Something like this should work fine then ?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160903
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Will the external drive work with any file format e.g. NTFS/fat32 ?
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My Touch order has shipped and is now inside an UPS van on its way to my
home, scheduled for today.
So I am having home arrest untill delivery...
Status: In transit
Deliverydate: 09/04/2010
Type: Pakket
Service: STANDARD
Weight: 1,50 Kg
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I'm guessing that the touch does not support plain old HFS+ (let alone
the journaled variety) at this point in time. I know that linux support
for Read+Write on HFS+ is not the greatest, so I understand this.
Nevertheless, how hard will it be to get the Touch to mount an HFS+
Journaled USB
After waiting since ordering my Touch back in October, I'm rubbing my
hands in antipication of receiving it this coming Monday. Big thumbs
up for that.
One thing I did notice recently were comments about the design of the
Touch, implying that it was far more capable that the usual embedded
Mr_Sukebe;532165 Wrote:
One thing I did notice recently were comments about the design of the
Touch, implying that it was far more capable that the usual embedded
software unit, and could accept new applications, almost like a
Logitech version of an Iphone.
Assuming that to be the case,
MickeyG;532008 Wrote:
I was wrong. I have now been straightened out. Here's what I know:
- US -- Shipping pre-orders. Taking orders now even though it says
Out of Stock. Start shipping new orders Monday April 12.
- EU -- Pre-orders have shipped. Taking orders now even though
nonnoroger;531772 Wrote:
Ordered on-line to Logitech UK on 03/29 - express delivery.
Now shipping from the Netherlands.
On schedule for delivery tomorrow, Friday 04/09.
In process has changed to completed.
I am at home tomorrow and really looking forward to playing my 24/96
vinyl
Phil Leigh;532099 Wrote:
+1 - categorically bit-perfect when vol=100 (DTS and HDCD prove this).
The Touch doesn't need the -63dB setting for the analogue outs that was
useful on the SB3).
There is no additional analogue level control on the Touch.
Many thanks for the info...
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No, HFS is not supported due to the lack of RW support for journaled
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Mr_Sukebe;532165 Wrote:
Personally I'd love to see an update to the Inguz room correction
software. Do the developers of the Touch believe that it has the
processing power for that type of work?
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the Touch beta testers and I
don't see any way it could run
Neat looking, fine touch.
Typing this while listening to Radio Paradise on my freshly arrived
Touch.
Patience IS a virtue :-)
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R Johnson;532013 Wrote:
The latest newsletter from HD Tracks promotes some new 96/24 material
from the New York Philharmonic. Perhaps these recordings follow a
simpler path than the SACD conversion for the Chicago Symphony...
I recently bought Tenor Madness and Bags meets Wes!, two
Me too!
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Mine arrived 4 hours ago and is now playing along.
First impressions are good. Beautiful screen.
It is now scanning an USB disk (Samsung S1) for files. Then I can try
out it's internal Squeezeserver
Marc
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I have a Samsung S1 mini 250Gb disk attached that is even smaller than a
2.5 drive and hardly consumes any power. It works great with the touch
Marc
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I've got a pre-order waiting on Amazon to get with it. It's listed as
unavailable.
Has anyone ordered through Amazon and actually had it ship yet?
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I think you misunderstand. There is only one wireless hop - from the
router to the SB3. The SB3 acts as a wireless access point. In fact,
I needed to turn off the wireless connection on the computer for it to
show up properly on the network map. The computer can still use the
SB3's bridge for
iPhone;529997 Wrote:
Hello and Welcome to the Forum.
I think that you are attempting to put the blame in the wrong place. It
is not Logitech, they are going to sell the unit first at what the
market will bear (which is called Capitalism IE good business) and the
second dynamic is that
Hofstede;532279 Wrote:
I have a Samsung S1 mini 250Gb disk attached that is even smaller than a
2.5 drive (it has an 1.8 drive) and hardly consumes any power. It
works great with the Touch
Marc
I tested a bunch of drives, but not one of those. I went to Fry's and
bought a bunch of USB
JJZolx;532016 Wrote:
Covering our ass verbiage. Logitech is good at that.
Hey! I wrote that! :-(
But seriously ... a lot of USB drives don't have the USB certified
logo. (Note that the box for a lot of drives lately have a logo that
only resembles USB but aren't USB certified) These drives
Swimmerbird123;532292 Wrote:
I think you misunderstand. There is only one wireless hop - from the
router to the SB3.
