Yet another reminder why Lisp scoping rules and my feeble lexical brain
don't mesh. I have no opinion as to why or if it's a good thing (Tm) but
it'll burn us old school non Lispers.
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 05:15 -0400, MenTaLguY wrote:
> I wasn't terribly clear. Let me rephrase -- if you do this:
I don't want to ignite a UI war but I don't want app's changing those
keys (volume, CD eject and various Linux key chords to get a console or
restart X) It doesn't seem like a Shoes priority to me. If you can find
or make a cross platform hook into all the OS external event streams and
rubyize it a
Hi,
This may not help, but what I've done is something like this to enter
a string
@el = edit_line @outMB, :width => 40 do
@outMB = @el.text
# call your function here
end
Attach the block to the edit_line and don't worry about keypress
(unless you really need key by key actio
I vaguely remember a huh? like you report. I don't have OS X anymore so
I can't test. On Linux I use a construct like
> button "Save As..." do
> fn = ask_save_file
> if fn and fn.length > 0
> #puts "Setting new file #{fn}"
>
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:09 -0500, _why wrote:
>
> So, yeah, good work folks. I try to scan all the threads here, but
> it is even harder during the summer.
>
> _why
Technically, it's not summer yet in the upper hemisphere. Not that the
weather or climate cares what we think.
t; designated web service. This is instead of requiring the user to
> >> upload
> >> gigabytes of data and it eliminates (or reduces) the need for a
> >> transcoding
> >> farm. I think it would be benificial for lots of small sites that
> >> requir
nloading files
> - seem cleaner. I will have a look and see how it goes. It might lead
> me to automating other aspects of the build process as well once I see
> how the packaging works.
>
> Thanks!
> Noah
>
> On May 22, 2009, at 8:44 PM, Cecil Coupe wrote:
>
>
r one could read the docs for binject. Where that
pack.rb is on your system and which copy of shoes you are using if you
have multiples...
Just something to look at.
--Cecil
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:00 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote:
> It might be easier to debug and fix the problem than imp
It might be easier to debug and fix the problem than implement a
workaround, IMHO. It looks like most of the action starts in
lib/shoes/pack.rb - I don't have an OS X box anymore so I can't be very
helpful. Might be an easy fix if you can find all the parts.
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 21:24 -0500, Ro
If your Linux has a package manager that installs the dependencies
compiled against the other libraries and kernel on your system, I'd use
it. I wouldn't depend on the tar inside of a .deb to be good for you --
you'll never know where the problems are if by chance it should almost
work.
It's a lo
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 12:23 +0800, niedh wrote:
> thanks to Mark Vander Voord
> I had already install the libsqlite3-dev and sqlite3-ruby
> when i use sqlite3 without shoes ,it works fine
>
> my ruby is not the "apt-get" version, I compiled from the source,is this
> the problem?
Shoes ruby and ge
Hi folks,
I'm writing an app that loads and edits and saves some some text lines
(CSV) to a file. I put up a Shoes stack, with a flow for each line in
the file with a checkbox in front. Works fine.
Until I use 'code' instead of 'para'. The text isn't displayed for
'code', yet no errors in the
I hate when figure it out right after I ask for help.
vist() creates a new Shoes object doesn't it? Sorry to bend the ear of
the mailing list.
Hi all,
I started writing a Wizard like configuration GUI (see attachment)
It switches back and fro between screens using visit just fine. Oddly
the, @ vars disappear. [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my script]. Is that a bug or my
misunderstanding? Or the shifting definition of self.
I can use $globals t
try 'rake VIDEO=1' (works for me)
You'll need to get rake and gems installed in Ubuntu if you haven't
already. More importantly, you should install vlc and 'libvlc0-dev'
The Makefile has always been pretty iffy on Linux. Setting up a
directory and cloning (pull) from _why's git will get you the Ra
This isn't an answer, just something to try.
Add a stack to your a height and width. Last I played with VLC and
shoes(unbuntu), it won't play if it doesn't have screen real estate. I
should file a bug but there were other problems of mine.
--Cecil
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 02:05 -0400, Mike Richar
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 23:20 -0500, _why wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 08:10:44PM -0700, Jeff Hodges wrote:
> > I know Shoes writes directly to a canvas which makes this difficult, but is
> > there any way to hint that a textblock should be copy and pastable? Or,
> > perhaps more accurately, a
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 00:21 -0400, Seth Thomas Rasmussen wrote:
> I dunno about you guys, but I've had a handful or so of messages in
> various threads arriving out of order for me lately. The first message
> in the recent thread about presenting tabular data just hit me
> recently after I received
> I don't know how Shoes
> is supposed to handle Unicode, but doesn't Ruby not handle Unicode
> well or something?
