Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Well, I didn't write the below statement but I know that the Clash worked with Lee Perry and if you listen to Stiff Little Fingers you'd have to say they were most certainly influenced by reggae. But then I'm talking about UK punk bands because US punk was a throw back to blues and rockabilly. Before the hardcore punk came along that is. MEK From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:52:05 -0400 Somebody wrote: ~~ Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full circle. ~~ Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd really like to know where you got this idea. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Paging Colin Chen or any Singapore resident.
Please email me privately. Peace, Patrick. -- +---+ | Southern Outpost | | Distributed worldwide via Twilight 76 | | http://www.southernoutpost.com| | p:+61 412 313 151 f:+612 8704 8481| +---+ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] My Japan report
I wrote a diary style narrative of my recent DJ trip to Japan: It's long, and does not concentrate on techno, but if you decide you want to read it the address is: http://www.arcrecords.freeserve.co.uk/japanreport.htm Max --- http://www.ARCart.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dub
i second that, king tubby is incredible. if you want to hear some wild dub-sounding electronics check raymond scotts ibm/bendix stuff > get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to check > out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck > _ > ?christian bl;och,>...fr%o3m tha/ d >-- > > - Original Message - > From: "Kao Jyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:42 AM > Subject: [313] dub > > > > i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain > > reaction. > > someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and > fire > > i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. > > there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to > give > > me some good recommendations. > > thanks > > kaojyan > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > NetZero Platinum > Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! > http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Dub
Regarding the dub request & Blood & Fire Blood & Fire's houses some great roots dub...I'd recommend the albums off B&F: -Yabby You's Tribute to King Tubby -X-Ray Music: A Dub Directory -Dubwise and Otherwise and then for a great mix of old and new check out: -Select Cuts from Blood & Fire - Actually put out by Echo Beach, it has a lot of contempories (Smith & Mighty, Alex Patterson, Stereo MC's, Groove Corporation...) remixing the rootsmen (King Tubby, Yabby You, Tappa Zukie, Horace Andy, I Roy...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
>the clash, specials, buzzcocks were influnced buy reggae and dub but thats london. The Buzzcocks are from Manchester, and while Britain is small it can and often does make a difference. Nick Hardie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] 2xaction
I dont know why my messages keep posting twice in a row, dont mean to be causing clutter. I think my server is tweeking out chana _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ectomorph, Fri.31st
correction on the region, I meant first time in the Northwest. Not the West Coast, er, duh!!! sorry chana *** * ELECTRO * *** !!! All the way from Detroit, Brendan M. Gillen AKA Ectomorph, is coming to Seattle for his first appearence on the west coast. Brendan's Seattle performance will mark the debut event for the new collective Edos Productions. Edos is the focused efforts of Jerry Abstract, Chana Goodman and Kuri Kondrak, to provide a North West conduit for Detroit music and dedicated techno variations. The event will be on Fri, Aug 31st, at The Aristocrats, located in Seattle's Pioneer Square on the corner of 4th and Main. Spinning with Ectomorph will be Detroit's Jerry Abstract, and Kuri Kondrak, music editor of Resonance magazine. Doors will open at 9:30 and the show will run till 4:00am. Some info about Brendan for those who may be unfamiliar: Gillen has engineered electro's second coming with a three-pronged attack of producing, distributing, and the creation of his own label. Brendan's productions under the guise of Ectomorph and Flexitone have enacted some of the most focused, compelling electro mandates to date. Gillen's Star67 distribution company has also quitely been helping to push the genre's anonymous labels from the deepest sound recesses into the light. Since 1995, his own record imprint,Interdimensional Transmissions, has actuated a strain of global neo-electro/tech-funk that has seen the earliest incarnations of Ectomorph (from the skeletal thump and fuzz of "Subsonic Vibrations" to the more recent dystopic take on dubby Arthur Russell disco on "Destroy Your Powercenters"), the seminal From Beyond compilation and subsequent releases from Holland's I-F (responsible for the dirty-Italo disco sleaze "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass") and Austrian-based GD Luxxe (his 20th Door EP revealed a hitherto unknown connecton from electro to post-punk/new wave with strains of Joy Division). Whatever Gillen's actions, the purpose has been to link the past with the future, the finished with the unfinished, the ass with the mind. Expect to be inspired. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ur manchester - again
if anyone gets individual mails and has seen anything about whether UR play in manchester or not tonite (24th), can they forward on the info to me directly as i only get the digest...(if we go we need to leave soon) many many thanks robin... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
buzzcocks were from manchester. punk trainspotting on the 313 list, I own you all. :) mt From: "Scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:48:58 -0400 the clash, specials, buzzcocks were influnced buy reggae and dub but thats london. not sure about detroit. guns of brixton is a jam! scotto ps Can was one of the buzzcocks biggest influences. - Original Message - From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > Somebody wrote: > ~~ > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > circle. > ~~ > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Directions to Amsterdam Lounge
directions from ambassador bridge: take a hard right turn after getting strip searched at customs ;) and you will head north on huron church (towards the river beside the bridge), turn right on university, turn left on pelissier and you'll be right in front of amsterdam (on the left hand side) - i do suggest taking the bridge as the tunnel can get fairly congested on the weekends. ...or go to mapblast.com and fill in the appropriate digits. From: T.J.Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Directions to Amsterdam Lounge Date: 24 Aug 2001 06:35:06 -0700 Need directions or a good resource to get directions in Windsor on the web. Thanks... "Don't expect anything and you'll never be disappointed" TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Life Fest Pre-Party Aug 24 - more djs!!!
