Re: [313] Stacey Pullen
From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone recall what Ubiquity compilation features new music from Stacey Pullen? No Categories 5 CD had an exclusive track by Stacey Pullen Liquid Letter, and the compilation also featured a Stacey Pullen remix of As One's Another Revolution which was also released as a 12. Check out this link for more info No Categories 5 :: Eclectic Music For Electronic Minds (Ubiquity) http://www.ubiquityrecords.com/asp/xq/asp/album.244/label.2/qx/album_template.htm PS - I believe Zero DB (Fluid Ounce/Ubiquity) will be spinning on Bossa Super Nova this Wednesday 8-10pm (PST) on KUCI.org I'll post more on it as soon as I find out more _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch' (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11, which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV event'. Oh, and check the video... TOM Well, the United States is now an official police state, in my opinion. I think it has had a negative impact, but indirectly. As far as specific artistic responses I haven't come across much--too some extent as an artist I'd rather avoid an issue that is so overhyped in the media, in retrospect it almost seems like a planned Made For TV event, which certainly was extremely helpful to our current political leaders. I would expect in the current climate to see some artists become more politicized out of necessity almost, although I'm not aware whether this is actually happening. /dave_ [cyborg K] Odeluga, Ken wrote: Just canvassing for some thoughts a year after that cataclysmic event ... Was there a change in the soul of America? Did it find voice in music, including music out of Detroit? k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] one year later
h, Chris Korda, I caught his live set @ Sonar 2001. Now there is a guy who really needs the shock tactic visual element...to distract people from the fact that his music is so lame. Irritating is about as accurate as I can get. -- Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:13:03 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org 313@hyperreal.org From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [313] one year later Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sam Eilola: Subject: Twin tower porn music: I Like to Watch on 9-11 The music from Chris Korda's infamous I Like to Watch video will ... Hmmm. *Not* quite what I had in mind. But it's a point of view ... any others? k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
Although it's not techno per se, what about Theo Parrish's Instant Insanity. Not only was it a response to the events, it was released not too long after. I think it was pretty limited in numbers though, and never made it as a proper Sound Signature release. I still think that his usage of the passing fire truck horn as an element of the track made it all the more haunting. ID From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:18:49 +0100 To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch' (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11, which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV event'. Oh, and check the video... TOM Well, the United States is now an official police state, in my opinion. I think it has had a negative impact, but indirectly. As far as specific artistic responses I haven't come across much--too some extent as an artist I'd rather avoid an issue that is so overhyped in the media, in retrospect it almost seems like a planned Made For TV event, which certainly was extremely helpful to our current political leaders. I would expect in the current climate to see some artists become more politicized out of necessity almost, although I'm not aware whether this is actually happening. /dave_ [cyborg K] Odeluga, Ken wrote: Just canvassing for some thoughts a year after that cataclysmic event ... Was there a change in the soul of America? Did it find voice in music, including music out of Detroit? k - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
New Yorker Steve Stoll's album on Fine Audio, 'Windows on the World' (named after the ill-fated tower-top restaurant) comes to mind. Stoll's machine rhythms have never sounded angrier or more eloquent, especially on tracks like Jumping Off or I Erupt. Gaiden's 'Walking on Wires' (Music Man) was dedicated to the 9/11 victims as well, if memory serves. Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch' (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11, which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV event'. Oh, and check the video... TOM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
from Forcefield, december 2001 · The terrorist actions of 9-11 also find their way out into the land of music. Theo Parrish just put out a one-sided single with lots of going TV- radio samples, and of which he will denote all earnings to rescue funds. A lot less peaceful goes a release by Sonic Groove, called United Effort: Techno against Terrorism, with titles as Feeling Militant, etc. H · At 3-9-2002 +0100 00:18, you wrote: Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch' (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11, which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV event'. Oh, and check the video... TOM .. . :: http://nomorewords.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] bored
Trying to recall.. but does this release have Project 625, Octave One (or is it RNG), Wink, 3rd From The Sun. If this is the correct record, then yes it's available on vinyl. You might want to check what tracks are on vinyl as opposed to the CD. Can't remember of the top of my head. r1./ On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:45:47 +0200, Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Van: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] never on sunday - journey (retroactice/buzz) Is the deepest shade of techno (ssr/crammed) 2xCD also released on vinyl? Because getting the above mentioned tune on retroactive would be hard... and foremost expensive! Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net -- http://fastmail.fm - Taking the ail out of email! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] bored