>
Unicode and Ruby is complicated. Ruby may (or may not) mishandle it. The
choice of font's in Shoes and your choice of default font and your
system's fallback mechanism for handling
. Shoe's has it's own switches (-h, --gem x y
z ... ) that it needs to parse first. Being a cross platform GUI app,
I'm wondering how the argument parsing should work in Shoes, in Windows.
Actually, I'm wondering if it has to work at all. It is a GUI, no?
--Cecil
>
> mar
Shoes doesn't use your installed Ruby. It's its own thing, not an
addition to your Ruby. A different, local, 'shoes' variety of Ruby with
different rules.
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 22:53 -0700, Martin DeMello wrote:
> $ cat testargv.rb
> p ARGV
>
> $ shoes testargv.rb
> ["testargv.rb"]
>
> $ ruby te
FWIW,
Here's how I deal with gems. One, I don't "install" shoes on my Linux
box, I build from git and run it from the command line of a terminal
app. That might not match what you want.
There's a switch -g (or --gem ) on the shoes command line that allows
gem commands to be passed and Shoes
> It should be possible to add shoes to your {gnome, kde, fwm, %s} desktop
> tools, but I don't know how in general.
> >
> > mentally adjusting here...
In Gnome, right-click on the desktop menu bar -->Add To Panel. You can
right-click an existing icon look and look at the properties to see how
it
martin,
From my experiments, there appears to be one (or two in Ubuntu) click
handlers. The x,y are for the top Shoes window and not relative to the
flow/stack that the handler is attached to. In that case two handlers in
Linux is probably a bug.
For your purpose (and mine), one handler sucks b
I'm not saying I know anything or understand Shoes/Gems interactions
but wouldn't the 'other' scripts just need 'require rubygems' and then
'require foo'?
Works for me but I install gems in Shoes from the command line 'shoes -g
install x'. If you're running shoes from a not 'installed' directo
> They aren't documented because I'm not happy with draw(). It can be
> severely misused. When I was writing the Cascade example, I kept
> running into awful recursion problems.
Yep, I've seen those segfaults myself. I understand how 'draw' is a word
that means something different to other fo
nted.
>
>
> As for the second question, I haven't verified it myself, but would
> #repaint_all meet your needs?
That would be nice, but from inside a widget's method I get a 'no
method' error for repaint_all, but I know where to look now for my
clues.
>
>
Does anybody know what those two args to Widget.draw() are?
Or the magic method name for triggering a repaint on a stack/flow? In a
Widget?
--Cecil
Instead of inventing my own, perhaps you have one to share that I could
modify or inspect. I'm writing a Shoes app that kind of mimics iTunes or
Rhythmbox music players. Not that anyone wants another music player.
It's just an exercise to see how far I can push Shoes with my limited
skills.
I'm l
I pulled 838 from git and the rake/compile failed
shoes/native/gtk.c:12:23: error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory
I copied /usr/include/curl/curl.h over to to shoes/native and it
compiles now.
--Cecil
What would be really nice is a back button/link in the manual
pages/menus. Sometimes you follow a link to read more about a topic and
the only way to get back is a top down click and scroll fest to get back
to where you used to be before that last click, assuming you can
remember how you got there.
Never mind. I found the master list in the Shoes manual (duh), right
their on the left side base. I like where this is leading.
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 02:18 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote:
> Awesome. I think.
>
> I'll need a hint on how to invoke the new magic. The magic word or
If you know Ruby, you can read Python (or vice versa), enough to get the
gist of what's going on. Hash is a python dictionary. Array is a python
list, 'self' has to be explicitly added to class/method definitions
because there's no @instance or @@class syntax. Python is quite readable
though.
Tra
Awesome. I think.
I'll need a hint on how to invoke the new magic. The magic word or key
chord is? From the "git pull" I see that you've modified the files I
would expect you'd have to.
Just a gentle clue stick, _why. OK?
--Cecil
>
> Completely with you on this. I've just checked in som
current ri or html output (i.e. Fire up a irb console inline to try
> out the code as you're reading about it).
>
> -Josh
>
>
> On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:09 PM, Cecil Coupe wrote:
>
> > Bad form to reply to my own message. Sorry.
> >
> > A shoes command
Shoes approachability for the target audience.
--Cecil
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 21:34 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote:
> A master inheritance chart with links would be very nice! It doesn't
> have to be searchable, that's a non-issue for that view of the API,
> imho. I don't
A master inheritance chart with links would be very nice! It doesn't
have to be searchable, that's a non-issue for that view of the API,
imho. I don't know that my skills are up to the task so I won't
volunteer to write it.