Ok, we just keep adding DJs. Logic 7 is spinning tonight too. Come on out and introduce yourself!! CONNECT *** A night of electronic exploration and community. Hit the main room for pumpin' techno and house and lose yourself in the front lounge with downtempo, ambient and experimental frequencies. Friday, August 24, 2001 Amsterdam Lounge Windsor, Canada 261 Pelissier St 519-977-7232 *Neksis/313/mp313 Room - Main Room* PSilopoliSP (aka Keith Kemp, gammaplayers.com) DJ Ben WU (GreyTech, Neksis) Steven Roy (Thinkbox.ca, Neksis) Tristan Watkins (aka Phonopsia, MetroTechno, mp313.com) Mercenary (aimindz.com, mp313.com) *Thinkbox Room - Front Lounge* Bill Van Loo (chromedecay.org) Rob Theakston (planet e, ear3) Logic 7 (Labwerx Music) Christopher Bissonnette (Thinkbox.ca) Chris McNamara (Thinkbox.ca) ***part of the lifefest party weekend*** _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] tonite --transmission101-- oakland cable
:::FLASH!::: > Transmission 101 is a vj/dj project featuring > creative video editing/mixing by chris chynoweth/CLC101. > the first show features a seamless > techno mix by john williams/dj bileebob. > It will air in the following cities > every friday @ 12 midnite for the next month: > Ferndale, Pleasant Ridge, Huntington Woods, > Berkley, Royal Oak, Clawson, Troy, > Rochester, Rochester Hills, > Auburn Hills and Oakland Township. > Americast channel 18 > Comcast Channel 52 > Show #2 will broadcast in September > contact info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ::: - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
I've always gotten a punk/funk vibe from bad brains. there tune on the let them eat jelly beans lp is killer. they are also post clash explosion band whether they were influnced by them??? they have that definate D.C. punk sound. I have to list to fugazi now! sit'in the waiting room! scotto - Original Message - From: "Brian Dillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: FW: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > um, no. i have no idea what sort of punk scene existed in detroit and > whether it was american or british punk music being played, but lots of late > '70s and early '80s punk and post-punk was influenced by dub - everything > from bad brains in the states to the slits (whose cover of john holt's "man > next door," produced by adrian sherwood, came out in '80). > > brian dillard > > -Original Message- > From: M. Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:52 AM > To: 313 List > Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > > Somebody wrote: > ~~ > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > circle. > ~~ > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. > > Cheers > todd > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] diego 2x12
I highly recommend the new album by diego entitled "The Persuation Channel" (Kanzleramt, 2x12"). I feel it is the best relase of the year and will probably not be topped. It is a wonderfully intense, eclectic and variegated album, integrating Detroit fundamentals with gorgeous melodic chords and fast, brilliant percussion which Diego hammers out like no other. There is simply nothing like it. Diego's releases have all been incredible. This new album, for me, is a quintessential offering of a future direction in electronic music innovation...a real inspirational piece. Check it out. And make sure you preview it with good headphones or over creditable speakers for full effect. If anyone finds this album inspirational, also check out these other offerings of his on kanzleramt: diego:mouth full of fresh cut flowers (2x12) diego + voco derman:roster diego:the persuation channel (single 12" version) = zachary lubin zacharylubin.homestead.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Technotourists representin' in Windsor
The West Coast division of the Technotourists is headed to Detroit/Windsor
tonight. (I get in tomorrow morning at 9:23, sorry I'll miss the Amsterdam
Lounge get-together. Going West -> East is a b*tch.)
