Re: [313] Stacey Pullen

2002-09-03 Thread Moe Fuzz

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Does anyone recall what Ubiquity compilation features new music from Stacey
Pullen?


No Categories 5  CD had an exclusive track by Stacey Pullen Liquid 
Letter, and the compilation also featured  a Stacey Pullen remix of  As 
One's Another Revolution  which was also released as a 12.



Check out this link for more info

No Categories 5 :: Eclectic Music For Electronic Minds (Ubiquity)
http://www.ubiquityrecords.com/asp/xq/asp/album.244/label.2/qx/album_template.htm


PS - I believe Zero DB (Fluid Ounce/Ubiquity) will be spinning on Bossa 
Super Nova this Wednesday 8-10pm (PST) on KUCI.org  I'll post more on it as 
soon as I find out more


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Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread Tom Robbins/Magic Feet
Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch'
(www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11,
which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind
of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV
event'.

Oh, and check the video...

TOM


 Well, the United States is now an official police state, in my opinion.

 I think it has had a negative impact, but indirectly.

 As far as specific artistic responses I haven't come across much--too
 some extent as an artist I'd rather avoid an issue that is so overhyped
 in the media, in retrospect it almost seems like a planned Made For TV
 event, which certainly was extremely helpful to our current political
 leaders.

 I would expect in the current climate to see some artists become more
 politicized out of necessity almost, although I'm not aware whether this
 is actually happening.

 /dave_ [cyborg K]


 Odeluga, Ken wrote:

 Just canvassing for some thoughts a year after that cataclysmic event ...
 
 Was there a change in the soul of America? Did it find voice in music,
 including music out of Detroit?
 
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RE: [313] one year later

2002-09-03 Thread Max Duley / ARCart
h, Chris Korda, I caught his live set @ Sonar 2001. Now there is a guy
who really needs the shock tactic visual element...to distract
people from the fact that his music is so lame. Irritating is about as
accurate as I can get.


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Sam Eilola:

Subject: Twin tower porn music: I Like to Watch on 9-11

The music from Chris Korda's infamous I Like to Watch video will

... Hmmm. *Not* quite what I had in mind. But it's a point of view ... any
others?
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Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Dinsmor
Although it's not techno per se, what about Theo Parrish's Instant
Insanity. Not only was it a response to the events, it was released not too
long after. I think it was pretty limited in numbers though, and never made
it as a proper Sound Signature release.

I still think that his usage of the passing fire truck horn as an element of
the track made it all the more haunting.


ID

 From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 00:18:49 +0100
 To: 313 mailing list 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER
 
 Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch'
 (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11,
 which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind
 of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV
 event'.
 
 Oh, and check the video...
 
 TOM
 
 
 Well, the United States is now an official police state, in my opinion.
 
 I think it has had a negative impact, but indirectly.
 
 As far as specific artistic responses I haven't come across much--too
 some extent as an artist I'd rather avoid an issue that is so overhyped
 in the media, in retrospect it almost seems like a planned Made For TV
 event, which certainly was extremely helpful to our current political
 leaders.
 
 I would expect in the current climate to see some artists become more
 politicized out of necessity almost, although I'm not aware whether this
 is actually happening.
 
 /dave_ [cyborg K]
 
 
 Odeluga, Ken wrote:
 
 Just canvassing for some thoughts a year after that cataclysmic event ...
 
 Was there a change in the soul of America? Did it find voice in music,
 including music out of Detroit?
 
 k
 
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Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread Wes
New Yorker Steve Stoll's album on Fine Audio, 'Windows on the World' (named 
after the ill-fated tower-top restaurant) comes to mind. Stoll's machine 
rhythms 
have never sounded angrier or more eloquent, especially on tracks like Jumping 
Off or I Erupt. Gaiden's 'Walking on Wires' (Music Man) was dedicated to the 
9/11 victims as well, if memory serves.

 Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch'
 (www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11,
 which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind
 of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV
 event'.
 
 Oh, and check the video...
 
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Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread marsel


from Forcefield, december 2001

· The terrorist actions of 9-11 also find their way out into the land of 
music. Theo Parrish just put out a one-sided single with lots of going TV- 
 radio samples, and of which he will denote all earnings to rescue funds. 
A lot less peaceful goes a release by Sonic Groove, called “United Effort: 
Techno against Terrorism”, with titles as “Feeling Militant”, etc. H… ·


At 3-9-2002 +0100 00:18, you wrote:

Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch'
(www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11,
which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually kind
of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV
event'.

Oh, and check the video...

TOM



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Re: [313] bored

2002-09-03 Thread Benn Glazier
Trying to recall.. but does this release have Project 625, Octave One
(or is it RNG), Wink, 3rd From The Sun.