Yes, that I understand, but from a streaming perspective there are two
wireless hops as far as I can see. First data from the server to the
router (via the SB) and then from
As bluegaspode already pointed out, this is price discrimination in
segmented markets, straight out of any first-year undergraduate
economics text. Demand for SBs in Canada is apparently more inelastic
than in the US because of a host of factors, including size of market,
cost of substitutes
Erm no. His server is plugged into his SB3, so from a Squeezebox point
of view he actually has zero wireless hops.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !
posted in another thread
Well, I ordered one through the logitech site and also have one on
pre-order through Amazon. I figure I can cancel the one which ships
lasthopefully
I imagine from the looks of things, amazons will not ship for a while
considering they pulled them off the
posted in another thread
Well, I ordered one through the logitech site and also have one on
pre-order through Amazon. I figure I can cancel the one which ships
lasthopefully
I imagine from the looks of things, amazons will not ship for a while
considering they pulled them off the
I have been informed by the Electronc Media Coordinator for the San
Francisco Symphony that the San Francisco Symphony also sends their
SACDs to HD Tracks.
And this employee of the Symphony admits that HD Tracks rips their
SACDs to create the digital downloads.
HDtracks subcontracts with a
Have you contacted HD Tracks to confirm that they upsample in the
examples you have given?
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andynormancx;532333 Wrote:
Erm no. His server is plugged into his SB3, so from a Squeezebox point
of view he actually has zero wireless hops.
Well, perhaps the networking of the SB3 is more competent than I give
it credit for. My assumption was that both SB3 and server would have
the wireless
ummm...the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter doesn't appear to be limited to
44.1/24 (http://www.emmlabs.com/full/adc8/flow.html) and the sampling
rate for an SACD is 2.8MHz?
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Bridges normally work by keeping a list of MAC addresses, so that they
know which devices are on the local side of the bridge. No default
gateway involved for devices on the same subnet.
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Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ?
I SAID ALL OF THEM !
mortslim Wrote:
HDtracks subcontracts with a studio to do the rip of the SACDs using a
machine called the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter. This machine converts
the SACDs DSD format to a PCM format of 24/44.1. That is a technical
restriction of the machine whose specifications are limited
mortslim;518719 Wrote:
The studio that does the SACD conversions for HDtracks told me that it
uses the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter for these conversions. And
HDtracks confirmed in an email to another poster in post #73 that this
is indeed the machine that is used for the conversions.
Quad;532369 Wrote:
this is a misunderstanding. Maybe the subcontracting studio knows a way
to preserve 24/96 while converting DSD to PCM. I mean hey, it's David
Chesky from Chesky Records who owns and runs HDtracks! He sure knows
how to deal with sampling rates. (That's what one hopes.)
I, too, have had a Touch on pre-order from Amazon since last December.
I'm very displeased to see the product available elsewhere and
unavailable on Amazon.
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MadCityGeoff;532404 Wrote:
I, too, have had a Touch on pre-order from Amazon since last December.
I'm very displeased to see the product available elsewhere and
unavailable on Amazon.
I know amazon gives you the option to cancel the order anytime, you
might want to try ordering one through
So what is the consensus, does the Touch offer the bridge functunality
like the SB3? I use this feature on my SB3 for my Directv HDDVR box
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Ready for ordering Touch, but have a question.
My flac's are on NAS (D-Link DNS343) with SBS Version: 7.4.1 - r28947
.
I do not plan to use USB drives and built-in server software.
So, will Squeezebox Touch work with my current setup, or it's
absolutely necessary to upgrade to 7.5.0. (on NAS)
I contacted HD Tracks, here's what they said:
Thank you for your interest in HDtracks. All of our high resolution
files are provided to us from the label and are not upsampled. We do
not convert them to 44.1 and then back up to 88.2. We read the post
that you provided a link for as
MickeyG;532316 Wrote:
I was worried that a lot of users would have throw on a old drive and
possibly run into this situation too.
Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have
thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It
will make sense to few
Hi,
Posting this as it may help others enjoy their Touch
I have been lucky enough to get a Touch quickly last Wednesday here in
NZ. It worked without any real problems with the exception of some
glitches and stutters playing SOME hi-res FLAC files, not all as some
were fine.