these are from deepest shade of techno 1 vinyl versions were released on reflective, kind of techno offshoot of reinforced records martin -Original Message- From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:07 AM To: Maarten Baute Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] bored Trying to recall.. but does this release have Project 625, Octave One (or is it RNG), Wink, 3rd From The Sun. If this is the correct record, then yes it's available on vinyl. You might want to check what tracks are on vinyl as opposed to the CD. Can't remember of the top of my head. r1./ On Mon, 2 Sep 2002 20:45:47 +0200, Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Van: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] never on sunday - journey (retroactice/buzz) Is the deepest shade of techno (ssr/crammed) 2xCD also released on vinyl? Because getting the above mentioned tune on retroactive would be hard... and foremost expensive! Thanks, Maarten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Benn Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.royaltech.net -- http://fastmail.fm - Taking the ail out of email! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] one year later
Max Duley / ARCart wrote on Tue, 3 Sep 2002 about following: h, Chris Korda, I caught his live set @ Sonar 2001. Now there is a guy who really needs the shock tactic visual element...to distract people from the fact that his music is so lame. Irritating is about as accurate as I can get. there's plenty of tracks for download on his site - 'i like to watch' is ok compared to the rest which is total garbage. sakke -- random rants and links at: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
no offense meant, but the US is the richest nation in the world - why should there be any need to donate money for rescue funds? - Original Message - From: marsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER from Forcefield, december 2001 · The terrorist actions of 9-11 also find their way out into the land of music. Theo Parrish just put out a one-sided single with lots of going TV- radio samples, and of which he will denote all earnings to rescue funds. A lot less peaceful goes a release by Sonic Groove, called United Effort: Techno against Terrorism, with titles as Feeling Militant, etc. H. · At 3-9-2002 +0100 00:18, you wrote: Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch' (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11, which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV event'. Oh, and check the video... TOM .. . :: http://nomorewords.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Theo/KDJ Top 10 (was: bored)
Marsel wrote: and maybe a theo/kenny one together? Why not? Off the top of my head and in no particular order: Moodymann - I Can't Kick This Feeling When It Hits Norma Jeam Bell - I'm the Baddest Bitch (KDJ mix) Moodymann - Tribute (To the Soul We Lost) Moodymann - Small Black Church Theo Parrish - Took Me All the Way Back Moodymann - Shades of Jae Moodymann - The Answering Machine Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies Theo Parrish - China Trax Moodymann - JAN Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] Juice Records..
yeah, dirty house are still doing stuff. i saw a couple of new releases in a record store here in adelaide a week a go, but didn't get a chance to listen. adelaide is quite disappointing musically at the moment, both for local and international djs :( i'm hoping to start something up in the next few months, so if there are any adelaide heads that would like to help, hit me back. - Original Message - From: Pond, Quest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Cyclone Wehner' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:13 PM Subject: RE: [313] Juice Records.. Yes quite a bit of the Adelaide techno scene is here in Sydney or Melbourne. But there are a few left. That would be a sad day for Adelaide to loose HMC. One of the finest DJ's on the face of the planet! It's about time he made a bigger mark on the world scene. I know Damien who ran the 'Juice' label is still doing fine music under 'Outpost Incorporated' and last time i was in Adelaide he was saying they were concentrating on live music scene. As for Paddy and Theo from Juice i'm not to sure but aren't they still releasing the Dirty House' records? Also check DJ Bold's (Adelaide) record label 'vast recordings' for other newer juice related releases. Quest Sydney Ex Adelaide. www.deepspace.net.au -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 August, 2002 6:30 To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] Juice Records.. They still do stuff. HMC has left to live in Germany - or was about to when I last talked to him. The Adelaide scene is not so healthy now, there are talented people, but not the support, for techno. It's a small city so it feels the slump hardest. Sydney's Southern Outpost (quality electro and techno) or Melbourne's WET Musik (harder tech) has more prominence now, with Biz-E making his mark, and they all work the publicity angle better, and Oz house (deep to garage) is blowing up. From: Wibo Lammerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] Juice Records.. Date: 26/08/2002 21:55:32 To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org Whatever happened to them? Wondering, W - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] another causality
just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