If this is the correct record, then yes it's available on vinyl. You
might want to check what tracks are on vinyl as opposed to the CD. 
Can't remember of the top of my head.

r1./ 


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  never on sunday - journey (retroactice/buzz)
 
 
 Is the deepest shade of techno (ssr/crammed) 2xCD also released on
 vinyl?
 Because getting the above mentioned tune on retroactive would be
 hard... and
 foremost expensive!
 
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RE: [313] bored

2002-09-03 Thread Martin Aedla
these are from deepest shade of techno 1
vinyl versions were released on reflective, kind of techno offshoot of
reinforced records

martin

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 Trying to recall.. but does this release have Project 625, Octave One
 (or is it RNG), Wink, 3rd From The Sun.
 
 If this is the correct record, then yes it's available on vinyl. You
 might want to check what tracks are on vinyl as opposed to the CD. 
 Can't remember of the top of my head.
 
 r1./ 
 
 
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  Is the deepest shade of techno (ssr/crammed) 2xCD also released on
  vinyl?
  Because getting the above mentioned tune on retroactive would be
  hard... and
  foremost expensive!
  
  Thanks,
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RE: [313] one year later

2002-09-03 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Max Duley / ARCart wrote on Tue, 3 Sep 2002 about following:

 h, Chris Korda, I caught his live set @ Sonar 2001. Now there is a guy
 who really needs the shock tactic visual element...to distract
 people from the fact that his music is so lame. Irritating is about as
 accurate as I can get.

there's plenty of tracks for download on his site - 'i like to watch' is 
ok compared to the rest which is total garbage. 

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Re: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread timpig
no offense meant, but the US is the richest nation in the world - why should
there be any need to donate money for rescue funds?


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from Forcefield, december 2001

· The terrorist actions of 9-11 also find their way out into the land of
music. Theo Parrish just put out a one-sided single with lots of going TV-
 radio samples, and of which he will denote all earnings to rescue funds.
A lot less peaceful goes a release by Sonic Groove, called United Effort:
Techno against Terrorism, with titles as Feeling Militant, etc. H. ·

At 3-9-2002 +0100 00:18, you wrote:
Gigolo artist Chris Korda's track 'I Like To Watch'
(www.churchofeuthanasia.org) is about the only techno response to 9/11,
which is also the date he's intending to release it. The track actually
kind
of echoes Dave's comment below about it almost seeming like a 'Made For TV
event'.

Oh, and check the video...

TOM


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RE: [313] Theo/KDJ Top 10 (was: bored)

2002-09-03 Thread Sean Creen
Marsel wrote:

and maybe a theo/kenny one together?

Why not? Off the top of my head and in no particular order:

Moodymann - I Can't Kick This Feeling When It Hits
Norma Jeam Bell - I'm the Baddest Bitch (KDJ mix)
Moodymann - Tribute (To the Soul We Lost)
Moodymann - Small Black Church
Theo Parrish - Took Me All the Way Back
Moodymann - Shades of Jae
Moodymann - The Answering Machine
Moodymann - Dem Young Sconies
Theo Parrish - China Trax
Moodymann - JAN

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Re: [313] Juice Records..

2002-09-03 Thread nathan goode
yeah, dirty house are still doing stuff. i saw a couple of new releases in a
record store here in adelaide a week a go, but didn't get a chance to
listen. adelaide is quite disappointing musically at the moment, both for
local and international djs :( i'm hoping to start something up in the next
few months, so if there are any adelaide heads that would like to help, hit
me back.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: [313] Juice Records..


 Yes quite a bit of the Adelaide techno scene is here in Sydney or
Melbourne.
 But there are a few left.

 That would be a sad day for Adelaide to loose HMC. One of the finest DJ's
on
 the face of the planet! It's about time he made a bigger mark on the world
 scene.

 I know Damien who ran the 'Juice' label is still doing fine music under
 'Outpost Incorporated' and last time i was in Adelaide he was saying they
 were concentrating on live music scene.

 As for Paddy and Theo from Juice i'm not to sure but aren't they still
 releasing the Dirty House' records?

 Also check DJ Bold's (Adelaide) record label 'vast recordings' for other
 newer juice related releases.

 Quest
 Sydney Ex Adelaide.
 www.deepspace.net.au

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 To: 313 Detroit
 Subject: [313] Juice Records..


 They still do stuff.

 HMC has left to live in Germany - or was about to when I last talked to
him.

 The Adelaide scene is not so healthy now, there are talented people, but
not
 the support, for techno. It's a small city so it feels the slump hardest.

 Sydney's Southern Outpost (quality electro and techno) or Melbourne's WET
 Musik (harder tech) has more prominence now, with Biz-E making his mark,
and
 they all work the publicity angle better, and Oz house (deep to garage) is
 blowing up.


