Re: (313) Timeline in Italy

2004-04-20 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
So, what can i expect from these guys?

fab

> 
> I am suprised this is such a mystery to people..
> 
> Danny Caballero - DJ Dex
> Raphael Merriweathers - MIA
> Santiago Salazar - S2
> 
> Dj Dex and S2 are the youngest UR operatives.i saw MIA and Dex play
> live with Chaos when we brought them out to play for us...great
> guys...great show. Dj Dex is a really good dj as well, definatly a force
> coming up to be reconed with
> 
> Michael
> www.renegaderhythms.com


Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Samuel De Tomasi
Im experiencing some difficulties to find 'the perfect sample'. Does anyone
here use software drum machines, like NI Battery, FXPansion DR008? DR008
have an emulated TR-909, I dont know it it's good as the 909 hardware, I
supose that it isnt but Ive never worked with a 909. And there's a sample
pack from NI called Synthetic Drums that's already compiled to work with
battery or kontakt.
What do they you use for drums?


Samuel De Tomasi

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis DeSantis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: (313) 909s


> Peteri, Jochem wrote:
>
> > And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.
>
> Can you elaborate on this?
>
> I'm not arguing with it.  I'm just not clear on the idea of an
> "unsampleable" sound.
>
> -- 
> Dennis DeSantis
> www.dennisdesantis.com
>



Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread Mario Atienza
I'm never seen info about a Electrifying Mojo's cassette called "the Mental
Machine" (a book opera) engineered by David Lee, any info 

Thanks in advance

- Mensaje original -
De: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Para: <313@hyperreal.org>
Enviado: martes, 20 de abril de 2004 0:31
Asunto: (313) mojo


> http://www.detroitbumps.com/audio/mojofull.rm
>
> and here you thought he just played Model 500



RE: (313) Timeline in Italy

2004-04-20 Thread Renegade808
>  Who are these people: "Danny  Caballero, Raphael Merriweathers and
> Santiago Salazar"?

I am suprised this is such a mystery to people..

Danny Caballero - DJ Dex
Raphael Merriweathers - MIA
Santiago Salazar - S2

Dj Dex and S2 are the youngest UR operatives.i saw MIA and Dex play
live with Chaos when we brought them out to play for us...great
guys...great show. Dj Dex is a really good dj as well, definatly a force
coming up to be reconed with

Michael
www.renegaderhythms.com


Re: (313) Walter Jones is/is not Walt J?

2004-04-20 Thread Phonopsia
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Subject: Re: (313) Walter Jones is/is not Walt J?


> I wondered that as well and feel the same about this record too.
>
> All three tracks are wwonderful.

I asked this some time last year when a 12" of his with a Maurice Fulton
remix came out. Turned out I prefered the original! At the time I was told
they were indeed different people. Can't recall the source though. :/

Tristan
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Re: AW: (313) Loveparade 2004?

2004-04-20 Thread yussel
double post?
my point is- the 'festival' that someone posted we're just large single
events. Love Parade is a whole weekend of activity surrounding the actual
parade itself. Same with Movement. Those sorts of weekends are rare.

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Katrin Richter wrote:

> To your information: The Love Parade is a parade which is only during the
> day from 2 to ten pm. You are probably talking about all the other events
> that take place during the whole weekend in numerous clubs around Berlin
>
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. April 2004 20:40
> An: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
> Cc: Robert Taylor; Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> Betreff: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
>
> but are the promarily dace events?
>
> we can debate the meanng of 'festival' all day to no avail.
>
> i was mearly pointing out the some of hat people call 'festivals' are just
> big night long events- hardly the same a full weekend offered up by love
> parade or movement
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:
>
> > I don't know about that - take Glastonbury Festival, or Reading, Isle Of
> > Wight, all the Virgin rubbish they do here too - none of those are free,
> but
> > they're definately festivals.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 April 2004 6:04
> > To: Robert Taylor
> > Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
> >
> >
> > my point was- aren't awakenings just giant raves where you pay ticket and
> > walk through security and have you 10-12 hours of technoy goodness and go
> > home?
> >
> > as opposed to festivals like love parade and movement that arr free and
> > open to the public. they take place in a public space as opposed to a
> > 'venue' and encompass a whole weekends worth of happenings as opposed to
> > just one long night out.
> >
> > On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > Eryes. That's what festivals are, Yussel!
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:31 PM
> > > To: Robert Taylor
> > > Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
> > >
> > >
> > > am i wrong, or arent' these more just giant parties?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can think of two off the top of my head.
> > > >
> > > > Primavera: http://www.primaverasound.com/
> > > > "  !!! (SMOG) 12TWELVE 24 GRANA A TOUCH OF CLASS (DJ'S) ALEXANDER
> > ROBOTNICK ASCII.DISKO ATOM RHUMBA B. FLEISCHMANN BENJAMIN BIOLAY BLACK
> > STROBE CASIOTONE FOR THE PAINFULLY ALONE CHICKS ON SPEED AND THE NO HEADS
> > CHUCHO COLDER CRISTIAN VOGEL (DJ) DAVID HOLMES (DJ) DAYNA KURTZ DEVENDRA
> > BANHART DIZZEE RASCAL DJ/RUPTURE DOMINIQUE A EDISON WOODS ELBOW
> ELECTRELANE
> > EROL ALKAN (DJ) FANNYPACK FERENC FERNANDO ALFARO & NACHO VEGAS FRANZ
> > FERDINAND FUNK D'VOID (DJ) GINFERNO HUMBERT HUMBERT JAMES CHANCE & THE
> > CONTORTIONS JAMES MURPHY (DJ) JASON FORREST/ DONNA SUMMER JULIE DELPY
> JULIE
> > DOIRON KID 606 LA BUENA VIDA LAS PERRAS DEL INFIERNO LIARS LLOYD COLE
> LLUÍS
> > LLACH LOVE OF LESBIAN LUKE SLATER (DJ) MARCO PASSARANI (DJ) MATMOS MICHAEL
> > GIRA MISS KITTIN (DJ) MUDHONEY NINA NASTASIA NUMBERS PAT MacDONALD PIXIES
> PJ
> > HARVEY PLAID PREFUSE 73 PRETTY GIRLS MAKE GRAVES PRIMAL SCREAM REFREE
> RHYTHM
> > & SOUND featuring Paul St. Hilaire RUPER ORDORIKA SCISSOR SISTERS SUN KIL
> > MOON TÉLÉFAX TECHNASIA (DJ) THE BUG THE DIVINE COMEDY THE FALL THE GLIMMER
> > TWINS DJ'S THE HIDDEN CAMERAS THE LADYBUG TRANSISTOR THE MODERNIST THE
> > RAVEONETTES THE RUSSIAN FUTURISTS VERACRUZ WILCO WILLARD GRANT CONSPIRACY
> > XIU XIU"
> > > >
> > > > Awakenings: http://www.awakenings.nl/
> > > >
> > > >  LIVE:
> > > > Alexander Kowalski
> > > > Carlos Rios & Vincent de Wit
> > > > Jacek Sienkiewics
> > > > Joris Voorn
> > > > Luciano
> > > > Regis & James Ruskin
> > > >
> > > > DJ'S:
> > > > Acid Maria & Electric Indigo
> > > > Adam Beyer
> > > > Bart Skils
> > > > Cari Lekebusch
> > > > Cristian Varela & Marco Bailey
> > > > Chris Liebing
> > > > Estroe & Shinedoe
> > > > Gayle San
> > > > Heiko Laux
> > > > Herr ARTer & Terry Toner
> > > > Koze
> > > > Lars Klein & Jan Liefhebber
> > > > Lucca
> > > > Marco Remus
> > > > Lauhaus & Melon
> > > > Michel de Hey
> > > > Miss Djax
> > > > Misstress Barbara
> > > > Monica Electronica
> > > > Oscar Mulero
> > > > PET Duo
> > > > Petar Dundov & Steve Rachmad
> > > > Phonopunk
> > > > Ricardo Villalobos
> > > > Rumenige & Loktibrada
> > > > Steve Bug
> > > > Tobi Neumann
> > > > Vin-iLL
> > > > Wighnomy Brothers
> > > >
> > > > I Love Techno:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Jari Tolkkinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > > S

RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

2004-04-20 Thread yussel
why do i feel like no one is really in this conversation but me?

and that's a stupid question. is an electric guitar old? depends on what
you do with it.


On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Wibo Lammerts wrote:

> Would you then consider an 909 drummachine to be oldschool, obsolete or ...?
>
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 april 2004 0:20
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: 313
> Onderwerp: Re: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)
>
> case by case basis i suppose. ;)
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can the same be applied to producers who rehash old sounds?
> >
> > MEK
> >
> >
> >
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   et   To:   Jason Brunton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >cc:   313
> <313@hyperreal.org>
> >   04/19/04 04:17 PMSubject:  Re: (313) London
> May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > no- play whatever you want.
> >
> > listen to whatever you want
> > dance to whatever you want.
> >
> > just don't use a catch-phrase to act like you're on some 'next' sh*t by
> > playing old records.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Jason Brunton wrote:
> >
> > > Does this mean I (or anyone else) shouldn't play a record that's "old"
> > > even if I just heard it for the first time and it's "new" to me??  I
> > > play records that are good- I really don't care how old or new they are
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16 Apr 2004, at 18:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >>
> > > >> We're gonna go back in order to go
> > > >> forward. >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Attention all techno everyones!!! Please stop using this excuse to be
> > > > retro. You are not going fowward by playing old records. You are being
> > > > retro- which is fine. But stop faking it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Logic7
"jomox xbase09 i think has this ability

robin..."


... And the 313Techknow list has the ability to further handle this
discussion. Before someone get's loud about this thread, join us there. It's
been quiet lately.

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Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread robin



or use a 707/727 with a sampler at a fraction of the cost?



The 707/727 only send MIDI note information when they're in song mode.
What most people use these machines for is to fill them with patterns,
and then switch patterns on the fly. Or they put them in step write or tap
write mode, and change the pattern on the fly. Neither mode sends midi notes.


i stand corrected...thanks kent


All of the machines after the 606 are missing what I want -- to be able
to switch patterns AND be able to edit patterns without stopping the sequencer.
All the Rolands after the 606 want you stop the sequencer to switch patterns
in write mode.

This kind of petty annoyance is carried on with modern machines. The ER-1
at least will let you modify a pattern and switch patterns without stopping
the sequencer, but it won't let you save a pattern without stopping the
sequencer. WTF?


jomox xbase09 i think has this ability

robin...



Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Kent williams
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, robin wrote:
>
> or use a 707/727 with a sampler at a fraction of the cost?
>
The 707/727 only send MIDI note information when they're in song mode.
What most people use these machines for is to fill them with patterns,
and then switch patterns on the fly. Or they put them in step write or tap
write mode, and change the pattern on the fly. Neither mode sends midi notes.

All of the machines after the 606 are missing what I want -- to be able
to switch patterns AND be able to edit patterns without stopping the sequencer.
All the Rolands after the 606 want you stop the sequencer to switch patterns
in write mode.