classic phrase re: fake gigolos who sell the asses to the masses. man someone should bring out a tune called that! ha ha -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 09:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy here? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound are pushing the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price err sorry I mean fisherspooner :) -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 09:08 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy here? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
Dutch MTV/TMF and radio stations played the hell (:)) out of Tiga's cover of Sunglasses at night to. Fischerspooner is not on Gigolo anymore, they are on MOS now :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:49 Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound are pushing the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price err sorry I mean fisherspooner :) -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 09:08 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy here? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] another causality
I don't get why some techno purists have this agenda against electroclash, to be honest. Potentially it's introducing electro and even techno to a wider audience and possibly even reinvigorating the scene, I can see that even on a grassroots level from doing club listings, electroclash has an avant garde side. Surely anything is better than the same old progressive house and trance. Most of the press stories on it have contextualised electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and Cybotron, etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US (Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups), whereas trance seems very much Euro. nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
Sometimes Dutch national radio (most of it sucks by the way), but what I meant that everybody (well not everybody, just the playa´ haters) is picking so easy on Hell and Co. where as I think it's great to see a guy/posse who have been operating in the underground for so long with his electro/techno sounds finally get some reward. I remember hearing Hell around ´93 at big rave over here in Holland and he was playing all this freaky electro stuff besides banging techno an no one understood a thing about it but it was fng cool back then, so calling them a sell-out...nah! -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:49 Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound are pushing the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price err sorry I mean fisherspooner :) -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 09:08 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy here? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
for those of you who do not follow the global-techno mailing list...read the text below and start praying that this is not true...well Clarky bitching against Jules sounds like fun though:-) ´Subject Re: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist the playlist is from Ben Sims who was doing a guest mix on Fergies show. Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules. They mainly play techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such as Bailey, Umek etc This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called 'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his records so much so he recently went on record saying he didn't want any of his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show. The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !! I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules. They mainly play techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such as Bailey, Umek etc Most Prime-distributed releases are of about the same musical quality as Hard House, so it doesn't sursprise me really. Not to kick off the what is techno debate again, but to even describe Bailey, recent Umek, etc as techno is an insult. Its just another bandwagon and it will pass, but along the way the term techno is going to be dragged even further through the muck. Sean. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
Hmmm a populair Hard House DJ who picks up techno and probably will give it a big boost, now this sounds really a lot like another thread about some other music we had today :) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for those of you who do not follow the global-techno mailing list...read the text below and start praying that this is not true...well Clarky bitching against Jules sounds like fun though:-) -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules. They mainly play techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such as Bailey, Umek etc This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called 'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his records so much so he recently went on record saying he didn't want any of his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show. The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !! I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´ Well yeah... if that Jules guy has a techno show on Radio 1, he could as well play some deeper stuff than just the primate a-like stuff.. shoudn´t he? Anyway.. funny that Dave Clarke responded (if that is all true).. because Dave used to bang it too? And some of the techno bangers sound like hard house very much.. these things are getting quite progressive in my opinion. But you have also the hard good... (hardgroove - theory - pure plastic - ...) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