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  Subject: [313] Juice Records..
  Date: 26/08/2002 21:55:32
  To: '313@hyperreal.org' 313@hyperreal.org
 
 
 
  Whatever happened to them?
 
  Wondering,
 
  W
 
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[313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jason Donnelly

just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down

nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

jason


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
 
 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down
 
 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Cheshire
classic phrase re: fake gigolos who sell the asses to the masses.

man someone should bring out a tune called that! ha ha 

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 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down
 
 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling
out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act
performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy
here?

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 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down

 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Cheshire
err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound are pushing
the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price 
err sorry I mean fisherspooner :)

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jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling
out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act
performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy
here?

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 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down

 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Dutch MTV/TMF and radio stations played the hell (:)) out of Tiga's cover of
Sunglasses at night to. Fischerspooner is not on Gigolo anymore, they are on
MOS now :)

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 err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound 
 are pushing
 the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price 
 err sorry I mean fisherspooner :)
 
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 Sent: 03 September 2002 09:08
 To: Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
 Subject: RE: [313] another causality
 
 
 jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo 
 posse on selling
 out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act
 performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell 
 some jealousy
 here?
 
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 Verzonden: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48
 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org
 Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality
 
 
 
  just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down
 
  nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.
 
 Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
 ---
 We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created 
 eighties retro
 fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser 
 attitude of the fake
 Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all 
 follow your
 leader into the electroclash HELL!
 ---
 
 just wondering to whom it is addressed :)
 
 
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[313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't get why some techno purists have this agenda against electroclash,
to be honest. Potentially it's introducing  electro and even techno to a
wider audience and possibly even reinvigorating the scene, I can see that
even on a grassroots level from doing club listings, electroclash has an
avant garde side. Surely anything is better than the same old progressive
house and trance. Most of the press stories on it have contextualised
electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and
Cybotron, etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on
electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international
scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US
(Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups), whereas trance seems very much
Euro.


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Sometimes Dutch national radio (most of it sucks by the way), but what I
meant that everybody (well not everybody, just the playa´ haters) is picking
so easy on Hell and Co. where as I think it's great to see a guy/posse who
have been operating in the underground for so long with his electro/techno
sounds finally get some reward. I remember hearing Hell around ´93 at big
rave over here in Holland and he was playing all this freaky electro stuff
besides banging techno an no one understood a thing about it but it was
fng cool back then, so calling them a sell-out...nah!



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Aan: 'Martijn de Blaauw'; Jongsma, K.J.; 313@hyperreal.org
Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality


err what radio do you listen too then? cos Ministry of Sound are pushing
the Electro Clash theme heavily in the UK as they signed Fisher Price
err sorry I mean fisherspooner :)

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Subject: RE: [313] another causality


jeeezz..here we go again...it's so easy blaming this gigolo posse on selling
out and everything but I haven't seen dj hell or some other gigolo act
performing on national TV or Radio..so come on..do I smell some jealousy
here?

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Onderwerp: RE: [313] another causality



 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down

 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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[313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
for those of you who do not follow the global-techno mailing list...read the
text below and start praying that this is not true...well Clarky bitching
against Jules sounds like fun though:-)

´Subject Re: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

the playlist is from Ben Sims who was doing a guest mix on Fergies show.

Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules.
They mainly play  techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such
as Bailey, Umek etc
This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called
'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes
playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his
records so much so he recently went on record  saying he didn't want any of
his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show.
The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !!
I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´





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RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Sean Creen
Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules.
They mainly play  techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such
as Bailey, Umek etc


Most Prime-distributed releases are of about the same musical quality as
Hard House, so it doesn't sursprise me really. Not to kick off the what is
techno debate again, but to even describe Bailey, recent Umek, etc as
techno is an insult.
Its just another bandwagon and it will pass, but along the way the term
techno is going to be dragged even further through the muck.

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RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.
Hmmm a populair Hard House DJ who picks up techno and probably will give it
a big boost, now this sounds really a lot like another thread about some
other music we had today :)

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 Clarky bitching
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Re: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Maarten Baute
 Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules.
 They mainly play  techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such
 as Bailey, Umek etc
 This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called
 'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes
 playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his
 records so much so he recently went on record  saying he didn't want any
of
 his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show.
 The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !!
 I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´

Well yeah... if that Jules guy has a techno show on Radio 1, he could as
well play some deeper stuff than just the primate a-like stuff.. shoudn´t
he?

Anyway.. funny that Dave Clarke responded (if that is all true).. because
Dave used to bang it too?

And some of the techno bangers sound like hard house very much.. these
things are getting quite progressive in my opinion. But you have also the
hard  good... (hardgroove - theory - pure plastic - ...)