This kind of petty annoyance is carried on with modern machines. The ER-1
at least will let you modify a pattern and switch patterns without stopping
the sequencer, but it won't let you save a pattern without stopping the
sequencer. WTF?



Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread alex . bond

>or attended Maurizio's for some beauty school lessons?

heh heh!

you gotta love those crazy-ass americano's

you're all bonkers

"need a truck?"
"come to lesters, just ninety nine ninety nine - drive it home today"

ha ha, I'm loving this tape man, loving it.

"midnight funk association aerobics" w/ Model 500 "Technicolour"
straight after the luve hour!!!

come on, someone somewhere must have more of this s**t, this is ACE

alex
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Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread robin


or use a 707/727 with a sampler at a fraction of the cost?

robin...


John Coleman wrote:

i wont lie, sitting down and playing a 909 is almost as fun as
playing a real drum set. but really what it came down to for me
was that i didnt want to sound just like other people, so i sold
it.



true, a 909 sounds like a 909. not a huge variety of sounds there, though
I love those sounds!
i suppose the solution would be to unplug the audio and just use the 909
as a pattern sequencer. trigger sounds from a sampler or other drum
machine or whatever off of the 909's MIDI out. you still have that 909
interface and it's nice swing, but with all-new sounds. :)







RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread John Coleman
> i wont lie, sitting down and playing a 909 is almost as fun as
> playing a real drum set. but really what it came down to for me
> was that i didnt want to sound just like other people, so i sold
> it.

true, a 909 sounds like a 909. not a huge variety of sounds there, though
I love those sounds!
i suppose the solution would be to unplug the audio and just use the 909
as a pattern sequencer. trigger sounds from a sampler or other drum
machine or whatever off of the 909's MIDI out. you still have that 909
interface and it's nice swing, but with all-new sounds. :)




Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread robin



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

luve.
it's what we're all about.

anyone ever taken their girl on the "detroit moonlight cruise"?
nope?



or attended Maurizio's for some beauty school lessons?

:)



robin...



Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread alex . bond

luve.
it's what we're all about.

anyone ever taken their girl on the "detroit moonlight cruise"?
nope?

sounds cool to me..

; )

Alex

p.s. anyone got any more mojo tapes?




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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
Madlib is the king of knowing what to do...there is a lil secret to the SP 
though, the marley marl trick
It´s called hard-cut, and its a vitaliser patented by EMU built into the SP(and 
a lot of other EMU samplers).

And ever touched the sequencer on the SP? I don´t know what they were thinking 
when they made it but that is the strangest machine i ever touched. You loop 
with a fader, its more LSD then a bob ross show

i was reading an interview in wax poetics with madlib and mf doom 
recently. their LP together has alot of that old hiphop 
grittiness, no doubt. but madlib used nothing but the boss sp-303, 
a piece of crap recently made phrase sampler. he just knows what 
he is doing. 

tom 



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313@hyperreal.org

2004-04-20 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I think manufacturers should go back to making machines that do their
intended job poorly. Like the 303 trying to replicate a real bass guitar.

MEK




  "Ken Odeluga" 

  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:   "Peteri, Jochem" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org>   
  ones.com>cc:  

   Subject:  RE: (313) 909s (&808)  

  04/20/04 04:47 AM 










>I know its weird, but ive been feeding it to the mpc and it wont
>work...only if you loop it
>its like those pedal hihats the dr rhythm makes if you double open
>and closed hihats, everything goes all weird in the rhythm
>section. Also, my compressor reacts totally different to an
>original and a sampled 909 kick. I sample it straight from the
>source(individual outs) and still the real kick kills anything
>within sight..
>
One of the reasons is the amount of imagination and energy that the
original
sound designers put into the sounds of the 909 and it's cousin, 808. Have
you ever noticed for instance how the kicks - especially those ones with a
long enough sustain to enable one to notice - *go marignally flat* towards
the decay? That is such a distinct thing to observe and include. In fact,
it
is what a real kick drum does too.

k





RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
Musical styles have weaopons of choice
to me a 909 is to techno as the rhodes to soul
its not essential, but almost every soulrecord i pick up has one in it, and i 
dont do that on purpose..

 i just think that you can really retain that old 
feeling without using the exact same pieces of gear. 

tom 


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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.

- Original Message --
From: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>a strange thing suddenly pops into my mind, the only time i got a
kick which was as punchy as my 909 but still as deep was with my
12bit-sampler, a point proven by hiphop-productions on a daily
bases(sp1200 anyone?)...strange but true
>
>Theo uses it, so there´s some 313 evidence of this as well, as
did MK i believe. He looped the 909 in it, so the shuffle was 909
authentic stuff, but the boost came from the SP

this is true, but its not even just the sp12 or 1200 in
particular. if you downsample to 12 bit it makes kicks sound
really really nice. it pretty much doesnt matter what sampler you
use. you could even just convert the sample to 12 bit in
soundforge and kick it out to a 16 bit sampler and itll still have
that dusty TWOMP sound.

i was reading an interview in wax poetics with madlib and mf doom
recently. their LP together has alot of that old hiphop
grittiness, no doubt. but madlib used nothing but the boss sp-303,
a piece of crap recently made phrase sampler. he just knows what
he is doing.