Sean Creen wrote on Tue, 3 Sep 2002 about following: Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules. They mainly play techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such as Bailey, Umek etc Most Prime-distributed releases are of about the same musical quality as Hard House, so it doesn't sursprise me really. Not to kick off the what is techno debate again, but to even describe Bailey, recent Umek, etc as techno is an insult. heh, agreed - have you guys heard the quite new oliver ho track, ancestors - it was really boring wannabe-hardhousey eurodisco-junk. sakke -- random rants and links at: http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist
Clarke is such a prima donna. Is he pissed off 'cos Jules playing his records damages his underground cred or is it more complicated than that? I don't think people should have a problem with big DJs playing techno records. They're not exactly going to play small underground venues with exclusively Detroit-flavoured sets, so they're not going to steal any underground DJs' gigs and if they're playing techno records on the radio, surely they're creating a bit of wealth for techno artists? I does annoy me though, seeing Jules et al go techno, though I realise this is being totally unreasonable. It's like discovering a beautiful, windswept, unspoilt beach and stretching out in the sun enjoying the peace and tranquility, only to return a fortnight later to find a beach covered with noisy obnoxious tourists and day-glo inflatables with lots of rude out-of-control kids running around. -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:46 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist for those of you who do not follow the global-techno mailing list...read the text below and start praying that this is not true...well Clarky bitching against Jules sounds like fun though:-) ´Subject Re: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist the playlist is from Ben Sims who was doing a guest mix on Fergies show. Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules. They mainly play techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such as Bailey, Umek etc This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called 'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his records so much so he recently went on record saying he didn't want any of his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show. The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !! I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
But why should it take this electroclash for people to look at Model 500 , Drexicya etc? Surely anything is better than the same old progressive house and trance. Yeah TECHNO :0) -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 09:52 To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] another causality I don't get why some techno purists have this agenda against electroclash, to be honest. Potentially it's introducing electro and even techno to a wider audience and possibly even reinvigorating the scene, I can see that even on a grassroots level from doing club listings, electroclash has an avant garde side. Surely anything is better than the same old progressive house and trance. Most of the press stories on it have contextualised electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and Cybotron, etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US (Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups), whereas trance seems very much Euro. nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
harder stuff back. Why can´t they just play detroit techno on the radio and plain electro? 'Cause then people might move on to discover Looped Bangers(tm.) ! fab. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
I heard those hard beats on a radioshow and liked it very much.. and in that way (one year later) I discovered detroit techno. Now I am selling all those harder stuff back. Why can´t they just play detroit techno on the radio and plain electro? Mainstream radio needs music that is easy to consume, if you listen to loop-techno it is obvious what to do: dance... nothing more nothing less, no personal things, just easy beats to dance to. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] essential track id
George Krantz - Din Daa Daa -Original Message- From: Maarten Baute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 11:44 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] essential track id Dingdad doen doeng doe deroen UMDADA UMDODO a roem toem tero rattatatatat ratta toem toem teroen toem toem plah blash! biribabrabiribiri a sound file could help ;) http://www.nuloop.com/real/Funk/dj001_a2.rm this is a track by dj funk that sampled the original, I want to know who did the original, thanks! Greets, Maarten --- Do you know these tracks? http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples (taken from various mix tapes) --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Fwd: RH distribution presents 3 new labels
fyi From: rushhour distribution [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RH distribution presents 3 new labels Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:43:39 +0200 1) INTERPERSONAL EXPERIENCE (STERAC personal label) Label Profile Interpersonal Experience is the long name Sterac made up to name his new label. Interpersonal Experience will be the label operated by Sterac aka Steve Rachmad. Releasing his (4 floor) techno on many other labels, Steve set up this personal label to release his Detroit influenced, electro minded tracks. Every release will feature two new electro tracks, every third track will be a rework of an 80 s classic. After ten releases there will be a 'best of..' compilation CD. Artist Profile Most of you will know Steve Rachmad already through his output on many labels or his famous DJ sets all around the world. This Amsterdam born music talent first started DJ ing professionally in the early 90 s as well as releasing music on ESP and 100% Pure. Later on he got a chance to release on Fragile (Transmat off shoot) when it was still THE