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RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Sean Creen wrote on Tue, 3 Sep 2002 about following:

 Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules.
 They mainly play  techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such
 as Bailey, Umek etc
 
 Most Prime-distributed releases are of about the same musical quality as
 Hard House, so it doesn't sursprise me really. Not to kick off the what is
 techno debate again, but to even describe Bailey, recent Umek, etc as
 techno is an insult.

heh, agreed - have you guys heard the quite new oliver ho track, 
ancestors - it was really boring wannabe-hardhousey eurodisco-junk.

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RE: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

2002-09-03 Thread Robert Taylor
Clarke is such a prima donna. Is he pissed off 'cos Jules playing his
records damages his underground cred or is it more complicated than that?
I don't think people should have a problem with big DJs playing techno
records. They're not exactly going to play small underground venues with
exclusively Detroit-flavoured sets, so they're not going to steal any
underground DJs' gigs and if they're playing techno records on the radio,
surely they're creating a bit of wealth for techno artists?
I does annoy me though, seeing Jules et al go techno, though I realise
this is being totally unreasonable.
It's like discovering a beautiful, windswept, unspoilt beach and stretching
out in the sun enjoying the peace and tranquility, only to return a
fortnight later to find a beach covered with noisy obnoxious tourists and
day-glo inflatables with lots of rude out-of-control kids running around.
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Subject: [313] FW: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist


for those of you who do not follow the global-techno mailing list...read the
text below and start praying that this is not true...well Clarky bitching
against Jules sounds like fun though:-)

´Subject Re: (G-TECH) Ben Sims Radio 1 playlist

the playlist is from Ben Sims who was doing a guest mix on Fergies show.

Fergie is current playing some techno alongside Judge Jules.
They mainly play  techno from the big selling Prime labels by artists such
as Bailey, Umek etc
This has prompted English dance magazine DJ to run an article called
'Is Techno the new Hard House ?? ' quoting both Jules on how much he likes
playing Techno and Dave Clarke on how much he hates Jules playing his
records so much so he recently went on record  saying he didn't want any of
his records played by Jules on his Radio 1 show.
The Baron (bitch) of Techno has spoken !!
I think the issue of DJ which it features in, is out next week.´





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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Cheshire
But why should it take this electroclash for people to look
at Model 500 , Drexicya etc?

Surely anything is better than the same old progressive
house and trance.

Yeah TECHNO :0)


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Subject: [313] another causality


I don't get why some techno purists have this agenda against electroclash,
to be honest. Potentially it's introducing  electro and even techno to a
wider audience and possibly even reinvigorating the scene, I can see that
even on a grassroots level from doing club listings, electroclash has an
avant garde side. Surely anything is better than the same old progressive
house and trance. Most of the press stories on it have contextualised
electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and
Cybotron, etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on
electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international
scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US
(Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups), whereas trance seems very much
Euro.


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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Fabrizio Nahum

 harder stuff back. Why can´t they just play detroit techno on the radio
and
 plain electro?

'Cause then people might move on to discover Looped Bangers(tm.) !

fab.


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 I heard those hard beats on a radioshow and liked it very 
 much.. and in that
 way (one year later) I discovered detroit techno. Now I am 
 selling all those
 harder stuff back. Why can´t they just play detroit techno on 
 the radio and
 plain electro?

Mainstream radio needs music that is easy to consume, if you listen to
loop-techno it is obvious what to do: dance... nothing more nothing less, no
personal things, just easy beats to dance to. 

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RE: [313] essential track id

2002-09-03 Thread Sean Creen
George Krantz - Din Daa Daa

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Subject: [313] essential track id


Dingdad doen doeng doe deroen

UMDADA UMDODO a roem toem tero

rattatatatat ratta toem toem teroen

toem toem plah blash!

biribabrabiribiri


a sound file could help ;)
http://www.nuloop.com/real/Funk/dj001_a2.rm
this is a track by dj funk that sampled the original, I want to know who did
the original, thanks!

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[313] Fwd: RH distribution presents 3 new labels

2002-09-03 Thread marsel


fyi


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Subject: RH distribution presents 3 new labels
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:43:39 +0200





1) INTERPERSONAL EXPERIENCE (STERAC personal label)

Label Profile
Interpersonal Experience is the long name Sterac made up to name his new 
label. Interpersonal Experience will be the label operated by Sterac aka 
Steve Rachmad. Releasing his (4 floor) techno on many other labels, Steve 
set up this personal label to release his Detroit influenced, electro 
minded tracks. Every release will feature two new electro tracks, every 
third track will be a rework of an 80 s classic. After ten releases there 
will be a 'best of..' compilation CD.


