>
> Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem
> to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question.
>
>
Collated for ease of reply, though there were also implicit questions and
examples of what was meant in the email.
- what is our commitment to
Hello guys,
Once more, the rules make a point to enforce politeness but they seem
to avoid things like having the respect to answer a honest question.
Could we thus have an answer to the ones aked by Therry ? Not ignoring
anybody is also part of elementary "friendliness".
Nathann
On 25 Novembe
> > > [Edited because this should be a family show]
>
> I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or
> androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition
> within the community.
>
> I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen
> > [Edited because this should be a family show]
I was trying to be sarcastic and make visible a risk for machismo or
androcracy that could follow from establishing some kind of competition
within the community.
I realize that the way i wrote those two lines somehow strengthen such
theses. I am
Hi,
On 24/11/2014 15:06, kcrisman wrote:
> It seemed to me that this was an attempt to provide some slightly less
> arbitrary measure than "the BDFL and whoever he likes" or "the release
> manager and his friends". I am pretty sure that there were calls to
> perhaps find a different measure. Natur
>
> Trac tickets and comments, however, are public. Thus, among the many
> good questions raised by Thierry which deserve an answer, I am also
> interested by the answer to the following question:
>
> I consider myself as a Sage developer, i have never heard about this
> initiative before. Cou
Hello,
> Realistically, that is not how we operate. Somebody opens a ticket, works on
> it, and then posts the result for review. I have found quite a number of
> random failures on the buildbot (tagged by the random_fail keyword:
> http://trac.sagemath.org/query?keywords=~random_fail) and nobody
> For example:
>
> - what is our commitment to free software ?
> - should we collaborate (fund, advertise,...) with closed proprietary
> software ?
> - how do we take decisions (equality, transparency, collaboration, taking
> care of minorities,...) ?
> - are there some reserved territories wit
> On 21/11/2014, at 18:54, William Stein wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Francois Bissey
> wrote:
>> I have abstained from the thread but read quite a bit of it and I think
>> that the idea there are really two issues is correct.
>>
>> I have been thinking for a while but abstained
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Francois Bissey
wrote:
> I have abstained from the thread but read quite a bit of it and I think
> that the idea there are really two issues is correct.
>
> I have been thinking for a while but abstained because there is a lot of
> stuff already on the thread and w
I have abstained from the thread but read quite a bit of it and I think
that the idea there are really two issues is correct.
I have been thinking for a while but abstained because there is a lot of
stuff already on the thread and we are at a stage where the signal/noise
is quite low. So anyway si
On Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:10:04 PM UTC-8, P Purkayastha wrote:
> Yes. Typically, they ban the user for a period of time. The violations are
> dealt with on a case-by-case basis. It seems quite a few requests (code of
> conduct violations, and otherwise) have piled up in
> http://forums.g
>
> [X ] Yes, this is a great idea. About time!
>
To a newcomer, some of the posts may make the Sage community look
aggressive and end up steering them in another direction.
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On Sun Nov 16 2014 at 12:44:39 AM Anne Schilling
wrote:
> On 11/15/14 7:32 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Friday, November 14, 2014 8:50:14 PM UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
> Microwave Ltd) wrote:
> >
> > On 13 November 2014 18:48, Volker Braun > wrote:
> > > and welcome every
On 15 November 2014 16:44, Anne Schilling wrote:
>> > Code of Conduct
>
> Thanks for the links to the guidelines. It is interesting to see how other
> communities handle this.
> Dave's question was how situations will be handled when a violation occurs or
> that are reported.
> Does your com
On 11/15/14 7:32 AM, P Purkayastha wrote:
>
>
> On Friday, November 14, 2014 8:50:14 PM UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
> Microwave Ltd) wrote:
>
> On 13 November 2014 18:48, Volker Braun > wrote:
> > and welcome everyone to
> > vote on it.
> >
> >
> > Code of Conduct
>
On Friday, November 14, 2014 8:50:14 PM UTC+8, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby
Microwave Ltd) wrote:
>
> On 13 November 2014 18:48, Volker Braun >
> wrote:
> > and welcome everyone to
> > vote on it.
> >
> >
> > Code of Conduct
> > ---
>
> > If you believe someone is violating the c
It had never occurred to me that such a thing would ever be necessary.
Any exclusions should be collective decisions not by some oligarchy,
and should allow for reinstatement if the perpetrators are contrite.
John
On 15 November 2014 08:49, Andrew wrote:
> In an ideal world I think that a code o
In an ideal world I think that a code of conduct would not be necessary.
Sadly, the world is not ideal.
I think that SImon's example of what happened with the German translation
project is a great example of why it would be good to have a code of
conduct: some one's comments turned him off work
On 13 November 2014 18:48, Volker Braun wrote:
> and welcome everyone to
> vote on it.
>
>
> Code of Conduct
> ---
> If you believe someone is violating the code of conduct, we ask that you
> report it by emailing sage-ab...@googlegroups.com. The group administrators
> will consider t
Hi William,
Am Donnerstag, 13. November 2014 20:00:58 UTC+1 schrieb William:
>
> [ ] No, I greatly value the freedom to spout offensive profanity, and
> will fork Sage in frustration if there is such a code.
I think you misunderstand the motivation for not wanting any published code
of conduct
To the extent that a code of conduct looks like an attempt to limit
freedom of speech, it may be counterproductive. It is possible to
legislate "politeness" by moderating newsgroups. I suppose it is
possible to resolve disagreements about the course of open software
development by
(a) achieving c
On Friday, November 14, 2014 3:55:34 AM UTC+1, Travis Scrimshaw wrote:
>
> Bullying can get so bad that the teachers need to step in and enact the
> correct punishment.
>
...yet, in my experience, they usually don't, and often because the bullies
are likable, or socially influential (e.g., son o
I agree with Travis that it is good to have guidelines that one can point
people to if discussions escalate. I agree that it is best to try to work
things out mutually, but this does not always seem possible. So ...
[X ] Yes, this is a great idea. About time!
Best,
Anne
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I believe we need to have such a code-of-conduct posted stating the
manner in which we should act. Like Jan and Simon, this should not be some
strict set of rules that gets referenced every time someone feels another
developer is out of line. By publishing such a code, we give explicit
guide
>
> > good to always aspire to better ourselves. Some of the Sage developers
> who
> > are better with words than me went ahead and stole a lot more, mostly
> from
> > Fedora (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct) and Django
> > (https://www.djangoproject.com/conduct), to formulate a "Cod
Hi
Great to have in place to refer to as an educational guideline (not to be
abused as strict rules).
It could also mention core values of Libre Software, with additional
emphasis on scientific transparency.
Regards,
Jan
On 13 November 2014 21:00, William Stein wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 a
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Volker Braun wrote:
> Can we create an environment... where character matters, hard work is
> respected, humility is valued, and support for one another is unconditional?
>
> I admittedly stole that quote, but only because I wholeheartedly agree it is
> good to al
Can we create an environment... where character matters, hard work is
respected, humility is valued, and support for one another is
unconditional?
I admittedly stole that quote, but only because I wholeheartedly agree it
is good to always aspire to better ourselves. Some of the Sage developers
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