This was
johnas;532442 Wrote:
I contacted HD Tracks, here's what they said:
Wow I bet he is going to learn to keep his mouth shut.
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HDTracks now says: we have taken the San Francisco Symphony albums off
of our site while we investigate.
If it reads the earlier posts in this thread, it may want to also take
off the albums from Resound, the Chicago Symphony Orchestras record
label, because the same upsampling is happening
@Phil: You´re right, I forgot the clock matters!!
V-DAC: I tried using V-DAC instead of internal ONKYO PR-SC886 DAC
(20bit). Definitely no difference. Speakers were active Pro-Equipment
(Geithain RL901).
@Dibou: Thanks for answering. VERY interesting link!!!
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JJZolx;532453 Wrote:
Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have
thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It
will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works
when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to
Thanks for reposting that info.
So I read the instruction manual and yes, the base frequency can only
be set to 44.1 for DSD, but, there is another switch listed above that
in the manual that sets the sample rate. Wouldn't setting that switch
to 2fs give you 88.2 (2 x the base frequency)?
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The EMM Labs machine is a swiss army knife. It can do many different
types of projects and its capabilities vary depending on the project.
The issue for this discussion is DSD to PCM conversion of a ripped
SACD. So the specs on other types of conversions by the same machine
are not relevant.
As cited above, the EMM manual is quite clear:
only 44.1kHz is allowed for DSD outputs and inputs on page 2 and page
8.
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But that only 44.1kHz is allowed for DSD outputs and inputs applies to
the base frequency. As far as I can tell, isn't that different from the
actual sampling rate? Looking at the manual:
1FS / 2FS: Selects the sample rate for PCM data. FS is the base
frequency (see 44.1 / 48 switch). 2FS
JJZolx;532453 Wrote:
Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have
thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It
will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works
when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to
JJZolx;532453 Wrote:
Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have
thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It
will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works
when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to
sturmhardt;532474 Wrote:
geithain rl901Cool speakers.
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From HD Tracks
Thank you for waiting. We have gotten in touch with Bruce and we have
clarified what is going on with these conversions.
Firstly, the EMM Labs converter can convert DSD to PCM at either 44.1
or
88.2. There is a switch on the front for 1fs or 2fs for this. However
Thanks for contacting them and posting their reply johnas. So I guess
all this talk about switches and things was irrelevant?
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I am not sure, I don't know anything about the technology. Maybe
Mortslim can comment on the information HD Tracks sent me - they seem
to refute what he is saying but I will leave him to comment.
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Traditionally third party applications were implemented as a plugin
for the server and ran on the machine the server was running on. These
are written in perl (the language the server is written in)
The new generation devices (controller, radio and touch) add a new form
called an applet that is
johnas;532552 Wrote:
I am not sure, I don't know anything about the technology. Maybe
Mortslim can comment on the information HD Tracks sent me - they seem
to refute what he is saying but I will leave him to comment.
I'd like to hear his comment as well!
Regards,
Bruce
Hi everyone,
I have two quick questions about the touch:
When playing off a local USB drive, is seeking in ALAC files possible?
When playing ALAC files off a local USB drive, do gapless tracks play
as they should?
Thanks!
Eric
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(http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=34) at the top of the
forum, if you want to use an SB Touch running SBS off your NAS, then
yes, you do need to upgrade to 7.5.0.
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I haven't found any. Please contribute US sites or stores indicating
Touch is available NOW.
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Logitech URL is not working for buying the touch and there is no stock.
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The issue is not what Bruce does, the issue is how Bruce's product is
marketed by HDTracks.
Here are the specs for the Playback Designs MPS-5 (which is the
transport for the SACD):
Digital outputs:
XLR: AES/EBU formatted for stereo linear PCM data.
If playing from disc the data on this output
Bruce B;532576 Wrote:
we take a direct DSD data stream from a Playback Designs MPS-5 into
either a Sonoma workstation or a Pyramix workstation.
Actually, this seems to suggest that rather than the analog output of
the transport, the digital output is being used (which per the specs of
the
mortslim;532596 Wrote:
Am I missing something here?
Yes... you're missing something... and I'm trying to defend myself
again and wasting time...
The digital output for both the Playback Designs MPS-5 and the EMM Labs
CDSD-SE... of which we both use, is a direct DSD data stream from the
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