Artist Profile
Most of you will know Steve Rachmad already through his output on many 
labels or his famous DJ sets all around the world. This Amsterdam born 
music talent first started DJ ing professionally in the early 90 s as well 
as releasing music on ESP and 100% Pure. Later on he got a chance to 
release on Fragile (Transmat off shoot) when it was still THE Detroit 
label. This started to put him on the map. Since then many releases 
followed on labels such as M-Plant, Music Man, Scorp, Rotation, Tresor, 
Sino  Jericho. While his recognition grew, he became a more in demand DJ 
and is now flying all over the globe to play. His personal high was 
playing the DEMF in Detroit, the city of inspiration.


First Release
[IE 001] Sterac Electronics My Preparation 12 September 2002

2) KINDRED SPIRITS  (the best in (inter)national black music)

Label Profile
Kindred Spirits is born out of the monthly night held in the legendary 
Amsterdam located Paradiso venue. This label is initiated by the Paradiso 
programmer Kees Heus aka KC the Funkaholic. It will be AR by KC together 
with Antal  Christiaan form Rush Hour. The label will release music in 
the spirit of what's being played on the night itself. This will be black 
music in general, with a spotlight on anything jazz, soul, funk. It can 
also be either old music or new music or a clash of the two. This label 
will something different to the world of compilations by having its own 
unique formula. It will bring the best out of national as well as 
international artists. First releases planned for this year include a 
Rednose Disrtikt remix 12 as well as a Sun Ra Dedication album with cover 
version of classic Sun Ra track by contemporary artists like Madlib, King 
Britt, Osunlade, Theo Parrish, Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco 
Mora, Kirk Degiorgio feat. Vanessa Freeman  Jimi Tenor. Plans for two 
more soul orientated albums by well known national and international 
artists are planned.


First Releases
[KS 001] Rednose Distrikt feat. Alma Horton Make a Move (DJ Spinna feat 
Mark De-Clive Lowe RMX) 12 October 2002
[KS 002] Sun Ra Dedication project Madlib  Kirk Degiorgio covers 12 
album sampler October 2002
[KSLP 001] Sun Ra dedication project with versions by Madlib, King Britt, 
Osunlade, Theo Parrish, Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco Mora, Kirk 
Degiorgio feat. Vanessa Freeman  Jimi Tenor CD/LP. More info TBA.


3) PIPO MUZIEK (Max 404 personal label)

Label Profile
Pipo muziek is Max 404's own personal label. On this label he will focus 
on his more dancier side and will feature new Max 404 productions, as well 
as projects together with befriended producers. In the pipeline are 
(besides new Max 404 records) EP's with Music For Speakers artists 
Aardvarck, David  Sandor Caron and Sonar Lodge. An EP together with 
Stefan Robbers (Eevo Lute / Terrace / Florence / Acid Junkies) is also 
planned. Stylewize the label will explore the boundaries between house, 
techno and deep disco, balancing rough rhythms with Max 404's organic, 
lush atmospheres and melodies. Expect the first release on Pipo Muziek, 
Max 404's Dirty Dozen EP. to hit the stores in October.


Artist Profile
Max 404 is pseudonym of Dutch dance producer Erwin van Moll. Since 1992 he 
has been releasing internationally acclaimed records on labels such as 
Eevo Lute, DJAX, United, Universal Language (Tom Middleton's label), Mo 
Wax and S.S.R. (Freezone). He has also done remixes for artists such as 
David Holmes, Kirk De Giorgio, Gerd, Terrace and Rei Harakami. His 
productions are as musically diverse as his own musical taste: elements of 
techno, house, breakbeats, dub and ambient music blend together in an 
organic, unique sound.  The last few years he s also been part of 
production duo Clashing Egos, composing  producing records like Warm It 
s In the Music , a minor summer hit in 2001 featuring U.K. singer Kirsty 
Hawkshaw. At the moment they re working on a Clashing Egos album for 
Belgian label N.E.W.S. As a dj Max 404 is liked for his passion, 
musicality and ability to blend diverse styles (house, garage, techno, 
break- and offbeats, disco) into an exciting yet accessible mixture. He 
has played international clubs / parties such as The End (London), 

Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jonny McIntosh
I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of
them mixes over at hotmix. I'm ambivalent about their reasons: the
resurgence of electro/new wave/italo type stuff is no different to all other
music in that most of its rubbish (I mean Italo itself has got a pretty bad
quality ratio) and the hotmix/clone/viewlexx stuff tends be the good stuff
for me. And although the Electroclash thing can be overblown, people with
peaked haircuts are fairly benign. All the media hype doesn't stop anyone
from getting on doing their own thing, really. Still, I clearly don't know
Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the
Spectacle, or some such thing. I hope they still make records, though
Viewlexx has stopped.

 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down

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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
I find this all very much a shame and a pity. I see the wrong people bashing
on each other. 
It's not Hell's fault this electroclash hype trash thing is happening. It's
MoS and the UK media that are to blame. They (MoS) invested a pile of money
in Fisherspooner and in order to get their investment working, had their
marketing machine working full throttle. And the media swollowed it like
candy. Finally they had something juicy to write about, a new hype to
create! And guess what, in a year or so they can all write it off as passé
again, wow.

