(313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles posting to 313 Original Message Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up recentlyone of my sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. was not just Juan Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with great asset, but juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had some of his friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the future sound e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the tracks were made with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time when the tracks came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was not sure what to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban Tropics.the future sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit records , and it is very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the detroit techno museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some of the most important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was those 4 people who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in history.i thank juan for giving those guys the chance to show the world somethingit just too bad the rest of the world never knew who was really behind the music michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB 21st 2003we are having ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its happening at the ohm nightclub. if anyone has any questions or needs more info feel free to email me.should be a great night
Re: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
on 2/20/03 12:29 PM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. Not only can you make a distinction in the melody but the type of sounds being used. on 2/20/03 12:29 PM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music. I disagree early Detroit techno sounds like a fusion of Kraftwerk/ Euro dance with Chicago house. It wasn't revolutionary to Western music. It's music that came from the drum machine era, the drum machine and sequencer more or less influenced the techno sound. on 2/20/03 12:29 PM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another big aspect of techno (and early Chicago house/acid) and as such very often different from trance, is that techno tries to evolve, tries to bring something new, tries to bring something that has never been heard before, tries to trigger strong emotions in people by surprising them. Now for a time, snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and such were new and triggered these strong emotions in people and were part of real techno. Trance is much more oriented towards pleasing the audience, trying to bring something that people already like to hear, trying to produce sounds that the majority of the people perceive as beautiful, dreamy soundscapes. Techno has evolved on and moved to several newer levels. Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. Trance and progressive is basically an update to the 80's Euro dance/ Hi-NRG music although you do hear the influence of techno and house with the use of the TR-909. Take the vocals out of Erasure, the music Vince Clarke pioneered and you hear the similarities. on 2/20/03 12:29 PM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now of course it's all still music and not exact science, so there will be plenty of examples of techno with melodies and trance without, and good and revolutionary trance and bad boring techno. But generally speaking you can (I at least) see the broader distinctions. That's also why I don't want to stick to one genre and I really like certain trance records (although not recently ;-) )and dislike certain techno records. As the music evolved I evolved with it. I used to love the stuff from Misjah, later that of the Liberators, again later that of Adam Beyer, Gaetek, Marco Carola. But that's all in the past. When I listen to it at home, I still like the sound in a nostalgic kind of way. I would never play it out again though (or it should be some revival thing). Now, I'm more into deephouse, Detroit house and electro (as so many old F*cks like me), no idea if that will stay forever. this seems to be a common trend. I still enjoy the occasional hard banging techno track with innovative elements like Switched On Blades. Techno is like an outcast amongst the dance genres a lot of people fall back on 'house' or retro dance music like electro or Italo-disco conforming to trend and conventionalism because they lack vision when it comes to futuristic abstract music. on 2/20/03 12:29 PM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are these guys now? They're trance DJs. Basically there are two kinds of DJ's. The DJ that purely wants to please the audience and give them what they want to hear and what they like best. The DJ that has the clear need to be loved and the need to be popular. And the DJ who wants to bring the audience something new and surprising. Again, of course we are all a combination of these two profiles, but we are either on one side or the other. We all like to be on stage and get the cheers, but that is different from needing it. The first kind will not take any risks when playing and go with the flow of whichever is hot at the time. The second kind will explore the boundaries and set the new trends, but will never be as popular as the first kind. Trance DJ's tend to be more of the first kind, techno DJ's you'll find in both. Although there are enough trance dj's like Tiësto who genuinely love that music (whom I consider a good dj, although I totally gag on his taste in music) and who have not jumped on the bandwagon
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - snare rolls
Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. I see snare rolls as part of the corporeal dumbing down of dance music. Snare rolls are for those same people who needed the intricate rhythms of Jungle tamed and nailed down to a 2 step breakbeat. Cheap Wagnerian dynamics whose purpose is to act as great big neon sign to the dancefloor watch out there is something very exciting comming up! prepare to go wild Yes snare rolls work for those people. But there are much more sophisticated ways of achieving the same effect. The most effective are the tracks which have a kind of build or holding off (before something kicks in) which is hardly even noticable. Its like you hear it unconsiously. You hear it with the body only. This seems to be a quality more or less exclusive to techno. I'm thinking of something like the first track on Kevin Saunderson's Xmix or Derrick May's remix of Praise (Inner City). It takes a few listens to figure out what's going on. And even then I'm still not sure if I understand why these intros work as well as they do.
