :-) Tom C. Necrofillyphilia is the legal term. John

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:59:38 -, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know about you, but I'm getting worried about being turned in for dead horse abuse. :-) Tom C. Necrofillyphilia is the legal term. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Jack Davis wote (with my replies interspersed): Injustice through ignorance is a reality. I agree. Realizing that's the case, it's easy to say to yourself; "I can't be responsible for the unthinking damage they are going to cause to all those connected". I think the difference is I say to

Re: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-11 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Beautiful bird shots, Jostein. It must bu nice to have that much Pentax glass "ahead" of you. Regards jens Um... Most of all it's heavy... But naturally, it's nice. Boys and toys, you know...:-) It's a new experience to w

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is almost certainly going to be a 50-200ish f2.8. Quote me in a few months if I'm wrong and the beer will be on me. Collection in person. A deal, John. :-) Wouldn't mind buying you one if you're right, either. :-)

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
Injustice through ignorance is a reality. Realizing that's the case, it's easy to say to yourself; "I can't be responsible for the unthinking damage they are going to cause to all those connected". People are selfish and indiscriminate in their conclusion jumping, ego driven, opinion spewing. I'm N

RE: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Thanks Bob. Nice to hear words indeed! Tom C. From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: RE: PESO - Aspens I Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:38:49 - That's very nicely done, Tom. Aspens are usually such a cliché that I just yawn and say 'Ho hum', but I

RE: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Bob W
That's very nicely done, Tom. Aspens are usually such a cliché that I just yawn and say 'Ho hum', but I like the way this is framed and the way it contrasts with the other trees. It lifts it above cliché. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sen

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:59:08 -, John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, something like that will appear this year. And it was "announced" by Pentax here: http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf From this roadmap I'd rather say it will be something like 50-220 with f-w

Re: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Thank you sir... I attempting to get back to photography... :-) Tom C. From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Aspens I Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:24:58 -0800 (PST) Has it all. Very pleasing! Jack --- Tom C <[EM

OT: Sky has fallen: Windows on Mac (PowerPC) (Was: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!)

2006-01-11 Thread Igor Roshchin
Well, not exactly Windows, but ... Just in case somebody didn't know, Microsoft had an OS for Mac hardware (PowerPC) up their sleaves: XBOX360 is running some MS-ish OS on PowerPC processors. See e.g. here: http://www.bit-tech.net/columns/2005/05/13/xbox_360_pc_enthusiasts/1.html Igor

Re: PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
Has it all. Very pleasing! Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taken on the same day as the Aspenglen photo. > > Pentax MX, M 50/1.8, Fuji Velvia. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4002547 > > Tom C. > > > __ Do You Ya

Re: OT: Nikon leaving film (mostly)

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2006-01-11, at 22:30, Mark Roberts wrote: Hmm. Looks like the 45mm f/2.8 is gone. Strange, it was AI-P lens, working even on low-end DSLRs like D50... And fairly recent, too. But it's a manual focus

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
People just need to put themselves in others shoes for a few moments. Any crime/alledged crime regardess of how despicable, should not be justification for further injustice being done. That injustice can be done, as stated earlier, by raising unjustified suspicion, or interfering in others l

Re: PDMLers in San Diego

2006-01-11 Thread Derek
Hopefully we will be able to have a PDML gather in San Diego in the not too distant future, and hopefully have more people show up than just the two of us. Derek -- Original message -- From: Igor Roshchin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:34:21 -0800

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 11/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>She has AOL now but isn't even *aware* that AOL includes email (I have >>no plans to enlighten her), so she's never sent or received any. > >She sounds a pretty good candidate for the Mac ;-) Hey, no need

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
UTTERLY! Jack --- Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where > the > judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4 > years > only 60 days in jail? The judge said that because vermont did not > have > a way of reha

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread frank theriault
On 1/11/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent, but as > you say, it's not a perfect system and we have to choose the least of many > evils. > I agree. Not that I want to fan the flames any further, but to me, an innocent perso

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Jack Davis
Nagging wife can be just as effective. Jack --- Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Castration, chemical or otherwise, does not guarantee any type of > prevention. But the tremendous reduction in testosterone is believed > to > help the offender control the impulses greatly. > > > Tom C wrot

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread DagT
Maybe you should do what I have managed to do, until now: ignore it. But my feelings about this is that the effects of false accusations are underestimated. They can really ruin someone's life. First, I think of the fact that I lived next to Oppenheimer´s widow in 1968, and think of what h

PESO - Aspens I

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Taken on the same day as the Aspenglen photo. Pentax MX, M 50/1.8, Fuji Velvia. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4002547 Tom C.