Ok, maybe Hell likes to pose here and there a bit. But Ferenc has his own
little habits too. I sure didn't hear him complaining when Space invaders
got chosen record of the year in Germany '99. 

Besides, you're not telling me they all suddenly stopped making music now...
Little PR stunt maybe?

This is just not right.

Joost

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To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: [313] another causality


 
 just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down
 
 nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left.

Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com):
---
We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro
fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake
Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your
leader into the electroclash HELL!
---

just wondering to whom it is addressed :)


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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jongsma, K.J.

 Besides, you're not telling me they all suddenly stopped 
 making music now...
 Little PR stunt maybe?

They did this before, Ferenc once said he was bored with making acid music
(as Beverly Hills 808303) and stopped making it. He came back with these
killer electro cuts. I doubt if Ferenc i verry PR aware anyway

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RE: [313] Soulseek down?

2002-09-03 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Go to www.slsk.org

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I'm a bit concerned on the whereabouts of Soulseek.
tried connecting after a few days offline and no response anymore. anybody
else to experience this or is it just my new hardware configuration?

  

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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was looking
for the I-f mixes, which are still up at http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm
and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too.

 I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few of
 them mixes over at hotmix.



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Fw: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Jonny McIntosh
Argghh! The mixes aren't there though, just the links.

 Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was
looking
 for the I-f mixes, which are still up at
http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm
 and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too.

  I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few
of
  them mixes over at hotmix.




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RE: [313] cleaning vinyl

2002-09-03 Thread ani
i meant polar / nonpolar  ;)

now i've completely killed the thread...

ani

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[313] Off topic about The Prodigy

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Cheshire

Can anyone tell me who directed the Video to Breathe?


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RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy

2002-09-03 Thread Robert Taylor
Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of
Massive Attck and Madonna singles

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RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video?  that´s a weird but fantastic
video

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your a star thanks!

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Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of
Massive Attck and Madonna singles

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RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy

2002-09-03 Thread Ian Cheshire
mate that is a wicked video, those girls the whole thing was
typical Prodigy.

I have to say I am very lucky as Keith Flint's mum and Dad live at
the house at the back of mine, so I speak to his dad when I am in the garden
yep
you have guessed it gardening! a I see Liam Howlett most weeks in his Lotus 
and his bright hair.. 

Their mates drink up me local and go to their houses driving their motor
bikes in Keith's back garden!!
nutters I tell ya thru and thru!

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didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video?  that´s a weird but fantastic
video

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your a star thanks!

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Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of
Massive Attck and Madonna singles

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RE: [313] Off topic about The Prodigy

2002-09-03 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
sounds like fun...even gardening is more fun then:-)

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mate that is a wicked video, those girls the whole thing was
typical Prodigy.

I have to say I am very lucky as Keith Flint's mum and Dad live at
the house at the back of mine, so I speak to his dad when I am in the garden
yep
you have guessed it gardening! a I see Liam Howlett most weeks in his Lotus
and his bright hair..

Their mates drink up me local and go to their houses driving their motor
bikes in Keith's back garden!!
nutters I tell ya thru and thru!

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didn´t he also do ´baby´s got a temper´ video?  that´s a weird but fantastic
video

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your a star thanks!

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Walter Stern I think. He did quite a few of theirs as well as a couple of
Massive Attck and Madonna singles

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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Otto

Cyclone wrote:

Most of the press stories on it have contextualised
electroclash so that people are reading about Drexciya, Model 500 and
Cybotron,

Sorry, but those are very few and far between. And *if* they are mentioned 
at all (I've never seen Drexciya or Model 500 mentioned, only Cybotron 
once, most of the time only Kraftwerk and/or Bambaataa get a nod), it's 
maybe as a quote from one of the artists that doesn't get followed up. You 
can count the journalists that wrote about electroca$h that are really 
knowledgable on one hand unfortunately.


etc, whereas they have been written out of the narratives on
electronica/trance/progressive, etc, and electroclash has an international
scope of influence and reference (Germany - Kraftwerk to DJ Hell), US
(Detroit, NY), UK (New Romantic groups)

Not to mention Italian disco, German wave music and the whole The Hague 
scene. Pretty soon the UK and US influences will be sanitized away as well 
and we'll all be kneeling at the altar of Hell.


Otto


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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Otto

Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons.
Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle

The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with 
relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two 
rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not 
happy with.


That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their 
own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now 
everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the 
people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all.


*That* is the real problem.

It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original 
electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there 
because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that 
sound is so passe, dahlin'...


Otto
PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when 
the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated 
into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when 
tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation 
getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance).
PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch 
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[313] Electro mix alert!

