Now I see the motivation. Money. Fast, easy, unearned, grant money from
the taxpayers.
I am disgusted to my core.
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From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:54 PM
Subject:
Why on earth would you want to be a "public utility"?
There are no small businesses in the public utility sector.
There are no small business entries into the public utility sector.
There is no innovation in the public utility sector.
Public utilities are the least competitive and efficient bus
This is an excerpt from a comment filed by a state representative from
Kansas:
"As a state policy-maker attempting to develop incentives that will induce
broadband
providers (particularly the larger DSL and cable companies) to use multiple
technologies
to reach beyond city limits, FCC data prov
I'm going to ask that we oppose this in its entirety, due to it giving away
information we really don't need given away.
Whatever your take... please file. ... something.
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From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTEC
NS2.SPEEDINGBITS.COM
> Created by Registrar:GODADDY.COM, INC.
> Last Updated by Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
> Domain Registration Date: Fri Sep 03 17:53:00 G
This is where I am sadly going to post to you sometime in the near future...
I told you so.
And that will be the saddest day for all of us.
I have no "unfounded fears". I just read and understand precisely what
these things mean. It won't be the first one, it won't be the second one.
It ma
Like it should be, snapped in.
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topicchange- Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast OverWeb Bloc
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From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> Are you delibera
- Original Message -
From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> Are you delibera
Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why WISPA should
organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every WISP they could get to
act, to say "This cannot be done".
Before they even bothered to read half of them, the FCC would have been in
the process of asking INDUSTRY ho
I have a better idea. Explain how you do that.
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From: "Forrest W Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade
AssociationWas:Report:FCCtoP
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From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association
Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Ch
I still don't get it. I really don't.
CALEA was designed for a telco network. It is simply NOT APPLICABLE in
design or function to a multi-homed IP network.
I keep hearing how so much time and effort was put into this... But I can
explain in plain, clear, and unmistakeable language to any re
Forrest, the notion that some networks can't be sniffed was certainly given
some time back when and somewhat addressed - although more along the lines
of "why on earth would you NOT have a single point of failure network?", as
if that's a good thing. I'd like to note that according to recent
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report:
FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking
> You don't get it. CAL
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From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association Was: Report: FCC to
PunishComcast Over Web Blocking
>
> I will got out here a
This is what I don't get.
I reminded the OP that several ranking members of WISPA have declared
"objecting to mandates" as "politics".
And, unless I have missed something, WISPA has NEVER officially objected to
a single thing the FCC has wanted or gotten or demanded, and if someone
suggests th
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking
> Does the FCC have jurisdiction over all the bit-content pas
You have a nearby consultant in www.wholesalesolar.com
I have bought equipment from them and consulted with them and found Mark to
be better than excellent.
I have no business relationship to them other than being an occaisional
customer.
- Original Mes
My experience selling broadband to rural dialup customers mirrors this.
I've found that in areas where I am the SOLE option, I get about 30 to 50%
take rates. I get about 75% of the 'net user. However, about 25% or so, of
those who use internet will remain on dialup and will not pay $10 more p
If you have the money to buy - pay for in full - oil and wait until winter,
then what business is it of ours? Again, we're discussing OWNERSHIP here,
which is where I drew my line. As for this action, a lot of farmers and
homeowners fill their heating oil tanks at opportune times. I fail to
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
> If you buy a security, the prices rises, you sell the secur
How so?
How does buying ownership in a publicly owned entity inflate the c ost of a
needed commodity?
obviously, there must be a marketplace to buy and sell commodities... And
those who sell, to those who buy, for purposes of buying and selling
commodities for use seems perfectly legitemate t
- Original Message -
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP
>I do not think we should build our networks for the "sole purpos
It does mine.
Inflating the price of a needed commodity - that is, increasing it with no
added value - is unethical, in my estimation.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, July
I know that a certain number of us ARE going to build a network for the sole
purpose of suckering...errr, selling it to someone else.
Now, I have severe ethical disagreements with this notion. It reminds me
of "flipping houses" or "speculative oil investing", perhaps?