tom


andythepooh.com







RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message --
From: "John Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I also find programming beats into the 909 to be very natural and 
easy. I
>find there's just an intuitiveness and quickness to it, I just 
slap the
>909 into step mode, hit play, and start entering in patterns. It 
just
>*feels* right. :)

i wont lie, sitting down and playing a 909 is almost as fun as 
playing a real drum set. but really what it came down to for me 
was that i didnt want to sound just like other people, so i sold 
it. with the exception of my 2 roland synths (101 and juno 106) i 
decided that i would rather have machines that dont have an 
extremely distinct sound so that i can get my stuff to sound 
unlike other things. even the 106 i think can sound pretty varied, 
its mainly the 101 that i use to get a very recognizeable sound. 
for my drums i got a relatively non-distinct sampler (s3000xl) and 
i feed it with samples i make combining stomper and sampled kicks 
from funk, rock, and jazz records. ive gotten some killer kicks 
that have my own sound. and i use a computer to sequence, which 
can be very cool for getting wild swing. all i do is NOT QUANTIZE 
my hi hats and other percussion. try doing that with a 909 ; P 

anyway, obviously i have no problem with people who are into the 
old standard sounds considering how many records made with them 
that i buy. i just think that you can really retain that old 
feeling without using the exact same pieces of gear. 

tom 


andythepooh.com


 
   


RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
a strange thing suddenly pops into my mind, the only time i got a kick which 
was as punchy as my 909 but still as deep was with my 12bit-sampler, a point 
proven by hiphop-productions on a daily bases(sp1200 anyone?)...strange but true

Theo uses it, so there´s some 313 evidence of this as well, as did MK i 
believe. He looped the 909 in it, so the shuffle was 909 authentic stuff, but 
the boost came from the SP


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Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Kevin Reynolds


Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:42:05 +0200
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
From: "Peteri, Jochem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: (313) 909s
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I know its weird, but ive been feeding it to the mpc and it wont =
work...only if you loop it
its like those pedal hihats the dr rhythm makes if you double open and 
=
closed hihats, everything goes all weird in the rhythm section. Also, 
my =

compressor reacts totally different to an original and a sampled 909 =
kick. I sample it straight from the source(individual outs) and still =
the real kick kills anything within sight..

not really a scientific explanation but enough to keep the 909 in the =
setup and give it half my mixer instead of giving it to the MPC(which =
has replaced all other drummachines in my setup)

hope its of some use. ; )


And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby. =20


Can you elaborate on this?

I'm not arguing with it.  I'm just not clear on the idea of an=20
"unsampleable" sound.

--=20
Dennis DeSantis
www.dennisdesantis.com


The best I heard it explained was this way:: (Thanks Discovery Channel)
Think of Digital (sampled drum hits in this case) as a light switch, 
the light is either on or off, yes or no, 1's and 0's.  Think of Analog 
(a bass kick from 808/909 or old synth sound) as a bunch of maybes.  
There is no clear on/off.  Electricity triggered by hitting the switch 
on the machine turns into a voltage spike that tells the machine to 
make a sound.


Here is the main concept why sampling a 909/808 kick sounds weak, with 
the sample you get a "snapshot" of that one kick you sampled, that kick 
will be the same every single time you play it (yes/no, on/off).  
Whereas an analog kick changes depending on how circuits transduce that 
electricity, it will be different ever single time you play it.


An analog kick will always sound "bigger", cause it's a living, 
breathing, moving thing, it fills space.  Maybe that's where the 
concept of it being "unsampleable" comes from.  I think as technology & 
sample rates get better digital will come closer to filling the gaps 
and the maybes that analog has provided for us.  Some people here 
believe we are very close with some machines (waldorf, access, some 
software) with synth sounds.  But nothing yet can compare to that 
808/909 kick.  We can emulate the hi-hats (mute groups on the MPC or 
software)...but not yet the kick.  An 808/909 kick is a beautiful 
thing, but so is a sampled kick, break whatever.


Hope this helps explain and didn't confuse the hell out of anybody.

-Kevin



RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
the MPC has that same feel, and gives me the intuitive programming aproach for 
a full track. Beats the hell out of that ext. key blah on the 909...Seriously, 
i used that a lot before i got my MPC. Haunting functionality, built to 
aggrevate...


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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread John Coleman
I also find programming beats into the 909 to be very natural and easy. I
find there's just an intuitiveness and quickness to it, I just slap the
909 into step mode, hit play, and start entering in patterns. It just
*feels* right. :)

I can do the same thing with other drum machines (the Machinedrum, for
example) but not of the other ones i've used have that same tactile feel
to them. Back to it just feeling right.


> yeah, looping works. it took me about ten years to get with the whole
> resample program im a lazy bum, but it works like crazy. Do a tune,
> sample the different tracks and multiply your gear. The downside is you
> still need a real 909 to create the loops




Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread alex . bond

ha!

>http://www.detroitbumps.com/audio/mojofull.rm

thanks so much for posting this!!

does anyone know when this tape's from?

I'm listening to it now at work, with one earphone on.
got a big grin, checking out mojo's styles.
giving the big "up yours" to the accountants.
: P
is this what he's like all the time??
it's like John Peel on some deep LSD vibe.
buzzing off all the adverts even.

top one, you made me very happy.

alex

p.s. bootlegs = booties innit
 808's = mates



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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
yeah, looping works. it took me about ten years to get with the whole resample 
program im a lazy bum, but it works like crazy. Do a tune, sample the different 
tracks and multiply your gear. The downside is you still need a real 909 to 
create the loops

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To: Peteri, Jochem; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 909s


You will have a hard time sampling a single sample from an 808 or 909. the
trick is to sample a pattern (just kicks or hat or whatever etc) so you get
that slight drift 


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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread House of Suki
You will have a hard time sampling a single sample from an 808 or 909. the
trick is to sample a pattern (just kicks or hat or whatever etc) so you get
that slight drift 

-Original Message-
From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:28 AM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) 909s

I´ve tried to fiddle about a bit with that human feel, but i found it
utterly useless...Did I miss something??