2002-09-03 Thread Gerald
I've got a bit of time on my hands these days (since officially joining
the ranks of the unemployed).

Anyways, just banged out a mix for a website called Prolectric.
Goto http:/www.prolectric.com to listen.

Here's the playlist:
Artist - Title (Label)
Psi Performer - Art Is A Division Of Pain [Shapes  Forms rmx] (K2 O)
Southern Outpost - Boogie Down Detroit [WDJK1 Radio Mix] (Southern
Outpost)
Arpanet - Illuminated Displays (Record Makers)
DJ Bone - The Funk (Metroplex)
The Advent - Another Planet (Kombination Research)
Rac - Quexos (Warp)
New Order - Everything's Gone Green [Advents Electric Green Mix]
(Internal)
Human League - All I Ever Wanted [Alter Ego rmx] (Klang Elektronik)
Eon - Phaze Test [String Phase] (Electron Industries)
GD Luxxe - New Definition [Pulsinger Bass Mix] (Interdimensional 
Transmission)
Remote - The Swarm (Underground Resistance)
Detroit Grand Pubahs - Plasticene Gene (Intuit Solar)
Little Computer People - Little Computer People [Karl Bartos Mix]
(PSI49NET)
Drexciya - Hydro Cubes (SVE-6)
A Number Of Names - Shari Vari [The Hacker  Vitalic rmx] (Gigolo)
Patrick Darkfarmer - One Fingered Funk (Voltmusik)
Adult - Hand to Phone (Clone)
My Robot Friend - The Fake [Zombie Nation rmx] (Dekathlon)

Enjoy!

G

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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread laura gavoor
Rant on Otto, you ain't lyin'.  IMO most of 'our scene' especially the music 
has become a mostly '2 hype' trend.


The beauty of that is, just when 'they' think they have it all figurred and 
neatly compartmentalized, something truly poetic or original will emerge to 
challenge.


The truly amazing stuff usually arises from the ashes of something else...

2 sense



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Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons.
Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle

The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with 
relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two 
rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not 
happy with.


That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their 
own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now 
everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the 
people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all.


*That* is the real problem.

It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original 
electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there 
because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that 
sound is so passe, dahlin'...


Otto
PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when 
the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated 
into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when 
tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation 
getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance).
PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch 
yesterday on the Lowlands-list already.



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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Gerald

Re: Electro argument

Check it: www.viewlexx.net

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RE: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Ploegmakers, Joost
Hi Otto,

yes you are right. But still they shouldn't blame it all on the wrong
people.
This scene is already too small to turn it into a I am more underground
than you contest.

IMHO they should just continue what they like doing best. And if in a few
months they are being dismissed as sooo passé then pity for those losers.

Joost

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 Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons.
 Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle

The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with 
relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two 
rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not 
happy with.

That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their 
own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now 
everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the 
people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all.

*That* is the real problem.

It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original 
electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there 
because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that 
sound is so passe, dahlin'...

Otto
PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when 
the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated 
into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when 
tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation 
getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance).
PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch 
yesterday on the Lowlands-list already.


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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread dave cronin
the global darkness mixes are still there:

http://www.globaldarkness.com/mix/mixes.htm


 Argghh! The mixes aren't there though, just the links.
 
 Actually, the sites seem to be working beyond the front pages. I was
 looking
 for the I-f mixes, which are still up at
 http://www.viewlexx.com/mixage.htm
 and there's stuff inside hotmix.nl still up, too.
 
 I noticed this yesterday. Annoying, as I was wanting to download a few
 of
 them mixes over at hotmix.
 
 
 
 
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[313] sun ra covers (was: RH distribution presents 3 new labels)

2002-09-03 Thread jurren baars
are these new tracks [sun ra dedication album], or previously released 
tracks? i've got a 12 by quasimoto [aka madlib] where he uses parts of 
'space is the place'. does sun ra get sampled a lot? or covered even?

just curious,

jurren

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well as a Sun Ra Dedication album with cover version of classic Sun Ra track 
by contemporary artists like Madlib, King Britt, Osunlade, Theo Parrish, 
Mocky, Les Gammas, Recloose, Francisco Mora, Kirk Degiorgio feat. Vanessa 
Freeman  Jimi Tenor. Plans for two more soul orientated albums by well 
known national and international artists are planned.






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Re: [313] another causality

2002-09-03 Thread Gerald
Doh!

Maybe i should read all the posts from a certain thread before making a
redundant post. 

Oh well, that's what happens when you don't check your mail regularily.

Just to add my .02cents...

As long as people are having fun and no one's getting hurt... why not. 
While some establish artists may despise the whole Electroclash trend.
I've personally encountered instances where people have heard about the
trend - Checked out the music, and as a result, have discovered the
music made by many established electro artists.