I have been experimenting with a tiny script that copies the ruby.c into
With all due respect for _why and the "Manual" and NKS, I'm a bit "show
me the reference manual." Who inherits from who? What methods and vars
are exposed in each class? What overrides who? I'm just wired that way,
I need that structure to understand.
So I spent a few hours with rdoc on shoes/ruby
Using the Shoes manual, clicking in the scrollbar area doesn't move it
up/down. Pageup/down keys have know effect. Dragging with the mouse does
work, as does the scroll wheel. (Ubuntu 8.04)
Hi,
There's an odd bug with ask_open_file in the attached script. When the
"Select WXR " button is pressed the resulting dialog never completes
drawing and consumes all the cpu. Nothing on the console or commandline
to help debug this. samples/simple-dialog.rb DOES work as expected
however. I'm
all the API's you can imagine
and all the control you desire. Even then, I don't think 'self' changes
based on the event.
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 23:11 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote:
> Because 'self' is Shoes. You run within Shoes. Think how it work work
> otherwise.
Because 'self' is Shoes. You run within Shoes. Think how it work work
otherwise.
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 14:16 +1000, Bluebie, Jenna wrote:
> Why can't I do self.checked? inside a check's click block doodad? I
> find it confusing that I have to assign the check to a varaible and
> then use the
When dealing with Shoes one needs to remember it's a self contained Ruby
runtime, completely unrelated to whatever version of Ruby you have on
your box or which gems you have installed.
Shoes is it own environment. It's not full Ruby, it's only partial Ruby.
It evals your script within the selecti
I hit send too soon. In OS X, there's another environment variable,
DYN_LOAD_LIBRARY (?) or something like that
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 01:24 -0600, Cecil Coupe wrote:
> Wouldn't you have to put the native shared library (.so, .dylib,
> what-ev) in a shoes accessible libload pa
Wouldn't you have to put the native shared library (.so, .dylib,
what-ev) in a shoes accessible libload path? Its the back door to
madness IMO, totally non portable, but sometimes setting the environment
LD_LIBRARY_PATH properly won't screw up everything else on your system
as well. Once bitten (So
I decided to do a little Ruby coding on preferences/config files for
Shoes scripts. It's far from perfect but its a reasonable start. It
works for me on Ubuntu Linux 8.04. The Windows and OS X parts aren't
coded (your help is solicited - can't be that hard if you know where the
files should go)
Th
Hi,
With all due respect for chasers of coolness (we need you idealists)
Applications preferences are different from serializing the users's meta
data with the document's meta-data together. Not the same. It's
completely application specific but that's up to you where the line is
drawn. Or shou
> --
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
> Shoes 24-hour Worldwide Code-a-thons on July 11th and July 25th
>
[snip]
That looks pretty good to me. You got most, if not all of the goals
translated into PR-speak that developers will read. Not easy to do.
Well done.
--Cecil
Sam,
I recommend a tiny rethink about your problem. I see two issues.
Populating the sqlite db is one and display it is another. Why use one
process to do both?
Ruby thread goodness (or lack of) is a bit of unwarranted FUD. If you
look hard enough, my name is on some of that old wxWindows code.I
I kind of liked the effect on my peculiar app when the r605 widgets
hovered over a scrolling area after resizing ;^) Yes, I saw it's was a
bug and even happier you fixed before I had to describe it. Kudo's!
I'm happy to report that r608 works even better for me in Ubuntu 8.04.
r605 in XP has some
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 17:21 -0500, _why wrote:
> Okay, discovered this was causing by too much repositioning of the
> controls. A fix is up at github. Pleasingly enough, this also
> fixed the open/save dialogs.
>
> _why
There might be more to do on the layout code. Resizing the top level
window
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 17:21 -0500, _why wrote:
> Okay, discovered this was causing by too much repositioning of the
> controls. A fix is up at github. Pleasingly enough, this also
> fixed the open/save dialogs.
>
> _why
It works for me. Thank you.
I don't know if this is one problem or two different problems. Most of
the sample scripts take 100% of one core's cycles. Roughly 65% for shoes
and 35% for Xorg. (Unbuntu 8.04, Gnome 2.2). From startup to hours at
idle later, it uses everything. samples/expert-irb.rb doesn't so that's
a clue.
Ther
Hi all,
I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, AMD_64 and ask_open_file() fails for all the
shoes rev's I've tried (many versions, from Curious to r594). Seems to
work in XP though.
I can reproduce the problem with samples/simple-dialog.rb. Just click
the button to open a file and I get a gnome dialog (em
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