Detroit label. This started to put him on the map. Since then many releases followed on labels such as M-Plant, Music Man, Scorp, Rotation, Tresor, Sino Jericho. While his recognition grew, he became a more in demand DJ and is now flying all over the globe to play. His personal high was playing the DEMF in Detroit, the city of inspiration. First Release [IE 001] Sterac Electronics My Preparation 12 September 2002 2) KINDRED SPIRITS (the best in (inter)national black music) Label Profile Kindred Spirits is born out of the monthly night held in the legendary Amsterdam located Paradiso venue. This label is initiated by the Paradiso programmer Kees Heus aka KC the Funkaholic. It will be AR by KC together with Antal Christiaan form Rush Hour. The label will release music in the spirit of what's being played on the night itself. This will be black music in general, with a spotlight on anything jazz, soul, funk. It can also be either old music or new music or a clash of the two. This label will something different to the world of compilations by having its own unique formula. It will bring the best out of national as well as international artists. First releases planned for this year include a Rednose Disrtikt remix 12 as well as a Sun Ra Dedication album with cover version of classic Sun Ra track by contemporary artists like Madlib, King Britt, Osunlade, Theo Parrish, Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco Mora, Kirk Degiorgio feat. Vanessa Freeman Jimi Tenor. Plans for two more soul orientated albums by well known national and international artists are planned. First Releases [KS 001] Rednose Distrikt feat. Alma Horton Make a Move (DJ Spinna feat Mark De-Clive Lowe RMX) 12 October 2002 [KS 002] Sun Ra Dedication project Madlib Kirk Degiorgio covers 12 album sampler October 2002 [KSLP 001] Sun Ra dedication project with versions by Madlib, King Britt, Osunlade, Theo Parrish, Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco Mora, Kirk Degiorgio feat. Vanessa Freeman Jimi Tenor CD/LP. More info TBA. 3) PIPO MUZIEK (Max 404 personal label) Label Profile Pipo muziek is Max 404's own personal label. On this label he will focus on his more dancier side and will feature new Max 404 productions, as well as projects together with befriended producers. In the pipeline are (besides new Max 404 records) EP's with Music For Speakers artists Aardvarck, David Sandor Caron and Sonar Lodge. An EP together with Stefan Robbers (Eevo Lute / Terrace / Florence / Acid Junkies) is also planned. Stylewize the label will explore the boundaries between house, techno and deep disco, balancing rough rhythms with Max 404's organic, lush atmospheres and melodies. Expect the first release on Pipo Muziek, Max 404's Dirty Dozen EP. to hit the stores in October. Artist Profile Max 404 is pseudonym of Dutch dance producer Erwin van Moll. Since 1992 he has been releasing internationally acclaimed records on labels such as Eevo Lute, DJAX, United, Universal Language (Tom Middleton's label), Mo Wax and S.S.R. (Freezone). He has also done remixes for artists such as David Holmes, Kirk De Giorgio, Gerd, Terrace and Rei Harakami. His productions are as musically diverse as his own musical taste: elements of techno, house, breakbeats, dub and ambient music blend together in an organic, unique sound. The last few years he s also been part of production duo Clashing Egos, composing producing records like Warm It s In the Music , a minor summer hit in 2001 featuring U.K. singer Kirsty Hawkshaw. At the moment they re working on a Clashing Egos album for Belgian label N.E.W.S. As a dj Max 404 is liked for his passion, musicality and ability to blend diverse styles (house, garage, techno, break- and offbeats, disco) into an exciting yet accessible mixture. He has played international clubs / parties such as The End (London),
Re: [313] another causality
I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. I'm ambivalent about their reasons: the resurgence of electro/new wave/italo type stuff is no different to all other music in that most of its rubbish (I mean Italo itself has got a pretty bad quality ratio) and the hotmix/clone/viewlexx stuff tends be the good stuff for me. And although the Electroclash thing can be overblown, people with peaked haircuts are fairly benign. All the media hype doesn't stop anyone from getting on doing their own thing, really. Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle, or some such thing. I hope they still make records, though Viewlexx has stopped. just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
I find this all very much a shame and a pity. I see the wrong people bashing on each other. It's not Hell's fault this electroclash hype trash thing is happening. It's MoS and the UK media that are to blame. They (MoS) invested a pile of money in Fisherspooner and in order to get their investment working, had their marketing machine working full throttle. And the media swollowed it like candy. Finally they had something juicy to write about, a new hype to create! And guess what, in a year or so they can all write it off as passé again, wow. Ok, maybe Hell likes to pose here and there a bit. But Ferenc has his own little habits too. I sure didn't hear him complaining when Space invaders got chosen record of the year in Germany '99. Besides, you're not telling me they all suddenly stopped making music now... Little PR stunt maybe? This is just not right. Joost -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
Besides, you're not telling me they all suddenly stopped making music now... Little PR stunt maybe? They did this before, Ferenc once said he was bored with making acid music (as Beverly Hills 808303) and stopped making it. He came back with these killer electro cuts. I doubt if Ferenc i verry PR aware anyway [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Soulseek down?
