Blazing Fast Slap ya twice for ya know it JH wrote:
> A word of advice, though: your rants would be a great deal
> more impressive and might actually generate some respect for
> your opinions if they displayed a greater degree of
> sophistication than that possessed by an average seventh-gra
Bill Landry a écrit :
>> Bill Landry a écrit :
>>> Res wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
>> Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that
>> includes sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who exp
> Bill Landry a écrit :
>> Res wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
>>>
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
> Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that
> includes sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect
> people involved in
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, John Hardin wrote:
Last time I looked, Justin ran this list, not you.
you, and if Justin has a problem with it _he_ can take care of it.
Exactly.
A word of advice, though: your rants would be a great deal more impressive
Errr, I'm not here to impress anyone
and mi
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
Maybe you could add your email address to your outbound mail server's
killfile. I know that would deprive the world of your comic relief, but
What, and not have the delight of showing you for the sook and demanding
whiner that you are? not a chance :)
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
A killfile. That would be the place to put "cry babies" wouldn't it?
Good idea. Glad you thought of it. Go do it. Add me while you're at it.
Sorry dont use em, I save sooks like you for rainy weekends so i can have
more fun when I'm bored.
--
Res
Bill Landry a écrit :
> Res wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that
includes sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect
people involved in OSSP's to
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, John Hardin wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
> It's the weekend and I was bored :)
This list does not exist to provide you amusement.
Last time I looked, Justin ran this list, not you.
That's true. Fair enough, comment withdra
Res wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
>>> Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that
>>> includes sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect
>>> people involved in OSSP's to drop everything and be their
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
> Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that
> includes sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect
> people involved in OSSP's to drop everyth
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that includes
sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect people involved
in OSSP's to drop everything and be their servants.
So we'll just
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, John Hardin wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
It's the weekend and I was bored :)
This list does not exist to provide you amusement.
Last time I looked, Justin ran this list, not you.
--
Res
-Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers
On 13-Jun-2009, at 18:21, John Hardin wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
It's the weekend and I was bored :)
This list does not exist to provide you amusement.
Are you sure about that?
--
I gotta straighten my face This mellow-thighed chick just put my
spine out of place
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of that includes
sitting on mailing lists listening to cry babies who expect people involved
in OSSP's to drop everything and be their servants.
So we'll just all pretend you didn't send this message.
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
It's the weekend and I was bored :)
This list does not exist to provide you amusement.
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Truth still hurts hey, one day you might smell the coffee :)
On Sat, 13 Jun, Bill Landry as usual sooked nothing worth reading:
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Res
-Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Charles Gregory wrote:
I'm always amused by the hyporcrisy of people who spend paragraphs of text
explaining that the person they are addressing is 'not worth their time'.
It's the weekend and I was bored :)
Though now its Sunday, I have socialising to do, and none of tha
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
How long have you been on this list?
A lot longer than you might think, I don't say much here,
...
we give up our lives and work JUST to satisfy something you want, it
will never happen turdbreath, get used to it, if
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Res wrote:
my life comes before no-life whinging fucking cry baby lamers like
you.
I'm always amused by the hyporcrisy of people who spend paragraphs of text
explaining that the person they are addressing is 'not worth their time'.
- C
Res wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
>
>> I just love these kinds of responses (talk about 5yo tantrums), as they
>> only server to prove my point about your credibility and the value of
>> your opinions. Thank you! :-)
>
> truth hurts dont it landry, just like i tell those who
Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On Sat, June 13, 2009 14:31, Bill Landry wrote:
>> However, if
>> you are willing to release something to the open source community, you
>> should also be willing to take on the responsibility of providing
>> ongoing support for it.
