My head is spinning. I shall let the machine have a rest (and also my
brain). We can maybe discuss what you all think is really the best thing
long-term. It is a lovely, lovely machine. I need to power it down now
anyway, because I took a little tip from the Compal manual, which is
this: after
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> I reproduced the cases (and the spaces) as you gave them, Al.
>
> There is no KVARS line at all in the Makefile. Here are the contents.
>
> KVER := $(shell uname -r)
^^^ sorry, my bad, it's KVER, and they _have_ modified it in almost
the same way I did. This is good new
Rowan wrote:
> Excellent stuff, Tony, thanks again.
>
> uname -a gives
> Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 00:13:11 UTC 2009 i686
> GNU/Linux
>
> administration/system monitor/system gives
> Ubuntu Release 8.04 (hardy)
> Kernel Linux 2.6.24-23-generic
> GNOME 2.22.3
Hello, Rowan.
I reproduced the cases (and the spaces) as you gave them, Al.
There is no KVARS line at all in the Makefile. Here are the contents.
KVER := $(shell uname -r)
KDIR := /lib/modules/$(KVER)/build
KMISC := /lib/modules/$(KVER)/kernel/drivers/net/
KEXT := $(shell ech
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> I typed that in exactly as you gave it, Al, and got no output at all.
>
It's case sensitive. Alternatively you can press ALT+F2, and then in
the box type "gksu nautilus /root" and then navigate to
/root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00/src and open the Makefile to see the
"KVARS" line.
Ch
Excellent stuff, Tony, thanks again.
uname -a gives
Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-23-generic #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 00:13:11 UTC 2009 i686
GNU/Linux
administration/system monitor/system gives
Ubuntu Release 8.04 (hardy)
Kernel Linux 2.6.24-23-generic
GNOME 2.22.3
Tony Travis wrote:
> Rowan wrote:
>
>> I ty
Rowan wrote:
> I typed that in exactly as you gave it, Al, and got no output at all.
>
> How do I check which ubuntu version I have? I know it goes by very fast
> during the boot sequence, I think it's 24 something.
> [...]
Hello, Rowan.
To find out which kernel you are running type:
u
Nope, and I am no idea where to find this magazine of which you speak,
nor do I much want to. I have the restore discs, and that's it. But thanks.
Tony Travis wrote:
> Rowan wrote:
>
>> Al, this is exactly the sort of thing that made me ask over and over for
>> hands-on help - which would not
Rowan wrote:
>
> Al, this is exactly the sort of thing that made me ask over and over for
> hands-on help - which would not only be more likely to succeed but would
> be faster than all this online discussion.
> [...]
Hello, Rowan.
Have you tried booting from a 'live' CD - e.g. the Ubuntu 8.10 C
I typed that in exactly as you gave it, Al, and got no output at all.
How do I check which ubuntu version I have? I know it goes by very fast
during the boot sequence, I think it's 24 something.
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Rowan :
>
>> p.s. (sorry to double post where one would do): I shall
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> p.s. (sorry to double post where one would do): I shall ask them by
> email whether or not that is the case. Before even turning it on, I want
> comprehensive instructions including contingencies.
>
Just open a terminal and issue this command to find out:-
sudo grep KVARS /root
p.s. (sorry to double post where one would do): I shall ask them by
email whether or not that is the case. Before even turning it on, I want
comprehensive instructions including contingencies.
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Rowan :
>
>> Sean, is "make clean modules" an instruction you type in? I
Al, this is exactly the sort of thing that made me ask over and over for
hands-on help - which would not only be more likely to succeed but would
be faster than all this online discussion.
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Rowan :
>
>> Sean, is "make clean modules" an instruction you type in? I
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> Sean, is "make clean modules" an instruction you type in? I assumed it
> was an instruction to ME, to make them clean somehow.
>
It is a command, yes. However I just tried it here using that driver
and it fails, because the (realtek - not LC) seem to have hard-wired
the kernel v
Sean, is "make clean modules" an instruction you type in? I assumed it
was an instruction to ME, to make them clean somehow.
Sean Miller wrote:
> Hi Rowan,
>
> What is it you don't understand?
>
> They appear to be giving you two options :-
>
> a. revert to the default Ubuntu driver
>
>
>> 1.
The machine itself is a Compal JHL 90 (Korean, not Japanese, my bad).
Gorgeous screen to it. The Compal manual is online in various places. I
would be very grateful if anyone could tell me whether this machine
really has "bleeding edge chipsets".