Go to www.slsk.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 13:16 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Soulseek down? I'm a bit concerned on the whereabouts of Soulseek. tried connecting after a few days offline and no response anymore. anybody else to experience this or is it just my new hardware configuration? -- take care, Ehtilrist - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too. I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: [313] another causality
Argghh! The mixes aren't there though, just the links. Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too. I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] cleaning vinyl
i meant polar / nonpolar ;) now i've completely killed the thread... ani : : -Original Message- : : From: seth redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:45 AM : : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org : : Subject: RE: [313] cleaning vinyl : : : : : : remember all you chemists out there: like dissolves like! ;) : : : : well, yes, but since most dirt will be lipid based (greasy : : fingers and all) : : this would mean you'd have to pour oil on your records. Not good. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Off topic about The Prodigy
Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy
Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of Massive Attck and Madonna singles -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy
didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video? that´s a weird but fantastic video -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 15:16 Aan: 'Robert Taylor'; Ian Cheshire; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy your a star thanks! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 15:19 To: 'Ian Cheshire'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of Massive Attck and Madonna singles -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy
mate that is a wicked video, those girls the whole thing was typical Prodigy. I have to say I am very lucky as Keith Flint's mum and Dad live at the house at the back of mine, so I speak to his dad when I am in the garden yep you have guessed it gardening! a I see Liam Howlett most weeks in his Lotus and his bright hair.. Their mates drink up me local and go to their houses driving their motor bikes in Keith's back garden!! nutters I tell ya thru and thru! -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 13:38 To: Ian Cheshire; 'Robert Taylor'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video? that´s a weird but fantastic video -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 15:16 Aan: 'Robert Taylor'; Ian Cheshire; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy your a star thanks! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 15:19 To: 'Ian Cheshire'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of Massive Attck and Madonna singles -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy
sounds like fun...even gardening is more fun then:-) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 15:23 Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; Ian Cheshire; 'Robert Taylor'; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy mate that is a wicked video, those girls the whole thing was typical Prodigy. I have to say I am very lucky as Keith Flint's mum and Dad live at the house at the back of mine, so I speak to his dad when I am in the garden yep you have guessed it gardening! a I see Liam Howlett most weeks in his Lotus and his bright hair.. Their mates drink up me local and go to their houses driving their motor bikes in Keith's back garden!! nutters I tell ya thru and thru! -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 13:38 To: Ian Cheshire; 'Robert Taylor'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video? that´s a weird but fantastic video -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 15:16 Aan: 'Robert Taylor'; Ian Cheshire; 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy your a star thanks! -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 15:19 To: 'Ian Cheshire'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of Massive Attck and Madonna singles -Original Message- From: Ian Cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Cyclone wrote: Most of the press stories on it have contextualised electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and Cybotron, Sorry, but those are very few and far between. And *if* they are mentioned at all (I've never seen Drexciya or Model 500 mentioned, only Cybotron once, most of the time only Kraftwerk and/or Bambaataa get a nod), it's maybe as a quote from one of the artists that doesn't get followed up. You can count the journalists that wrote about electroca$h that are really knowledgable on one hand unfortunately. etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US (Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups) Not to mention Italian disco, German wave music and the whole The Hague scene. Pretty soon the UK and US influences will be sanitized away as well and we'll all be kneeling at the altar of Hell. Otto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not happy with. That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all. *That* is the real problem. It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that sound is so passe, dahlin'... Otto PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance). PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch yesterday on the Lowlands-list already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Electro mix alert!