I'll be in Windsor from (roughly) 10:30 AM tomorrow until about 9 PM Sunday
night. Hope to see my homies at Lifefest (and praying it doesn't rain/hail
all day). To the usual suspects: e-mail me privately for my cell #.
*w00t* It's good to be coming back to Detroit.
Speaking of which ... the Kit Clayton/Jasper show last night was a lot of
fun. Lots of DEMF reminiscing with listmember viagratek and his brother,
and their friend Kathy who's an ex-Detroiter and friend of BMG's. (She's
trying to convince Adult. to come out to play in LA in November, which will
bestow instant God-like status upon her.) Jasper played a total Detroit
set, running the gamut from Dan Bell to Derrick May to 69 to one of Kit's
own tracks to Maurizio to a New Order Flashback Weekend ("Blue Monday",
"Perfect Kiss" and "Confusion"). Perfect warm-up for Lifefest :-)
- Greg
P.S. I am the root of all Techno.
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Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
the clash, specials, buzzcocks were influnced buy reggae and dub but thats london. not sure about detroit. guns of brixton is a jam! scotto ps Can was one of the buzzcocks biggest influences. - Original Message - From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > Somebody wrote: > ~~ > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > circle. > ~~ > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Pullen, Heard interviews
Is the problem with 'lack of support' actually a "lack" of support, or just less enthusiastic support than artists receive in other countries? I don't think Americans take music as seriously as Europeans... Particularly techno and other forms of electronic music.s -Original Message- From: Wes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:32 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Pullen, Heard interviews Latest issue of XLR8R has Stacey on the cover, and a hard-hitting interview wherein he bemoans the lack of support artists of his calibre/ilk generally receive in the US domestic music market. Home truths or sour grapes? You be the judge. There's also a gently-outspoken Larry Heard interview that's just been published, either in this issue or the new URB one--can't quite recall. Talks about dropping Jeff Lorber's "Rain Dance" as the opening/backing track to some of the weekend tv news broadcasts he supplies the music for at his daytime job. Always was a subliminal kind of guy... Best, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
um, no. i have no idea what sort of punk scene existed in detroit and whether it was american or british punk music being played, but lots of late '70s and early '80s punk and post-punk was influenced by dub - everything from bad brains in the states to the slits (whose cover of john holt's "man next door," produced by adrian sherwood, came out in '80). brian dillard -Original Message- From: M. Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 7:52 AM To: 313 List Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Somebody wrote: ~~ Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full circle. ~~ Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd really like to know where you got this idea. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ectomorph, Fri.31st
*** * ELECTRO * *** !!! Detroit's Brendan M. Gillen AKA Ectomorph, is coming to Seattle for his first appearence on the west coast. Brendan's Seattle performance will mark the debut event for the new collective Edos Productions. Edos is the focused efforts of Jerry Abstract, Chana Goodman and Kuri Kondrak, to provide a North West conduit for Detroit music and dedicated techno variations. The event will be on Fri, Aug 31st, at The Aristocrats, located in Seattle's Pioneer Square on the corner of 4th and Main. Spinning with Ectomorph will be Detroit's Jerry Abstract, and Kuri Kondrak, music editor of Resonance magazine. Doors will open at 9:30 and the show will run till 4:00am. Some info about Brendan for those who may be unfamiliar: Gillen has engineered electro's second coming with a three-pronged attack of producing, distributing, and the creation of his own label. Brendan's productions under the guise of Ectomorph and Flexitone have enacted some of the most focused, compelling electro mandates to date. Gillen's Star67 distribution company has also quitely been helping to push the genre's anonymous labels from the deepest sound recesses into the light. Since 1995, his own record imprint,Interdimensional Transmissions, has actuated a strain of global neo-electro/tech-funk that has seen the earliest incarnations of Ectomorph (from the skeletal thump and fuzz of "Subsonic Vibrations" to the more recent dystopic take on dubby Arthur Russell disco on "Destroy Your Powercenters"), the seminal From Beyond compilation and subsequent releases from Holland's I-F (responsible for the dirty-Italo disco sleaze "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass") and Austrian-based GD Luxxe (his 20th Door EP revealed a hitherto unknown connecton from electro to post-punk/new wave with strains of Joy Division). Whatever Gillen's actions, the purpose has been to link the past with the future, the finished with the unfinished, the ass with the mind. Expect to be inspired. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ectomorph, Fri.31st
*** * ELECTRO * *** !!! Detroit's Brendan M. Gillen AKA Ectomorph, is coming to Seattle for his first appearence on the west coast. Brendan's Seattle performance will mark the debut event for the new collective Edos Productions. Edos is the focused efforts of Jerry Abstract, Chana Goodman and Kuri Kondrak, to provide a North West conduit for Detroit music and dedicated techno variations. The event will be on Fri, Aug 31st, at The Aristocrats, located in Seattle's Pioneer Square on the corner of 4th and Main. Spinning with Ectomorph will be Detroit's Jerry Abstract, and Kuri Kondrak, music editor of Resonance magazine. Doors will open at 9:30 and the show will run till 4:00am. Some info about Brendan for those who may be unfamiliar: Gillen has engineered electro's second coming with a three-pronged attack of producing, distributing, and the creation of his own label. Brendan's productions under the guise of Ectomorph and Flexitone have enacted some of the most focused, compelling electro mandates to date. Gillen's Star67 distribution company has also quitely been helping to push the genre's anonymous labels from the deepest sound recesses into the light. Since 1995, his own record imprint,Interdimensional Transmissions, has actuated a strain of global neo-electro/tech-funk that has seen the earliest incarnations of Ectomorph (from the skeletal thump and fuzz of "Subsonic Vibrations" to the more recent dystopic take on dubby Arthur Russell disco on "Destroy Your Powercenters"), the seminal From Beyond compilation and subsequent releases from Holland's I-F (responsible for the dirty-Italo disco sleaze "Space Invaders Are Smoking Grass") and Austrian-based GD Luxxe (his 20th Door EP revealed a hitherto unknown connecton from electro to post-punk/new wave with strains of Joy Division). Whatever Gillen's actions, the purpose has been to link the past with the future, the finished with the unfinished, the ass with the mind. Expect to be inspired. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] dub
get your hands on as much king tubby as possible. you may also want to check out his apprentice prince jammy's recordings... good luck _ ?christian bl;och,>...fr%o3m tha/ d -- - Original Message - From: "Kao Jyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 8:42 AM Subject: [313] dub > i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain > reaction. > someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire > i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. > there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give > me some good recommendations. > thanks > kaojyan > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ebay spam
more ebay spam, funny and pointles: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1458443752 --- Scott Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FS on ebay right now: GU, FK, Theo, Trent, Boo, > Moodymann, K. Alexi, Common > Factor > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=sswiger&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 > > Peace, > Scott > > :http://www.skwiggly.com > :mother Earth sound system > :keep techno sexy! > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] ebay spam
FS on ebay right now: GU, FK, Theo, Trent, Boo, Moodymann, K. Alexi, Common Factor http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=sswiger&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25 Peace, Scott :http://www.skwiggly.com :mother Earth sound system :keep techno sexy! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] test
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Re: [313] Pullen, Heard interviews
>Latest issue of XLR8R has Stacey on the cover, and a hard-hitting interview >wherein he bemoans the lack of support artists of his calibre/ilk generally >receive in the US domestic music market. Home truths or sour grapes? You be >the judge. Nah, I spoke to him about that at length the other day. I've probably spent more time talking to Stacey than any other Detroit artist over the years (he got his first press here, plus he's a fave of mine, so I will happily do 6 am interviews with the time difference) and he isn't ever bitter. It's not in his character, he is a very positive kinda guy. He was really disappointed that his album wasn't released in the US. It's a symbolic thing, to be accepted by your own. 'Home' means a lot to Stacey too, he always talks of it. I think it is 'home truths'. It's a shame that with the attention the DEMF attracted the album wasn't released Stateside. Funnily enough here in Australia his album got more of a push than Photek - both Science/Virgin releases. I will look forward to the XLR8R, it's nice that he made the cover. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] dub
There's a great article in last months SOMA ( san fran mag ) about dub and it's influences on electronic music with a recommended discography. All good selections. For newer stuff you should check out Guidance "Hi-Fidelity Dub Sessions" and Burnt Friedman and the new Dub Players "Just Landed". The latter is an amazing take at using older dub production styles (lots of echo , reverb ) but with new sounds. Also, if your in nyc, check out SattaSundays @ Swin every other sunday for DJ Kush and his live soundsystem dub. It's not often you get to see a dj spinning without headphones ;) He also owns a record shop on east 3rd called Jammyland that has anything and everything dub. -Pete -Original Message- From: Kao Jyan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 11:43 AM To: 313 Subject: [313] dub i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain reaction. someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give me some good recommendations. thanks kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Pullen, Heard interviews
