Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > I was once told by one of the style developers that the layer tag is not > used in the standard rendering on osm.org. Only the size of the area's > matter. > I can confirm that using a layer tag does impact rendering of landuse. -- @osm_sea

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Flow Direction

2015-10-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > I am finding some false positives, typically short segments of road. Twice > I've see it between to side roads and once when the highway changed from a > bridge to a secondary with a side road just a short distance from the &

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic Flow Direction

2015-10-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I saw this and I was really hoping it would be for how to tag hints for > data consumers about two way roads that were formerly one-way but still > have the lights set as a one-way green-wave. In cities with declining > motor vehicle traffi

[OSM-talk] Traffic Flow Direction

2015-10-30 Thread Clifford Snow
Martijn, I like your new challenge, Traffic Flow Direction [1] I am finding some false positives, typically short segments of road. Twice I've see it between to side roads and once when the highway changed from a bridge to a secondary with a side road just a short distance from the bridge. Makes m

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Missing Roads - The missing manual

2015-10-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Can you run a count by state of "missing roads?" I can't believe that > Washington State has none, but nothing shows up. My mistake. Set filter to show solved. Now I see the errors! -- @osm_seattle osm_s

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Missing Roads - The missing manual

2015-10-17 Thread Clifford Snow
Martijn, Can you run a count by state of "missing roads?" I can't believe that Washington State has none, but nothing shows up. Thanks, Clifford On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks first of all for giving the Missing Roads plugin / tool a try. It > sound

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-08 Thread Clifford Snow
Looks like I need to find a different route, something easier. What I picked looked easy, only 4 stops, but over 100km long. My plan is to do as suggested, a relationship for each direction. When done, I'll look at a master relation for all. So two questions: 1) When looking at the bus routes in

[OSM-talk] Bus Routes

2015-10-07 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm trying to add my first bus route. I'm struggling to understand how to properly add the relation. The route, like most bus routes, loops back over the same ways. So my questions: If the bus travels over the same way going two different directions, is the way added twice to the relationship, whi

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and shapefile rendering

2015-09-30 Thread Clifford Snow
I haven't tried this with a shapefile but I set my inactive color to a bright green, #00ff00. Very easy to trace an object in the background. Clifford On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > Blake, > > Thanks for the clever tips. I will try what you suggested. > > Mike > > On W

Re: [OSM-talk] A big debate about OSM quality in Strava community

2015-09-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > Feedback thread on Strava is here: > > > https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/95423147-Feedback-for-Strava-s-new-maps-OpenStreetMap-?page=5#post_39574047 > >From the feedback, it seems that users are complaining about 1. Lack of Street View

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Never mind, Maproulette took me to different task that was completed. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > Martijn, > I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true? > Less than 22 hours after you announced it? > > It is amazing what th

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Martijn, I just checked and it appears the challenge is complete. Is that true? Less than 22 hours after you announced it? It is amazing what the community can accomplish is a very short time. Clifford On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hi all, > > Partly inspired by Go

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with JOSM and OS X Yosemite

2015-07-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Suzan Reed wrote: > I’ve tried all the usual fixes in the preferences, but can not get JOSM to > connect with the server on my new Mac running OS X Yosemite. It may be a > system thing. Anyone out there that can help? > Suzan, It doesn't look like anyone has tri

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey Results for the thread "Some thoughts against remote mapping"

2015-06-20 Thread Clifford Snow
s welcoming > to women...since there aren't that many in OSM to even take the survey. > > -Kate > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> The issue raised by Frederik Ramm was, to paraphrase Ben Abelshausen, an >> interesting topic and

[OSM-talk] Survey Results for the thread "Some thoughts against remote mapping"

2015-06-20 Thread Clifford Snow
The issue raised by Frederik Ramm was, to paraphrase Ben Abelshausen, an interesting topic and certainly a lot of people wanted to contribute to the discussion. I was impressed by the positive tone taken by participants in the conversation. To me that bodes well for our community. Frederik raises

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-19 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: > That's a great idea! It could help build community but also make it easier > to check edits to make sure they are ok. Maybe this could be built into one > of the QA/QC tools? I may be missing something but "Who Did It" [1] is available to