The R8 is a nice machine, although it has heavy sync-problems and in case im
getting too much gear and not enough techno

everybody sing with me

"Rock...Rohooohooohooockrock to the beat" 

techno karaoke

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RE: (313) Timeline in Italy

2004-04-20 Thread Robert Taylor
 Who are these people: "Danny  Caballero, Raphael Merriweathers and Santiago 
Salazar"?

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From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:15 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) Timeline in Italy


Hi 
i just got this in, it maybe of interest to some of you.

> Subject: mess. from M.Passarani: Finalfrontier 10th
> birthday feat. UR /
>   Timeline Show
> 
> Dear friends, this is Marco Passarani on the other
> side of the connection.
> Hope you're doing well.
> 
> I'm sending you this email to advice you that this
> week we're celebrating 
> the first ten years of our production company
> Finalfrontier.
> This special occasion will be celebrated during the
> upcoming weekend with 
> two parties in Rome and in Bologna.
> I do apologize if this is a "collective" email, that
> was the only chance I 
> had to talk to all the persons we think that have
> been important for the 
> life of our company.
> 
> 
> Both parties will feature performances from the
> Finalfrontier people like 
> Raiders of the lost ARP, Andrea Benedetti,
> Francisco, Mat101 and of course 
> me as well  but the very exciting news is that
> Underground Resistance 
> featuring Mike Banks, Gerald Mitchell, Danny
> Caballero,
> Raphael Merriweathers and Santiago Salazar are
> performing as well  the 
> show it's called Timeline and maybe you've heard
> about it since they've 
> done that already in Tokyo and in Paris.
> This unique occasion to see them playing live it's
> happening in Rome the 
> 23rd at the Brancalone club and in Bologna the 24th
> at the Link (where Jeff 
> Mills will also join the room with his current "The
> Exhibitionist" show).
> 
> We know it's a bit late to advice you about this
> events, but we decided to 
> keep the word very quiet in order to do that more as
> a real party rather 
> than a big event.
> 
> If you don't have anything special to do in the
> weekend, well I think this 
> is a very good chance to see what's going on
> overhere.
> Both clubs are the best at the moment, and you'll
> see a huge crowd 
> attending the night that surely will show you a side
> of the roman city 
> maybe you don't expect.
> 
> In case you wanna come over, especially for the 23rd
> in Roma, we suggest 
> you to get in touch with us in order to have a
> reservation for the 
> entrance. The club is usually sold out around 1.00
>  this time will be 
> even worse.
> or in case you're thinking of coming over, please
> send us an email and 
> we'll make sure you can get into the club.
> 
> That's it.
> I hope to see some of you over here.
> 
> 
> 
> This is Remix Distribution the Finalfrontier.
> the homebase of Nature records, Plasmek and Pigna.
> NEW OFFICE DETAILS:
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(313) Timeline in Italy

2004-04-20 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
Hi 
i just got this in, it maybe of interest to some of you.

> Subject: mess. from M.Passarani: Finalfrontier 10th
> birthday feat. UR /
>   Timeline Show
> 
> Dear friends, this is Marco Passarani on the other
> side of the connection.
> Hope you're doing well.
> 
> I'm sending you this email to advice you that this
> week we're celebrating 
> the first ten years of our production company
> Finalfrontier.
> This special occasion will be celebrated during the
> upcoming weekend with 
> two parties in Rome and in Bologna.
> I do apologize if this is a "collective" email, that
> was the only chance I 
> had to talk to all the persons we think that have
> been important for the 
> life of our company.
> 
> 
> Both parties will feature performances from the
> Finalfrontier people like 
> Raiders of the lost ARP, Andrea Benedetti,
> Francisco, Mat101 and of course 
> me as well  but the very exciting news is that
> Underground Resistance 
> featuring Mike Banks, Gerald Mitchell, Danny
> Caballero,
> Raphael Merriweathers and Santiago Salazar are
> performing as well  the 
> show it's called Timeline and maybe you've heard
> about it since they've 
> done that already in Tokyo and in Paris.
> This unique occasion to see them playing live it's
> happening in Rome the 
> 23rd at the Brancalone club and in Bologna the 24th
> at the Link (where Jeff 
> Mills will also join the room with his current "The
> Exhibitionist" show).
> 
> We know it's a bit late to advice you about this
> events, but we decided to 
> keep the word very quiet in order to do that more as
> a real party rather 
> than a big event.
> 
> If you don't have anything special to do in the
> weekend, well I think this 
> is a very good chance to see what's going on
> overhere.
> Both clubs are the best at the moment, and you'll
> see a huge crowd 
> attending the night that surely will show you a side
> of the roman city 
> maybe you don't expect.
> 
> In case you wanna come over, especially for the 23rd
> in Roma, we suggest 
> you to get in touch with us in order to have a
> reservation for the 
> entrance. The club is usually sold out around 1.00
>  this time will be 
> even worse.
> or in case you're thinking of coming over, please
> send us an email and 
> we'll make sure you can get into the club.
> 
> That's it.
> I hope to see some of you over here.
> 
> 
> 
> This is Remix Distribution the Finalfrontier.
> the homebase of Nature records, Plasmek and Pigna.
> NEW OFFICE DETAILS:
> Via Perugia 22 - 00176 Roma. Italia.
> ph/fax: +39 06 7017205
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web page: www.finalfrontier.it


RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
I´ve tried to fiddle about a bit with that human feel, but i found it utterly 
useless...Did I miss something??

