sections in the configuration. The logs show no errors,
just that DPMS was loaded successfully.
I assume that the problem stays with a particular head
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which need an 8bit visual are too stupid to look beyond the default :-(.
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, is that on average using the default setup gives more accurate
color than trusting the info provided by the monitor itself :-(
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Now two implementations:
http://www.realvnc.com/
and
http://www.tightvnc.com/
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full of TrueType fonts.
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be very slow
when *reading* AGP memory (I don't think this is your problem since that
happens when the window is large).
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(These machines are all running Red Hat 6.2)
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Sometimes pixmaps are stored in offscreen video memory, sometimes
in system memory. Maybe you are resizing your window such that the pixmaps
don't fit in video memory so the server puts some in system memory
that the manufacturers consider to be acceptable.
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stuff, but I think this means it is out of
video memory. I note that your graphics card only has 16Mb.
If I'm wrong and it is complaining about system memory, swap wouldn't
help - it is very unlikely that your disk could feed data to the
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, since From addresses can be forged.
If we do it, I'd give mail a negative scored for coming from a subscriber,
so that it still gets tested for content and viruses.
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Where does the pointer come in ?
I'm not saying that for a flight simulator it isn't useful to have
more than one mouse or trackball; I'm all in favour of an X
extension for that (I wouldn't be suprised to hear that there
already is one
(usually the window
in which you can type). How would you use 2 pointers ?
* I do see the point in using two mice, scroll-wheels or trackballs:
to allow applications to control more things.
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*Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt
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(immediately, at least)
find mailman's archives at the Web site. Meanwhile, FTP connections
to ftp.xfree86.org are timing out.
The box which services ftp.xfree86.org died on Friday.
I don't know whether that would affect pipermail archives.
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240 MHz
so
Modeline 2048x1536@60 238.8 2048 2136 2232 2488 1536 1552 1568 1600
many work, or you may need to experiment by adding +hsync, -hsync,
+vsync and or -vsync at the end of that line.
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) are worth.
I tried thousends options, PanelSize, composite_sync, NoDDC... None
of them had any effect.
You don't mention Interlace which is a flag on ModeLine.
PAL TV pictures are interlaced, so that might help, although
the card might be doing that already.
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) that the mapping from the pci
ids to the sockets on the card ? (I have no reason to doubt that
it is, but it is worth ruling it out).
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new card without
the driver on the CD included with the card ?
Perhaps you should insist on a card with XFree86 drivers on that CD;
I have one, so they do exist.
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I'd like confirmation that it supports these visuals, and isn't just
advertising support.
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key support added (Keith Packard)
which is later than 4.2.1
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the memory like our mga driver does for dual-head
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it would need either two event queues, or a new parameter
in the event queue to say which input group created the event.
I don't know that area, but I'm not sure that such a change could be done
without changing the protocol.
I really don't like the sound of that.
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On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:35 am, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
I think it would need either two event queues, or a new parameter
in the event queue to say which input group created the event.
I don't know that area, but I'm not sure
window manager on the display, not the remote
machine.
If not go for a lightweight window manager.
Also avoid fancy backgrounds and other image heavy applications.
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On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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That is a success;
/root/XF86Config.new should have some info about the monitor.
Some, but not much.
Section Monitor
#DisplaySize 330 270 # mm
be a red herring.
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, and there are objections to both,
so I've given up worrying about the fact that one is used with
-configure, and the other for the real server.
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Driver, version 0.5
(II) MGA(0): VESA VBE DDC supported
(II) MGA(0): VESA VBE DDC Level 2
(II) MGA(0): VESA VBE DDC transfer in appr. 1 sec.
(II) MGA(0): VESA VBE DDC read successfully
That is a success;
/root/XF86Config.new should have some info about the monitor.
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know the DDC1 code requires no specific operating system
support, but it doesn't support DDC2 only monitors, and may fail
if called after the DDC2 support (the monitor can get stuck in
DDC2 mode).
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to use the other mouse. Is there a
better way to do this?
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2001-April/007420.html
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it isn't worth trying to think of a way of doing it,
but there are already two solutions:
1 use a new color map - drawback color-map flashing
2 use a 15/16/24/... bit display
I'm not sure that dynamic config for 8bit displays is a good use of
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attach the XF86Config contents and the crash log.
When running under Windows-hosted vmware, use the vmware driver not the
radeon driver.