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-17 Thread Clifford Snow
This Friday night I'm going to close out the quick, three question survey on remote mapping thread. If you haven't answered the survey already, go to https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TRQYHFP to answer the three questions. Clifford On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > O

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Thread Clifford Snow
Following this thread makes me wonder how people feel about some of the issues raised. The link below is quick survey about some of the issues raised in the thread. Please take a minute or two to respond. If I get sufficient answers I will publish the results. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TRQYHF

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

2015-06-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers > > 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a > README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup > a dialog saying something along the lines of > > W

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting routing problems

2015-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > Yes, I did it. But it means it's another complexity to consider when > reporting problems with their engine. > > I don't know how open.mapquest.org routing service is different (in terms > of routing code) from what we have on OSM website, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Dave Corley wrote: > On the first point, why not? There are maps of the world in English, > French, German etc etc. I see no logical reason to object to "certain" > languages being used in the name tag. That is the whole point of the > flexibility of that tag. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting routing problems

2015-05-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > User wouldn't know it and that's why I proposed also a note. We > (OSM+routing providers) should resolve it or reject if this is not the real > problem or it's too hard/too esoteric (#WONTFIX), but there should be an > easy way of reporting IMO

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki link to Mailing lists and IRC on Get Help Page

2015-05-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > While not totally on topic, I would like to point out that the Help tab > on openstreetmap.org contains direct links to the mailing lists, forums > etc. (since a couple of weeks) making having them far up in the > hierarchy on the wiki less of

[OSM-talk] Wiki link to Mailing lists and IRC on Get Help Page

2015-05-25 Thread Clifford Snow
Mailing Lists were removed from the Get Help page of the wiki. The article still exists but is not longer referenced in the Get Help page. Instead mailing lists are referenced in Contact Channels along with IRC. I'd like to propose we add them back to the Get Help page. I suggest that when people a

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapillary plugin for JOSM

2015-05-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:16 PM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > Looking forward to the josm plugin and the merging/locating of signs :) +1 - I got so excited that I purchased a new cell phone mount from GeekWire to replace my defective old mount. -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStr

Re: [OSM-talk] Event Calendar on Wiki

2015-04-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > I added an event ("OSM Basics @ Colorado State University...") to the wiki > (by editing the "calendar" template as the instructions state), yet it > doesn't show up on the main wiki page with the other events. Did I do > something wrong?

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to find nodes within given way outlines?

2015-04-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > I've asked around several times, but never found an answer. > > What's the best way to do intersection queries on OSM data.? > > For example: find all amenity=fuel inside of an airport polygon. > The following example works to find all artw

Re: [OSM-talk] how do i get a mapper to engage with the community over mass imports?

2015-04-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Robin Paulson wrote: > i live in auckland, nz. a mapper [1] here is currently importing a giant > data set of building outlines for auckland, by my estimate 300,000+ ways. > until yesterday, on my insistence, he'd made no mention of this on any of > the relevant d

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Warnings Posted on Beaches

2015-03-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Also good to map the operator of the sign, if known. > Random beach dude posting "rip tide" on driftwood is a bit different (more > credible perhaps) than > a sign placed by the coastal commission. > The operator was already added. I agree

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Warnings Posted on Beaches

2015-03-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > The problem with hazard is that's you saying there's a hazard, based > primarily on the evidence on the sign. > Seems more "map what's on the ground" to map the sign text, then add a key > indicating some semantic meaning > (e.g. traffic sig

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Warnings Posted on Beaches

2015-03-21 Thread Clifford Snow
I ended up tagging riptides as hazard=riptide Hazard has over 1,000 uses and a defunct proposal page. On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Sign, sign, everywhere a. sign. > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign is very specific to > roads. > It would seem there

[OSM-talk] Tagging Warnings Posted on Beaches

2015-03-20 Thread Clifford Snow
I came across a beach with a sign warning swimmers of rip tides. How can I tag the beach with the warning? -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.opens

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > As far as I know, we don't have a policy on which tags to include in > the rendering, and there is currently no consensus within the > development team on what the best policy would be. Personally I'm > trying to steer towards requiring

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > Just as a clarification, this is for voting on what it takes to indicate a > tag is approved on the wiki. It is not about if a tag is approved for use, > as there is no such thing. > > No approval is needed to create a new tag, to render a tag