The R8 is a nice machine, although it has heavy sync-problems
and in case im getting too much gear and not enough techno

everybody sing with me

"Rock...Rohooohooohooockrock to the beat" 

techno karaoke

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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Peteri, Jochem wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 about following:

> and the 909 shuffle has bugs, which are great.try recording a groove in 
> q-base, you´ll see em
> tiny irregularities

they probably developed these irregularities to a feature called 'human 
feel' for R-8 & R-8MKII ;P (which is great box, but 909/808 sounds are 
weak)
 

sakke
-- 
Timing must be perfect now.  Two-timing must be better than perfect.
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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
roger linn is going on, as far as the 60 and 3000 are concerned. the 2000xl 
shuffle is pretty average but flexible

and the 909 shuffle has bugs, which are great.try recording a groove in 
q-base, you´ll see em
tiny irregularities

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Subject: Re: (313) 909s


the 909 swing is unmistakable, same with the MPC
swing - 62% baby!
--

Agreed!!  The MPC shuffle/swing quantizing is a viable enough reason to
still get one even alongside today's best modern computer sequencers. It
shouldn't really be the case, because at the end of the day its just maths!
So what's going on here ?



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Re: (313) Walter Jones is/is not Walt J?

2004-04-20 Thread scott_mcgill
I wondered that as well and feel the same about this record too.

All three tracks are wwonderful.


> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2004/04/19 Mon PM 11:37:24 GMT
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Walter Jones is/is not Walt J?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> same person or different?
> 
> is Walter Jones of Westbound records the same as Walt J of Dow records?
> 
> Wax record shop says that Walter Jones is a native of New Orleans and newly
> signed to the LA based Westbound Music label
> 
> not that it matters much as the music is so good
> just picked up "Fade Inn Moments"  EP on the Westbound label
> 
> MEK
> 
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Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread max
the 909 swing is unmistakable, same with the MPC
swing - 62% baby!
--

Agreed!!  The MPC shuffle/swing quantizing is a viable enough reason to
still get one even alongside today's best modern computer sequencers. It
shouldn't really be the case, because at the end of the day its just maths!
So what's going on here ?




RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
I dissagree Sakari, It´s the punch in the end which seems to be missing, 
specially in the 909 one. Its like the nail with which all this mad decaying 
stuff is hammered down with... The snare is difficult, because snappiness is 
more than tuning.

The tuning is something else too, i tune my kit for every track differently and 
tuning a sample is different from tuning an analog sound.

-Original Message-
From: Sakari Karipuro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 20 april 2004 11:53
To: 313
Subject: RE: (313) 909s


Peteri, Jochem wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 about following:

> And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  It´s the 

then try sampling the 808 kick. you'll find out that 909 kick is 
actually really easy to sample. imo the 909 snare is more difficult 
than the kick. sample of it never sounds like what it should! 

sakke
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313@hyperreal.org

2004-04-20 Thread Dennis DeSantis

Ken Odeluga wrote:


*go marignally flat* towards
the decay? That is such a distinct thing to observe and include. In fact, it
is what a real kick drum does too.


Just to clarify - a real kick drum does this if the batter head is tuned 
tighter than the resonant head.  Toms are often tuned this way as well.
But it's not a product of the INSTRUMENT.  It's a result of tuning 
conventions.


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313@hyperreal.org

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
Ken has a great point, it doesnt just fade but dissolve. If before its gone it 
bumps into another analog sound the collision is just beautiful, and the decay 
of the sound it bumped into has changed considerably. 

I hope this gives a good picture of the power of a 909



One of the reasons is the amount of imagination and energy that the original
sound designers put into the sounds of the 909 and it's cousin, 808. Have
you ever noticed for instance how the kicks - especially those ones with a
long enough sustain to enable one to notice - *go marignally flat* towards
the decay? That is such a distinct thing to observe and include. In fact, it
is what a real kick drum does too.

k

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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Sakari Karipuro
Peteri, Jochem wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 2004 about following:

> And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  It´s the 

then try sampling the 808 kick. you'll find out that 909 kick is 
actually really easy to sample. imo the 909 snare is more difficult 
than the kick. sample of it never sounds like what it should! 

sakke
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http://www.arabuusimiehet.com/sakke/


RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Andrew
Hi,



> And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.

Can you elaborate on this?

I'm not arguing with it.  I'm just not clear on the idea of an 
"unsampleable" sound.



This can be explained by seeing that the 909 generates each kick tone
on-the-fly - it's an analogue synth tuned to make that sound. The 808 is
completely analogue, whereas the 909 has analogue generators for some sounds
(bass drum, toms, hi-hats) and digital samples for other sounds (clap,
rimshot). (I think that's right about those sounds, I still don't own one of
these things! Seriously need one, and an 808. Unique instruments.)

So, every time the bass drum fires off it is subtly different, and therefore
any sample is more like a photograph than the real thing. Also, there's the
timing engine to consider - the 909 swing is unmistakable, same with the MPC
swing - 62% baby!

Hope this helps,

Andrew





313@hyperreal.org

2004-04-20 Thread Ken Odeluga

>I know its weird, but ive been feeding it to the mpc and it wont
>work...only if you loop it
>its like those pedal hihats the dr rhythm makes if you double open
>and closed hihats, everything goes all weird in the rhythm
>section. Also, my compressor reacts totally different to an
>original and a sampled 909 kick. I sample it straight from the
>source(individual outs) and still the real kick kills anything
>within sight..
>
One of the reasons is the amount of imagination and energy that the original
sound designers put into the sounds of the 909 and it's cousin, 808. Have
you ever noticed for instance how the kicks - especially those ones with a
long enough sustain to enable one to notice - *go marignally flat* towards
the decay? That is such a distinct thing to observe and include. In fact, it
is what a real kick drum does too.

k


RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
I know its weird, but ive been feeding it to the mpc and it wont work...only if 
you loop it
its like those pedal hihats the dr rhythm makes if you double open and closed 
hihats, everything goes all weird in the rhythm section. Also, my compressor 
reacts totally different to an original and a sampled 909 kick. I sample it 
straight from the source(individual outs) and still the real kick kills 
anything within sight..

not really a scientific explanation but enough to keep the 909 in the setup and 
give it half my mixer instead of giving it to the MPC(which has replaced all 
other drummachines in my setup)

hope its of some use. ; )


> And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  

Can you elaborate on this?