Latest issue of XLR8R has Stacey on the cover, and a hard-hitting interview wherein he bemoans the lack of support artists of his calibre/ilk generally receive in the US domestic music market. Home truths or sour grapes? You be the judge. There's also a gently-outspoken Larry Heard interview that's just been published, either in this issue or the new URB one--can't quite recall. Talks about dropping Jeff Lorber's "Rain Dance" as the opening/backing track to some of the weekend tv news broadcasts he supplies the music for at his daytime job. Always was a subliminal kind of guy... Best, Wes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Off topic unless you're from perth,australia
Hi folks, I'll be spending some time in Perth soon. If anyone can hit me back offlist with info on good record shops, clubs, websites It'd be appreciated. Thanks Aly - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
I got the ''magnificent dance from the Clash here on Chicago Warehouse classics vol 1 and it doesn't sound like punk at all ... just weird disco beats with a dubbish sound And also sergio mendez - i'll tell you ??? thought he did South American Sound (great track by the way) and gino soccio - dancer of course :-) I think disco influenced a lot !!! Mad'R - Original Message - From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > Thanks, that was somewhat informative, but saying punk was heavily > influenced by Dub and Reggae because The Clash wrote some jams and they were > influenced by it, does not mean the entire genre was. Unless of course you > are saying The Clash were the progenitors of punk, but that's a whole other > ball of wax. > > Cheers > todd > - Original Message - > From: "miss lauryn g" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > > > > > > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you > Iggy > > > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the > message > > > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms > and > > > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk > cross > > > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit > the > > > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > > > really like to know where you got this idea. > > > > > > > http://www.appleonline.net/fantompowa/baines_reggae.htm > > > > that pretty much will sum it up for you right there. :) > > > > he is correct. punk was heavily influenced by reggae and dub. > > > > -l > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Actually, it really depends on what particular era and region of punk music you are talking about. Punk(60's garage rock) does not have a reggae or ska influence at all. You look at anything on Nuggets, or the Stooges, Rationals and MC5 records, and blues and 50's rock in stamped all over those records. The Ramones, and New York Dolls, annd Velvet Underground dont skank. Most of the New York records do not reference reggae. Nothing that came out of Ohio(Pere Ubu, Rocket From Tombs, Electric Eels, early Devo) has that stamp on it. The West Coast does not have it either(Germs, Black Flag, early X, Fear) Real American punk in the 70's does not have a strong reggae influence. Of course nobody gives a shit about American punk because Epic Records couldnt sell it with the mug of a turncoat pub rocker like Joe "101'ers" Strummer. Of course English Punk has a Reggae influence(particularly in London.) It is just a result of having such a large West Indian population. I mean working class affection for Blue Beat/Ska goes back to the Hard Mod/Skinhead days of the mid to late 1960. I am not going to go into a rant about the old Blue Beat tours, but I will tell you that Don Letts did not introduce reggae to the UK(despite what PBS might tell you.) Ska in the late 60's was about as common in the UK in the 60's as Master P was in Detroit in the late 90's. Not everybody was tuned into peace and love, if you were a docker's son you listened to Tamala and Ska. mt From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:07:39 -0400 Thanks, that was somewhat informative, but saying punk was heavily influenced by Dub and Reggae because The Clash wrote some jams and they were influenced by it, does not mean the entire genre was. Unless of course you are saying The Clash were the progenitors of punk, but that's a whole other ball of wax. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: "miss lauryn g" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > > really like to know where you got this idea. > > > > http://www.appleonline.net/fantompowa/baines_reggae.htm > > that pretty much will sum it up for you right there. :) > > he is correct. punk was heavily influenced by reggae and dub. > > -l > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] dub
i'm looking for some of the direct influences on basic channel/chain reaction. someone posted a good few months ago about a compilation cd (blood and fire i think??) that you could totally hear the influence. there is a lot of mediocre dub out there and i'm counting on you lot to give me some good recommendations. thanks kaojyan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] DEMF and K Hand in Urb
Just to let you all know, URB has a nice large Article on the demf (read: its entirely on the drama that ensued, and carol doesn't look very good in the article), and they quote this wonderful beast of a list as well in the article. The K hand article is quite good as well. Figured i'd let all you boyscouts know. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] MANCHESTER UR GIG CANCELLED