(313) Minimal Nation
My buddy just dropped hood's minimal nation on my tables 5 minutes ago. About 5 minutes ago you would have had to peel me off the wall. I've never heard it before. My heart rate is still up. jason6
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - snare rolls
-- Original Message -- From: Ian Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] But there are much more sophisticated ways of achieving the same effect. The most effective are the tracks which have a kind of build or holding off (before something kicks in) which is hardly even noticable. Its like you hear it unconsiously. You hear it with the body only. This seems to be a quality more or less exclusive to techno. I'm thinking of something like the first track on Kevin Saunderson's Xmix or Derrick May's remix of Praise (Inner City). the 4th wave's electroluv on planet e kills me. its gotta be one of the best 10 techno tunes ever. the way the strings and pads and cymbals build and release tension is just superb, totally flawless execution. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Minimal Nation
So then welcome to the circle of addicts :-) Also check out his Internal empire album on Tresor if you don't know it yet Cheers, Arne Jkenjar [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: My buddy just dropped hood's minimal nation on my tables 5 minutes ago. About 5 minutes ago you would have had to peel me off the wall. I've never heard it before. My heart rate is still up. jason6 -- °°° www.arneweinberg.de KEYNOTE Rec. (ex-Ground Zero Rec.) DOWN LOW MUSIC STARBABY Rec. NATIVE Rec. °°°
RE: (313) Disco Top Tens
Nope, I was best describe is as a 70's sci fi soundtrack meets The Sound Of Philladepia. Very good. Probly available on various compilation... Rav -Original Message- From: Cobert, Gwendal [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:03 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Disco Top Tens going through old posts... Here's ten that spring to mind. I don't know if I qualify as studious though :) Dexter Wansel Life On Mars Is it a Bowie cover ??? Gwendal
Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
Hi, ULR (Under Ground Level Recordings) was set up by a few of us at Great Asset. ULR was named because the studio was underground next door to Great Assets distribution for which i was the import buyer and label manager. Funnybecause i was dusting off my full collection of ULR records last night, i'll put them all up on discogs.com this weekend you might or might not be aware we (ULR) put out some really nice house 12's also Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: Dave Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:18:56 -0800 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles posting to 313 Original Message Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up recentlyone of my sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. was not just Juan Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with great asset, but juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had some of his friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the future sound e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the tracks were made with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time when the tracks came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was not sure what to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban Tropics.the future sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit records , and it is very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the detroit techno museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some of the most important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was those 4 people who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in history.i thank juan for giving those guys the chance to show the world somethingit just too bad the rest of the world never knew who was really behind the music michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB 21st 2003we are having ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its happening at the ohm nightclub. if anyone has any questions or needs more info feel free to email me.should be a great night
(313) Mike huckaby releases...Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
Can anyone recoment mike huckaby releases I don't have any (apart from the future sound ep) and I feel I am missing out Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles posting to 313 Original Message Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up recentlyone of my sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. was not just Juan Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with great asset, but juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had some of his friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the future sound e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the tracks were made with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time when the tracks came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was not sure what to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban Tropics.the future sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit records , and it is very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the detroit techno museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some of the most important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was those 4 people who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in history.i thank juan for giving those guys the chance to show the world somethingit just too bad the rest of the world never knew who was really behind the music michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB 21st 2003we are having ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its happening at the ohm nightclub. if anyone has any questions or needs more info feel free to email me.should be a great night
(313) planet e pressing
can anyone tell me where the PlanetE vinyl is pressed/mastered? i know one of the ibex releases was done at DM (http://dubplates-mastering.com/ , interesting faq on there) but looking on the runouts of other stuff i can't identify... any ideas? ta robin...
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
Not only can you make a distinction in the melody but the type of sounds being used. Disagree; trance borrows a lot of it's sounds from techno. I disagree early Detroit techno sounds like a fusion of Kraftwerk/ Euro dance with Chicago house. Could you name some examples? Of course I know Juan, Derrick and all were definately influenced by Kraftwerk, but I don't hear that so directly in their production. Ok maybe their sounds were used a lot, but definately not their way of composing. It wasn't revolutionary to Western music. It's music that came from the drum machine era, the drum machine and sequencer more or less influenced the techno sound. Disagree again, a lot of music was already using drum machines and sequencers for years. hi-nrg, new wave, italo, house. But all that music still consisted of songs. You know, chorus, refrain, chorus. Acid house and later techno were the first to break from that tradition. Trance and progressive is basically an update to the 80's Euro dance/ Hi-NRG music although you do hear the influence of techno and house with the use of the TR-909. Take the vocals out of Erasure, the music Vince Clarke pioneered and you hear the similarities. I think you're confusing trance with electroclash here. this seems to be a common trend. I still enjoy the occasional hard banging techno track with innovative elements like Switched On Blades. Techno is like an outcast amongst the dance genres a lot of people fall back on 'house' or retro dance music like electro or Italo-disco conforming to trend and conventionalism because they lack vision when it comes to futuristic abstract music. Or the techno records that are being released are simply not that revolutionary anymore so they start looking for other stuff that can trigger their needs. And they realise that because they were almost exclusively listening to techno over all those years, they neglected some great other types of music. So they simply want to catch up. In my case it doesn't have anything to do with the nostalgia trend. Regarding electro and house it's much more about (re)discovery. I still listen to a lot of hard techno. I just hardly buy anything form detroit anymore. German producers like Ricardo Villalobos, Heiko Laux or Alter ego are much more groundbreaking nowadays.
(313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk
(313) track id please
hi, at the sammy dee's mix at http://www.paxahau.com/archives.htm the track that starts in minute 31:30 with the male vocal, and the one that comes after him? thanx shlomi
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
so when did this list get this f**king catty? From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:21:45 + ...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk _ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
The month after they have an electro room with Anthony Rother playing live if that's any consolation. But it is a little disappointing to see yet another reasonably large techno night in London with the same old DJs month in month out. - Original Message - From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 21 February 2003 11:21 Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London ...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
so when did this list get this f**king catty? since last week's war :) erm nowt wrong with The Youngsters flavour of techno if you ask me robin... From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:21:45 + ...if you like that sort of techno 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg'
RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
and what is that kind of Techno? You know I am gettin fed up with some of the comments I see on the 313 aren't you the guy that stole Killabite of Ben Sims and yet now your hinting that if you like that sort of techno then.. get a grip man. -Original Message- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2003 11:22 To: seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London ...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03
Re: (313) new Christian Bloch album.