I've got a bit of time on my hands these days (since officially joining the ranks of the unemployed). Anyways, just banged out a mix for a website called Prolectric. Goto http:/www.prolectric.com to listen. Here's the playlist: Artist - Title (Label) Psi Performer - Art Is A Division Of Pain [Shapes Forms rmx] (K2 O) Southern Outpost - Boogie Down Detroit [WDJK1 Radio Mix] (Southern Outpost) Arpanet - Illuminated Displays (Record Makers) DJ Bone - The Funk (Metroplex) The Advent - Another Planet (Kombination Research) Rac - Quexos (Warp) New Order - Everything's Gone Green [Advents Electric Green Mix] (Internal) Human League - All I Ever Wanted [Alter Ego rmx] (Klang Elektronik) Eon - Phaze Test [String Phase] (Electron Industries) GD Luxxe - New Definition [Pulsinger Bass Mix] (Interdimensional Transmission) Remote - The Swarm (Underground Resistance) Detroit Grand Pubahs - Plasticene Gene (Intuit Solar) Little Computer People - Little Computer People [Karl Bartos Mix] (PSI49NET) Drexciya - Hydro Cubes (SVE-6) A Number Of Names - Shari Vari [The Hacker Vitalic rmx] (Gigolo) Patrick Darkfarmer - One Fingered Funk (Voltmusik) Adult - Hand to Phone (Clone) My Robot Friend - The Fake [Zombie Nation rmx] (Dekathlon) Enjoy! G - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Rant on Otto, you ain't lyin'. IMO most of 'our scene' especially the music has become a mostly '2 hype' trend. The beauty of that is, just when 'they' think they have it all figurred and neatly compartmentalized, something truly poetic or original will emerge to challenge. The truly amazing stuff usually arises from the ashes of something else... 2 sense From: Otto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] another causality Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:39:38 +0200 Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not happy with. That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all. *That* is the real problem. It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that sound is so passe, dahlin'... Otto PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance). PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch yesterday on the Lowlands-list already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Re: Electro argument Check it: www.viewlexx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
Hi Otto, yes you are right. But still they shouldn't blame it all on the wrong people. This scene is already too small to turn it into a I am more underground than you contest. IMHO they should just continue what they like doing best. And if in a few months they are being dismissed as sooo passé then pity for those losers. Joost -Original Message- From: Otto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 16:40 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] another causality Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not happy with. That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all. *That* is the real problem. It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that sound is so passe, dahlin'... Otto PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance). PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch yesterday on the Lowlands-list already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
the global darkness mixes are still there: http://www.globaldarkness.com/mix/mixes.htm Argghh! The mixes aren't there though, just the links. Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too. I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of them mixes over at hotmix. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] sun ra covers (was: RH distribution presents 3 new labels)
are these new tracks [sun ra dedication album], or previously released tracks? i've got a 12 by quasimoto [aka madlib] where he uses parts of 'space is the place'. does sun ra get sampled a lot? or covered even? just curious, jurren 2) KINDRED SPIRITS (the best in (inter)national black music) First releases planned for this year include a Rednose Disrtikt remix 12 as well as a Sun Ra Dedication album with cover version of classic Sun Ra track by contemporary artists like Madlib, King Britt, Osunlade, Theo Parrish, Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco Mora, Kirk Degiorgio feat. Vanessa Freeman Jimi Tenor. Plans for two more soul orientated albums by well known national and international artists are planned. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] another causality
Doh! Maybe i should read all the posts from a certain thread before making a redundant post. Oh well, that's what happens when you don't check your mail regularily. Just to add my .02cents... As long as people are having fun and no one's getting hurt... why not. While some establish artists may despise the whole Electroclash trend. I've personally encountered instances where people have heard about the trend - Checked out the music, and as a result, have discovered the music made by many established electro artists. There's good and bad things to every story i suppose. Cheers! G Gerald wrote: Re: Electro argument Check it: www.viewlexx.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Balihu website
Here it is: http://home.earthlink.net/~balihu/ check out the link to the dope Tee Scott interview Danny did! minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org SEPT: Arne Weinberg Beauty in Decay dL008 Convextion 12 dLVEXT1 OCT: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX NOV: Polarius 12 dL009 JAN: Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] off topic - cubase VST help
can anyone help me? I've just upgraded from cubase on the atari st to cubase VST v.3.7 for my pentiun 166. I can't get any midi signal in or out - it shows an output bar but none of my equipment is being sequenced, and there is no input whatsoever from my controller keyboard. It's driving me crazy. my souncard is only a soundblaster 16, but I won't be using it for audio recording - just midi sequencing. Is it because it's not an official version (no dongle)? Sorry it's off subject but I'm desperate. Please mail me. john :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] brubaker
Who is responsible for the Brubaker tracks on Ifach, the usual suspects (Ford, et. al.?) ? That track texas sun is great, and stringier and more detroit feeling than the typical clinical techno --but still good-- Ifach roster sound. Gotta find this on one wax... ace. cheers, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: [313] Questions for Carl Craig?