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reading xpert, and newbie stuff all moving to xpert :-).
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who has a job is adding features or supporting
hardware, or developing the server, ie *writing* code. Few of these
poeple seem to have the time to take on new areas of the code, and are
more interested in improving the bit they know well.
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Stephen Davies wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
Speaking as someone in the outer circle (I'm on the private lists, but
don't get to change the code) I think that the problem is that none one will
commit a patch that they don't understand
server completed with the wrong
return code, or DDC on DVI meant that the xdm gave up waiting for
the server to restart.
*tune with DisplayManager*startAttempts or
DisplayManager*openRepeat in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config
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, I'd use
Option NoDDC
Ideally this line should go in the Monitor section for each fixed sync
monitor (or any monitor without DDC support), but if that doesn't work,
try the corresponding Device section.
Sorry I didn't spot that earlier.
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Index: realglx.c
===
RCS file: /home/CVS/XFree86/xc/extras/Mesa/src/X/realglx.c,v
may do this with a radeon).
If so, could you send us the part of the logfile between
Monitor info and end of Monitor info (these are not the exact
strings; mine are I2C Monitor info and end of I2C Monitor info).
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support DirectColor visuals (most recent
and current hardware).
I've started looking at implementing this, but can;t promise when
it will be ready; I'm a volounteer, and work and life take priority.
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v_sync_end 1206
v_blanking: 1212 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(1): Monitor name: Apple Cinema
(II) RADEON(1): Monitor name: HD Display
(II) RADEON(1): End of DDC Monitor info
Does this work:
Modeline 1920x1200 155.0 1920 1984 2016 2144 1200 1203 1206 1212
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explaining all of this because it
seems that documentation about this is hard to find.
I'm sure I wont be the only one who finds it useful if you do.
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was the only one to support DDC).
Since both methods work for me on my original Millennium
I've not had any incentive to persue that matter.
Inertia seems to have left the current state for a couple of years.
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, chicken feet, bloodletting,
or other deep arcana? I'm thinking here of something akin to the GCc
build process that lets you unpack the sources in one directory,
say, $HOME/gcc-3.2, then configure and build in another directory,
say, $HOME/gcc-build.
xc/config/util/mkshadow/README
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. the DDC spec requires that graphics card supplies enough power
for the monitor to reply even when turned off, so you can't
even assume that the monitor is on if you get a reply.
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VendorName matrox
Driver mga
# update this with the PCI id of your card. Consult the output
# of the 'lspci' command.
BusID PCI:5:0:0
Optionhw cursor off
Screen 1
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new machines with r128 cards.
I have a Mach64 and an r128 driving displays on my desktop, so I'll to
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# [bool]
Identifier Card1
Driver ati
VendorName ATI
BoardName Radeon 7500 QW
BusID PCI:1:0:0
Screen 1
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180. ...
179. ...
178. Add an option to the r128 driver for enabling DMA for Xv image transfers
(#5195, Michel Dänzer).
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I'd like to do this.
I'd be interested in helping out.
I'll keep in touch with you.
Are we just going for 8bit pseudocolor on 24 bit directcolor,
or is it worth trying 5bit
support RENDER or ARGB cursors yet.
Is anything other than 8+24 overlay mode still using cfb ?
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Is anything other than 8+24 overlay mode still using cfb ?
No, and it shouldn't be a huge amount of work to fix this problem either.
Maybe that is what Luugi Marsan is looking
with planemasks and sometimes by
using a depth 8 pixmap with 32 bit pixels (xf86overlay:512
OverlayRefreshPixmap).
I'd be interested in anything you find out, since I expect I'll need to
duplicate much of it for PseudoColor on DirectColor.
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think that means
your application can give the server 16-bit data if it wants to.
Which application are you using to display your images ?
(Could your problem be your desktop setup ?).
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+ green 0x7e0 + blue 0x1f
I think you want:
((red 11) 0xf800) + ((green 5) 0x7e0) + (blue 0x1f)
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means that Richard couldn't use the feature;
maybe that is why I can't find it with the current version.
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It also says that it is using the DAC in 6bit mode, which would not help.
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Overlay
on my G550, as well as my Millennium I.
You aren't using -fbbpp 24 are you ?
I'll have a look at the full config and log file if you send them
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Load bitmap
Load speedo
Load type1
Are tt and freetype still incompatible ?
