(313) ie 2003.08.03 (debut), etc2 2003.08.04, events
[update] ie this Sunday night 2003.08.03su 22:00 CST 1hour hosted by m50 tune in to http://www.netmusique.com/ - jazzmusique co-broadcasting with 89.3fm locally, http://www.wnur.org/live.ram etc2 this Monday morning 2003.08.04mo 05:00 CST 150minutes hosted by m50 tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram La La Land this Monday night 2003.08.04mo 21:30 CST 90minutes m50 v nickd electro set tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram this Monday night Concur presents: 2003.08.04mo 22:00 m50 (WNUR-FM, Meiotic) Proswell (live PA - Monotonik recordings, Merck recordings, Inpuj recordings) Ray_rod (Hefty records) @ Danny's 1951 W Dickens Chicago IL 21+ 0$ Improvlotto this Wednesday 2003.08.06we 21:00 featuring live improvisation / collaborative performance by: Philip Von Zweck Christopher Sorg J Cookson m50 @ Buddy Gallery 1542 N Milwaukee, 2nd Floor Chicago, IL 0+ 0$ ie this Thursday afternoon 2003.08.07th 14:00 CST 1hour hosted by m50 tune in to http://www.netmusique.com/ - jazzmusique etc this Friday night 2003.08.09sa 01:00 3hours hosted by m50 featuring: Todd Sines (Residual, Background, Planet E) Archetype (live PA - Black Nation, Theory, Sonic Mind, 21/22 Corporation, Ongaku, Speaker Attack, 77, Inkubator Akustik) tune in to 89.3 fm or http://www.wnur.org/live.ram now followed weekly by Perfect_Dark with Synctank of Purist illmeasures presents: Flow this Saturday 2003.08.09sa 22:00-03:00: hosted by Striz DJ Reed featuring: Todd Sines (Residual, Background, Planet E) Archetype (live PA - Black Nation, Theory, Sonic Mind, 21/22 Corporation, Ongaku, Speaker Attack, 77, Inkubator Akustik) m50 @ Lava Lounge 859 N Damen Chicago, IL 21+ 0$ [upcoming] ie (netmusique/jazzmusique) 2003.08.10su 22:00CST 1hour etc2 (wnur) 2003.08.11mo 05:00CST 150minutes ie (netmusique/jazzmusique) 2003.08.14th 14:00CST 1hour etc (wnur) 2003.08.16sa 01:00CST 3hours: TRS-80 (live PA - Invisible, Intikrec), Proswell (live PA - Inpuj, Merck) ie (netmusique/jazzmusique) 2003.08.17su 22:00CST 1hour [playlists] Steve Tang, nickd : etc : 2003.Aug.02 00:30 3hours : WNUR-FM (audible archive available at http://m50.net/) Steve Tang (http://www.emphasisrecordings.com/)... (artist) : (track title) : (label) Melody Boy 2000 : Monotone Fantastique : Dum Baby Ford : One For Sorrow : Background DJ K1 : U Will Dance : D1 Recordings Jack Lagoon : S.F. : Velocet Spacetime Continuum : Kairo (Carl Craig Remix) : Reflective FLUX : Bug In My Head : Klang Electronic Jark Prongo : Bad Beat : N/A Telex : Raised By Snakes (Shake Remix) : SSR Nitzer Ebb : Join In The Chant : Geffen FBK : Knobs Switches : Frictional The Theory Of Machines : Tomthumb : Steel City JayDee : Plastic Dreams : RS Rino Cerrone : Intense Flood : Rilis Steven Tang : For The Trip : Emphasis Recordings (unreleased) DIY : Hothead EP : WARP Paul Mac : Paradox (Reshape EP) : Bio Records Mark Broom : Three : Coda Advent Rx : Everything's Gone Green : Internal Aubrey : Break Out : Dark Denard Henry : Lost, Lonely Lethal : Cipher Aubrey : [untitled] : Dark nickd (http://dj.nickd.org/)... (artist) : (track title) : (release) : (label) Arovane : Minth : Minth : City Centre Offices David Hausdorf : Lumochod : Tiefenrausch : Lifetime Dash Dude : So Clicken : Casual Friday : Morris Audio Joachim Spieth : B : Ich : Kompakt Hakan Lidbo : Powderhead : Noise Obscurities : Moody Formidable Force : Mind Games : 2020 vision DJ Sneak : I Dropped My Glowstick - Sneak's Glowing Mix : I Dropped My Glowstick : Magnetic Paul Davidson : Vinyl Roads : Tango Rac : High Wire : Diversions : WARP Frankie Bones : a2 : ...and Here's Another Human Distraction : Remains Tricky Disco : Tricky Disco : Tricky Disco : WARP 808state : Sync/Swim : Newbuild : Rephlex DJ Dan : Put That Record Back On - H-Foundation Mix : Put That Record Back On, Part 1 : Honchos 808state : Flow Coma : Newbuild : Rephlex 808state : Flow coma - Aphex Twin's Squidged Out In The Bank Mix : [white label] Blue Noise : Numbray : Creative Music Flash Brothers : Captured - Joshua Collins Rmx : Hooj Choons Tone Depth : Rumble Fish - Original Mix : Bedrock Omni Trio : Higher Ground : Even Angels cast Shadows : Moving Shadow Thomas Fehlmann : Luftikus : Whistle : Kompakt Radiohead : [untitled] : Kid A : Capitol The Microphones : [a2] : The Singing From Mt. Eerie : K The Microphones : Moon Moon : Moon Moon : k The New Seekers : Little Bit Of Sunshine : Coca Cola m50 : DJ OP's Show : 2003.Jul.29 23:00 90minutes : WNUR-FM (audible archive available at http://m50.net/) Invexis : Love It - Rmx by Diego : Love It : Pornostarmusic Danilo Vigorito : Shockwave : Windmill EP : Speaker Attack Invexis : Love It : Love It : Pornostarmusic Conceiled Project : [untitled] : Second Coming : Code Red Adam Beyer : Recoded : Recoded : Planet Rhythm Johan Bacto Hardcell : [untitled] : Traveller : Devil's Choice Adam Beyer Marco Carola : [untitled] : [untitled] : Drumcode DJ Preach : Performance Means Faster : Performance
Re: (313) UR operatives network