BTW, the reason for this feature is his new double mix CD forthcoming on React, 'The Workout', which no doubt listmembers Marsel, Otto and Fabrice will be well aware of as he's licensed tracks from all three of them. I know that he licensed a Duplex track, i.e. the Fabrice Lig remix of 'Meta', for it, but that was released on Clone, not on Keynote/Ground Zero (I released the 'Autosave' EP). Maybe that's the source of the confusion? OK I'm a week late to this thread, but has anyone seen or posted a final tracklist for this mix CD? SOunds right up my alley, can't wait! React is still keeping an eye on the Detroit DJs then, eh? Cheers, matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] essential track id
George Krantz - Din Daa Daa an essential classic, as goofy as it is! Has been sampled by many. I'll never forget when Rob Hood dropped this one during a set peak to a packed warehouse at the Metroplex 10th annivarsary party... that gigantic buildup. I was told there was a re-edit bootleg version of this track that was quantized to stay in time, much easier to mix... but I've never actually seen one. Anyone know more about it? peace, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
Although it's not techno per se, what about Theo Parrish's Instant Insanity. Not only was it a response to the events, it was released not too long after. I think it was pretty limited in numbers though, and never made it as a proper Sound Signature release. I just have a white label, I never saw a proper labeled copy, was there one? ALso AFAIK it was a benefit record and not-for-profit. I still think that his usage of the passing fire truck horn as an element of the track made it all the more haunting. and the quotes of just pure bewilderment of people at the time... and clips from people in news interviews. trying to understand it, if that could even be possible... it's pretty wild. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [313] essential track id
That would happen to be the one on a white label by The Goodguys, would it? Din Daa Daa '91 I think it was called? Not really sure if that was a re-edit so much as it was a remix though Matt E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.magicmattkelly.com - Original Message - From: Matthew MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org Cc: Sean Creen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Maarten Baute [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: RE: [313] essential track id George Krantz - Din Daa Daa an essential classic, as goofy as it is! Has been sampled by many. I'll never forget when Rob Hood dropped this one during a set peak to a packed warehouse at the Metroplex 10th annivarsary party... that gigantic buildup. I was told there was a re-edit bootleg version of this track that was quantized to stay in time, much easier to mix... but I've never actually seen one. Anyone know more about it? peace, Matt - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] CD Japan coupon (OT)
Hey. I know requests for Japanese music suppliers was made on at least these two lists. Here's a coupon I just got from CD Japan which might shave a few cents off of a purchase : - Hi. Thank you for being a valuable customer of CDJapan. We would like to offer you a 500 yen coupon valid for ordering any item available from CDJapan, including future releases. It is our way of expressing our appreciation. This coupon is valid until September 30th for an order with item price subtotal of 3,000 yen or more. To redeem your 500 yen coupon, add item(s) to shopping cart, and proceed with checkout as usual, and enter the following code: ZM148GUBI Coupon is valid for only one order, and the Coupon button will disappear once it is used, or after it expires on September 30th. It can not be applied on orders placed previously even if it is still active, but has not been shipped. We look forward for your visit again to CDJapan soon. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]