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at the same time may confuse the servers or the card.
Also, how is the modeline chosen for the vertual
terminal consoles (ie - VT1,VT2,VT3..) and how can I
force it to accept a set modeline? Thank you.
Not an X question - probably a linux (kernel) question.
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something especial?
Some people find they need the MATROX supplied mga_hal_drv.o
and the option HAL.
Some people can get there G550 to drive DVI flat panels without HAL.
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colour modes.
Could you send my your config file and /var/log/XFree86.0.log ?
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be involved.
Also, how can you output the current resolution and modeline the screen is
displaying at any given point?
Does
xdpyinfo -ext XFree86-VidModeExtension | tail -2
tell you what you want ?
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Ulrich Hobelmann wrote:
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Ulrich Hobelmann wrote:
I've used the option NoHal in my config file, so the error
message disappears, but now I only have 8bit colordepth!
There must be something wrong in your /etc/X11
= (temp 0x3ff) - 31;
} else {
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successfully ? I'm suggesting that
X -configure
startx
might remove at least one step from your sequence.
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try a very recent CVS build and see if that
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Why do you want a high refresh rate ?
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. The screen resolution is
1280x1024x16. My Monitor is not able to provide DDC information.
Why is the resolution set to '80x85 dots per inch' ?
Does your config file have a DisplaySize statement ?
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/ in
768 pixels @ 75dpi = 260.096 mm
Or if you have a more precise screen you man be using the 100dpi fonts:
1024x768 @ 100dpi = 260.604 x 195.072 mm
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. Default: off.
IIRC using the texture engine is slower than the video overlay, but
it would use 3D memory, so might help in your particular case.
Other than that you will have to modify the source of mga_storm32.c
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maps a lot, and if they do we probably have more
cpu than they were expecting anyway, so I wouldn't be worried about.
I don't appear to have a card which supports TrueColor but not
DirectColor; are they common enough to worry about ?
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These new cursors are a feature (but require the RENDER extension to
work). I guess removing the files would give you your old cursors back.
I think the matrox driver had the old cursors because it doesn't support
RENDER.
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the XF86Config file.
If you define several screens and layouts in your config file
you can choose which one to start with something like
startx -- -layout 1280x1024
or
startx -- -layout 1024x768
See ServerLayout in man XF86Config for more.
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to exclude spam, and the moderator has just submitted a bunch of accepts.
Perhaps he took the mail off on holiday on his laptop, and he has just
got back and hooked up to the net, so all posts got sent at once ?
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: Module magictouch does not have a magictouchModuleData data object.
(EE) Failed to load module magictouch (invalid module, 0)
(EE) No Input driver matching magictouch
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the whole Xfree86 source.
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the error
(EE) No drivers available.
Do you have a file
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o
The logfile suggests that this file may be missing.
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and blue ramps, measure what appears
on the screen, and use these measurements to calculate the data feed
into XF86VidModeSetGammaRamp, perhaps with different values for each
monitor, and re-measuring as the monitor ages.
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no_accel, your 2D may be slow too.
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get the source
through the cvsweb interface at:
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/xset/xset.c
The version which is at the head today is:
http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/xc/programs/xset/xset.c?rev=3.26content-type=text/plain
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without the screen blink of a DDC probe.
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remember correctly libutahglx was for XFree86 version 3.3.
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for an example objection, and some links to other messages in the thread.
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pointers to
get me started, and assistance when I get stuck, from someone like Keith
or Jim.
In practical terms, you are right, we should deploy the working
subset rather than wait.
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a particular head on a dual-head card.
Try just deleting these two lines.
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seems to crash X.
I take it that means that switching to the text console and back by typing
Ctl + Alt + F1 then Ctl + Alt + F7 crashes X :-(
Are you running gpm (mouse support for linux text console) ?
It *may* help if that is configured to use IMPS/2 as well.
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build.
I think this x86 stuff is for an x86 emulator to run video BIOS
code on non x86 machines.
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it would
be more sensible to define INT64 for your platform in xc/include/Xmd.h ?
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that flat panels may note need as long a horizontal blanking
time (fly-back) as CRTs. Does the DDC info in /vsr/log/XFree86.0.log
suggest any modelines that the monitor likes ?
Unfortunately XFree86 doesn't automatically use the modelines
provided by DDC.
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