Has anyone paid for this baby yet? I'm interested in what the service is like - it's an interesting idea... md 3/8/03 7:21 PM jurren [EMAIL PROTECTED] dunno if this has been posted yet [i'm on digest] they've added new info on http://www.ur-039.net/ this is what you'll get after signing up, for $36 a year: Audio samples of UR pre-releases, Z-Records (for UR Assault DJ's only), SID's, WPA's etc... Large format and high quality video files of UR in action Unpublished photo archives UR-ON BBS UR-ON members only merchandise Limited guest passes for certain UR events and more... sounds a bit like that planet e subscription you could get a couple years ago. and a nice way for a label to get some sort of financial security. and $36 isn't even that much money [that is; f you've got a job...] jURren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: (313) local booty tune!
Hehe just having a listen now - pretty amusing :D The vocals sound kinda 'raw' ish [Im don't have a huge idea about production so not really sure how to describe this - I guess kindof unprocessed/not cleaned up or something !?] Other than that its quality - good to here some folk starting to bang out some new booty - seems to have been a bit of drought of releases recently in that department :/ Nice to hear its maintained the miami-style comedy element in the rap too :) Ta, marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:36 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: (313) local booty tune! heres the link : http://www.angelfire.com/oz/gs/b00ty_bass.mp3 i havent actually listened to it so its hopefully not too shameful! ab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) European 313ers
Bizarre is Jan Driver not a trance DJ or something ? [or maybe Im talking utter pap ?] Peace, marc -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) European 313ers Sorry for the post or blag :) Anyway I know its a while off but on the 13th Sept @ Metronom Club, Berlin, Germany Claude Young Jan Driver Kube72 Taurus Set times are: Jan Driver 10-12am Taurus 12-2am Claude Young 2-4 or 5am Kube72 4 or 5-7 Thanks/Danke Ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) UR operatives network
hmm, half of me wants to sign up for this, the other half says don't be daft. Audio samples of UR pre-releases, Z-Records (for UR Assault DJ's only), SID's, WPA's etc... Large format and high quality video files of UR in action Unpublished photo archives UR-ON BBS UR-ON members only merchandise Limited guest passes for certain UR events and more... so, does anyone know what 'z-records' are? or wpa's? or sid's? are they records? would we have to pay extra to get them - $36 doesn't sound that much if you include shipping etc to EU. its only the records I would be interested in I suppose. can't see what use a video is? anyone know anymore? oh, and while we're at it, has anyone heard the 'aquanauts' thing yet? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables
Whatever nextdecks on a waterbed [70's style] ? :D Peace, Marc -Original Message- From: ::P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 8:16 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables dieselboy has turntables in his house that are on a platform hung from the ceiling. saw a pic somewhere in a livejournal showing the setup. looked cool enough I suppose. not a dieselboy fan, but his housesure looks nice :) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables I just played a gig last night that had a DJ table suspended from the ceiling - I've seen these before but never played on one set up this way. Rather odd and it took a while to get used to - never did feel 100% comfortable with it, as when I would back-cue the record it would send the whole platform swinging back and forth. I can see how this suspension system is great for protecting the turntables from bass rumbling and energetic DJs dancing around but I felt like I was riding a ship on the high seas all night. (also the thing was set low around hip-level on me so my back cramped up but that's beside the point) anyone else play have experience playing on a hanging DJ table? I'd like to know how you've coped with it as I wouldn't mind playing at this venue again since the crowd was up for hearing fast music as one patron asked. heh-heh. :D MEK -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) Re: UR operatives network
As far as I can see the $36 only gives you access to soundbites, it doesnt mean they are gonna start sending out Z tracks left right and centre! Hmm, thats what I thought. Thanks Stewart. I guess by the time you've paid out for records and shipping etc, could well be getting a little out of my reach... oh well. It's a good idea I guess though eh? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Re: UR operatives network
As far as I can see the $36 only gives you access to soundbites, it doesnt mean they are gonna start sending out Z tracks left right and centre! Hmm, thats what I thought. Thanks Stewart. I guess by the time you've paid out for records and shipping etc, could well be getting a little out of my reach... oh well. It's a good idea I guess though eh? i feel the catch might be that you don't even get access to these things even by mail orderthey're usually shop stuff only... it'd be great if i was wrong. robin...