There's good and bad things to every story i suppose.

Cheers!

G

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[313] Balihu website

2002-09-03 Thread Minto George

Here it is: 

http://home.earthlink.net/~balihu/

check out the link to the dope Tee Scott interview
Danny did!

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[313] off topic - cubase VST help

2002-09-03 Thread john harvey
can anyone help me?

I've just upgraded from cubase on the atari st to cubase VST v.3.7 for my
pentiun 166.
I can't get any midi signal in or out - it shows an output bar but none of
my equipment is being sequenced, and there is no input whatsoever from my
controller keyboard. It's driving me crazy.
my souncard is only a soundblaster 16, but I won't be using it for audio
recording - just midi sequencing.
Is it because it's not an official version (no dongle)?
Sorry it's off subject but I'm desperate.
Please mail me.
john
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[313] brubaker

2002-09-03 Thread Matthew MacQueen
Who is responsible for the Brubaker tracks on Ifach, the usual suspects (Ford, 
et. al.?) ?  That track texas sun is great, and stringier and more detroit 
feeling than the typical clinical techno --but still good-- Ifach roster sound. 
 Gotta find this on one wax... ace.

cheers,
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FW: [313] Questions for Carl Craig?

2002-09-03 Thread Matthew MacQueen
  BTW, the reason for this feature is his new double mix CD forthcoming on
  React, 'The Workout', which no doubt listmembers Marsel, Otto and Fabrice
  will be well aware of as he's licensed tracks from all three of them.

 I know that he licensed a Duplex track, i.e. the Fabrice Lig remix of 
 'Meta', for it, but that was released on Clone, not on Keynote/Ground Zero 
 (I released the 'Autosave' EP). Maybe that's the source of the confusion?


OK I'm a week late to this thread, but has anyone seen or posted a final 
tracklist for this mix CD?  SOunds right up my alley, can't wait! 

React is still keeping an eye on the Detroit DJs then, eh?

Cheers,
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RE: [313] essential track id

2002-09-03 Thread Matthew MacQueen
 George Krantz - Din Daa Daa

an essential classic, as goofy as it is! Has been sampled by many.   I'll never 
forget when Rob Hood dropped this one during a set peak to a packed warehouse 
at the Metroplex 10th annivarsary party... that gigantic buildup. 

I was told there was a re-edit bootleg version of this track that was quantized 
to stay in time, much easier to mix... but I've never actually seen one.  
Anyone know more about it?

peace,
Matt

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RE: [313] ONE YEAR LATER

2002-09-03 Thread Matthew MacQueen
 Although it's not techno per se, what about Theo Parrish's Instant
 Insanity. Not only was it a response to the events, it was released not too
 long after. I think it was pretty limited in numbers though, and never made
 it as a proper Sound Signature release.

I just have a white label, I never saw a proper labeled copy, was there one?  
ALso AFAIK it was a benefit record and not-for-profit. 

 I still think that his usage of the passing fire truck horn as an element of
 the track made it all the more haunting.

and the quotes of just pure bewilderment of people at the time... and clips 
from people in news interviews.  trying to understand it, if that could even be 
possible...  it's pretty wild.

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Re: [313] essential track id

2002-09-03 Thread Matthew L. Thompson
That would happen to be the one on a white label by The Goodguys, would
it?  Din Daa Daa '91 I think it was called?  Not really sure if that was a
re-edit so much as it was a remix though

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 George Krantz - Din Daa Daa

an essential classic, as goofy as it is! Has been sampled by many.   I'll
never forget when Rob Hood dropped this one during a set peak to a packed
warehouse at the Metroplex 10th annivarsary party... that gigantic buildup.

I was told there was a re-edit bootleg version of this track that was
quantized to stay in time, much easier to mix... but I've never actually
seen one.  Anyone know more about it?

peace,
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[313] CD Japan coupon (OT)

2002-09-03 Thread Mxyzptlk

Hey.
I know requests for Japanese music suppliers was made on at least these two 
lists. Here's a coupon I just got from CD Japan which might shave a few 
cents off of a purchase :

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Hi. Thank you for being a valuable customer of CDJapan.
We would like to offer you a 500 yen coupon valid for ordering any
item available from CDJapan, including future releases.
It is our way of expressing our appreciation.
This coupon is valid until September 30th for an order with item
price subtotal of 3,000 yen or more.
To redeem your 500 yen coupon, add item(s) to shopping cart, and
proceed with checkout as usual, and enter the following code:
ZM148GUBI
Coupon is valid for only one order, and the Coupon button will
disappear once it is used, or after it expires on September 30th.
It can not be applied on orders placed previously even if it is
still active, but has not been shipped.
We look forward for your visit again to CDJapan soon.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp


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