[Xpert]Re: [Dri-devel] my X-Kernel question

2001-10-21 Thread Peter Surda
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:48:56AM +0100, MichaelM wrote: >Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a >kernel? Direct 3d graphics supported from the boot sequence. Hmm I thought DRI is part of the kernel? Perhaps you meant the DRM part of it. >I'm really con

Re: [Xpert]insufficient control over monitor gamma

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > The XFree interface only lets me specify a gamma value, not a curve. > It generates a curve from that number in the traditional way, and the > curve generated does not touch fully saturated colors. So only colors > at low-to-medium saturation levels a

[Xpert]insufficient control over monitor gamma

2001-10-21 Thread Jamie Zawinski
A bug was reported against xscreensaver in Debian (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=105372) which is really a deficiency in XFree. They asked me to forward my comments here... Anyway, the original complaint is this: when xscreensaver is fading the whole screen to black, very brig

Re: [Xpert]ATI Mach64 feature requests

2001-10-21 Thread George Staikos
Hmm forgot to cc: the list on this... On Sunday 21 October 2001 19:02, Mike A. Harris wrote: > I'm curious as to what features of the ATI Mach64 variants that > people would like to see supported or supported better in XFree86 > that are either not currently supported, or are supported poorly. >

Re: [Xpert]ATI Mach64 feature requests

2001-10-21 Thread Peter Surda
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 07:02:42PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: Hi Mike! > I'm curious as to what features of the ATI Mach64 variants that > people would like to see supported or supported better in XFree86 > that are either not currently supported, or are supported poorly. > > The first thing

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread Peter Surda
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 10:11:36AM -0700, Billy Biggs wrote: > How do the ATI cards currently export TV output capabilities when you're > writing interlaced frames? Hmm you can ask the card stuff like: - are you drawing or retracing? - are you drawing an odd or even frame? I am not sure if you c

[Xpert]Invalid OpenGL call crashes X server

2001-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
Here's a bug report I got from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Can someone help out with this, please? -- G. Branden Robinson| Suffer before God and ye shall be Debian GNU/Linux | redeemed. God loves us, so He [EMAIL PROTECTED] | makes us suff

Re: [Xpert]ATI Mach64 feature requests

2001-10-21 Thread Shawn Starr
Would be nice to have DRI yes :-) ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 41) is my model :-) Shawn. On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Mike A. Harris wrote: > I'm curious as to what features of the ATI Mach64 variants that > people would like to see supported or supported better in XFree8

Re: [Xpert]xkb+grabbing+intl. keyboard: mode_switch does not work?

2001-10-21 Thread Alexander Zangerl
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 17:32:43 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If the application is using only XLookupString to get keyboard input, then >it will not get properly composed characters (unless there is some hack in >Xlib). Implementing support for 8 bit input characters is easy, and normally >can

[Xpert]ATI Mach64 feature requests

2001-10-21 Thread Mike A. Harris
I'm curious as to what features of the ATI Mach64 variants that people would like to see supported or supported better in XFree86 that are either not currently supported, or are supported poorly. The first things that come to mind are: 1) DRI support 2) Xvideo support, video in/out, TV tuner,

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Brosius
Matthew Reppert wrote: > > > Kevin Brosius wrote: > > > > > Are there modules in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules? And does the bitmap module > > exist there? (It's normally down a level, fonts/libbitmap.a.) > > Yes, it's there. > > Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been > c

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2001-10-22 at 00:13, Matthew Reppert wrote: > Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been > compiling with gcc under linux, I didn't think twice about my GNU > binutils, but I'm using the most recent release of them, 2.11.2. Think > that's the problem? (I should've mad

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
Kevin Brosius wrote: > > Are there modules in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules? And does the bitmap module > exist there? (It's normally down a level, fonts/libbitmap.a.) Yes, it's there. Okay ... this is GNU binutils. Since I've seen people have been compiling with gcc under linux, I didn't think tw

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Brosius
Matthew Reppert wrote: > > > Kevin Brosius wrote: > > > >Matthew Reppert wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out > >> to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from > >> source, one of which being X. Well, the buil

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
Kevin Brosius wrote: > Matthew Reppert wrote: > >>Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X >>always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module >>'bitmap')? >> >>http://128.101.183.76:8080/xlogs/ >> >>Matt >> >> > > What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config look like? Would yo

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Brosius
Matthew Reppert wrote: > > > Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X > always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module > 'bitmap')? > > http://128.101.183.76:8080/xlogs/ > > Matt > What does your /etc/X11/XF86Config look like? Would you add it to this directory

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm talking about planning how many refreshes to show each frame. I'd > > be really surprised if you could say to the ATI card 'show this 2 > > refreshes from now'. > > The card won't do that, but the driver can. In this case what you do is > s