Re: (313) Re: UR operatives network
i feel the catch might be that you don't even get access to these things even by mail orderthey're usually shop stuff only... it'd be great if i was wrong. I think maybe the $36 does give you access to buy the stuff? maybe? maybe we've lived in Manchester too long, where everybody is trying to scam a few quid out of you - it breeds a suspicious mind. I guess its a decent deal really (if you're really intent on getting this stuff) its also a clever scheme, because by the time you've spent the $36, you'd definitely want to make use of it, and therefore buy some more records. Still, its for a good cause eh? Submerge seem to help people where they can I'd say? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Re: UR operatives network
i feel the catch might be that you don't even get access to these things even by mail orderthey're usually shop stuff only... it'd be great if i was wrong. I think maybe the $36 does give you access to buy the stuff? maybe? maybe we've lived in Manchester too long, where everybody is trying to scam a few quid out of you - it breeds a suspicious mind. heh, you make a good point. :) I guess its a decent deal really (if you're really intent on getting this stuff) its also a clever scheme, because by the time you've spent the $36, you'd definitely want to make use of it, and therefore buy some more records. Still, its for a good cause eh? Submerge seem to help people where they can I'd say? well i'd go for it if it was a bit clearer what you get... i should email them... robin...
Re: (313) Re: UR operatives network
The Dust Boys have just subscribed so I'll let you know what the service is like :) md 4/8/03 9:45 AM robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] i feel the catch might be that you don't even get access to these things even by mail orderthey're usually shop stuff only... it'd be great if i was wrong. I think maybe the $36 does give you access to buy the stuff? maybe? maybe we've lived in Manchester too long, where everybody is trying to scam a few quid out of you - it breeds a suspicious mind. heh, you make a good point. :) I guess its a decent deal really (if you're really intent on getting this stuff) its also a clever scheme, because by the time you've spent the $36, you'd definitely want to make use of it, and therefore buy some more records. Still, its for a good cause eh? Submerge seem to help people where they can I'd say? well i'd go for it if it was a bit clearer what you get... i should email them... robin...
(313) italo
I was thinking. The origins of techno are pretty well documented right? and we see, from what we read hear, where some of the sounds/ideas/structures come from. e.g. 'No UFO's', or 'Sharevari', or 'Clear' all had electronic music come out before them, from which you can deduce that certain ideas or whatever were taken from. (P-Funk/Kraftwerk/Italo/Chicago/Disco) But, I was thinking - what came before Italo Disco? where on earth did some of those producers get some of their ideas from? It was early days, synths and drum boxes were just coming on to the market, and were barely affordable, but the prices were coming down. Anyone know anything about this? I picked up a copy of that Vangelis Bladerunner thing on the car boot sale yesterday, and its fairly clear that the Italo 'Hypnosis' versions were covers/dancefloor remakes of this. So, did the italo guys remake alot of stuff does anyone know? Did alot of their ideas come form electronic classical/experimental stuff? supposedly also Italy's 'cosmo' scene was pretty wild, someone said to me they were doing/playing loads of wild stuff before Mr Hardy picked it up. round about '79/'80/'81 onwards anyone know any more, or any info on the net anywhere? I'd be interested to know. ta! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) italo
yeah i'd agree with that - lots of the early italo stuff had its origins in background music...simonetti was behind some of the goblin,tenebre series as well as a b-grade movie called college from 81(?) which was also a big chi-town dancefloor bomb...of course moroder did alot of work for film also..maurizio dami (alexander robotnick) also wrote some production/mood/library music (used as background music in ads/movies etc) for the italian Primrose label in the 80s.. rc on 4/8/03 9:31 PM, Cobert, Gwendal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say Blade runner was the thing to say - didn't the use of synths and the like by Italians originate with them using them for cheap OSTs, I'm thinking Goblin here, esp lots of cheap porno, horror and sci fi flicks ? quite a number of comps out there, maybe also try to get your hands on a Goblin best of... Gwendal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) italo I was thinking. The origins of techno are pretty well documented right? and we see, from what we read hear, where some of the sounds/ideas/structures come from. e.g. 'No UFO's', or 'Sharevari', or 'Clear' all had electronic music come out before them, from which you can deduce that certain ideas or whatever were taken from. (P-Funk/Kraftwerk/Italo/Chicago/Disco) But, I was thinking - what came before Italo Disco? where on earth did some of those producers get some of their ideas from? It was early days, synths and drum boxes were just coming on to the market, and were barely affordable, but the prices were coming down. Anyone know anything about this? I picked up a copy of that Vangelis Bladerunner thing on the car boot sale yesterday, and its fairly clear that the Italo 'Hypnosis' versions were covers/dancefloor remakes of this. So, did the italo guys remake alot of stuff does anyone know? Did alot of their ideas come form electronic classical/experimental stuff? supposedly also Italy's 'cosmo' scene was pretty wild, someone said to me they were doing/playing loads of wild stuff before Mr Hardy picked it up. round about '79/'80/'81 onwards anyone know any more, or any info on the net anywhere? I'd be interested to know. ta! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) UR operatives network
speaking to UR, it seems that the UR operatives network will give you access to some of the more exclusive releases (plans, in time, to have operative only releases etc) ...just in case anyone wanted to know... robin...