Now, to build a business
I am reminded of a short story I read many years ago. A salesman for farm
equipment was out calling on customers in middle America and following his
directions found himself turning off the maintained county road into a side
road and was immediately confronted with a wide, very deeply rutted,
The energy level for backoff CAN be adjusted.
The FCC says that NEITHER is acceptable, and even though the atheros
mechanism is just an "energy detection", it will not be allowed. This is
what I gathered from an assortment of emails on the topic, some of which
were from the FCC to someone wa
That's nice, but in real life the FCC has simply gotten on a tear and
decided that NOTHING qualifies for what they want.
I have no idea what the purpose of this rather odd bit of nonsense is about,
but when it declares that 802.11 "does not detect dissimilar systems", then
nothing can EVER be m
The problem, here Tony, is that the MAC's and PHY that accomlishes this kind
of performance isn't built into chipsets that are mass produced like
consumer chipsets are. Even I'm going to end up with Atheros based 3.6 ghz
products, because nothing else currently makes any sense at all, dollar
Tony, the average Wisp is NOT a cellular company and cannot invest 50K per
AP and 800 per CPE.
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Un
In my area, a local WISP applied for every loan and grant that exists for a
hundred miles or more in all directions.They didn't use any of the loan
proceeds, but it prevented anyone else from getting it - which was what they
were after.
- Original Mes
This is really confusing, George. WISPA's self described job is to lobby
the FCC and regulators.
When it's suggested WISPA should provide statements in opposition to bad
things they want to do, you say "it's politics".
If it's politics to say that this industry should defend itself from exces
I have been using one since June of 2004.
I had the controller board fail about a year and a half ago, and ended up
replacing it 3 times. The first replacement didn't work. The second one
worked briefly, the third one was improperly assembled and caused the
brushes to stop working and damag
You can find them retail for less than 600 at www.wholesalesolar.com
Very good people there, too.
I have no connection to this company, other than being a customer.
- Original Message -
From: "Joe Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Guess who doesn't really believe in Free Speech.
I get ripped here endlessly because I talk about how WE should stand up for
responsibility, our own economic and business liberty and here's a good
example.
Shall WISPA, et al, write position papers on how to block usenet groups, or
should we pu
Actually, we need a little more information to answer this...
Is this for a hot spot?
Is this for fixed service?
Is this for a mobile (clients in a park, for instance) service?
Star-OS recently added an upper and lower limiter to radio sensitivity. In
point to point links, you can bracket the
Marlon, I have been using Star-OS since the beginning here. Means four
years of using it.
It is the fastest, easiest, and best performing of anything I've tried.
They're so right about not bridging, but if you need any assistance, give me
a shout. It's not even that far if you want a hands o
The FCC wants to put you out of business by getting someone to provide
internet for free to your customers.
With FRIENDS like that, who needs enemies?
- Original Message -
From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Frid
Approval by getting your FCC cert ID means it qualifies, period.
And yes, 802.11 is "contention based" but the FCC refuses to allow 802.11 to
be approved for the full spectrum until some 802.something standard is
finalized.
- Original Message -
Fro
Yes.
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations (was: Rapid Link Launches WiMax)
> Does that apply to part 15 modular appro
I've been in contact with UBNT for some time.The modular approval
specifies the antenna to be used, and it is, according to both the FCC (
email from the FCC in response to an inquiry ) and UBNT entirely legal to
use with any OS that properly operates the card.
So, yes you can grow your own
What does this have to do with "militia"?This is plain old business
sense talking. There's a very observable business history, and we're all
businessmen. Nothing I've said is in any way strange or even not well
known. I'd just like to know what on earth people think they're going to
ge
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Yunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
> With the mergers of Cingular and AT&T and Nextel and Sprint, roughly half
> of
> all cell phone users in the U.S. have had
That's really a non-response to the issue.
As a WISP, I travel the public roads, does this make me a "regulated
industry"? Of course not. I am still bound by the rules of the road,
however.
But just driving the public highway does not obligate me to buy a car for
the cop when his breaks, ou
You make my case for me.
If ISP's become "fully regulated" there will only be the telcos.
Thanks for agreeing.
Our survival DEPENDS on not being 'regulated'.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
That last part about being "full regulated" should be fought to our last
breath.It's our only means of survival.