Hi y'all First up, sorry for hogging the bandwidth. I wanted to be able to reach as many concerned parties as possible. I wanted to let you know that the proposed UR gig at the Music Box in Manchester will not be going ahead. I know some of you were planning on attending, and I wouldn't want you making the trip in vain. I work at ePM, the company who acted as booking agents for this proposed event, and as such, I'd just like to clear up a few details. Basically, the promoter of the event has not been forthcoming with necessary payments, and until the beginning of this week, the agent had not received a signed contract for the booking. The cut-off date for payment of the deposit was the 13th of this month - money needed to be wired to relevant parties for payment of travel expenses. This date came and went, and the promoter became extremely difficult to contact. On Monday of this week, the promoter was reminded that until the deposit was paid and the contracts were signed, this booking was not confirmed. The booking agency then had to wire money from it's own account to cover expenses - there is more than one UR gig this weekend and it's unreasonable to go back to confirmed bookings and ask for more money. After a further unproductive conversation with the promoter, it was decided to cancel the gig. The agent had lost complete confidence in the promoter, and considering the profile of the act(s) in question, trust is a very important thing. Today, the promoter made a last ditch attempt to strike a deal with the booking agent, but still, no money has changed hands. It is my conclusion at this point, that the promoter is going to advertise the gig right up until the doors open, despite the fact that this booking has not been made official. It would more likely than not be explained by either an unreliable act, or an unreasonable booking agent, in the hope that punters will still pay the cash to enter the club. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE NO U.R. PRESENCE AT TONIGHT'S EVENT AT THE MUSIC BOX IN MANCHESTER. HOWEVER, THE APPEARANCE AT 'FLUX' IN LONDON TOMORROW NIGHT IS 100% CONFIRMED. Apologies for the disappointment I would like to emphasize that this cancellation does not reflect on Underground Resistance in any way. I hope that has been made clear in this statement. -- Nick Craddock respond to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ePM http://www.electronicpm.co.uk _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Wow! I've seen this post up for 3 or 4 days now and just decided to open one of them. Too funny! Y'all went from Prince and Electronic to Reggae a Punk. Keep it going! ;) "Don't expect anything and you'll never be disappointed" TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
and yet another one for the doubting thomas's of the influence of reggae upon punk... http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/reggae.htm :) l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
There was also the famed Rock Against Racism gig in London in 1979 when The Clash and X-Ray Spex played with Steel Pulse. miss lauryn g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/24/2001 11:07:07 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org cc: (bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm) Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? this has a nice history of punk music and there is mention of the influence of reggae and dub music on it. i'm too lazy to pick the good parts of it out and post it up here, so do it yourself. :P http://www.fastnbulbous.com/punk.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
I'm the somebody:
hopefully the encoding for this doesn't get messed up. If it does, i'll
re-edit it.
and not really feeling argumentative, if you don't agree that's fine with
me:
http://www.bobmarley.com/life/musicalinfluences/punkyreggae/
Well, Bob was influenced by punk at least.
and the show the brought the connection to light for me on pbs:
"The Ramones, Patti Smith, Talking Heads and Blondie light a fuse in America
that explodes in London with the cynical inner-city punk spirit of the Sex
Pistols and The Clash. Sharing a sense of alienation and rebellion, they
champion the Bob Marley-led reggae movement. " -
http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/whatson/template.cgir?s=WVIZ&t=2&p=1490&c=d&;
d=2001-08-13
"Punk explores two late `70s musical innovations that shaped rock and roll
through the next decade: punk and reggae. In New York, members of Blondie,
Talking Heads, Television, and the Ramones tell how they inadvertently
created the cynical, urban, stripped-down sound that became punk rock. In
London, punk takes off with the Sex Pistols, and members of the Wailers and
the Clash recall how Jamaican reggae, another musical form of rebellion,
crossed international boundaries, deeply influencing punk and pop rock. "
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrtv.html
"By combining a punk attitude with the rhythms of reggae - a musical import
from Jamaica popularized by Bob Marley - bands like the Police, the
Pretenders and Elvis Costello and the Attractions created a hybrid that
proved both infectious and commercially acceptable in a way that hardcore
punk was not."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrpunk.html
"The Sex Pistols had broken up the previous year and the Clash were
considered the standard bearers of Punk. The concerts were the scathing
attacks of fury that had earned the group its reputation as a high energy
concert draw. The band returned to the UK after the tour to begin writing
for their new album to be produced by Guy Stevens who had produced the
Clash's demos for Polygram in 1977. So much material had been recorded that
the album was set to be a double. ("Time is Tight" a Booker T cover the band
had been playing since 1977 was recorded for the LP but was not included).