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Clifford Snow
Alex, Our friends on the other side of the pond like to point out that we have many poorly and unmapped areas. I'm sure we all agree that their assessment is correct. Solving this problem should be one of our highest priorities. Two solutions come to mind, increase the number of imports and growing

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Partial Website + API outage

2015-03-09 Thread Clifford Snow
+1 On Mar 9, 2015 2:39 PM, "Richard Weait" wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Grant Slater > wrote: > > All servers are now back to normal. > > > Thank you, Admin Super Heroes. :-) > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://l

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Roulette

2015-03-03 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > I am trying to use Map Roulette for the Fix Waterway Direction challenge. > It seems that after processing a couple of issues, it fails to advance to > the next issue. I am using Chrome and editing in JOSM. Does anyone have > any idea what

Re: [OSM-talk] spammy "survey" questions.

2015-03-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > I'm no fan researchers sending messages to OpenStreetMap users via the > messaging system. I consider them an intrusion. And I've complained > about them here, before. There is another one making the rounds. > Seems like there are more of

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: > I've already used it to fix three routing problems (an overly long > oneway, an access=no that no longer applied, and a bidirectional > motorway). Except they're not active. They haven't fixed anything. The > routing is still wrong. Look: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey

2015-02-17 Thread Clifford Snow
rg/user/TheDutchMan13 > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Clifford Snow > wrote: > >> Paul, >> When I get home later today I'll email a USGS employee I know. He can >> probably suggest who I can contact.

Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey

2015-02-17 Thread Clifford Snow
; >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Paul Johnson >> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Clifford Snow >>> wr

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > My first quick test in Kent yielded a route (about 6 miles) which while > perfectly viable, no-one in their right mind would take. But that is > probably more of a quirk of OSRM than anything else. Maybe some investigating as to why the rou

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-16 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks to all those involved in adding routing to OSM. Routing is a major enhancement to OSM. As Rob said, it will help us fix mapping errors that we may not have noticed without the feature. Thanks, Clifford On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Congratulations to all those

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Andrew Wiseman wrote: > People who want to edit a map are generally nice people. +1 -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Domino's rebranding

2015-02-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Dominos.com has dropped "Pizza" from their name as of today, and TV > commercials in heavy rotation feature literally blowing up a Domino's Pizza > sign and replacing it with just "Domino's," with the narration extolling > heavily that they're

Re: [OSM-talk] Domino's rebranding

2015-02-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > OK, so not sure about other markets, but at least in the US, Domino's > Pizza has renamed itself to just Domino's. Which presents a few issues, > since they're not just pizza (they also do subs and wings, so I'm not even > sure how to cuisine

[OSM-talk] Swale (landform)

2015-02-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Has anyone mapped a swale [1], which is a long, narrow, and usually shallow trough for rainwater filtration? I ran across one yesterday which I mapped as a natural=water, intermittent=yes and water=swale. Is there is a better tag for the feature? You can see it rendered on [2] below. Pictures of t

Re: [OSM-talk] Usage without attribution: US Geological Survey

2015-01-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > Found it here while checking out a nearby earthquake I was notified > about... > http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000tiqz#general_map > > The "Street" layer of the map is very clearly taking tiles from Mapquest > Open (spo

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:10 AM, JB wrote: > I have nothing against bicycle repair stations. Really. But, just in > France, how many databases do we have that are as worth as this one ? > Post offices, monuments, schools… Do we want to create some hundreds, > thousands of notes for these? > PS:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:27 AM, JB wrote: > Ho crap. Instead of importing 500 low-quality POI, just import 500 > low-quality notes… > So that only the notes DB is a dump, but not the main one. > Sorry for the bad energy, but please do not consider the note feature as a > second level one. And fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:09 AM, JB wrote: > > Sorry, but I read there (same page, paragraph 3a, seems you stopped > reading too early) : > *For a **browsable electronic map** (e.g. embedded in a web page or > mobile phone application), the credit should appear in the corner of the > map, as commo

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Clifford Snow
d. Hopefully > it will be fixed soon. > > What I say when I send messages like this stresses the fact that we aren't > just copyright pedants but that we view the attribution as a way to help us > build our community which will in turn lead to a better map for them. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Omaha World-Herald using OSM without attribution