>
> who says that ?, i have maybe missund
On Sat, June 13, 2009 14:31, Bill Landry wrote:
> However, if
> you are willing to release something to the open source community, you
> should also be willing to take on the responsibility of providing
> ongoing support for it.
who says that ?, i have maybe missunderstod gpl licenses ?, its far
John Rudd wrote:
> Further, Bill, I don't answer to you for my time constraints. Now
> quit your whining and put your money where your mouth is. If it's so
> important, then provide a fix that replaces Net::DNS with SA's
> internal DNS routines, and I'll use it. If it's not important enough
> t
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
I just love these kinds of responses (talk about 5yo tantrums), as they
only server to prove my point about your credibility and the value of
your opinions. Thank you! :-)
truth hurts dont it landry, just like i tell those who "demand" extra
capabilit
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
Res wrote:
No because I seem to have reliable DNS and have never exhibited the issue.
Oh, and if in fact you "really" had a clue, you would know that "DNS
reliability" has absolutely nothing to do with this issue... ;-)
funny, given most people dont
Res wrote:
> No because I seem to have reliable DNS and have never exhibited the issue.
Oh, and if in fact you "really" had a clue, you would know that "DNS
reliability" has absolutely nothing to do with this issue... ;-)
Bill
I just love these kinds of responses (talk about 5yo tantrums), as they
only server to prove my point about your credibility and the value of
your opinions. Thank you! :-)
Bill
Res wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
>
>>> I'm sure John might be happier to stay awake later and wor
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Bill Landry wrote:
I'm sure John might be happier to stay awake later and work on it for a
hour or so each night as a 'priority' *IF* Bill was willing to pay
John for his time, but I suspect not somehow, as it is far easier to come
on a mailing list and have a temper tantru
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, LuKreme wrote:
So if I may recommend: Why not include the patch as a separate file in your
download,
John explained why. This patch does not represent the direction he
wants to go with Botnet. Remember that comment about design philosophy?
When he GOES in that direction, t
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 07:39:58PM -0600, LuKreme wrote:
>
>> But I would never guess from the package that a patch was available
>> or
>> useful.
>
> It is useful for SOME people under SOME conditions. It is not
> *universally* useful.
It's not universally useful to have some *basic* sanit
On 11-Jun-2009, at 13:45, Charles Gregory wrote:
2) I disagree that another person could/should 'fork' the botnet
plug-in.
This would cause confusion even if care was taken to rename the
plug-in
or otherwise distinguish the two versions for the newbie looking to
download a recommended p
>> This issue has been unresolved for way too long. All of this, in my
>> mind, this makes the plugin orphaned and unusable if not patched with
>> Mark's patch.
>
> Actually it's a patch by Daniel J McDonald from 2007-06-15.
> I just refreshed it for 0.8 and reposted it two months later.
> Credits
> This issue has been unresolved for way too long. All of this, in my
> mind, this makes the plugin orphaned and unusable if not patched with
> Mark's patch.
Actually it's a patch by Daniel J McDonald from 2007-06-15.
I just refreshed it for 0.8 and reposted it two months later.
Credits where cre
>> Well I suppose you could always take the product that you dislike so
>> badly back to the store and ask for a refund of your purchase price.
>> Sometimes it really amazes me how much, and how severely, some people
>> will gripe about free products that exist only because other people
>> volunte
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Kevin Parris wrote:
Well I suppose you could always take the product that you dislike so badly back
to the store and ask for a refund of your purchase price. Sometimes it really
amazes me how much, and how severely, some people will gripe about free
products that exist o
John Hardin wrote ... (6/11/2009 4:21 PM):
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, John Rudd wrote:
>
>> As I've said, I don't really have a plan to incorporate the patch
>> into the main dist.
>
> You probably should. It doesn't prevent you from pursuing your design
> changes, and it would fix the problem for thos
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, John Rudd wrote:
As I've said, I don't really have a plan to incorporate the patch into
the main dist.
You probably should. It doesn't prevent you from pursuing your design
changes, and it would fix the problem for those who are experiencing the
problem today.
Is it tr
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:17:12PM -0400, Kevin Parris wrote:
>
> Well I suppose you could always take the product that you dislike so badly
> back to the store and ask for a refund of your purchase price. Sometimes
> it really amazes me how much, and how severely, some people will gripe
> about f
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:45, Charles Gregory wrote:
>
> With respect, your concerns about
> required testing are at the least, exaggerated. The testing has been
> done by everyone who uses the patch.
a) thank you for your well worded thoughts
b) my statement about the time it would take is
Hello all!
