Re: A question about DCC and learning.

2018-06-16 Thread RW
On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:24:46 +0300 Reio Remma wrote: > Hello! > > I'm curious, if I turn on DCC learning, does it learn with both the > learn and report options to sa-learn or only report? There are two types of DCC test, most people only use the free version which is purely a bulk mail test.

Re: A question about DCC and learning.

2018-06-15 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 15.06.18 16:24, Reio Remma wrote: I'm curious, if I turn on DCC learning, does it learn with both the learn and report options to sa-learn or only report? sa-learn only trains bayes. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail

A question about DCC and learning.

2018-06-15 Thread Reio Remma
Hello! I'm curious, if I turn on DCC learning, does it learn with both the learn and report options to sa-learn or only report? Thanks! Reio

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 02:05 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Lindsay, if you end up doing some benchmarking, please let us know. I > wouldn't be surprised if you're actually the first one to do this across > the Internet. :) > Just a thought. Since getting message sizes and counts on traffic be

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 17:07 -0600, Michael Parker wrote: > On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > Well that's something to consider. I had hoped when I subscribed to > > this list to ask this question that I'd find people, possibly SA > > developers on it, who had benchmarked the

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-14 Thread Michael Parker
On Feb 14, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 15:04 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: I would bet on Bayes/userpref queries being more efficient than the spamc/spamd traffic. I like that you are asking the question. But I hate to guess at which is better though. The

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-14 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 15:04 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > I would bet on Bayes/userpref queries being more efficient than > the > > spamc/spamd traffic. > > I like that you are asking the question. But I hate to guess at which > is better though. The weakest benchmark data point is better than

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Kris Deugau wrote: > John Hardin wrote: >> The question is which is better, sending the message body (spamc <-> >> spamd traffic) or database queries (spamd <-> mysql traffic) over the >> expensive link? > > I would bet on Bayes/userpref queries being more efficient than the > spamc/spamd tra

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 18:11 -0500, Kris Deugau wrote: > I would bet on Bayes/userpref queries being more efficient than the > spamc/spamd traffic. I think we have a consensus here :-) I didn't get any definitive answers here but the folks who responded made me think about the problem a little mo

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Kris Deugau
John Hardin wrote: If I may try: The question is which is better, sending the message body (spamc <-> spamd traffic) or database queries (spamd <-> mysql traffic) over the expensive link? Yeah, after going back and forth I think I've finally got that. I would bet on Bayes/userpref queries

Re: Two servers, one database. A question - a correction.

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 16:51 -0600, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > Scenario 2: spamc on box A communicates with a _local_ spamd, which > accesses local config files but uses a MySQL connection _over the > network_ to box A to access the Bayes/userpref database. Sorry, this should read: Scenario 2: spa

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 17:26 -0500, Kris Deugau wrote: > *nod* I don't know what kind of data size the Bayes SQL queries run, > but it probably averages out somewhere close to a order of magnitude > less than the full email. > > I think I misread your original email, and I'm still not sure I >

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 14:27 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > If I may try: > > The question is which is better, sending the message body (spamc <-> spamd > traffic) or database queries (spamd <-> mysql traffic) over the expensive > link? Implicit point well make :-) I think I agree with you. -- L

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Kris Deugau wrote: Although I appreciate your advice, my question here is not _whether_ I should do the integration, but which of the two methods of integrating the databases will be most efficient of bandwidth and other resources. I'm getting confused again. What

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Kris Deugau
Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:24 -0600, Lindsay Haisley wrote: Although I appreciate your advice, my question here is not _whether_ I should do the integration, but which of the two methods of integrating the databases will be most efficient of bandwidth and other resources.

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Kris Deugau
Lindsay Haisley wrote: I think you misunderstand me. If spamc on machine A is invoked with -d then spamc will use whatever databases and configurations are in effect for spamd on machine B. This is what the -d option is for. The "actual processing" is done by spamd, whichever instance (machin

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:24 -0600, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > Although I appreciate your advice, my question here is not _whether_ I > should do the integration, but which of the two methods of integrating > the databases will be most efficient of bandwidth and other resources. After thinking about

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 15:21 -0500, Kris Deugau wrote: > Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > I have two servers. Currently they're both running instances of spamd > > with separate mysql databases, however I'd like run both instances from > > the same database on one of the servers. There are two ways to do

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Kris Deugau
Lindsay Haisley wrote: I have two servers. Currently they're both running instances of spamd with separate mysql databases, however I'd like run both instances from the same database on one of the servers. There are two ways to do this: 1. I can give the -d option to spamc where it's invoked i

Re: Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-13 Thread Andre
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > I have two servers. Currently they're both running instances of spamd > with separate mysql databases, however I'd like run both instances from > the same database on one of the servers. There are two ways to do this: > > 1. I can give the -d optio