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >She has AOL now but isn't even *aware* that AOL includes email (I have >no plans to enlighten her), so she's never sent or received any. She sounds a pretty good candidate for the Mac ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > I found a few other free email services that >offer POP connections so I don't need the Gmail after all. That's a shame. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com __

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/06, Michael Spivak, discombobulated, unleashed: >So you do or you dont need one ? >seriously ? Well, I suppose I could be persuaded with drink. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >BTW: you might learn how to top post or bottom post consistent with >how a particular thread is going. Might make your expertise as a >computer professional more credible. yeah you big wuss ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O)

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/1/06, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: >And the video: >http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content LOL!! Excellent. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pasti

PESO: Diesel is dead

2006-01-11 Thread Francis
Of course you will probably be able to get small quantities from specialty labs at greatly inflated prices for the next twenty years or so, but the switch is inevitable. http://www.photosynth.ca/photo/f/the-demise-of-the-diesel.html (Taken with K200mm f2.5 and P3n this summer at the tall ships

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Certainly I do. It's a travesty. Tom C. From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Clarification: I feel the same way about the heinousness of the crime. Thats what I meant by I feel the same way. I'm not advocating convicting innocent people, nor throwing a net out that would result in the same,

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Gonz
Clarification: I feel the same way about the heinousness of the crime. Thats what I meant by I feel the same way. I'm not advocating convicting innocent people, nor throwing a net out that would result in the same, even if the crime is pretty bad. This case in Vermont, USA, tho, is pretty r

Re: OT: Nikon leaving film (mostly)

2006-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 2006-01-11, at 22:30, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Hmm. Looks like the 45mm f/2.8 is gone. > >Strange, it was AI-P lens, working even on low-end DSLRs like D50... And fairly recent, too. But it's a manual focus lens and that web page doesn't list it

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Christian
Mark Roberts wrote: Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: She's on AOL now and switching to a DSL service soon. Dammit. Taking food away from my children... How can she sleep at night? :-) (BTW, if she leaves AOL, her email is automagically converted to [username]

Re: OT: Nikon leaving film (mostly)

2006-01-11 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 2006-01-11, at 22:30, Mark Roberts wrote: Hmm. Looks like the 45mm f/2.8 is gone. Strange, it was AI-P lens, working even on low-end DSLRs like D50... And BTW - very good performer with nice build quality. -- Best regards Sylwek

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Well written Frank. Marnie for you to accuse me or othesr of having their heads in the sand, is just, well, plain insulting. Tom C. From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread frank theriault
On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This thread is making me incredibly angry. > > As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having their heads in > the sand. > > Or make some comments about mcps. Or something similar. > > Again, people seem to want to identify wit

Re: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Roberts wrote: >> She's on AOL now and switching to a DSL service soon. > >Dammit. Taking food away from my children... How can she sleep at >night? :-) > >(BTW, if she leaves AOL, her email is automagically converted to >[username] @ aim . com and s

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Maas
John Francis wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:12:31PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: If Windows was only available on as tightly-constrained a hardware platform as Macs, and had as few applications available for it, then it would be both as reliable and as consistent as the Mac is today. Windows su

Re: OT: Nikon leaving film (mostly)

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/releases/show.aspx?rid=201 Nikon's discontinuing LF lenses, Enlarger lenses and all film cameras except the F6 and FM10. Also almost all the AI-S lenses are being discontinued. Hmm. Looks like the

RE: My MX and my mood

2006-01-11 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Ok, I follow your lead and now I am also in a good mood. ~Thanks for the tip. Manuel -Mensagem original- De: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: terça-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2006 1:18 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: My MX and my mood I'm feeling pretty good right now and

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Jan 2006 at 12:40, John Francis wrote: > The US Justice system isn't designed to provide justice. > A better name would be Punishment & Revenge system. I think the law system and personal justice are divergent entities in most modern societies. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2

RE: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-11 Thread Jens Bladt
Beautiful bird shots, Jostein. It must bu nice to have that much Pentax glass "ahead" of you. Regards jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 10. januar 2006 19:14 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO - first sh

RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Very similar to what I just posted... read your thoughts after the fact, and I agree 100% Tom C. From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:23:45 - People who are wrongly accused of crimes ar

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
That's ridiculous but how would it justify accusing, trying, convicting and innocent person? Tom C. From: Gonz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:18:27 -0600 I feel the same way.

