RE: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread ROY,RHETT G
> > Sure...rain on the parade! Actually the data doesn't say if > the marked as spams were delivered either. > > Remind me to poke you in the eye when I see you! ;) > > --Chris > No, the stuff marked as spam doesn't get delivered, at least not to the users. That percentage was what doesn

RE: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread ROY,RHETT G
> Chris Santerre writes: > > >Total SMTP Connections > > >6008 > > >Total Rejected By RBL > > >4803 > > >Total Flagged By SA > > >431 > > >Total Delivered > > >774 > > >Percentage Delivered > > >12 > > > > Wow! 12%! Damn! > > > > Thank goodness for those SARE and SURBL guys! ;) > > yeah, but 12

RE: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 2:41 PM >To: Chris Santerre >Cc: 'ROY,RHETT G'; users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Results of adding SARE rules > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > > >Chris San

Re: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Santerre writes: > >Total SMTP Connections > >6008 > >Total Rejected By RBL > >4803 > >Total Flagged By SA > >431 > >Total Delivered > >774 > >Percentage Delivered > >12 > > Wow! 12%! Damn! > > Thank goodness for those SARE and SURBL guys! ;)

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Jean Caron wrote: > > Here's the bayes related I had in there already; > use_bayes 1 > bayes_path /home/bayesUID/bayes > bayes_file_mode 0666 > bayes_auto_learn 1 > Jean Suggestion: set bayes_file_mode to 0777 not 0666. The bayes_file_mode is really a mask not literal permi

RE: Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread Chris Santerre
>Total SMTP Connections >6008 >Total Rejected By RBL >4803 >Total Flagged By SA >431 >Total Delivered >774 >Percentage Delivered >12 Wow! 12%! Damn! Thank goodness for those SARE and SURBL guys! ;) --Chris (Still working on a new SARE ruleset...8 months and counting)

Re: Does -r reject or discard

2005-04-15 Thread Steven Stern
Todd Lyons wrote: Steven Stern wanted us to know: We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10". Does this reject the message (causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a reject, how can I change it to a discard? It rejects it at the SMTP level before sendmail ever accepts it, s

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Jean Caron
Alright. I find it strange that the defaults don't apply to my setup, but in any case I added the following to local.cf and re-started spamd. add_header all Status _YESNO_, score=_SCORE_ required=_REQD_ tests=_TESTS_ Here's the bayes related I had in there already; use_bayes 1 bayes_path

Re: Mutliple instance of spamd

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Kettler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello All > > i'm using SA 3.00 with postfix 2.1 > I need to configure multiple spamd process > with different configuration files (local.cf's) > > Has somone knowledge about this? man spamd Look at the --siteconfigpath and -p command-line parameters. They can shar

RE: Does -r reject or discard

2005-04-15 Thread martin smith
M>-Original Message- M>From: Steven Stern M>Sent: 15 April 2005 15:56 M>To: spamass-milt-list@nongnu.org; spamass M>Subject: Does -r reject or discard M> M>We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10". Does this reject M>the message (causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just M>discard it? I

Re[2]: Help w/ understanding scoring inconsistencies (long)

2005-04-15 Thread Patrick Graham
Hello Matt, Friday, April 15, 2005, 10:29:14 AM, you wrote: MK> Also, did you restart spamd after installing chickenpox.cf? If you use MK> spamd/spamc, then spamd only loads the base config files once and only MK> reads user_prefs on a per-message basis when spamc feeds them. Serious lack of ca

awl sitewide questions

2005-04-15 Thread Matias Lopez Bergero
Hello, I'm running a site wide bayesian install, and it improve a lot the spam detection. I was wondering if as sitewide AWL would do the same. So i look forward to your comments :) There is a way to export the users awl dbs to create a single global db? or starting from zero it's a better idea?

Re: Does -r reject or discard

2005-04-15 Thread Ed Kasky
At 07:56 AM Friday, 4/15/2005, you wrote -=> We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10". Does this reject the message (causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a reject, how can I change it to a discard? I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail queue that look

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread alan premselaar
Rick Macdougall wrote: Neil Watson wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:24:47AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Rejecting spam is not a good idea. Most of

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread alan premselaar
Steven W. Orr wrote: Recently I have been getting phone calls that friends have been getting their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Anyone else getting this? I'm pretty sure your friends