Agree completely, I think this should get a full CD release. Thank you Mr Bloch Anya Stang wrote: Guys, if you haven't yet listened to his Young American LP, available for download on http://thinnerism.com then do it now. He posted the link a couple of weeks back and I forgot all about it until today - thanks for reminding me Tristan. Very very beautiful tunes, and the album really gels. Thanks Christian. : ) Anya -- Mike
(313) Mixes by list members
Hey all, I'm thinking of compiling a cetralised reference point for mixes made by 313 list members. I don't know about anyone else but I'd find this really handy, I'm always on the lookout for new mixes to listen to and often find myself looking through old mails for posted mixes which I've missed. All I'm proposing is a set of links to the mixes (no hosting I'm afraid), this could be accomponied by link to page where mix is hosted, description (ie., 'techno' ;) ), playlist etc. If you have a mix (doesn't have to be strictly 313 sets), or if you have links to other peoples mixes then please email me directly links+info. Any ideas/input would be appreciated also, perhaps a section of links to other pages which host mixes (groovetech, betoni etc.) If I receive some stuff I'll post a link to the page next week sometime Thanks -- Mike
Re: (313) Mixes by list members
I'm thinking of compiling a cetralised reference point for mixes made by 313 list members. That would be good. Does anyone know of anyone that might be interested in hosting some mixes too? I have some that I'd love to post, but have nowhere to host them... _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
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Re: (313) new Christian Bloch album.
Michael Lees wrote on Fri, 21 Feb 2003 about following: Agree completely, I think this should get a full CD release. Thank you Mr Bloch i'll join in the chant; excellent music, especially for those late nite -sessions.. deep and moody. sakke -- - * remixes out now * - http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/music.html
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
that's more like my ting. Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Telegraph Group Limited Reply-To: Toby Frith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:30:02 - To: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED], seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London The month after they have an electro room with Anthony Rother playing live if that's any consolation. But it is a little disappointing to see yet another reasonably large techno night in London with the same old DJs month in month out. - Original Message - From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: 21 February 2003 11:21 Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London ...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk
(313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
I found out about it from fellow list member London clubbing legend Mike Tyrer. Hopefully he will be reading this now can give me further information to pass on. G.
RE: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
Like Jay Jay's Cosmic Wig? That's one of the housier ULRs that I managed to pick up - pretty nice stuff! | -Original Message- | From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 21 February 2003 10:24 | To: Dave Bate; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] | | | Hi, | ULR (Under Ground Level Recordings) was set up by a few of us at Great | Asset. | ULR was named because the studio was underground next door to | Great Assets | distribution for which i was the import buyer and label manager. | | Funnybecause i was dusting off my full collection of ULR | records last | night, i'll put them all up on discogs.com this weekend | | you might or might not be aware we (ULR) put out some really | nice house 12's | also | | Rob Jarvis. | | Victoria Music Ltd. | Unit 215 old gramaphone works | 326 Kensal Road | London | W10 5BZ | + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice | + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax | | http://www.victoria-music.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) | | pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + | housedust + nepenta + | u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique | + hypercubic + | radio sonic + neon + feedback | | From: Dave Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:18:56 -0800 | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] | | Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles | posting to 313 | | Original Message | Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? | Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 | From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up | recentlyone of my | sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. | was not just Juan | Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with | great asset, but | juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the | upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had | some of his | friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the | future sound | e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay | Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the | tracks were made | with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time | when the tracks | came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was | not sure what | to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban | Tropics.the future | | sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit | records , and it is | very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the | detroit techno | museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some | of the most | important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was | those 4 people | who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in | history.i thank juan | for giving those guys the chance to show the world | somethingit just | too bad the rest of the world | never knew who was really behind the music | | | | | michael mitchell | www.renegaderhythms.com | | | | p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB | 21st 2003we | are having | ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its | happening at the ohm | nightclub. if | anyone | has any questions or needs more info feel free to email | me.should be | a great night | | | | |
RE: (313) Minimal Nation
I always saw the next level up from Minimal Nation as being Hood's Spectral Nomad EP on Metroplex, so if you liked Minimal Nation but haven't heard Spectral Nomad, you should definitely pick it up... Explain The Style is an almost religious experience! | -Original Message- | From: Arne Weinberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 21 February 2003 07:41 | To: 313 Mailing List | Subject: Re: (313) Minimal Nation | | | So then welcome to the circle of addicts :-) | Also check out his Internal empire album on Tresor if you | don't know it yet | | Cheers, Arne
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
didn't realise that was your cup of tea.. did i offended you? appologies. Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:31:40 - To: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED], seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London and what is that kind of Techno? You know I am gettin fed up with some of the comments I see on the 313 aren't you the guy that stole Killabite of Ben Sims and yet now your hinting that if you like that sort of techno then.. get a grip man. -Original Message- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2003 11:22 To: seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03
RE: (313) Minimal Nation
I always saw the next level up from Minimal Nation as being Hood's Spectral Nomad EP on Metroplex, so if you liked Minimal Nation but haven't heard Spectral Nomad, you should definitely pick it up... Explain The Style is an almost religious experience! the similar detroit:one circle on the flip aint to shabby either... one of my faves robin...
Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
Great... there was also a The Subjects Vs. JEFF MILLS ...quite rare these days. the first release on ULR was by MR MONDAY Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: Brendan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:06:24 - To: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] Like Jay Jay's Cosmic Wig? That's one of the housier ULRs that I managed to pick up - pretty nice stuff! | -Original Message- | From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 21 February 2003 10:24 | To: Dave Bate; 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] | | | Hi, | ULR (Under Ground Level Recordings) was set up by a few of us at Great | Asset. | ULR was named because the studio was underground next door to | Great Assets | distribution for which i was the import buyer and label manager. | | Funnybecause i was dusting off my full collection of ULR | records last | night, i'll put them all up on discogs.com this weekend | | you might or might not be aware we (ULR) put out some really | nice house 12's | also | | Rob Jarvis. | | Victoria Music Ltd. | Unit 215 old gramaphone works | 326 Kensal Road | London | W10 5BZ | + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice | + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax | | http://www.victoria-music.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) | | pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + | housedust + nepenta + | u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique | + hypercubic + | radio sonic + neon + feedback | | From: Dave Bate [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:18:56 -0800 | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???] | | Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles | posting to 313 | | Original Message | Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? | Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 | From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up | recentlyone of my | sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. | was not just Juan | Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with | great asset, but | juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the | upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had | some of his | friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the | future sound | e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay | Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the | tracks were made | with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time | when the tracks | came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was | not sure what | to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban | Tropics.the future | | sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit | records , and it is | very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the | detroit techno | museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some | of the most | important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was | those 4 people | who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in | history.i thank juan | for giving those guys the chance to show the world | somethingit just | too bad the rest of the world | never knew who was really behind the music | | | | | michael mitchell | www.renegaderhythms.com | | | | p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB | 21st 2003we | are having | ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its | happening at the ohm | nightclub. if | anyone | has any questions or needs more info feel free to email | me.should be | a great night | | | | |
RE: (313) Minimal Nation
Yep - to my mind minimal nation and the vision ep ARE techno. I found hearing them for the first time similar to hearing tubby or scratch dubs for the first time - s spatial, really opens up your head. :-Original Message- :From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:18 PM :To: Brendan Nelson :Cc: 313 Mailing List :Subject: RE: (313) Minimal Nation : : : I always saw the next level up from Minimal Nation as being Hood's : Spectral Nomad EP on Metroplex, so if you liked Minimal Nation but : haven't heard Spectral Nomad, you should definitely pick it up... : Explain The Style is an almost religious experience! : :the similar detroit:one circle on the flip aint to shabby either... : :one of my faves : :robin...
RE: (313) new Christian Bloch album.
Beautiful album! I have been listening to it a lot while studying this last week. Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex -Original Message- From: Anya Stang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. februar 2003 0:17 To: 313 Subject: (313) new Christian Bloch album. Guys, if you haven't yet listened to his Young American LP, available for download on http://thinnerism.com then do it now. He posted the link a couple of weeks back and I forgot all about it until today - thanks for reminding me Tristan. Very very beautiful tunes, and the album really gels. Thanks Christian. : ) Anya
RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
all techno is my cup of tea and know you didn't offend you just let your opinion know and so did I. I love all techno not just one part of it so I guess I am lucky that I have no rules to what I listen too. -Original Message- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2003 12:13 To: ian cheshire; seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London didn't realise that was your cup of tea.. did i offended you? appologies. Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:31:40 - To: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED], seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London and what is that kind of Techno? You know I am gettin fed up with some of the comments I see on the 313 aren't you the guy that stole Killabite of Ben Sims and yet now your hinting that if you like that sort of techno then.. get a grip man. -Original Message- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2003 11:22 To: seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03
(313) test
why doesnt it work...