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Rowan :
>
>> One,
But then I'm a "glass half full" kinda guy.
- Indeed you are, Al. That makes you a splendid moderator for this kind of list.
Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/2 Rowan :
>
>> One, the thing already installed some of the auto-updates, then got
>> stuck, because it had disabled the interface and couldn
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> One, the thing already installed some of the auto-updates, then got
> stuck, because it had disabled the interface and couldn't download the
> rest, so I shall have to tell it to stop complaining about this fact
> until I am sorted.
>
Yes, the instructions that Sean and LC provi
Well, it's true one has to confirm the install by clicking an OK button,
before the auto-updater starts installing anything at all, so I guess it
follows that merely going online and downloading updates is harmless. I
did, unfortunately, click OK to install on the first occasion, being an
innoc
Just a couple of after-thoughts, Al:
One, the thing already installed some of the auto-updates, then got
stuck, because it had disabled the interface and couldn't download the
rest, so I shall have to tell it to stop complaining about this fact
until I am sorted.
Two, in fact, it appears the m
Morning,
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> So you think it's worth using the non-default driver.
I think it's worth using whatever driver works :)
> That means that I
> must switch off auto-updates, after reinstalling the non-default driver,
No, it doesn't as I understand it. They have provided a manual
solut
Mornin,' Al.
So you think it's worth using the non-default driver. That means that I
must switch off auto-updates, after reinstalling the non-default driver,
and before going back online, and that I must install DKMS before
switching auto-updates back on, I guess. Again, I shall think all this
2009/3/2 Rowan :
> Tell me, do you think there is any good reason, in anybody's minds but
> the LinuxCertified engineers, to use a non default driver at all? Is the
> "instability" in the r8169 driver a matter of common knowledge, or just
> something they dreamed up to make life more confusing?
>
Well, I'm very grateful for that explanation, Sean, I really am. I shall
read it very carefully and digest it slowly - it has taken me two weeks
to even boil down the question to a sufficiently succinct form to be
answerable.
Tell me, do you think there is any good reason, in anybody's minds bu
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Rowan wrote:
> I don't understand instruction 2. Is it one long line? What is the >
> doing there, and is it single spaced in between the two long strings? Or
> did it creep in when the email was transmitted?
>
> sed 's/blacklist r8169/#blacklist r8169/' /etc/modpro
I don't understand instruction 2. Is it one long line? What is the >
doing there, and is it single spaced in between the two long strings? Or
did it creep in when the email was transmitted?
sed 's/blacklist r8169/#blacklist r8169/' /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak >
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
Se
Hi Rowan,
What is it you don't understand?
They appear to be giving you two options :-
a. revert to the default Ubuntu driver
> 1. mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak
> 2. sed 's/blacklist r8169/#blacklist r8169/' /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.bak >
> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklis
Could people kindly amplify the following cryptic instructions from
LinuxCertified's engineers so that a complete ignoramus like me can
follow them? I have reproduced the lines of code EXACTLY as transmitted.
My current machine is getting rather wonky, so I need to get all this on
paper pronto.
I didn't start out with the preconception that someone else would have
to sort it out for me hands-on. However, I do feel that now, and
yesterday two people on this list said quite cheerfully that at some
point it should be possible to do just that, and I don't want to start
reviewing that deci
Rowan wrote:
> I would certainly want to make it clear to anyone considering starting
> with Linux that unless they are already online with another machine (I
> am using a beat-up old sony running WinXP) it will be absolute hell for
> them to find anyone who can help them get started.
> [...]
Hel
On 25/02/2009 15:19, Jon Reynolds wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to add something to this, although not entirely relevant to
> Rowan's case, but it reminds me of a lot of people thinking when it comes to
> adopting Linux.
>
> I have tried, half-heartedly, to get family members to switch to Ubu
I would certainly want to make it clear to anyone considering starting
with Linux that unless they are already online with another machine (I
am using a beat-up old sony running WinXP) it will be absolute hell for
them to find anyone who can help them get started. I could not possibly
have figu
Hi all,
I would like to add something to this, although not entirely relevant to
Rowan's case, but it reminds me of a lot of people thinking when it comes to
adopting Linux.
I have tried, half-heartedly, to get family members to switch to Ubuntu, or
even just try it out for a while, thinking o
Thanks but I shall wait until someone is able to reinstall the driver,
install DKMS, and give the thing a general once-over, as discussed earlier.
Please understand that although I appreciate the 'open source
philosophy' I do NOT regard myself as competent to fix this.
Matthew Daubney wrote:
> H
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