I'm not arguing with it.  I'm just not clear on the idea of an 
"unsampleable" sound.

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Re: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Dennis DeSantis

Peteri, Jochem wrote:

And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  


Can you elaborate on this?

I'm not arguing with it.  I'm just not clear on the idea of an 
"unsampleable" sound.


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AW: (313) Loveparade 2004?

2004-04-20 Thread Katrin Richter
To your information: The Love Parade is a parade which is only during the
day from 2 to ten pm. You are probably talking about all the other events
that take place during the whole weekend in numerous clubs around Berlin




-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
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Gesendet: Montag, 19. April 2004 20:40
An: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT)
Cc: Robert Taylor; Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
Betreff: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?

but are the promarily dace events?

we can debate the meanng of 'festival' all day to no avail.

i was mearly pointing out the some of hat people call 'festivals' are just
big night long events- hardly the same a full weekend offered up by love
parade or movement

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) wrote:

> I don't know about that - take Glastonbury Festival, or Reading, Isle Of
> Wight, all the Virgin rubbish they do here too - none of those are free,
but
> they're definately festivals.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 April 2004 6:04
> To: Robert Taylor
> Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
>
>
> my point was- aren't awakenings just giant raves where you pay ticket and
> walk through security and have you 10-12 hours of technoy goodness and go
> home?
>
> as opposed to festivals like love parade and movement that arr free and
> open to the public. they take place in a public space as opposed to a
> 'venue' and encompass a whole weekends worth of happenings as opposed to
> just one long night out.
>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
>
> > Eryes. That's what festivals are, Yussel!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:31 PM
> > To: Robert Taylor
> > Cc: Jari Tolkkinen; 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Loveparade 2004?
> >
> >
> > am i wrong, or arent' these more just giant parties?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Robert Taylor wrote:
> >
> > > I can think of two off the top of my head.
> > >
> > > Primavera: http://www.primaverasound.com/
> > > "  !!! (SMOG) 12TWELVE 24 GRANA A TOUCH OF CLASS (DJ'S) ALEXANDER
> ROBOTNICK ASCII.DISKO ATOM RHUMBA B. FLEISCHMANN BENJAMIN BIOLAY BLACK
> STROBE CASIOTONE FOR THE PAINFULLY ALONE CHICKS ON SPEED AND THE NO HEADS
> CHUCHO COLDER CRISTIAN VOGEL (DJ) DAVID HOLMES (DJ) DAYNA KURTZ DEVENDRA
> BANHART DIZZEE RASCAL DJ/RUPTURE DOMINIQUE A EDISON WOODS ELBOW
ELECTRELANE
> EROL ALKAN (DJ) FANNYPACK FERENC FERNANDO ALFARO & NACHO VEGAS FRANZ
> FERDINAND FUNK D'VOID (DJ) GINFERNO HUMBERT HUMBERT JAMES CHANCE & THE
> CONTORTIONS JAMES MURPHY (DJ) JASON FORREST/ DONNA SUMMER JULIE DELPY
JULIE
> DOIRON KID 606 LA BUENA VIDA LAS PERRAS DEL INFIERNO LIARS LLOYD COLE
LLUÍS
> LLACH LOVE OF LESBIAN LUKE SLATER (DJ) MARCO PASSARANI (DJ) MATMOS MICHAEL
> GIRA MISS KITTIN (DJ) MUDHONEY NINA NASTASIA NUMBERS PAT MacDONALD PIXIES
PJ
> HARVEY PLAID PREFUSE 73 PRETTY GIRLS MAKE GRAVES PRIMAL SCREAM REFREE
RHYTHM
> & SOUND featuring Paul St. Hilaire RUPER ORDORIKA SCISSOR SISTERS SUN KIL
> MOON TÉLÉFAX TECHNASIA (DJ) THE BUG THE DIVINE COMEDY THE FALL THE GLIMMER
> TWINS DJ'S THE HIDDEN CAMERAS THE LADYBUG TRANSISTOR THE MODERNIST THE
> RAVEONETTES THE RUSSIAN FUTURISTS VERACRUZ WILCO WILLARD GRANT CONSPIRACY
> XIU XIU"
> > >
> > > Awakenings: http://www.awakenings.nl/
> > >
> > >  LIVE:
> > > Alexander Kowalski
> > > Carlos Rios & Vincent de Wit
> > > Jacek Sienkiewics
> > > Joris Voorn
> > > Luciano
> > > Regis & James Ruskin
> > >
> > > DJ'S:
> > > Acid Maria & Electric Indigo
> > > Adam Beyer
> > > Bart Skils
> > > Cari Lekebusch
> > > Cristian Varela & Marco Bailey
> > > Chris Liebing
> > > Estroe & Shinedoe
> > > Gayle San
> > > Heiko Laux
> > > Herr ARTer & Terry Toner
> > > Koze
> > > Lars Klein & Jan Liefhebber
> > > Lucca
> > > Marco Remus
> > > Lauhaus & Melon
> > > Michel de Hey
> > > Miss Djax
> > > Misstress Barbara
> > > Monica Electronica
> > > Oscar Mulero
> > > PET Duo
> > > Petar Dundov & Steve Rachmad
> > > Phonopunk
> > > Ricardo Villalobos
> > > Rumenige & Loktibrada
> > > Steve Bug
> > > Tobi Neumann
> > > Vin-iLL
> > > Wighnomy Brothers
> > >
> > > I Love Techno:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jari Tolkkinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:53 AM
> > > To: 313@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: (313) Loveparade 2004?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I read from the local newspaper that this years Loveparade will be
> > > cancelled. Does anybody here on the list have more information about
> this?
> > >
> > > Any other festivals besides LP and Sonar that are taking place in
Europe
> > > this summer?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jari Tolkkinen | dj ken-guru | http://www.ken-guru.net
> > > --
> > >
> > >
>

