[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble, take two.

2008-10-06 Thread Jani Tiainen
Jani Tiainen kirjoitti: > I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day > it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried > several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly working and > what's "worse" someone found Redmine and it's worki

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-02 Thread Jeff Hammel
There are plugins for much of this. I'm only to speak to a few specific issues as most of these have been addressed by others in this thread: On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:51:25AM +0300, Jani Tiainen wrote: > Trouble #3: Multiproject/multirepository support. We have few projects > that are actua

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-02 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > Well work that idea out in more detail. How do you share things, and how do > you not share things. Things like plugins probably have to be "global" just > as an implementation detail, but what about other stuff. User preferences > should be shared between projects? Etc et

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Robert C Corsaro
rupert thurner wrote: > On Oct 1, 4:25 pm, Robert C Corsaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Erik Bray wrote: Trouble #1: Partially open environment. Recently there has been increasing need to have private and public parts of same project. Public part would be open for end users and de

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
> -Original Message- > From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:43 PM > To: trac-users@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. > > > Noah Kantrowitz wrote:

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > And, as many people have noted in this thread, redmine is generally quite > inflexible. There is always a downside to everything, adding more code is a > higher maintenance burden if nothing else. I do agree that I think that > model is a step in the right direction for s

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
> -Original Message- > From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 12:50 PM > To: trac-users@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. > > > Noah Kantrowitz wrote

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: > I have also explained many times on this list why we have put off multiple > project support (including subprojects), but just for kicks: > > People are very quick to ask for "multiple project support", citing tools > like GForge or Redmine that can do it so it must be ea

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread yoheeb
On Oct 1, 1:28 pm, Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:00:20 Jani Tiainen wrote: > > > Reporter - Person who reported ticket (usually customer). Since we get > > reports by call/email this is more like free textfield. > > > Manager - Person who is responsibl

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Garrett McGrath
. > > Brian Toole > Oracle Programming Specialist > Web and Administrative Systems > University of Portland > Portland, OR 97203 > (503) 943-7196 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
> -Original Message- > From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Oberbrunner > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 11:18 AM > To: trac-users@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. > > > Noah Kantrowitz wrot

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Wednesday 01 October 2008 13:00:20 Jani Tiainen wrote: > Reporter - Person who reported ticket (usually customer). Since we get > reports by call/email this is more like free textfield. > > Manager - Person who is responsible in ticket general. Usually project > manager. > > Assignee - Person

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Noah Kantrowitz wrote: ... > So, in summary, #5 is the only real issue on this list and that has been on > our roadmap forever. Everything else is just a failure to either read the > documentation or to find the right plugin. Well, to be fair I think #3, if interpreted as subproject support, has

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
> -Original Message- > From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jani Tiainen > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:51 PM > To: trac-users@googlegroups.com > Subject: [Trac] Trac in trouble. > > > I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment bu

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Jani Tiainen
Toole, Brian kirjoitti: > How are you wanting the multiple owners to work? Do you mean multiple > owners for a given ticket component? I'm not sure if this is exactly > what you're looking for, but here's what I've done: > > We currently have one position (Report Writer) that is a time-share >

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Garrett McGrath
On the other hand, the majority of plugins on the trac-hacks site are easy_install enabled making them almost as trivial as gems. Jani Tiainen wrote: > Gary Oberbrunner kirjoitti: > >> Jani Tiainen wrote: >> >>> I've played with Redmine a bit and it works very well with subproject >>> t

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Toole, Brian
tland, OR 97203 (503) 943-7196 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jani Tiainen Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:14 AM To: trac-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [Trac] Re: Trac in trouble. Erik Bray kirjoitti: &

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Jani Tiainen
Gary Oberbrunner kirjoitti: > Jani Tiainen wrote: >> I've played with Redmine a bit and it works very well with subproject >> things, simple cross referencing (same as MasterTicketPlugin) and it's >> very nice issue tracking system. But rest of Redmine is "crap". And it's >> ruby thingy which i

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Leho kraav
Whatsup Jani Feel like making a cooperative effort on patching on the issues that you touched? I'm also thinking about more thorough access control implementation among other things. On Oct 1, 8:51 am, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Trouble #1: Partially open environment. Recently t

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Jani Tiainen wrote: > I've played with Redmine a bit and it works very well with subproject > things, simple cross referencing (same as MasterTicketPlugin) and it's > very nice issue tracking system. But rest of Redmine is "crap". And it's > ruby thingy which is ugly itself. :D (That's about tr

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Jani Tiainen
Erik Bray kirjoitti: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day >> it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried >> several solutions but I haven't found anything even n

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread rupert thurner
On Oct 1, 4:25 pm, Robert C Corsaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Bray wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day > >> it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users.

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Robert C Corsaro
Erik Bray wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day >> it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried >> several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearl

[Trac] Re: Trac in trouble.

2008-10-01 Thread Erik Bray
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:51 AM, Jani Tiainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to keep Trac in our corporation environment but day after day > it's coming more difficult due feature needs from users. I've tried > several solutions but I haven't found anything even nearly working and > what