Re: (313) UR operatives network
At 13:44 4-8-2003, you wrote: speaking to UR, it seems that the UR operatives network will give you access to some of the more exclusive releases (plans, in time, to have operative only releases etc) ...just in case anyone wanted to know... K... no need to sign up then at this moment :-/ R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
(313) Red Planet Website launched...
check: http://www.lbh6251876.com Nice a new 12 is also coming up, no audiofiles yet... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
Re: (313) origins of Italo Disco
http://snurl.com/1yom http://snurl.com/1yoo - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:15:29 +0100 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) italo I was thinking. The origins of techno are pretty well documented right? and we see, from what we read hear, where some of the sounds/ideas/structures come from. e.g. 'No UFO's', or 'Sharevari', or 'Clear' all had electronic music come out before them, from which you can deduce that certain ideas or whatever were taken from. (P-Funk/Kraftwerk/Italo/Chicago/Disco) But, I was thinking - what came before Italo Disco? where on earth did some of those producers get some of their ideas from? It was early days, synths and drum boxes were just coming on to the market, and were barely affordable, but the prices were coming down. Anyone know anything about this? I picked up a copy of that Vangelis Bladerunner thing on the car boot sale yesterday, and its fairly clear that the Italo 'Hypnosis' versions were covers/dancefloor remakes of this. So, did the italo guys remake alot of stuff does anyone know? Did alot of their ideas come form electronic classical/experimental stuff? supposedly also Italy's 'cosmo' scene was pretty wild, someone said to me they were doing/playing loads of wild stuff before Mr Hardy picked it up. round about '79/'80/'81 onwards anyone know any more, or any info on the net anywhere? I'd be interested to know. ta! Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers
RE: (313) UR operatives network
Does membership entitle you to a free scan7 ninja mask/bandana for conducting covert blackop manouvers in you local HMV ? :D Peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
(313) red planet
check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) red planet
Alex, It's a reference to the Battle of Little Big Horn June 25th 1876 Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) red planet
aha. see, you learn something new everyday here..! can you tell I'm bored today?? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) red planet
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Gary Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 4 augustus 2003 16:55 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: (313) red planet Alex, It's a reference to the Battle of Little Big Horn June 25th 1876 Yup, it is a date that refers to a battle where the US Cavalry tried to slaughter a sh*tload of Sioux and Cheyenne Indians but it turned for all the good of the Sioux and Cheyenne Indians and the cavalry got defeated by them. I think that this was one of the big big victories against the US Cavalry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of (performing)
LOL! I was trying t figure out why the format was so familiar - they even use the term pucks. Maybe they can do something with a Fussball table or table-tennis... MEK Phonopsia [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] sia.co.uk cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Audiopad - meet the future of (performing) 08/02/03 01:09 AM If they only had the foresight to add two goals, perforated air vents, a couple of paddles and a bunch of spastic energy, we might be in business. :) I think it's cool b/c it's a step in the right direction. But for me air hockey is still air hockey and a laptop is still a laptop. The stoned brainstorming session at the student union that conjured this must've been wicked though! ;) Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) red planet
t6hanks for the post!! :) nice to see they are on the web, its in the favourites as they say :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 15:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03
RE: (313) Red Planet Website launched...
ahh its was you kj :) nice post man!! thanks -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 15:25 To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: (313) Red Planet Website launched... check: http://www.lbh6251876.com Nice a new 12 is also coming up, no audiofiles yet... [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03
RE: (313) red planet
The mystery continues ... rp-11 'Revenge Of The Wolf' was peculiar. Very basic groove with two breakdowns which didn't resume on the beat, thereby fuffing up the mx - 'Revenge...' indeed ... k -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) red planet t6hanks for the post!! :) nice to see they are on the web, its in the favourites as they say :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 15:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03
(313) Maestro
starring: Derrick May, Francois K, Larry Levan, etc. Has anyone seen this film? I just found out about its existence. IMDB only lists a UK release date. Has this ever been seen in the US? -- Matthew Kane - Driver Developer - Atlantek, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Maestro
At 17:25 4-8-2003, Matt Kane's Brain wrote: starring: Derrick May, Francois K, Larry Levan, etc. Has anyone seen this film? I just found out about its existence. IMDB only lists a UK release date. Has this ever been seen in the US? The opening is on sept. 3rd in Zurich/Switserland. http://www.maestro-documentary.com/ R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) Maestro
starring: Derrick May, Francois K, Larry Levan, etc. Has anyone seen this film? I just found out about its existence. IMDB only lists a UK release date. Has this ever been seen in the US? I thought it had been released in the us? I might be wrong... Its an independant project, they showed it in London a while back. I think it was 2 nights only. I'm sure they did the same in New York. It's due for a screening in Manchester in Sept/Oct at the cornerhouse. Can't wait! But, get this - here's the scoop. Apparently, there's loads of old footage on there. But when the dvd comes out, theres loads and loads of bits that they couldn't put in the film, but are included as extras on the dvd. Apparently there isn't much music box footage in the actual film, its all on the dvd. I think the film concentrates on Paradise Garage/Loft/Warehouse, and possibly Better Days. woo-hoo! gonna be fun watching that in the cinema with that big sound system.. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) European 313ers
