spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 3:09 PM, you wrote: I subscribe to the Langalist, and there was a great article in it today about spamcop. I know this has been talked about on TBUDL some, but I didn't follow it ;) Here is the langalist article for your reading pleasure. 7) More On Spam, And SpamC

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Tom Geldner
Hi Paul, PC> I subscribe to the Langalist, and there was a great article in it today PC> about spamcop. I know this has been talked about on TBUDL some, but I PC> didn't follow it ;) Here is the langalist article for your reading PC> pleasure. The one point on which I disagree with the article i

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Saturday, September 28, 2002, 5:00 PM, you wrote: TG> SpamCop does have one serious shortcoming. It does NOT reduce your TG> spam by reporting through it. 90% of the junk mail comes from about 10 TG> major sources in China and a few in Brazil. They could care less who TG> reports them and the

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2002-09-28 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Geldner [TG] wrote:' TG> The one point on which I disagree with the article is that DNSable TG> blacklists are somehow actionable in court. That seems like pure TG> nonsense to me. Nobody HAS to use

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Tom, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:00:40 -0700 GMT (29/09/02, 04:00 +0700 GMT), Tom Geldner wrote: TG> SpamCop does have one serious shortcoming. It does NOT reduce your TG> spam by reporting through it. 90% of the junk mail comes from about 10 TG> major sources in China and a few in Brazil. They

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Paul, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:57:09 -0400 GMT (29/09/02, 02:57 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC> Since then I have had first-hand experience with SpamCop's PC> heavy-handed, across-the-board, "Self-Appointed Gestapo" tactics PC> about blocking ALL email from a server used by several IS

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-29 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sunday, September 29, 2002, 2:53 AM, you wrote: PC>> Since then I have had first-hand experience with SpamCop's PC>> heavy-handed, across-the-board, "Self-Appointed Gestapo" tactics PC>> about blocking ALL email from a server used by several ISP's, even PC>> though the offending email did NO

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-29 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae tbudl-bounces, On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, at 15:57:09 [GMT -0400] (or 20:57 in Wales) regarding 'spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP' you wrote: PC> On Friday, September 27, 2002, 3:09 PM, you wrote: Sorry but no sympathy from me, and my domain has been in SPEWS cau

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-29 Thread Scott McNay
Hi all! If you are so interested in anti-spam, you should join an anti-spam mailing list. There are several, mostly populated by folks who run blacklists or are sysadmins, and the discussions tend to be on the technical side. Go to www.abuse.net to find out about one list. -- --Scott. mailto:

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-03 Thread alists
Hello Paul, Saturday, September 28, 2002, 12:57:09 PM, you wrote: PC> On Friday, September 27, 2002, 3:09 PM, you wrote: PC> Unfortunately, the folks at SpamCop aren't listening. They believe they PC> are on the side of Righteousness And Good, and thus are above reproach; PC> they also seem to

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thursday, October 3, 2002, 1:37 PM, you wrote: JO> I believe SpamCop actually warns you that that could happen. JO> If I read the warning/notice correctly, it's possible for spammmers to JO> get the new email address when SpamCop sends a complaint to the JO> spammer's listed (via dns) "ISP".

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-03 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Paul, On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:58:29 -0400 GMT (04/10/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT), Paul Cartwright wrote: PC> well, I have noticed a LOT more Porn and SPAM in my yahoo account PC> lately, it does seem to have escalated since I joined spamcop, BUT it PC> could just be the fact that my Yahoo accou

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-04 Thread David Pascoe
Hi Thomas, On Friday, 4 October 2002, at 13:23:54 [GMT +0700] you wrote: TF> On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:58:29 -0400 GMT (04/10/02, 02:58 +0700 GMT), TF> Paul Cartwright wrote: PC>> well, I have noticed a LOT more Porn and SPAM in my yahoo account PC>> lately, it does seem to have escalated since

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-05 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello David! On Saturday, October 5, 2002 at 4:55:39 AM you wrote: > You will not notice a reduction in SPAM if you only report it to spamcop. I doubt that you will notice a reduction at all, not so much because I doubt SpamCop but because of the vast increase in junk mail that is foreseen by v

Re: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-05 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Dierk, On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:57:51 +0200 GMT (05/10/02, 15:57 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: >> You will not notice a reduction in SPAM if you only report it to spamcop. DH> I doubt that you will notice a reduction at all, not so much DH> because I doubt SpamCop but because of the vast i

Re[2]: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-09-28 Thread Tom Geldner
Hi Thomas, TF> The thing is that when I report a spam to spamcops, the headers are TF> reported and sent to the originating ISP as well. Some of these ISP's TF> are spammers themselves and it is no problem for them to harvest email TF> addresses from the headers in spam reported back to them. It

Re[2]: spamcop problems-more on SPAM/SPAMCOP

2002-10-03 Thread James Olsen
Hello, PC>> Unfortunately, the folks at SpamCop aren't listening. They believe they PC>> are on the side of Righteousness And Good, and thus are above reproach; PC>> they also seem to have total faith in their technology. But consider: PC>> I have recently been getting spam addressed to a d