2014-12-17 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, JB wrote: > > Don't want to start a battle here, but I thought best practises where « © > OSM contributors » directly on the map, clearly visible? I don't see > anything close to that today, even with the big map they have on their site. > https://www.geocaching.co

Re: [OSM-talk] Some tools to help community-driven imports

2014-12-06 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 9:56 PM, Guillaume Pratte < guilla...@guillaumepratte.net> wrote: > ## Splitting .osm files for the HOT Tasking Manager > > We are planning to use the HOT Tasking Manager for our import. To ease > importing the generated .osm dataset into JOSM (for manual reconciliation > wi

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > A rendering demo can be found here (left the current rendering, right > the proposal): > http://bl.ocks.org/pnorman/raw/c61d6b11193081910866/#15.00/50.0611/19.9393 > http://bl.ocks.org/pnorman/raw/c61d6b11193081910866/#14.00/40.7048/-74.

Re: [OSM-talk] 176k Wikidata tags to add to OSM

2014-11-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > So far I've included comments from August and November. > I need to review the Sep-Oct comments on talk mailing list. > Nice. I'd add two items. First, a test case against a small subset to validate the scripts and second, recommendation to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Fix a Forest - experimental tiles from US Forest Service data

2014-11-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Hope these are helpful, and let me know of any further suggestions. Richard, Thanks for doing this. The selection of color and lines make for quick addition. Suggestion - set the tile background to transparent so we can see underlyin

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Congratulations to the NYC mappers on a great proposal. I know it must have been outstanding since you beat us out! Good luck. I look forwarding to going to SOTM-US in NYC. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [OSM-talk] The Working Groups need you!

2014-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
and may be > OpenSTV for validation. He may need help, drop him or me line. > > From my memory, (which can be suspect), Clifford, I think you may be > referring to the Future now aka Strategic Working Group? We felt that to be > a bit of an exception due to the nature of the remit.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Working Groups need you!

2014-10-27 Thread Clifford Snow
The answer is yes you need to be a member of the foundation. At least it was when we were attempting to create a new group. This for create problems for those that the annual dues are unaffordable. A work around would be nice. Clifford On Oct 27, 2014 9:33 AM, "Matthijs Melissen" wrote: > On 27

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Kate Chapman wrote: > I actually don't think it makes sense for the membership to approach > things by passing a bunch of resolutions requiring the board to do things. > I think certainly a drastic resolution like dismantling the entire board > and starting again

Re: [OSM-talk] Postponing elections, or other alternatives (Was: Modus operandi of the board)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > If we don't manage to get a board majority to postpone the whole thing, > there's something else we could do at least: Ask those who stand for > election to commit to calling a new GM within a certain time frame, and > offer the membership a

Re: [OSM-talk] Addresses are a tiny fraction of what we do (was: The world’s best addressable map)

2014-10-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > We'd still need to survey in order to do the maintenance work and correct > errors. That's the main reason why imports are often seen as problematic: > they will not create a comunity, rather there are indications that the > growth of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 8:23 AM, Kathleen Danielson < kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com> wrote: > What if we had some sort of compromise, and we asked the membership if we > could hold another AGM in 3 months, followed 2 weeks (or so) later by an > election? We've already talked about decoupling it fro

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:56 AM, wrote: > I'm adding OSMF-talk since it concerns what I outlined in the > original “vision statement” email. > > I was perhaps too specific and jumped ahead saying “world’s best > addressable map”. > > What I really mean is the “world's most complete open map”. The

[OSM-talk] The world’s best addressable map

2014-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
Steve Coast suggested changing the mission statement of OSM to be something like “The world’s best addressable map” I thought I'd separate out this into a new thread. As some backup, I attended my first SOTM-US in 2012 where Steve proposed we build an addressable map. A group of us from Seattle dec

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:59 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > It would be nice to know how many of the buildings and house numbers in > OSM were imported versus surveyed / drawn by hand. I have a bad feeling > about how feasible it is to crowd surf house numbers. I think Steve is asking to focus on buil

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Modus operandi of the board

2014-10-21 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Kate Chapman wrote: > One issue is we really have no idea what the OSMF membership wants. We > know what some vocal people who write English well want. What a lot of > communities do to determine this is have a yearly community survey. Simply > voting for board me