yeah, sort of - he tends to straddle the line between techno and trance in most of his productions. Never heard him DJ. I suppose that's why they have him on early, to draw in a wide variety of people and then have Claude Young at prime time. Who is Taurus and Kube72? Kube72 sounds familiar - did he/she/they record for Rs sometime back? MEK Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 'ian cheshire' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org .comcc: Subject: RE: (313) European 313ers 08/04/03 03:27 AM Bizarre is Jan Driver not a trance DJ or something ? [or maybe Im talking utter pap ?] Peace, marc -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) European 313ers Sorry for the post or blag :) Anyway I know its a while off but on the 13th Sept @ Metronom Club, Berlin, Germany Claude Young Jan Driver Kube72 Taurus Set times are: Jan Driver 10-12am Taurus 12-2am Claude Young 2-4 or 5am Kube72 4 or 5-7 Thanks/Danke Ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) European 313ers
ha ha Hans strkes a goo un there!!! ... I wish I looked that good though :) I'd get free drinks all the time !! ha ha -Original Message- From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 17:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Langsman, Marc; 313@hyperreal.org; 'ian cheshire' Subject: Re: (313) European 313ers Kube72 sounds familiar - did he/she/they record for Rs sometime back? Isn't that that topless DJ? ;) Cheers, Hans Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 'ian cheshire' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org .comcc: Subject: RE: (313) European 313ers 08/04/03 03:27 AM Bizarre is Jan Driver not a trance DJ or something ? [or maybe Im talking utter pap ?] Peace, marc -Original Message- From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) European 313ers Sorry for the post or blag :) Anyway I know its a while off but on the 13th Sept @ Metronom Club, Berlin, Germany Claude Young Jan Driver Kube72 Taurus Set times are: Jan Driver 10-12am Taurus 12-2am Claude Young 2-4 or 5am Kube72 4 or 5-7 Thanks/Danke Ian --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- --- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- Hans Veneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://technotourist.org --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03
RE: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables
You better have well sealed wiring and extension power cords otherwise - t*! like a toaster in the bathtub. MEK Langsman, Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 'Roland van Oorschot' [EMAIL PROTECTED] .comcc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables 08/04/03 07:05 AM *wow* they look keeraazeee !! Has anyone tried these yet or are they very new / bring prototyped or something ? ...wonder if you could float your decks in a pool with them :) Peace, Marc -Original Message- From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:40 AM To: Langsman, Marc Cc: '::P'; 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) slightly OT - suspended DJ tables At 10:54 4-8-2003, Langsman, Marc wrote: Whatever nextdecks on a waterbed [70's style] ? :D Well... almost! Inflatable cusions! :D http://www.freefloat.net/ Used @ the Dance Valley festival this weekend. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
Re: (313) red planet
well - the last number 1876 - 1876 -- America celebrates its Centennial: 100 years as a Republic, 100 years in pursuit of the promise of the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal But more interesting is that on June 25th 1876 - General George Armstrong Custer was justifiably killed by the Nations of Cheyenne and Dakota after years and years of oppression and murder. That would be the more likely source for that number in the url 6251876 - as in June 6th 1876. interesting to see the two different markers of the same time period side-by-side - one celebrating equality - the other a reaction to not being treated equally Red Planet = America lbh is Little Big Horn - where Custer got what was coming to him. MEK But more [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 09:47 AMSubject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) red planet
Whoops - seems my lunch hour hunger got to me there That would be the more likely source for that number in the url 6251876 - as in June 6th 1876. that should be June 25th as others had noted. MEK Michael.Elliot-Knight @fallon.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 313@hyperreal.org 08/04/03 11:47 AMSubject: Re: (313) red planet well - the last number 1876 - 1876 -- America celebrates its Centennial: 100 years as a Republic, 100 years in pursuit of the promise of the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal But more interesting is that on June 25th 1876 - General George Armstrong Custer was justifiably killed by the Nations of Cheyenne and Dakota after years and years of oppression and murder. That would be the more likely source for that number in the url 6251876 - as in June 6th 1876. interesting to see the two different markers of the same time period side-by-side - one celebrating equality - the other a reaction to not being treated equally Red Planet = America lbh is Little Big Horn - where Custer got what was coming to him. MEK But more [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 09:47 AMSubject: (313) red planet check: http://www.lbh6251876.com hmm, that website address is a bit obscure. I presume it has other meaning. anyone know? also, talking of soundclips, did anyone get that delsin mailout this morning that has those clips of a new delsin 12? artist 'unknown'. sounds well tasty to me. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Re: ## nomorewords.net - summer 2003
On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 13:15 Europe/Amsterdam, nomorewords.net wrote: [ 154 - Strike ] [ NWAQ Recordings, 27dsr/nwa-cdlp1, November ] Joint album release from the Amsterdam NWAQ and Delsin labels, of what is already often mentioned as the very best techno album to come from The Netherlands. So a well kept secret, from one of the Newworldaquarium-members, circulating in Dutch techno underground on tapes and other media since it's original production in 1994/1995. It will now finally find it's way out of the underground. Preview soon. Whoohaa! I really hope that this is the same tape that was circulating amongst Eevolute artists when 154 was still Ross 154 and when he recorded for Eevolute because if it is, these words above are so true, it will be the bomb then!