Results of adding SARE rules

2005-04-15 Thread ROY,RHETT G
I recently added the conservative (mass-check testing hit ONLY spam) version of all the SARE rules that had been updated in 2005. I figured that was as good a place as any to start. So far so good. Thanks to the Ninjas. Below are some related stats from my current maillog. I don't make any claims

RE: Mutliple instance of spamd

2005-04-15 Thread Gray, Richard
Guessing at what it is your trying to do, I would suggest you take a look at MailScanner From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 15:43To: SASubject: Mutliple instance of spamd Hello All i'm using SA 3.00 with postfix 2.1 I need to configure multi

Rule Set

2005-04-15 Thread Daniel Kaliel
There are two forms of spam that we are getting a lot of and I wanted to know if anyone has already developed a rule set to combat them.  One says it is an OEM software vendor and it lists of a ton of products and there prices.  The other is in offering low rates on mortgages.  Maybe it was

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:44 AM 4/15/2005, Neil Watson wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:24:47AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Rejecting spam is not a good idea. Most of th

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Keith Ivey
Neil Watson wrote: Rejecting spam is not a good idea. Most of the time you end up spamming some poor sod who has been joe-jobbed. Discard spam. Don't add the to problem. The problem with discarding is that in situations like the one described the sender will have no idea the mail was not receiv

Does -r reject or discard

2005-04-15 Thread Steven Stern
We're using spamass-milter with "-r 10". Does this reject the message (causing Sendmail to send a reject) or just discard it? If it's a reject, how can I change it to a discard? I'm asking because I'm seeing stuff in our outgoing mail queue that looks like reject messages. -- Steve

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Rick Macdougall
Neil Watson wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:24:47AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Rejecting spam is not a good idea. Most of the time you end up sp

Mutliple instance of spamd

2005-04-15 Thread bruno . delladucata
Hello All i'm using SA 3.00 with postfix 2.1 I need to configure multiple spamd process with different configuration files (local.cf's) Has somone knowledge about this? Thanks for help Regards Bruno

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Neil Watson
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:24:47AM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Rejecting spam is not a good idea. Most of the time you end up spamming some poor sod w

Re: Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:24 AM 4/15/2005, Steven W. Orr wrote: Recently I have been getting phone calls that friends have been getting their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Anyone else getting this? Nope..

Re: Help w/ understanding scoring inconsistencies (long)

2005-04-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:50 PM 4/14/2005, Patrick Graham wrote: I am trying tryng to understand why I am getting different scoresets based on how the message is routed into spamassassin. My suspicions are that it is an issue with how spamc/spamd/spamassassin is called, or a chickenpox.cf issue, but i'm not really

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Jean Caron wrote: Really ? I never saw bayes score in the header. Sould ALL msgs have a bayes score in the header ? Here's a sample header; Received: from 80.231.10.208 by mail (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uid 1001) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:0(80.231.10.208):S

Problem with mail being rejected by friends!

2005-04-15 Thread Steven W. Orr
Recently I have been getting phone calls that friends have been getting their mail rejected by sa. I have been adding whitelist entries like crazy but I really loathe having to disable spam rejection by spamass-milter. Anyone else getting this? -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a ban

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Jean Caron
Really ? I never saw bayes score in the header. Sould ALL msgs have a bayes score in the header ? Here's a sample header; Received: from 80.231.10.208 by mail (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uid 1001) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:0(80.231.10.208):SA:0(1.5/2.0):. P

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Phil Barnett
On Friday 15 April 2005 08:03 am, Jean Caron wrote: > Again, how can I tell for sure ? Look in the header and see what the bayes score was on the FN. -- "In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a brave and scarce man, hated and scorned. When the cause succeeds, however, the timid join hi

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Jean Caron
Kevin, my comments/questions are inline. Kevin Peuhkurinen writes: Jean Caron wrote: Kevin, your assumption is correct, user accounts are on the server and spamc is used. I already have the central DB setup using bayes_path in local.cf. I think what you are saying confirms what I suspected,

Re[2]: yet another Sendmail filter for SpamAssassin daemon spamd

2005-04-15 Thread Eugene Kurmanin
> John Andersen wrote: >> On Wednesday 13 April 2005 09:57 am, Eugene Kurmanin wrote: >>> 5. Copy SPAM to the defined mailbox; >>> 6. Reject SPAM at the DATA stage, >>>    if SPAM score is greater than defined value; >>> 7. Log all activities to syslog. >> >> Well if you are going to reject, why a

Re[2]: yet another Sendmail filter for SpamAssassin daemon spamd

2005-04-15 Thread Eugene Kurmanin
> On Wednesday 13 April 2005 09:57 am, Eugene Kurmanin wrote: >> 5. Copy SPAM to the defined mailbox; >> 6. Reject SPAM at the DATA stage, >>    if SPAM score is greater than defined value; >> 7. Log all activities to syslog. > Well if you are going to reject, why also accept > and copy to mailbox

Re: sa-learn - bayes training...