The title song was released in advance of the album (the album's working
title was the New Testament) with the flip side "Armagideon Time". That song
hadbeen a reggae hit for Jamaican singer Wille Williams in 1978, but the
Clash's version was so far superior to the original it has since become to
be associated with the band as their song. "
http://members.aol.com/secretsun3/history.html
Roxane by the police came out in 1978, well before the 1988 date you cite.
Then there's always "regatta de blanc" in 1979, "walking on the moon."
I guess it really does all come down to one's definition of punk after
allbut I think there is enough evidence of cross-polination.
and no, I am not iggy pop.
jim
http://www.assasins.ner
> Somebody wrote:
> ~~
> Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks
primary
> influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full
> circle.
> ~~
>
> Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you
Iggy
> Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the
message
> they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and
> sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk
cross
> pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit
the
> scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd
> really like to know where you got this idea.
>
> Cheers
> todd
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this has a nice history of punk music and there is mention of the influence of reggae and dub music on it. i'm too lazy to pick the good parts of it out and post it up here, so do it yourself. :P http://www.fastnbulbous.com/punk.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks, that was somewhat informative, but saying punk was heavily influenced by Dub and Reggae because The Clash wrote some jams and they were influenced by it, does not mean the entire genre was. Unless of course you are saying The Clash were the progenitors of punk, but that's a whole other ball of wax. Cheers todd - Original Message - From: "miss lauryn g" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > > really like to know where you got this idea. > > > > http://www.appleonline.net/fantompowa/baines_reggae.htm > > that pretty much will sum it up for you right there. :) > > he is correct. punk was heavily influenced by reggae and dub. > > -l > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Bad Brains and The Clash were both heavily influenced, as were The Police (if new wave counts) "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/24/2001 10:52:05 AM To: "313 List" <313@Hyperreal.Org> cc: (bcc: Paul Matheson/US/BBHComm) Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? Somebody wrote: ~~ Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full circle. ~~ Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd really like to know where you got this idea. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ _ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
errr...didnt reggae and its dub 'versions' come after the whole rock steady/ska thing? > From: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:52:05 -0400 > To: "313 List" <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > Somebody wrote: > ~~ > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > circle. > ~~ > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. > > Cheers > todd > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. > http://www.appleonline.net/fantompowa/baines_reggae.htm that pretty much will sum it up for you right there. :) he is correct. punk was heavily influenced by reggae and dub. -l - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
Somebody wrote: ~~ Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full circle. ~~ Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd really like to know where you got this idea. Cheers todd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
> > > Well, > > > > Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > > circle. > > well, before Jamaicans started making their own music (before there was "reggae" and "dub" as genres) they used to just cover R&B from the states, meaning they played covers of tracks on labels like Stax, King, Chess, Atlantic, and especially Motownjust had to bring it all back again full circle, haha - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Directions to Amsterdam Lounge
http://canada411.sympatico.ca/eng/business.html (Name=Amsterdam, City=Windsor, Province=Ontario) You'll end up with info below: AMSTERDAM LOUNGE 261 PELISSIER WINDSOR, ON N9A 4K3 (519)977-7232 This link will provide you with a map link as well. Peace, Alex T.J.Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org plepc.com>cc: Subject: [313] Directions to Amsterdam Lounge 08/24/01 09:35 AM Need directions or a good resource to get directions in Windsor on the web. Thanks... "Don't expect anything and you'll never be disappointed" TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ == The information in this Internet e-mail is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the addressee. If the reader of this communication is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any use, review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete this e-mail and any copy thereof. == - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Directions to Amsterdam Lounge
Need directions or a good resource to get directions in Windsor on the web. Thanks... "Don't expect anything and you'll never be disappointed" TJ www.wireframerecords.com www.outrecords.com PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] O/T old skool electro
just found thisplaying oldskool electro 24/7 http://www.radioelectro.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Cutting Pleasure
Info about Cutting Pleasure up at http://www.techstylism.com Direct link: http://www.techstylism.com/cp.box janos - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] paging Otto Kopius
Hi Otto Got your email, cheers, but my reply is being returned unsent. Is there a problem with your Email address? Cheers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freeserve - get your free ISP service including web-mail at: www.freeserve.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] techno magazines
Hi Can somebody mail me with a list, or any that they know, of good dance music magazines and contact details (address , Email ot phone)in countries other than the UK that devote review space to techno? Much appreciated Stewart Freeserve - get your free ISP service including web-mail at: www.freeserve.co.uk - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
"Toasters" I remember seeing the mighty Jah Shaka play singing "I am a toaster" for about 60 minutesand then collapse. - Original Message - From: Mann, Ravinder [CCS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'seth redmond' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > ahhh 'toasters'. i havnt heard that word for yonks!! > > > -Original Message- > > From: seth redmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:59 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > > > I think what a lot of Europeans don't realise is how little Reggae and Dub > > permeated America at all. Apart from a little Wailers, Jimmy Cliff and > > latterly Yellowman and Beenieman there wasn't the same invasion as happened > > over here. > > > > That said, if you want to you can trace the whole lineage of rapping to > > Jamaican DJ's and toasters, Especially U-Roy... > > > > -s > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] UR - Manchester - Event on?