(313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? KJ On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
|-Original Message- |From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where |the comparison ends i think? | maybe if you're tone-deaf :) in two distinct places, the melody is, note-by-note, an excact copy. that being said, Knights of the Jaguar is obviously a much better track, with much better strings. Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I think most musicologists would argue the opposite Ken - those string lines aren't generic, because they are recognizable parts of another song - the 80s track - and they do not depend on context for distinctiveness - because you can recognize those strings when they are used in another song (Knights of the Jaguar) and ID them as being used in a source song (the 80s track - what is the title of it by the way?). If this wasn't the case I could lift the bassline from Michael Jackson's Billy Jean and get away with it AND nobody would know where the bassline is from. Which I highly doubt. Just like you can ID the pump up the volume vocal as being used in M/A/R/R/S and sourced from Eric B. Rakim To me it sounds like he cleaned up the sample plus gave it a tempo adjustment or played it note for note (but it's so close it sounds like a sample) - it's quite obvious a lift from that tune. And we were all able to ID right away - nobody has said - gee that sounds like the strings used in Strings of Life - no we all said Knights of the Jaguar so it's not generic at all. It's a prosecuting copyright lawyer's wish come true The legal test is whether a sample is recognizable. It is not true that you are allowed to use up to 4 bars or 10 seconds or any part of another song. MEK Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 01:08 PMSubject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
not to mention that part of it sounds REALLY close to the bassline in no UFOs (at least I think thats the track) - Original Message - From: ian cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Christian Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '313 list' 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I agree totally :) -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2003 19:03 To: '313 list' Subject: RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? |-Original Message- |From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where |the comparison ends i think? | maybe if you're tone-deaf :) in two distinct places, the melody is, note-by-note, an excact copy. that being said, Knights of the Jaguar is obviously a much better track, with much better strings. Christian Bloch http://christianbloch.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 30/07/03
Re: (313) Re: ## nomorewords.net - summer 2003
- Original Message - From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 List 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: (313) Re: ## nomorewords.net - summer 2003 On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 13:15 Europe/Amsterdam, nomorewords.net wrote: [ 154 - Strike ] [ NWAQ Recordings, 27dsr/nwa-cdlp1, November ] Joint album release from the Amsterdam NWAQ and Delsin labels, of what is already often mentioned as the very best techno album to come from The Netherlands. So a well kept secret, from one of the Newworldaquarium-members, circulating in Dutch techno underground on tapes and other media since it's original production in 1994/1995. It will now finally find it's way out of the underground. Preview soon. Whoohaa! I really hope that this is the same tape that was circulating amongst Eevolute artists when 154 was still Ross 154 and when he recorded for Eevolute because if it is, these words above are so true, it will be the bomb then! It is absolutely the bomb. They played it on Nortroute in its entirety a couple of years ago, and it was seriously fantastic. Had no idea it was that old though! New Pallas too. NWAQ tearin' it up. w00t! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Ha, I bet Sony and BMG would have loved to have tried to pull this one out the bag when they were wrangling with UR! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I think most musicologists would argue the opposite Ken - those string lines aren't generic, because they are recognizable parts of another song - the 80s track - and they do not depend on context for distinctiveness - because you can recognize those strings when they are used in another song (Knights of the Jaguar) and ID them as being used in a source song (the 80s track - what is the title of it by the way?). If this wasn't the case I could lift the bassline from Michael Jackson's Billy Jean and get away with it AND nobody would know where the bassline is from. Which I highly doubt. Just like you can ID the pump up the volume vocal as being used in M/A/R/R/S and sourced from Eric B. Rakim To me it sounds like he cleaned up the sample plus gave it a tempo adjustment or played it note for note (but it's so close it sounds like a sample) - it's quite obvious a lift from that tune. And we were all able to ID right away - nobody has said - gee that sounds like the strings used in Strings of Life - no we all said Knights of the Jaguar so it's not generic at all. It's a prosecuting copyright lawyer's wish come true The legal test is whether a sample is recognizable. It is not true that you are allowed to use up to 4 bars or 10 seconds or any part of another song. MEK Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 01:08 PMSubject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar __ Join Freeserve http://www.freeserve.com/time/ Winner of the 2003 Internet Service Providers' Association awards for Best Unmetered ISP and Best Consumer Application.