(313) Re: [313] New Techno Night - London
Well said Ian. Having an argument is all very well and fine but less of the cattiness, as someone said earlier, would indeed be a major improvement. Thanks all. Re this new night in London, find some info straight from the horse's mouth, plus a discussion, here http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3727 Onwardsupwards : ) Anya From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri 21/Feb/2003 13:08 GMT To: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED], seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London all techno is my cup of tea and know you didn't offend you just let your opinion know and so did I. I love all techno not just one part of it so I guess I am lucky that I have no rules to what I listen too. __ Freeserve AnyTime - Go online whenever you want for just £6.99 a month for your first 3 months, that's HALF PRICE! And then it's just £13.99 a month after that. For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890
(313) re: planet e pressing
From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] can anyone tell me where the PlanetE vinyl is pressed/mastered? i know one of the ibex releases was done at DM (http://dubplates-mastering.com/ , interesting faq on there) but looking on the runouts of other stuff i can't identify... any ideas? I do know that Planet E vinyl is pressed at Archer Record Pressing in Detroit. don't know where it's mastered but I gotta give some props to the fine people (Lauren Kevin) at Scratch Free in Toronto. If you want EU quality pressing at a more than fair price, try them out! http://www.scratchfree.com minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING 2003: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX Polarius Jams from the funk dump dL009 Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 The Connection Machine Painless dLCMLP1 dL party w/ANTHONY SHAKIR MARCH 8th, 2003 DALLAS, TX USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
(313) Dennis Desantis
Enjoying the mix you posted a while back (Berlin Radio), and was wondering if you could provide a tracklist? cheers
Re: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
on 2/21/03 4:53 AM, Ploegmakers, Joost at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only can you make a distinction in the melody but the type of sounds being used. Disagree; trance borrows a lot of it's sounds from techno. I understand what your trying to say but trance uses chessier fluf type sounds. I disagree early Detroit techno sounds like a fusion of Kraftwerk/ Euro dance with Chicago house. Could you name some examples? The Chicago house influence is in ALL if the old Detroit techno records. As far as Euro Dance listen to No UFO's (Juan Atkins tries to sound new wave), Nude Photo (Yazoo sample), and Techno Music. Of course I know Juan, Derrick and all were definately influenced by Kraftwerk, but I don't hear that so directly in their production. Ok maybe their sounds were used a lot, but definately not their way of composing. All of Juan Atkins pre-techno stuff sounds like Kraftwerk, the spoken word vox, the way he programs beats and synthesizers. Channel One - Technicolor for example. It wasn't revolutionary to Western music. It's music that came from the drum machine era, the drum machine and sequencer more or less influenced the techno sound. Disagree again, a lot of music was already using drum machines and sequencers for years. hi-nrg, new wave, italo, house. But all that music still consisted of songs. You know, chorus, refrain, chorus. Acid house and later techno were the first to break from that tradition. Don't be absurd, classical electronic artist like Mortan Subotnik were the first to break this tradition. I agree, The old Chicago/ Detroit sound was revolutionary but I wouldn't call it anti western they were essentially drum machine rhythm tracks. 1, 5, 9, 13 on a TR-808 16 step sequence, put the closed hi-hat on 1-16. Was Derrick May an avant guarde music composer who sat back in his chair conceptualizing an ant-western composition style of music then going to Juan Atkins TR-808 to program the beats? No, he was influenced by Juan Atkins and Chicago house, the mechanical nature of those drum machines pretty much influenced techno, it was only natural they had a futuristic approach with electronic sounding gear which like electro sounded mechanical in nature. Trance and progressive is basically an update to the 80's Euro dance/ Hi-NRG music although you do hear the influence of techno and house with the use of the TR-909. Take the vocals out of Erasure, the music Vince Clarke pioneered and you hear the similarities. I think you're confusing trance with electroclash here. Well yeah I mean electroclash tries to sound like the Eurythmics but listen to the apeggio style on old HINRG records by Patrick Crawly and people like Vince Clarke who have been doing that style for over 30 years. Of course trance has house and techno sensibilities but in my opinion the roots are essentially gay club HINRG music. Or the techno records that are being released are simply not that revolutionary anymore so they start looking for other stuff that can trigger their needs. And they realise that because they were almost exclusively listening to techno over all those years, they neglected some great other types of music. So they simply want to catch up. In my case it doesn't have anything to do with the nostalgia trend. Regarding electro and house it's much more about (re)discovery. I still listen to a lot of hard techno. I just hardly buy anything form detroit anymore. German producers like Ricardo Villalobos, Heiko Laux or Alter ego are much more groundbreaking nowadays. To me it all comes down to a formula that works, if you want to promote broken beat as the new techno sound that's great but if it's irritating undanceable music that you cant groove to it's worthless. My constructive opinion advice is since there are a lot of good ideas in old Detroit techno set up a label dedicated to the sound. I would be running to the record store to buy an old gated reverb 808 track like My Medusa or better version of Techno Music, there a lot of great ideas in old techno all you have to do is refine the production style, when I listen to that old music I think to myself certain aspects of the production and composition could be better. Strings Of Life is a perfect 10 track, but there are other track by Derrick May that could be better.
Re: (313) Minimal Nation
Rob Hood needs to put out more of those type of records. Absolutely brilliant. on 2/20/03 10:53 PM, Jkenjar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My buddy just dropped hood's minimal nation on my tables 5 minutes ago. About 5 minutes ago you would have had to peel me off the wall. I've never heard it before. My heart rate is still up. jason6
(313) re: planet e pressing
sleepy guy wrote: I do know that Planet E vinyl is pressed at Archer Record Pressing in Detroit. don't know where it's mastered but I gotta give some props to the fine people (Lauren Kevin) at Scratch Free in Toronto. If you want EU quality pressing at a more than fair price, try them out! http://www.scratchfree.com sorry it's http://www.scratchfree.ca guess I need a cup of joe this morning TGIF - minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING 2003: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX Polarius Jams from the funk dump dL009 Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 The Connection Machine Painless dLCMLP1 dL party w/ANTHONY SHAKIR MARCH 8th, 2003 DALLAS, TX USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
RE: (313) re: planet e pressing
That is of course www.scratchfree.ca ;) Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings -Original Message- From: Minto George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:50 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: planet e pressing If you want EU quality pressing at a more than fair price, try them out! http://www.scratchfree.com
(313) ULR / drexciya
Funny thing the only record I have on ULR is called 'subwoofer agte' and has stomping hardcore mixes by dj edge etc.. by the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of 'journey home' ep by drexciya? It's the only record thats been on top of my wants list for so long.. I would be prepared to offer a swap out of my 700+ collection or an agreeable sum of money cheers, Tom. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.