2005-04-15 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Jean Caron wrote: Kevin, your assumption is correct, user accounts are on the server and spamc is used. I already have the central DB setup using bayes_path in local.cf. I think what you are saying confirms what I suspected, but it's still not 100% clear. Even though I have a central DB, all use

RE: 0 Hits on blatant spam

2005-04-15 Thread Gray, Richard
> -Original Message- > From: Tim Wesemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14 April 2005 20:18 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: 0 Hits on blatant spam > > > http://www.timuel.com/badmessage.txt > We have quite a strict filtering setup for porn related messages. Under o

Re: 0 Hits on blatant spam

2005-04-15 Thread John Wilcock
Jeff Chan wrote: The spam advertises a presumptive porn site on geocities. Yep - I've been seeing a lot of those too (and forwarding them to abuse@ geocities.com). Luckily the spammers have been consistent (at least so far) in how they name the sites, so the rule below does the trick... uri lo

Re[2]: Need for a new rule?

2005-04-15 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello SRH-Lists, Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 1:49:33 PM, you wrote: SL> I get millions (mil|ions?) of spams from this guy (well, not millions, SL> but I have recieved 15 in the last 2 hours). SL> While generic tests for character/letter obfuscation are difficult, this SL> guy is pretty predictabl

Re: SpamAssassin and Horde

2005-04-15 Thread Ângelo A . Camargo
How could i forgot checking the bugziila??? Well thank you and sorry for the wasted time. Angelo - Original Message - From: "Justin Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: Re: SpamAssassin and Horde -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 c

Re: 0 Hits on blatant spam

2005-04-15 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, April 14, 2005, 12:17:31 PM, Tim Wesemann wrote: > I've been getting alot of leak-through with 3.02 lately and I thought > this one was interesting, particularly that there are plenty of rules that > look for a certain word that rhymes with "truck" (YKWIM), but no header > rules that l

Re: Help w/ understanding scoring inconsistencies (long)

2005-04-15 Thread Loren Wilton
Obvious question: did you restart spamd after you changed the rules? Loren

Re: The stock spammer with the ||'s

2005-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 April 2005 20:30, wolfgang wrote: >In an older episode (Friday 15 April 2005 02:02), > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: >> \b means "word-ish character on one side, non-wordish character on >> the > >other" > >good explanation to help me understand my misconception, thanks. > >> | is not

Re: Re[4]: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 April 2005 21:08, wolfgang wrote: >i attach a set of rules i have been using and improving for a while > that handle stock spam, especially the || stuff. Stupid Q: As I don't have a 'stock.cf' file in the config dir now, how do I add this to the ammo box? I have moved it into tha

Help w/ understanding scoring inconsistencies (long)

2005-04-15 Thread Patrick Graham
Hello fellow sa-users, I am trying tryng to understand why I am getting different scoresets based on how the message is routed into spamassassin. My suspicions are that it is an issue with how spamc/spamd/spamassassin is called, or a chickenpox.cf issue, but i'm not really sure. Any thoughts,

Re: Re[4]: Arithmetic score for replaced O's and I's?

2005-04-15 Thread wolfgang
i attach a set of rules i have been using and improving for a while that handle stock spam, especially the || stuff. header LOCAL_STOCK_SUBJ Subject =~ /st0ck/i describe LOCAL_STOCK_SUBJ disguised term stock found rawbody LOCAL_STOCK_BODY/\bst0cks{0,1}\b/i describe L

Re: The stock spammer with the ||'s

2005-04-15 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Friday 15 April 2005 02:02), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > \b means "word-ish character on one side, non-wordish character on the other" good explanation to help me understand my misconception, thanks. > | is not a word-ish character i was aware of that, but tried to "consid

RE: The stock spammer with the ||'s

2005-04-15 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
wolfgang wrote: > i have been trying to catch those for a while, partly successfully. > thanks for the chickenpox hint, that looks like a good add-on. > > while fiddling with my rules, i noticed something strange: > rawbody SOMERULE /\bmai\|\b/ > will not work > rawbody SOMERULE /\bmai\|/ > will.