Two servers, one database. A question

2009-02-12 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I have two servers. Currently they're both running instances of spamd with separate mysql databases, however I'd like run both instances from the same database on one of the servers. There are two ways to do this: 1. I can give the -d option to spamc where it's invoked in the mail system, with t

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Matt Yackley
Irina said: Hi Irina, > Thank you all for answering me. > > I found one link that may be very interesting > (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets) > > Next, I thought if there is a place for automatic uploading rules, then may > be notifying me and I would reload SA. That is what I

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo und guten Morgen jdow, Heute (am 08.06.2005 - 03:42 Uhr) schriebst Du: > I think it comes from Yiddish. maybe ;) ... long time ago kiebitzen = in German = ueber die Schulter schauen - jemand was abgucken -- Viele Grüße, Kind regards, Jim Knuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #277289867 P

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread jdow
From: "Irina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello Joanne, > I am not really sure what you meant by > kibitz the SARE process > > Sorry, English is not my native language and some words don't go together. Kibitz is what onlookers do behind the chess player's backs second guessing their efforts. I thi

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Kelson
Irina wrote: We don't use SURBL network tests because we use RBL lists from mail server itself. SURBL works differently. Most RBLs are designed to check the sending server (usually by IP address). SURBLs look at links embedded in the messages themselves. For example, if I include a link t

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Kelson
Irina wrote: I also have NOT used Bayes. Don't know how safe it is. Would I just submit a spam message and I don't have to anything else, or ham the same way? Not sure. Some people have problems with Bayes, but many find that it does help a lot. It does require you to train it with both sp

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Irina
nt: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: Re: A question > From: "Rick Macdougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Irina wrote: > > > > >Thank you all for answering me. > > > > > >I found one link that may be very interesting > > >(http:

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Irina
c: Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: A question > Irina wrote: > > >Thank you all for answering me. > > > >I found one link that may be very interesting > >(http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets) > > > > > > > >I

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
jdow wrote: From: "Rick Macdougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Irina wrote: Thank you all for answering me. I found one link that may be very interesting (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets) I first should mention, I am a new SUBSCRIBER, not a new user to SA. I h

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread jdow
From: "Rick Macdougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Irina wrote: > > >Thank you all for answering me. > > > >I found one link that may be very interesting > >(http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets) > > > > > > > >I first should mention, I am a new SUBSCRIBER, not a new user to SA. I have >

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
Irina wrote: Thank you all for answering me. I found one link that may be very interesting (http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets) I first should mention, I am a new SUBSCRIBER, not a new user to SA. I have been using it for a couple of years. Over that period I have created t

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Irina
Irina Kalachnikova Systems Programmer NetAccess Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] === - Original Message - From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Irina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:40 PM Subject:

Re: A question

2005-06-07 Thread Matt Kettler
Irina wrote: > Hello at SA list. > > I am a new subscriber - don't get angry if I did something wrong :-) > > > 1. Is there any place and/or are there any tools that are available > for updating SA rules automatically (on FreeBSD)? http://www.exit0.us/index.php?pagename=RulesDuJour Note:

A question

2005-06-07 Thread Irina
Hello at SA list.   I am a new subscriber - don't get angry if I did something wrong :-)     1.   Is there any place and/or are there any tools that are available for updating SA rules automatically (on FreeBSD)?   2.   What can I use to check on SA configuration from a Perl program (spamass

RE: a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-31 Thread Ring, John C
>>Is there a possibility that in default Exim setups, or default >>OS-specific Exim packages, the exiscan config lines are being inserted >>*without* the required message size limits, thereby allowing massive >>emails to be scanned by SpamAssassin? that would inflate scanner >>sizes nonlinearl

Re: [OT] Re: a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Dickenson
Craig Jackson wrote: Is there a possibility that in default Exim setups, or default OS-specific Exim packages, the exiscan config lines are being inserted *without* the required message size limits, thereby allowing massive emails to be scanned by SpamAssassin? that would inflate scanner sizes n

Re: a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-27 Thread Steven Dickenson
Justin Mason wrote: It appears that Exiscan has now become part of Exim by default, and it also appears that (at least in the default exiscan patch) it doesn't modify the config files directly to add itself to the MTA's flow. This is correct. The shipped configuration file doesn't include any

[OT] Re: a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-27 Thread Craig Jackson
Justin Mason wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently we've been seeing a *lot* of Exim users asking questions (here and on IRC) about spamd chewing up massive quantities of RAM. It appears that Exiscan has now become part of Exim by default, and it also appears that (at l

a question for exiscan and exim users

2005-05-27 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently we've been seeing a *lot* of Exim users asking questions (here and on IRC) about spamd chewing up massive quantities of RAM. It appears that Exiscan has now become part of Exim by default, and it also appears that (at least in the default ex