Re: (313) ULR / drexciya
wasn't Drexciya 5 - The Journey Home on Warp also? check discogsit's always your friend. Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: Tom Serna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 01:43:00 +1100 (EST) To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) ULR / drexciya Funny thing the only record I have on ULR is called 'subwoofer agte' and has stomping hardcore mixes by dj edge etc.. by the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of 'journey home' ep by drexciya? It's the only record thats been on top of my wants list for so long.. I would be prepared to offer a swap out of my 700+ collection or an agreeable sum of money cheers, Tom. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Mobile - Exchange IMs with Messenger friends on your Telstra or Vodafone mobile phone.
RE: (313) ULR / drexciya
| -Original Message- | From: Tom Serna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: 21 February 2003 14:43 | | by the way, does anyone know where I can get a copy of | 'journey home' ep by drexciya? It's the only record | thats been on top of my wants list for so long.. I know the feeling... I was desperate for that record for years, and managed to find it in a second-hand record shop about six months ago for £5. Black Sea is just ridiculous... Brendan
Re: (313) planet e pressing
DM doesn't press any records they only do master cuts (the lacquers) and dupplates of course - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:50 AM Subject: (313) planet e pressing can anyone tell me where the PlanetE vinyl is pressed/mastered? i know one of the ibex releases was done at DM (http://dubplates-mastering.com/ , interesting faq on there) but looking on the runouts of other stuff i can't identify... any ideas? ta robin...
(313) forcefield
for those inquering.. Dan, 'the superb server man' told me there were some DNS problems, but which should be fixed and dome all by at last on monday.. - some like that. as it seems reachable from some computers, and doesn't from others http://www.forcefield.org thanks for all the support over the years! and have a good weekend
Re: (313) Minimal Nation
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arne Weinberg) Also check out his Internal empire album on Tresor if you don't know it yet thats my favorite. the core and minus kill me, theyre just so stark and cold and beautiful. tom andythepooh.com
(313) speedyj : sweatboxer
(cross posted) SWEATBOXER - Press Release April 29, 2003: Queensnight. The night before the Dutch Queens' birthday, and one of the most happening nights in Holland. Queensnight always has been a great excuse for a party, but this year promises to be legendary. It will see the launch of SWEATBOXER. SWEATBOXER is a club experience contrived by Jochem Paap aka Speedy J and the origin of how this came to be is quite remarkable. To make this clear, it's probably better to let the man himself speak: PAST: After playing live over all over the world for 15 years, I assume I've probably played under almost every kind of circumstances From playing bubbling acid in murky loft parties on a 5 Watt karaoke speaker, to playing banging techno for hours on huge dance events and festivals with 100 rollercoasters, 40 stages and 512 DJs. In most cases, these circumstances are far from ideal and it's impossible to say upfront if the event you will be playing at will be good or bad. Elements like sound, venue, lights and line-up are all an important part of how a show will be experienced by the audience. Over the years I've worked with sound engineers, light engineers, VJs etc., in order to get some grip on these conditions. But there are always things you cannot control, ranging from a really bad P.A. , being dropped on the wrong stage at the wrong time or all of a sudden there's a guy in front of you doing his thing with balloons or torches while you're performing. But if the circumstances are right, everything (and everybody) comes together. On a moment like that, everybody has the same experience. The music is surprising and inspiring to both audience and artists. Even the slightest twist of the EQs will be noticed by the audience. In such an environment, an artist is confident enough to experiment and take risks and the event can evolve into a very special experience. PRESENT: Last year, during a period of heavy touring, the idea of taking matters in my own hand started to develop. With the experience and contacts I acquired over the course of the years, I wanted to try to put on my own event according to my own ideas and views. A club night, without trimmings and with special attention to the things that matter: inspiring music, great venue and the most important item: a no- compromise sound system. The perfect conditions for audience as well as artists. Together with an experienced promoter (Mojo) I started looking for these conditions. Now we believe we've found them. Together they are SWEATBOXER. FUTURE: And this is what we've come up with. Inspiring music: a killer line up! Details below. Venue: Las Palmas- Rotterdam. A perfect mix between a club and a warehouse. NO-COMPROMISE SOUND SYSTEM!: The goal was to create a new standard in sound. I wanted to work with people who have the same passion for quality sound as I do. People who know that an ultimate sound system is essential for experiencing music. After a lot of research, I bumped into Funktion-One. This sound system is designed by 2 legendary people in the world of audio: Tony Andrews and John Newsham. Besides Funktion-one, Andrews and Newsham designed and developed Turbosound. Newsham also has an enormous experience as sound engineer for A.O., Pink Floyd, and is currently working as an engineer for artists like Underworld and Massive Attack. They will fly over from the UK to set up the best sound system ever to be heard in a club in Holland. Jochem Paap 15-02- 2003 --- SWEATBOXER 29 April, 2003 LAS PALMAS - ROTTERDAM LINE UP: will be announced on 24-02-2003 Tickets: 23 Euro + pre sale fee. Pre Sale: from 22-02-2003 Tickets via Internet (with credit card): http://www.ticketservice.nl For more info: WWW.SPEEDYJ.COM + / -- http://www.speedyj.com + \
(313) Track id requested
Hello, can someone please id the track that comes in at 16:43 in the Merrick Brown @ Into Deep 01.23.03? the vocals go bout ready to jack several times and then about to jack - alright -alright - lets jack. I have already asked about this track here - but it isn't Chip E time to jack thanks fab
RE: (313) Track id requested
Osborne / DMX Krew Bout' Ready to Jak / Won't Forget 12 Spectral Sound SPC-4 www.ghostly.com -Original Message- From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:07 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Track id requested Hello, can someone please id the track that comes in at 16:43 in the Merrick Brown @ Into Deep 01.23.03? the vocals go bout ready to jack several times and then about to jack - alright -alright - lets jack. I have already asked about this track here - but it isn't Chip E time to jack thanks fab
Re: (313) Mike huckaby releases...Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.PTRUE HISTORY???]