RE: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare?

2006-01-11 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Sure for both questions Manuel -Mensagem original- De: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: quarta-feira, 11 de Janeiro de 2006 14:20 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: OT: Anyone have a Gmail invi to spare? I know someone who wants one and I'll be seeing this person soon

Re: OT: Nikon leaving film (mostly)

2006-01-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.nikon.co.uk/press_room/releases/show.aspx?rid=201 > >Nikon's discontinuing LF lenses, Enlarger lenses and all film cameras >except the F6 and FM10. Also almost all the AI-S lenses are being >discontinued. Hmm. Looks like the 45mm f/2.8 is gone.

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
Would you feel the same way if you were wrongly accused? Think about it. What if I started writing slanderous things about you and they got put in the PDML archives for the world to see and read? What if some whacko tracked you down and reported you to the authorities. What if an investigat

Re: [OT] The sky is falling - Macs on Intel came!

2006-01-11 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 01:12:31PM -0500, Adam Maas wrote: > Christian, > > Given the relatively extreme inconsistency of the Windows UI, it would > take an essay to detail what a regular user of Mac OS X would find > annoying with Windows. Godfrey was refraining from getting into all the > det

RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Bob W
> > Until the justice system is 100% effective (which it never > ever can be, due to human error) we must avoid permanent > punishments, such as execution, castration, lobotomy, etc. > It's only humane... > unfortunately, taking people's time away from them is also permanent, but as you say,

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
What's the point? The fact that crimes are comitted does not justify comitting other "crimes" to catch the criminal. And if it's not the criminal who's caught, but an innocent person, what was accomplished? Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discu

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Tom C
LOL... seriously. Tom C. From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:09:04 -0500 I'd like to see some footnotes on their "facts". Don't think I'm insensitive, but ho

RE: PESO - first shots with 500/4.5

2006-01-11 Thread Tim Øsleby
Sure about that, you have seen my car ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11. janu

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Gonz
I feel the same way. Did you hear about the case in Vermont where the judge gave an offender who had been raping a 6 year old girl for 4 years only 60 days in jail? The judge said that because vermont did not have a way of rehabilitating the offender, that it was not worth keeping him in jail

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Gonz
Castration, chemical or otherwise, does not guarantee any type of prevention. But the tremendous reduction in testosterone is believed to help the offender control the impulses greatly. Tom C wrote: When you get right down to it... does any kind of castration guarantee that the offender won'

RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Bob W
People who are wrongly accused of crimes are also victims. Having sympathy for them in no way lessens the sympathy we feel for the principal victims of the crime, or suggests in any way that we tolerate paedophilia or sexual abuse. We want the right people to be tried and convicted. When that happe

20% of Pentax shares bought by Sparx (dunno what it is)

2006-01-11 Thread Thibouille
>From Pentax.co.jp: PENTAX Corporation has confirmed the possession of 25,572,000PENTAX shares ( 20.86% of total shares issued as of December 13, 2005) by SPARX Asset Management Co., Ltd ( JASDAQ listing 8739; President& CEO Shuhei Abe ) as an investment on behalf of its clients, afterreviewi

RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Bob W
Of course not. Otherwise it would be spelt huperbole. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 January 2006 19:11 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > On 1/11/06, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: Scary Condoleezza Eyes

2006-01-11 Thread Bob W
I would guess they run the files through a program that can detect patterns that indicate alterations. I doubt that they have humans looking at them. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 January 2006 12:46 > To: pentax-discuss@

Re: new AF system soon (when D2 arrives)?

2006-01-11 Thread John Whittingham
> Yes, something like that will appear this year. And it was > "announced" by Pentax here: > http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf > From this roadmap I'd rather say it will be something like 50-220 > with f-who-knows-probably-f4 :-) Aaaah the roadmap, I've seen that but it's al

Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded

2006-01-11 Thread Eactivist
This thread is making me incredibly angry. As a feminist is hard to resist ranting about people having their heads in the sand. Or make some comments about mcps. Or something similar. Again, people seem to want to identify with the wrongly accused instead of with the thousands and thousands of

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