[OSM-talk] Nexus 5 - No GPS - Fix

2014-09-07 Thread Clifford Snow
I want to pass along a fix I found for no gps on my Nexus 5. Neither Mapillary nor OSM Tracker worked. Mapillary said it couldn't get a gps fix. After searching it turns out that my back cover wasn't completely snapped shut on one corner. Snapping it back in place fixed the problem. Just one little

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap-carto upgrade, new features, interesting issues

2014-09-06 Thread Clifford Snow
Thanks Paul and to all those that are working on this. Clifford On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > After a delay for hardware reasons (a drive having issues in a rendering > server), the "Standard" stylesheet on OpenStreetMap.org has been > upgraded to v2.20.0 of openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-31 Thread Clifford Snow
There seems to be two threads to this conversation. 1) Will the import/mechanical edit be of high quality and 2) do we want a link to Wikidata. Skipping the technical aspects of connecting OSM with Wikidata I like to focus on do we want to link to Wikidata. From the number of wikidata links in tag

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:51 AM, OSMR wrote: > We understand that as a member of multiple lists some OSM contributors may > have received the survey invitation more than once and that may have felt > like a disrespectful attempt to impose on one's personal time and inbox > space. That was defin

Re: [OSM-talk] Detrimental to the OSM database

2014-08-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > > http://openstreetmap.us/iD/release/#background=Bing&map=17.00/-83.15249/36.43657 > is the one I'm currently on and leaving as it's impossible to see any > detail in iD ... how do people cope with the dark images? Lester, I believe you can

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Clifford Snow
I had the same issue. It stopped being about OSM. Which made me suspect that his intent was other than what was announced. I'd be willing to help the OP if he was agreeable to suggestions. Clifford Typos by tablrt On Aug 19, 2014 11:15 AM, "Lester Caine" wrote: > On 19/08/14 17:47, OSMR wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Saudi Arabia?

2014-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Osama Khalid wrote: > I noticed that the maps on Saudi Arabia are fairly accurate and more > rich than I thought, but I couldn't find a mailing list for > contributors from Saudi Arabia and the self-identified users from > Saudi Arabia seem to be inactive. > > 1.

Re: [OSM-talk] Using unit tags

2014-08-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Nathan Mixter wrote: > Is there any way we can start using the addr:unit tag for buildings? This > was approved several years ago but it still doesn't render yet. If both the > addr:housenumber and addr:unit tags are used, the housenumber tag is still > dominant. T

[OSM-talk] Early History of OSM

2014-08-04 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm looking for some images of early OSM maps. Thanks to Martijn Exel, we have http://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#10/52.2644/5.2899, the Then and Now from 2007 to current. But I'd really like some images of the very earliest OSM maps. As many others are doing, Seattle is holding an anniversary ce

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] IR boundary tagging

2014-07-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: > > I'd say make the changes at the city admin level for these reasons. The > tribal nations are viewed by the courts as territories but they tend to act > more at the city[4] to county[3] COG [1] level. The squabbles feel more > like cities f

Re: [OSM-talk] Drones

2014-07-24 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > I'm curious to know if any OSM groups are currently running their own > drones for imagery. In Iceland we have been looking longingly at the eBee > https://www.sensefly.com/drones/ebee.html but so far haven't started > fundraising

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a name!

2014-06-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Open Historical Map which already has a website www.openhistoricalmap.org On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: > A few OSM members interested in historic maps are working on our own > version of the New York Public Library "Building Inspector". If you've not > yet tried it out,

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed repeated mechanical edit: Empty relations

2014-06-16 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > > Before actually conducting the edit, I want to see what editors were used, > and submit bug reports if there's any regular problems. I'm curious, can you get a count of empty relations by editor and age? Basically, current, and then yearly

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
OpenStreetMap Code of Conduct === I'd like to keep this effort going. Who out there is interested in helping taking the draft CoC through to acceptance? Clifford > -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch __

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I think we should extend this a bit, and instead of having a "Code of > Conduct" we shold have a document that says "How to be a good mapper". > This would include the standard elements of a code of conduct - e.g. > about courtesy, respect, a