If I may weigh in on this botnet/dns issue
1) John I completely respect (indeed advocate) the right of volunteers to
do as they wish with their time. In all that I say that follows, I keep
that first in mind. I speak of principles, but make NO demands on your
time.
2) I d
Well I suppose you could always take the product that you dislike so badly back
to the store and ask for a refund of your purchase price. Sometimes it really
amazes me how much, and how severely, some people will gripe about free
products that exist only because other people volunteer their tim
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:21:18AM -0700, John Rudd wrote:
>
> As said elsewhere, the primary issue is how DNS is being set up, both
> by the sender and the recipient. But that's outside of the scope of
> Botnet. Within Botnet, the actual thing to be solved is moving toward
> SA's internal DNS r
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:46, Bill Landry wrote:
> McDonald, Dan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:40 -0700, John Rudd wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 21:11, Bill Landry wrote:
Jake Maul wrote:
> Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
> Botnet on this s
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:04:42AM -0400, Rob McEwen wrote:
> Bill Landry wrote:
> > This issue has been unresolved for way too long. All of this, in my
> > mind, this makes the plugin orphaned and unusable if not patched with
> > Mark's patch.
>
> No matter how hard you try to improve botnet:
N
> I've had no trouble with Botnet timeouts, but just now patched anyway,
> to avoid any potential trouble. I, and many others appreciate how
> responsive you've been with your sanesecurity work, but not everyone has
> the same resources.
> Whenever I install GNU free sof
I've had no trouble with Botnet timeouts, but just now patched anyway,
to avoid any potential trouble. I, and many others appreciate how
responsive you've been with your sanesecurity work, but not everyone has
the same resources.
Whenever I install GNU free software, I have to remembe
Bill Landry wrote:
> This issue has been unresolved for way too long. All of this, in my
> mind, this makes the plugin orphaned and unusable if not patched with
> Mark's patch.
No matter how hard you try to improve botnet:
(A) botnet is still dependent on third party dns servers, many of which
a
McDonald, Dan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:40 -0700, John Rudd wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 21:11, Bill Landry wrote:
>>> Jake Maul wrote:
Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
Thanks
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:40 -0700, John Rudd wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 21:11, Bill Landry wrote:
> > Jake Maul wrote:
> >> Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
> >> Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the link, shorter ti
On Wed, June 10, 2009 21:05, Jake Maul wrote:
> The last couple days I've been seeing a lot of Botnet-related
> timeouts. Obviously the Botnet plugin itself hasn't changed...
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217261
> DNS problems maybe? Anyone else seen this? It's causing my SA children
>
John Rudd wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 21:11, Bill Landry wrote:
>> Jake Maul wrote:
>>> Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
>>> Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link, shorter timeouts should cure it. :)
>> Even though
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 21:11, Bill Landry wrote:
> Jake Maul wrote:
>> Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
>> Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
>>
>> Thanks for the link, shorter timeouts should cure it. :)
>
> Even though Mark Martinec had prov
Jake Maul wrote:
> Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
> Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
>
> Thanks for the link, shorter timeouts should cure it. :)
Even though Mark Martinec had provided John Rudd with a nice, neat patch
for botnet.pm well
Interesting that I'm just now running into this... I've been using
Botnet on this server for several months without issue.
Thanks for the link, shorter timeouts should cure it. :)
Jake
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Jason Haar wrote:
> On 06/11/2009 07:05 AM, Jake Maul wrote:
>> Howdy all,
>>
On 06/11/2009 07:05 AM, Jake Maul wrote:
> Howdy all,
>
> The last couple days I've been seeing a lot of Botnet-related
> timeouts. Obviously the Botnet plugin itself hasn't changed...
>
> DNS problems maybe? Anyone else seen this? It's causing my SA children
> to hang and for the server to hit the
Howdy all,
The last couple days I've been seeing a lot of Botnet-related
timeouts. Obviously the Botnet plugin itself hasn't changed...
DNS problems maybe? Anyone else seen this? It's causing my SA children
to hang and for the server to hit the max-children setting. I had to
disable Botnet to get
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