Re: (313) UR operatives network
does anyone know if the z-records are coming out on vinyl or audio clips. i know Rolando plays one of those Z tracks on his 1st mix cd. From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR operatives network Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:57:29 + Has anyone paid for this baby yet? I'm interested in what the service is like - it's an interesting idea... md 3/8/03 7:21 PM jurren [EMAIL PROTECTED] dunno if this has been posted yet [i'm on digest] they've added new info on http://www.ur-039.net/ this is what you'll get after signing up, for $36 a year: Audio samples of UR pre-releases, Z-Records (for UR Assault DJ's only), SID's, WPA's etc... Large format and high quality video files of UR in action Unpublished photo archives UR-ON BBS UR-ON members only merchandise Limited guest passes for certain UR events and more... sounds a bit like that planet e subscription you could get a couple years ago. and a nice way for a label to get some sort of financial security. and $36 isn't even that much money [that is; f you've got a job...] jURren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
- Original Message - From: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar Sounds like it's the same synth patch with some melodic inspiration. Cool to hear it! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) UR operatives network
the general impression is that you get to hear the z tracks, not buy them. - Original Message - From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:55 AM Subject: Re: (313) UR operatives network does anyone know if the z-records are coming out on vinyl or audio clips. i know Rolando plays one of those Z tracks on his 1st mix cd. From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED],313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) UR operatives network Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:57:29 + Has anyone paid for this baby yet? I'm interested in what the service is like - it's an interesting idea... md 3/8/03 7:21 PM jurren [EMAIL PROTECTED] dunno if this has been posted yet [i'm on digest] they've added new info on http://www.ur-039.net/ this is what you'll get after signing up, for $36 a year: Audio samples of UR pre-releases, Z-Records (for UR Assault DJ's only), SID's, WPA's etc... Large format and high quality video files of UR in action Unpublished photo archives UR-ON BBS UR-ON members only merchandise Limited guest passes for certain UR events and more... sounds a bit like that planet e subscription you could get a couple years ago. and a nice way for a label to get some sort of financial security. and $36 isn't even that much money [that is; f you've got a job...] jURren _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Re: (313) UR operatives network
At 20:55 4-8-2003, you wrote: does anyone know if the z-records are coming out on vinyl or audio clips. i know Rolando plays one of those Z tracks on his 1st mix cd. Z Records are already out on vinyl but only available to UR Assault DJ's . I guess we'll (the ppl who signed up, that is) have to do it with those sound clips and the Rolando mix-cd's. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never realized it until i heard them played bak to back and i had to agree that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Do the strings appear by themselves in the original house tune? _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:37:28 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think most musicologists would argue the opposite Ken - those string lines aren't generic, because they are recognizable parts of another song - the 80s track - and they do not depend on context for distinctiveness - because you can recognize those strings when they are used in another song (Knights of the Jaguar) and ID them as being used in a source song (the 80s track - what is the title of it by the way?). If this wasn't the case I could lift the bassline from Michael Jackson's Billy Jean and get away with it AND nobody would know where the bassline is from. Which I highly doubt. Just like you can ID the pump up the volume vocal as being used in M/A/R/R/S and sourced from Eric B. Rakim To me it sounds like he cleaned up the sample plus gave it a tempo adjustment or played it note for note (but it's so close it sounds like a sample) - it's quite obvious a lift from that tune. And we were all able to ID right away - nobody has said - gee that sounds like the strings used in Strings of Life - no we all said Knights of the Jaguar so it's not generic at all. It's a prosecuting copyright lawyer's wish come true The legal test is whether a sample is recognizable. It is not true that you are allowed to use up to 4 bars or 10 seconds or any part of another song. MEK Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 01:08 PMSubject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra accompaniment over and under to fatten up the sound). Or, it was reperformed by Rolando using the same keyboard practically note for note - would be too many coincidences to be a coincidence if you know what I mean. TCoy probably wouldn't do anything about it because of the use of Eric B. Rakim, in the Carino track, would cost a lot more to licence and TCoy would most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and not bothering with taking any action against Rolando if UR didn't clear it. This is all a moot point if Rolando/UR cleared it all with the owners of Carino. Whether that be the performance and the publishing (if it was a sample) or just the publishing (if Rolando re-performed the section used). Either way, both tunes are cool and I do hope that UR has got their bases covered on this. MEK Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] .nl cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? 08/04/03 01:13 PM On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never realized it until i heard them played bak to back and i had to agree that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
(313) DBX
Oh, BTW - Dan Bell was devastating on Saturday. Many a head was lost. Can't really recommend him any higher after this set. Hope he makes it through your town soon! Tristan === Text/Mixes/Pics: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
I suppose someone should tell Mike Pickering (latterly of M People) - he produced it. In fact, f*ck that, he owes the world of music more than enough! Ha ha. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org; Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra accompaniment over and under to fatten up the sound). Or, it was reperformed by Rolando using the same keyboard practically note for note - would be too many coincidences to be a coincidence if you know what I mean. TCoy probably wouldn't do anything about it because of the use of Eric B. Rakim, in the Carino track, would cost a lot more to licence and TCoy would most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and not bothering with taking any action against Rolando if UR didn't clear it. This is all a moot point if Rolando/UR cleared it all with the owners of Carino. Whether that be the performance and the publishing (if it was a sample) or just the publishing (if Rolando re-performed the section used). Either way, both tunes are cool and I do hope that UR has got their bases covered on this. MEK Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] .nl cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? 08/04/03 01:13 PM On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never realized it until i heard them played bak to back and i had to agree that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 4 Aug 2003 about following: most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and it's mike pickering if my memory serves right. (better known also as part of m-people) sakke -- Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect. http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