[OSM-talk] Data Working Group (DWG) and Imports

2014-06-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Two recent events seem to have gone beyond reasonable discourse. The Dutch address imports and the addition of 5 US Bike Routes (USBR.) Unfortunately, these are not isolated instances. The mailing lists discussions have spiraled down to include personal attacks. I've chosen to use the subject DWG

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-30 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Alan McConchie wrote: > Leavenworth is a former logging town that has been turned into a mock > Bavarian village as a tourist attraction. So I'm not surprised that they > are adding "Weg" to their streets to seem more Germanic. I've been to Leavenworth a number

Re: [OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
Clay Smalley > wrote: > >> "Weg" is German, approximately means "way." It's right as it is, no >> abbreviation. >> >> Funny though that it's outside of the German Sprachraum. Is Leavenworth a >> town with a lot of German heritage? &

[OSM-talk] Street Name

2014-05-29 Thread Clifford Snow
I need help with a street name. In Leavenworth, WA there is a street named "Edelweiss Weg" that I want to add. Is Weg an abbreviation for something? It will be tagged highway=service service=alley. Google translate doesn't help. If it is an abbreviation, should it be expanded as we usually do? Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Visualizing mapping history of an area

2014-05-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Arun Ganesh wrote: > The area of interest is a small town called Talasari, north of Mumbai [2]. > The students had very low experience with computers and most had to start > from creating email ids. The area was blank a couple of months ago, so it > will be interes

Re: [OSM-talk] Taginfo Updates

2014-05-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: > Taginfo got an update with lots of new features: Maps for tags, easy > comparison > of keys/tags, better integration with overpass turbo and Level0 editor, and > more... > Thanks for the update. Taginfo is one of my most used tools. Clifford

Re: [OSM-talk] Organizational mapping policy

2014-05-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > I personally subscribe to new OSM users feed for two countries which I'm > focused on and check out their first edits, these are not high activity > countries so perhaps others have more problems but so far none appears to > be harm

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Advices on OSM mobile applications for IPhone and Ipad handy for field work in humanitarian contexts

2014-04-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Severin Menard wrote: > GoMap!! is a really good app even for editing. +1 GoMap!! is the best editor for OSM. I only wish I had an iOS device! -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [OSM-talk] admin_level 4 rendering

2014-04-07 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Felix Delattre wrote: > I was going over the "departmentos" (admin_level=4) in Nicaragua > yesterday. And it does not explain to me why the names of them not > getting rendered in Mapnik. Please compare: > > * Province (admin_level=4) in Costa Rica: > http://www.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses

2014-03-26 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Johan C wrote: > Open data initiatives will help in acquiring address data: for example by > July 2015 close to 200 million addresses in the EU will be available for > OSM because of a change in the national laws. For me having addresses and > building outlines w

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > Actually our policy on such matters (not on edit wars) is documented > here http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Policies_and_other_Documents > Simon, Thanks - That helps. I didn't think of looking at the Foundations wiki. While not a process i

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > The DWG has an OSMF approved process for handling political disputes. > There's no reason to start a flamewar about this. > Serge, Rather than start a flamewar, I was looking for the process. A well document process is a quick way to smo

[OSM-talk] Crimea/Russia/Ukraine Borders

2014-03-18 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm curious how OSM handles this dispute. I expect Russia's parliament ratify the annexation and I expect that Ukraine will continue to disagree. Do we have a documented process in place to determine when the border is changed? I couldn't find anything on the wiki after a quick search. If it is doc

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Clifford Snow
Toby, this is great data. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Toby Murray wrote: > Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) > > iD: > total changesets: 1,744,610 > changesets with a comment: 745,774 > 43% comment rate > What got me first was the number of firs

[OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-05 Thread Clifford Snow
Why do I see so many new mappers make edits without a commit comment? Is it because iD doesn't prompt for a commit message? iD issue 1488 is open but not acted upon. I wonder why. Is it because the developers don't think commit comments are needed? I'm wondering what the community thinks. Are comm

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > I think we can divide features to virtual and physical features. > > Virtual: highway centerlines, waterway centerlines, administrative > borders, industrial and residental landuse, parks > Physical: riverbanks, buildings, meadows, forests,

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-25 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: > The edges of some polygons are truly coincident with road centerlines. For > example, many municipal boundaries. That may be true, but it doesn't mean we need to connect roads with polygons. As was stated in a post from a time past, roads

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