Re: [Xpert]Random X crashes or total lockups

2001-10-21 Thread Matthias Dahl
Hey there... ]) powered by LINUX, preemptible kernel 2.4.12-ac3 ([ > Not necessarily, for some strange reason when I tell vlc to go fullscreen it > causes a X lockup as well (screen goes blue), I have to kill vlc and X over > ssh. No other player (mplayer, aviplay) does that on my r12

Re: [Xpert]riva 128 PCI Gamma correction broken

2001-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > when using gamma correction Xserver "forgots" to do gamma when scrolling > > and few other ops making pictures broken.. > > > >The Riva128 doesn't support gamma correction except in 8bpp. > I'll look into making it ignore the requests for the

Re: [Xpert]riva 128 PCI Gamma correction broken

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > when using gamma correction Xserver "forgots" to do gamma when scrolling > and few other ops making pictures broken.. > The Riva128 doesn't support gamma correction except in 8bpp. I'll look into making it ignore the requests for the other dept

Re: [Xpert]dual-monitor screen position help!B

2001-10-21 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Richard Ferguson wrote: > Hello, > I am working with a dual monitor setup and am having difficulty getting the > screens positioned how I would like them. > > Description: > > Screen1 is the main screen and is the larger of the two and sits to the > right. Screen2 is

[Xpert]Re: XFree 4.1

2001-10-21 Thread landonr1
On Sunday, October 21, 2001, at 10:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just downloaded Xfree86 Darwin-ppc. When I run it I get the Folowing: > [localhost:/usr/X11R6/bin] jakpuma% ./XDarwin -quartz > Running in parallel with Mac OS X Quartz window server. > > XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window Syst

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sun, 2001-10-21 at 21:20, Matthew Reppert wrote: > > What about posting the relevant parts of the X server log? Okay, this is the entire contents of XFree86.0.log. START == XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Win

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2001-10-21 at 21:20, Matthew Reppert wrote: > Any ideas on more specifically where to look, given that X > always crashes in exactly the same place (loading module > 'bitmap')? What about posting the relevant parts of the X server log? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
Kevin Brosius wrote: > >Matthew Reppert wrote: > >> >> Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out >> to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from >> source, one of which being X. Well, the build goes along fine, but the >> binaries that

Re: [Xpert]xkb+grabbing+intl. keyboard: mode_switch does not work?

2001-10-21 Thread pcpa
Cópia Alexander Zangerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi, > i'm running 3.3.6, and was up to now using xkb for my german keyboard. > > the problem i've encountered is: > programs like xscreensaver, quintuple-agent etc. that are grabbing > the keyboard for passphrase input cannot receive input that is

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
Munir Nassar wrote: > What compiler are you using? i am not aware of any > certain compiler quirks but it is possible, gcc 2.95.3. (yanked from a make World log) Building on Linux 2.4.12 i686 [ELF] (2.4.12). Linux Distribution: Unknown libc version: 6.2.4 binutils version: 3.1 GCC version

Re: [Xpert]shared and static extension libraries re(^6)-visited

2001-10-21 Thread Matthieu Herrb
Branden Robinson wrote (in a message from Thursday 18) > I'd like to solicit opinions, especially from the Core Team, about the > shared vs. static extension library situation. Debian just went through > a bit of pain and suffering as regards SDL in our development branch, > partly because w

[Xpert]Multihead + 4.1 problems

2001-10-21 Thread Nate Smith
Hi, I'm experiencing problems since upgrading to 4.1 in the 'testing' debian distribution (woody). I've used multiheaded Xfree86 since the 4.0-pre releases, and it's always worked quite well using three Matrox Millenium I's. When I upgraded from 4.02 to 4.1.0-7 I cannot start in multiheaded

Re: [Xpert]deadkeys

2001-10-21 Thread pcpa
Cópia Thiago Sayao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Oi, > Deadkeys are not working on my XFree! > it works on the console. See the file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/X0-config.keyboard, it's contents should be something like: -- Rules= "xfree86" Model= "pc105"

Re: [Xpert]xkb+grabbing+intl. keyboard: mode_switch does not work?

2001-10-21 Thread Owen Taylor
Alexander Zangerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > i'm running 3.3.6, and was up to now using xkb for my german keyboard. > > the problem i've encountered is: > programs like xscreensaver, quintuple-agent etc. that are grabbing > the keyboard for passphrase input cannot receive input that is gener

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Kevin Brosius
Matthew Reppert wrote: > > > Hi, I have an AIW Radeon :) The general concensus on getting TV in/out > to work for this card is that you HAVE to recompile a few things from > source, one of which being X. Well, the build goes along fine, but the > binaries that it makes segfault as soon as it sta