try some of his stuff on harmany park (deep transportation) or the M3 label out of record time...he also has a very nice techno track on the FEROX adventures of techno soul volume 1 hope that helps michael www.renegaderhythms.com Placid wrote: Can anyone recoment mike huckaby releases I don't have any (apart from the future sound ep) and I feel I am missing out Forwarding this for Mike, since he's having some troubles posting to 313 Original Message Subject: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY??? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:33:49 -0700 From: MM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, its kinda funny this thread was brought up recentlyone of my sources in detroit told me that the ULR future sound e.p. was not just Juan Atkinsi was told that juan had the record deal with great asset, but juan wanted to get more people from detroit involved with all of the upcoming talent around at that time (89-92)so he had some of his friends go to the studio with him. the tracks on the future sound e.p on ULR contain material created by Mike Huckaby , Shake , Jay Denham , Marty Bondsremixed with juan...most of the tracks were made with mike huckaby's R-8 and other gear..at the time when the tracks came out Mike Huckaby had not put a record out , and was not sure what to name his track so Shake helped him name the track Urban Tropics.the future sound e.p is definatly is one of my favorite detroit records , and it is very sought afterthere should be a copy showing up soon in the detroit techno museum soonjuan is a great producer and has made some of the most important detroit techno records ever RESPECT but it was those 4 people who made the ULR future sound e.p. go down in history.i thank juan for giving those guys the chance to show the world somethingit just too bad the rest of the world never knew who was really behind the music michael mitchell www.renegaderhythms.com p.s. If anyone happens to be in PORTLAND OREGON on FEB 21st 2003we are having ECTOMORPH live along with TRAXX from chicago. its happening at the ohm nightclub. if anyone has any questions or needs more info feel free to email me.should be a great night
Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.P TRUE HISTORY???]
i could tell you if i had the record in front of me but i am at worki will try to find out mike huckaby did the urban tropics track i believe if i remember right i believe marty bonds did the first track on the ULR side.. shake did the second track on the info side.sorry just can't remember right now ...i will look when i get home michael www.renegaderhythms.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, So, can you tell me exactly who did which tracks? Thanks, Andrew *** This email is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, you are in notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person: to do so could be a breach of confidence. Thank you for your co-operation. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of The RTL Group or its associated companies. Please contact our IT Helpdesk on +44 (0)20 7691 6996 or e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you require further assistance. ***
(313) Madrid record shops
I'm off to Madrid in a couple off weeks and was hoping to take in a little record shopping in between tapas, cervezas and siestas. Can anyone recommend any good vinyl shops out there. I know that there is an FNAC store but not sure if this sells records ?? Any help would be appreciated. Chris.
Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London
its kinda funny someone speaks there mind and everyone gets there panties in a bunchi think the key word here is RESPECT.rob is intitled to his opinions and so is everyone elsenot everyone see's everything the same wayso who cares if comments are madeif you don't like it don't reply..i am tired of the 313 police ..sorry but this just makes me laugh ian cheshire wrote: aren't you the guy that stole Killabite of Ben Sims and yet now your hinting that if you like that sort of techno i will be thinking of all of you tonight when ectomorph is playing live and TRAXX following.mm dirty electro michael www.renegaderhythms.com ian cheshire wrote: and what is that kind of Techno? You know I am gettin fed up with some of the comments I see on the 313 aren't you the guy that stole Killabite of Ben Sims and yet now your hinting that if you like that sort of techno then.. get a grip man. -Original Message- From: Rob Jarvis. Victoria Music Ltd. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February 2003 11:22 To: seth redmond; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London ...if you like that sort of techno Rob Jarvis Victoria Music Ltd. Unit 215 old gramaphone works 326 Kensal Road London W10 5BZ + 44 (0)20 7565 8193 voice + 44 (0)20 8960 3834 fax http://www.victoria-music.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MSN messenger) pro-jex + killa bite + inform + subvoice + room tone + housedust + nepenta + u7 + kne' deep + rodeo meat + response audio + sounds unique + hypercubic + radio sonic + neon + feedback From: seth redmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:20:07 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) re: [313] New Techno Night - London now that does sound good... where'd you hear about it (any more info? how big is it? how much?) -s Here's another one ... 19 April - The Youngsters, Jel Ford guest at Billy Nasty's new night - The Beat Club at new 800 peeps venue in Kings X called 'The Egg' _ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03
Re: (313) Mike huckaby releases...Re: (313) [Fwd: ULR FUTURE SOUND E.PTRUE HISTORY???]