KJ wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but I think that it's more a coincidence, I once got accused by someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never realized it until I heard them played back to back and I had to agree that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) More Fun With Wholescale Lifted Samples: Play Joy Division's As You Said (unnamed instrumental track on the Joy Division flexi alongside Komakino and Incubation). Then play Steely Dan's Rikki Don't Lose That Number. Then play Meat Beat Manifesto's Hello Teenage America. :-) (No, I don't know what this has to do with 313, either ... sorry, I'll shut up now.) - Greg
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
The Billyjean bassline is from Billy Oceans Carribean Queen BTW :^) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? I think most musicologists would argue the opposite Ken - those string lines aren't generic, because they are recognizable parts of another song - the 80s track - and they do not depend on context for distinctiveness - because you can recognize those strings when they are used in another song (Knights of the Jaguar) and ID them as being used in a source song (the 80s track - what is the title of it by the way?). If this wasn't the case I could lift the bassline from Michael Jackson's Billy Jean and get away with it AND nobody would know where the bassline is from. Which I highly doubt. Just like you can ID the pump up the volume vocal as being used in M/A/R/R/S and sourced from Eric B. Rakim To me it sounds like he cleaned up the sample plus gave it a tempo adjustment or played it note for note (but it's so close it sounds like a sample) - it's quite obvious a lift from that tune. And we were all able to ID right away - nobody has said - gee that sounds like the strings used in Strings of Life - no we all said Knights of the Jaguar so it's not generic at all. It's a prosecuting copyright lawyer's wish come true The legal test is whether a sample is recognizable. It is not true that you are allowed to use up to 4 bars or 10 seconds or any part of another song. MEK Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org cc: 08/04/03 01:08 PMSubject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar You know after listening to this twice I think they're similar in sound and some but not so much so that one was a note by note copy, no way. And perhaps not even an influence... I mean IMHO a person could have absolutely written Jaguar without ever hearing this.. call me crazy. peace Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4. avgust 2003 23:08 To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: 313 list; Kent williams Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra accompaniment over and under to fatten up the sound). Or, it was reperformed by Rolando using the same keyboard practically note for note - would be too many coincidences to be a coincidence if you know what I mean. Well from listening to this strings for a couple of times, I can tell that at the beginning they start the same as jaguar but than it gets different really quickly. Than at another point there's another part that sounds the same as jaguar strings for a bit longer but than gets different again. So Rolando probably did get inspiration from this track, but even if he did he changed the strings quite allot beyond those couple starting notes, so he deffinitely didn't sampel them. Also that note waver is quite generic and I've heard it, or really simialar, used in many different melodies (I think I've also heard it in a couple of old movie soundtracks). Jernej www.soundoflj.com/octex
(313) Tour De France Soundtracks
Has anyone picked this up yet?
Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
Yes, I have a promo on my desk. Haven't played it yet. Report later in the day. ;) -- From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 8:42 AM Has anyone picked this up yet?
Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks
Woah that was quick!! I think it's excellent, you'll definitely like it!! - Original Message - From: Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks Yes, I have a promo on my desk. Haven't played it yet. Report later in the day. ;) -- From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Tour De France Soundtracks Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 8:42 AM Has anyone picked this up yet?
Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record?
Hi, If it's not a sample there shouldn't be any problem. It's not possible to copyright just a fragment of a melody really, as far as I have ever heard. The essential question would have to be raised, does that string line encompass the essence of both songs, or if the additional parts in each song make them essentially two different compositions. After all, no one has ever claimed a jazz musician has to get copyright clearance when they quote a fragment of a popular song in the middle of their solo. That is arguably fair use, but I've never heard of a court case over this issue. By the way, in classical music the concept of theme and variations is based precisely on writing a new composition over someone's melody, and there are many other examples of borrowing melodies too (check Mahler's first symphony or Ives!). So I think history would support an argument of fair use of a melody in a new compositions, as long as the new composition is not a derivative work, which would be protected by copyright law. Of course, who knows what you could get a judge to buy who had little understanding of music. _Dave -- Original Message - Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:08:14 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. This more than sounds a lot like it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra accompaniment over and under to fatten up the sound). Or, it was reperformed by Rolando using the same keyboard practically note for note - would be too many coincidences to be a coincidence if you know what I mean. TCoy probably wouldn't do anything about it because of the use of Eric B. Rakim, in the Carino track, would cost a lot more to licence and TCoy would most likely get sued in turn if Eric B Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and not bothering with taking any action against Rolando if UR didn't clear it. This is all a moot point if Rolando/UR cleared it all with the owners of Carino. Whether that be the performance and the publishing (if it was a sample) or just the publishing (if Rolando re-performed the section used). Either way, both tunes are cool and I do hope that UR has got their bases covered on this. MEK Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] .nl cc: 313 list 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Jaguar Strings on 80s House record? 08/04/03 01:13 PM On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of the strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never realized it until i heard them played bak to back and i had to agree that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued that the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context for any distinctiveness. On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where the comparison ends i think? On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: My friend Rich found this: http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare with synth strings in Night of the Jaguar