Re: [Xpert]Building 4.1.0 on Linux results in segfaulting binaries

2001-10-21 Thread Matthew Reppert
> The Radeon was not yet fully supported in the release > version of XFree4.1, and the Source packages will > probably not work, or not work well. > > Checkout the sources through CVS, most radeon issues > were fixed months ago. Well ... first, it didn't even get to loading the driver for my ca

[Xpert]riva 128 PCI Gamma correction broken

2001-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
when using gamma correction Xserver "forgots" to do gamma when scrolling and few other ops making pictures broken.. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread Billy Biggs
Vladimir Dergachev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm talking about planning how many refreshes to show each frame. > > I'd be really surprised if you could say to the ATI card 'show this > > 2 refreshes from now'. > > The card won't do that, but the driver can. In this case what you do > is submit a

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread volodya
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Billy Biggs wrote: > Vladimir Dergachev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > and hope that someone in the kernel has an accurate clock. It would > > > also need to tell me the (exact) refresh rate + sync point. > > > > _You_ don't need to know that. All you need is to tell the c

[Xpert]XFree 4.1

2001-10-21 Thread landonr1
I just downloaded Xfree86 Darwin-ppc. When I run it I get the Folowing: [localhost:/usr/X11R6/bin] jakpuma% ./XDarwin -quartz Running in parallel with Mac OS X Quartz window server. XFree86 Version 4.1.0 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) Release Date: 2 June

[Xpert]Re: 320x204 resolution

2001-10-21 Thread Luie delos Santos
thanks... i'll download the Xfree86 4.1.0. will let you know the results as soon as i try it. luie >LdS> where can I find this vesa driver and Xvesa server. >LdS> thanks... > >In XFree86 4.1.0 and later. > >The vesa driver is built by default, and is documented in its manual >page. > >The Xv

[Xpert]dual-monitor screen position help!

2001-10-21 Thread Richard Ferguson
Hello, I am working with a dual monitor setup and am having difficulty getting the screens positioned how I would like them. Description: Screen1 is the main screen and is the larger of the two and sits to the right. Screen2 is smaller and sits off to the left. I would idealy have the

[Xpert]patch to fix i815 timing out on VT switch

2001-10-21 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
I asked: > Has anyone else had problems with VT switching with the i810 driver > since the DRI resync and/or the i830 additions about 2 weeks ago ? Abraham vd Merwe replied: > > I submitted a patch for this a day or two ago. It should be fixed (for 830M > > at least) as soon as someone apply the

[Xpert]xkb+grabbing+intl. keyboard: mode_switch does not work?

2001-10-21 Thread Alexander Zangerl
i'm running 3.3.6, and was up to now using xkb for my german keyboard. the problem i've encountered is: programs like xscreensaver, quintuple-agent etc. that are grabbing the keyboard for passphrase input cannot receive input that is generated using mode_switch+key, eg. @ (mode_switch+q). i've

Re: [Xpert]Random X crashes or total lockups

2001-10-21 Thread Matthias Dahl
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 07:07:03PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > Hey there... ]) powered by LINUX, preemptible kernel 2.4.12-ac3 ([ > Sounds more like you have a kernel bug. I should have removed that line from my mail because that's what everyone is suspecting first. :-) I wou

Fw: [Xpert]Fw: XShmPutImage

2001-10-21 Thread Michael Zayats
sorry guys, the only problem was in the order of parameters to XShmPutImage, thank you all! > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Michael Zayats wrote: > > > > > help, anybody? > > > > > > P.S. forgot to mention that XShmPutImage always returns me -1, what's > that? > > > >Looking at the code for XShmPu

Re: [Xpert]Fw: XShmPutImage

2001-10-21 Thread Michael Zayats
- Original Message - From: Mark Vojkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Xpert]Fw: XShmPutImage > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Michael Zayats wrote: > > > help, anybody? > > > > P.S. forgot to mention that XShmPutImage always

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread Billy Biggs
Vladimir Dergachev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > and hope that someone in the kernel has an accurate clock. It would > > also need to tell me the (exact) refresh rate + sync point. > > _You_ don't need to know that. All you need is to tell the card: > display this frame after sync. It will do the re

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread volodya
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Peter Surda wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 06:45:07AM -0700, Billy Biggs wrote: > > > > The +/-5ms error here is visible, especially on big cinematic pans. > > > I REALLY doubt what you perceive as an error is a 5ms difference. > > No? I'll post up a good example later

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and refresh sync

2001-10-21 Thread volodya
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Billy Biggs wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > If we had the vsync as an interrupt (/dev/vsync or something), > > > then quality would increase with less system load! Very nice! > > > But SCHED_FIFO would still be needed to guarentee accurate blits.

Re: [Xpert]Re: XVideo and interlaced input

2001-10-21 Thread volodya
On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Billy Biggs wrote: > > > Mark Vojkovich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > >It doesn't work that way. There's no such thing as subpixel > > > destinations so you have to stop thinking about it that way. You have > > > integer r