Mornin I have just phoned the Music Box in Manchester and they have confirmed UR will be playing there tonight. This is all a bit strange. Mark Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
ahhh 'toasters'. i havnt heard that word for yonks!! > -Original Message- > From: seth redmond [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno? > > I think what a lot of Europeans don't realise is how little Reggae and Dub > permeated America at all. Apart from a little Wailers, Jimmy Cliff and > latterly Yellowman and Beenieman there wasn't the same invasion as happened > over here. > > That said, if you want to you can trace the whole lineage of rapping to > Jamaican DJ's and toasters, Especially U-Roy... > > -s > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Is Prince the root of all Techno?
I think what a lot of Europeans don't realise is how little Reggae and Dub permeated America at all. Apart from a little Wailers, Jimmy Cliff and latterly Yellowman and Beenieman there wasn't the same invasion as happened over here. That said, if you want to you can trace the whole lineage of rapping to Jamaican DJ's and toasters, Especially U-Roy... -s - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Techno in Hamburg
What's on in Hamburg in regards to clubs, etc? And where to buy records, etc? Melody Ng Project Officer Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) http://www.austlii.edu.au/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] forwardMusic Event002 this Friday August 24th and Todd Sines and Archetype Live Setp. 21st
Hey all, great new announcement... Sept. 21st. in Hamilont Todd Sines and Archetype Live moew details to come. Also check out tomorrow... forwardMusic night in Hamilton, loud and dark and crazy Friday August 24th forwardMusic presents: event002 featuring: live set by: Christian Bloch (denmark) vs. Ryan Brogan (detroit) djs ollie - forwardMusic, steel city records blahblahblah... trevor wilkes - in yer ear ej - in yer ear Location: The Parlour 1 Hughson Ave N. Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Cost: $5.00 (always the right price...) Time: 10:00pm info/reservations - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or http://www.forwardmusic.com A little word about our guests Christian Bloch is part of the very elite in Denmark when it comes to hard, minimal but very soulfull techno. He comes from the northern part of Denmark, and his DJ-sets are legendary in the history of techno in the city of Aalborg. Bloch has also made a major impact in the legendary Tresor in Berlin, and is playing this years Roskilde Festival alongside the likes of Super Collider, Plaid and Slam. Bloch has released on the newly started Deep Night Essentials, a sub label of the acclaimed Background records, Pacou's LL Records, as well as releases on his own label Funque Droppings and has been remixed by the like's of Pacou, Damon Wild and Sean Deason. Ryan Brogan has been shrouded in anonymity in live performance and dj sets under aliases like Agora One, Dropcode, Chosen, and Shadowpusher. His music has a futuristic vision and a philosophy deeper than the dance. A sense of culture and forward-thinking ideas about the potential of communication through art and information are what define techno for Ryan. Here a couple links if you wanna know what forwardMusic and the parties are like... http://www.groove.ca has a great review of the last party in their event reviews page. http://reviews.exclaim.ca/show-review.php3?albumid=3877: a great review of ollie - seedForTomorrow Thanks for the bandwidth, ollie -- forwardMusic [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forwardmusic.com 88 St. Joseph's Drive Hamilton, Ontario L8N-2E7 905-523-8909 fon 905-523-0840 fax - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: Simon Conway
Apologies list.. Simon, please email me - I've lost your address. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] G-Force on Equinox archive...
The show is now up and running, Stanny Franssen's (G-Force) 1 hr set starts around 1:27:00 in. Here's a link to the page: http://www.1groove.com/show.php?s=equinox Cheers! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