...he also has a very nice techno track on the FEROX adventures of techno soul volume 1 hope that helps Last time I talked to Mike he was talking about re-releasing that track from Adventures in Techno Soul. I actually got him a copy of it so he could do so - the one he had wasn't mastered. jeff
(313) Tonight in Detroit - No Cover
//*** //* Friday 2.21.2003 :: 10PM-2AM 313 vs 412 *// ***// Shawn Rudiman (LIVE) Techno :: [Technoir Audio] Pittsburgh, PA Jwan Allen Techno :: [Technoir Audio] Pittsburgh, PA Ani Deep House and Techno :: [Lofthouse] Detroit, MI Greg Mudge Minimal Techno and House :: [GM] Detroit, MI Matthew Mangold Minimal Techno and House :: [Threeonethree] Detroit, MI 701 W. Forest at Anthony Wayne Drive (Third Street) $FREE, ya cheap Bastard! mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
RE: (313) Madrid record shops
They're pretty much all on the same street. Disc-Order and Jaxx are the best two. Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com http://mp3.com/bloch http://www.mp313.com/christianblochmp313.htm Tresor/LL/Ungleich/AudioRiot/Restructured/Deep Night Essentials/Simple Muzik/Funque Droppings -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:39 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Madrid record shops I'm off to Madrid in a couple off weeks and was hoping to take in a little record shopping in between tapas, cervezas and siestas. Can anyone recommend any good vinyl shops out there. I know that there is an FNAC store but not sure if this sells records ?? Any help would be appreciated. Chris.
Re: (313) Tonight in Detroit - No Cover
whats this venue like? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: (313) Tonight in Detroit - No Cover //*** //* Friday 2.21.2003 :: 10PM-2AM 313 vs 412 *// ***// Shawn Rudiman (LIVE) Techno :: [Technoir Audio] Pittsburgh, PA Jwan Allen Techno :: [Technoir Audio] Pittsburgh, PA Ani Deep House and Techno :: [Lofthouse] Detroit, MI Greg Mudge Minimal Techno and House :: [GM] Detroit, MI Matthew Mangold Minimal Techno and House :: [Threeonethree] Detroit, MI 701 W. Forest at Anthony Wayne Drive (Third Street) $FREE, ya cheap Bastard! mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
(313) playlist WNUR Chicago - 14 February 2003
Clinically Inclined 14 February 2003 - Techno, be my Valentine 11pm - 12:30am CST live stream www.wnur.org during showtime / 89.3 FM in Chicago 11pm - 12:30am Dr. Siska vladislav delay - huone (chain reaction) yagya - snowflake 3 - rhythm of snow (force inc) dettinger - a2 - oasis (kompakt) boards of canada - twoism - twoism (warp/music70) herbert - this time - around the house (phonography) a.j. hunter - kungpow - pressure point ep (parotic) theo parrish - lights down low (this one mix) (sound signature) planetary - cydonia - planetary ep (metamorphic) interwaves - b2 god of the machine - fog of the unknown (plink plonk) slam - dark forces - headstates (soma) aural emote - a5 - the first expression (symbolism) jeff mills - growth (axis) connective zone - palm palm (broom hill rmx) (uxb) jark prongo - spadet (pssst) basic channel - q1.1 (basic channel) heiko laux - a1 - souldancer (kurbel) planetary assault systems - sleeping sin seamless - planetary funk vol 3 (peacefrog) peace
Re: (313) re: planet e pressing
I thought Scratch Free was only a mastering house On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 12:50 AM, Minto George wrote: From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] can anyone tell me where the PlanetE vinyl is pressed/mastered? i know one of the ibex releases was done at DM (http://dubplates-mastering.com/ , interesting faq on there) but looking on the runouts of other stuff i can't identify... any ideas? I do know that Planet E vinyl is pressed at Archer Record Pressing in Detroit. don't know where it's mastered but I gotta give some props to the fine people (Lauren Kevin) at Scratch Free in Toronto. If you want EU quality pressing at a more than fair price, try them out! http://www.scratchfree.com minto = down low music http://downlowmusic.org UPCOMING 2003: dL ltd tribute 12 dLpgccX Polarius Jams from the funk dump dL009 Dan Curtin distort.archive.desire dL010 The Connection Machine Painless dLCMLP1 dL party w/ANTHONY SHAKIR MARCH 8th, 2003 DALLAS, TX USA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Southern Outpost - Sydney. Distribution: Twilight 76, Detroit http://www.southernoutpost.com Infiltrating your sound systems. --
Re: (313) Track id requested
what's the url? tracks with the word 'jack' in it are the best tracks of all. james From: Fabrizio Nahum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:06:37 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Track id requested Hello, can someone please id the track that comes in at 16:43 in the Merrick Brown @ Into Deep 01.23.03? the vocals go bout ready to jack several times and then about to jack - alright -alright - lets jack. I have already asked about this track here - but it isn't Chip E time to jack thanks fab