- Original Message -
From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject:
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Yunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
> Travis,
>
> I agree wholeheartedly that a customer should be held to the terms of a
> cont
- Original Message -
From: "Larry Yunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
>I think that the FCC has a bona fide reason for addressing the early
> termination fee issu
Did we learn nothing from my last outburst?We can't say the FCC is
overstepping it's bounds, that's just radical conspiracy style politics,
remember?
And if we tell the FCC it has overstepped it's bounds, the poor souls we
send to DC will just be twisting in the wind, red-faced at our redne
Is anyone on this list operating in the Oshkosh, WI area?
I may be interested in connectivety for an event in 09 - approximately 15
days.
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Yeah, I learned that even Kurt can get a LOT dumber by consuming alcohol
And then trying to talk on the cell phone
Oh, and NEVER give Johnny the keys to the rental jeep. At least not if
there's mud around...
HAHAHAHAHAH
- Original Message
- Original Message -
From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calling JohnnyO...
> This is FUNNY - Where is Rick Smith ?
>
> Kurt - do you remember sha
My last word from Johnny about 2 weeks ago was that he had gotten into a
Shrimp boat was about to start a fishing career?
If you knew him It wouldn't really seem strange...
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Patient" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA
I have only t ried one or two of the 2.4 only cards, but they worked just
fine.
I have, however, used a ton of the AG p23 cards and aside from the rare one
going deaf, I've not seen that.
Biggest reason for them to fail to associate in star-os for me, is that I
failed to set the distance... :
A little more information might be in order...
Did this domain exist before?Did it lapse and then get re-registered?
I had this happen to me, a client wanted a domain, which I obtained for him,
and set up his email addresses, which were instantly spammed. And, spammed
by a huge array of sp
...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just
compensation.
I don't consider that "negotiable".
Just wanted to be clear with you about what part I referred to.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To
This reminds me, someone is out there, somewhere, who is anonymously saying
that 3650 can be used without a license...
How does that stuff get started?
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 200
Hi John.
- Original Message -
From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach
>I usually bite my tongue when I see peopl
I'm trying to. Still waiting for certified radios to arrive. Promised
last week, but delayed...
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:55 AM
Subject: [WISPA] 3.650
> Hi A
Below.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new method for tracking broadband’s reach
> Hold your horses there a bit, the FCC is ta
They have EVERY FREAKING CHOICE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD.
They could hire a research company to physically find out and map it. they
could poll the public and extrapolate. They could do ANY number of things
that are NOT invasive to my business, my time, and my money.
And instead of filing 200
There's a couple of nicely elegant options here... One is that you NAT only
at your core point(s), and at that point you do a 1:1 IP translation. You
can then choose who has direct IP connection and who doesn't at your core
points, without any additional routing. For those who don't, you mere
I kinda think that the news about municipal operatoins would provide
reasonable evidence why public provision of such is is SUCH a bad idea...
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck McCown - 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday,
I just got back from Eskimo land. How ironic... :)
Estimated c ost of operating the network is 3.6 million.
100,000 estimated possible customers.
36 dollars operating cost per customer, estimated.
6000 actual customers.
600 dollars per customer operating costs.
Could someone tell me what th
I"m going to repost a response I made privately, leaving off the other
person... I want to be clear what's really bothering me lately.
==
Maybe I should be more clear. I fail to see why I should have to conduct
even 1 minute's free labor... The results of which are going to result
abso
Sigh.
I am in an industry filled with jellyfish.
It is unbelievably depressing.
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new meth
I'm curious to know WISPA's official position on this is.
Looking back in the archives, I see little discussion about this, but the
only way this information is going to be obtained, is if ISP's are required
to determine the location of each census unit and then plot on maps of the
census unit
My customers on average consume about 5 gigs each.
I suspect 10% use about 75% of the traffic.
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA List"
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:23 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Metered Broadband
My apologies for mis-titling a posting.
Again, the question, in the right thread name :(
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Plesk
> How many people have licenses and how are you using 3.65ghz?
>
> backhauls, as pt
How many people have licenses and how are you using 3.65ghz?
backhauls, as ptmp, or a mixture...
Or, have you not found a way to use it yet?
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