Re: (313) mojo

2004-04-20 Thread alex . bond

>http://www.detroitbumps.com/audio/mojofull.rm

arrrgghhh!!!

I can't get this to work for some reason, is it a stream (I dont think my
work allows streams)
can anyone help me at all? I'd be really grateful

and thanks to yussell for posting it.

alex
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RE: (313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
I think the machine is a bit underrated strange as this might sound...you can 
mix it old school fashion, but you can mix this baby in so many ways. Its so 
much more than the sound we think of when we say 909. This machine can boost 
your mix like nothing else out there. 

And the kick is essential, you cannot sample this baby.  It´s the most used 
kick and will remain so for a long time and not without reason..




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(313) 909s

2004-04-20 Thread Ken Odeluga
>Would you then consider an 909 drummachine to be oldschool,
>obsolete or ...?

Consider a 909 like a blues-guitar. It represents a relatively old,
traditional and certainly distinct 'discipline' of music. It's a specialist
side which people adhere to, despite it being arguably outmoded, because
they enjoy it. And like jazz and blues, people are constantly trying to
breathe new life into the relatively confined and already defined form of
music which it represents.

So whilst I may agree with the idea that a 909 is 'oldschool' (an ironic
term for a piece of kit which you could say used to be symbolic of futurism
in music) I can't see it as obsolete, even whilst I recognize it as out of
date.

k


RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

2004-04-20 Thread Peteri, Jochem
Rolls Royce

-Original Message-
From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 20 april 2004 11:03
To: 313
Subject: Re: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)


classic
- Original Message - 
From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)


> Would you then consider an 909 drummachine to be oldschool, obsolete or
...?
>
>


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Re: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

2004-04-20 Thread Fabrizio Nahum
classic
- Original Message - 
From: "Wibo Lammerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)


> Would you then consider an 909 drummachine to be oldschool, obsolete or
...?
>
>



RE: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

2004-04-20 Thread Wibo Lammerts
Would you then consider an 909 drummachine to be oldschool, obsolete or ...?


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: dinsdag 20 april 2004 0:20
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: 313
Onderwerp: Re: (313) London May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)

case by case basis i suppose. ;)

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Can the same be applied to producers who rehash old sounds?
>
> MEK
>
>
>
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   et   To:   Jason Brunton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>cc:   313
<313@hyperreal.org>
>   04/19/04 04:17 PMSubject:  Re: (313) London
May 1 (Yeah ok, it's about 'Lost'!!)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> no- play whatever you want.
>
> listen to whatever you want
> dance to whatever you want.
>
> just don't use a catch-phrase to act like you're on some 'next' sh*t by
> playing old records.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Jason Brunton wrote:
>
> > Does this mean I (or anyone else) shouldn't play a record that's "old"
> > even if I just heard it for the first time and it's "new" to me??  I
> > play records that are good- I really don't care how old or new they are
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> > On 16 Apr 2004, at 18:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> We're gonna go back in order to go
> > >> forward. >
> > >
> > >
> > > Attention all techno everyones!!! Please stop using this excuse to be
> > > retro. You are not going fowward by playing old records. You are being
> > > retro- which is fine. But stop faking it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>


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(313) FRI APR 23 GABE'S IC SHAWN RUDIMAN

2004-04-20 Thread Kent williams
Friday April 23, 2004
Gabe's 330 E Washington Iowa City, IA
http://www.gabesoasis.com

SHAWN RUDIMAN (Pittsburgh/Technoir/7th City)
After several Industrial/EBM release on Cleopatra as THD (with Ed Vargo)
Shawn Rudiman changed his musical direction in the mid-80s and started
making soulful techno records.  His tracks came to the attention of
Dan Bell/DBX, and Shawn's debut 12" was release on Dan's 7th City Label.
Since then Shawn has focused on his own label Technoir
(http://www.technoiraudio.com) that have won praise from DJ's world
wide.

As if that wasn't enough, Shawn is one of the very few techno producers who
have made a successful transition from the studio to playing live.
Shawn does not press play on a laptop; he brings an array of drum machines,
synths, and hardware sequencers together and composes deep, soulful techno
on the spot, drawing upon the energy of the dancefloor, for a truly interactive
experience.

I'm bringing Shawn here because _I_ want to see him play, and I think that if
you love dance music, you should NOT sleep on this event.  I'm the guy who
brought you Fred Giannelli in 2002, Stewart Walker in 2003, and Shawn Rudiman
in 2004.  This show friday completes the trio of the best live performers in
dance music, world wide, end of story. Don't miss it.

DJ Miche (Brothas & Sistas/IC) Michelle is one of the true pioneers of dance
music in Iowa City.  She's been DJing since the late 80s, helped found
Rotation, and been a great friend to all in the scene since before there was
a scene. There's no one here more O.G. than Miche' and she'll bring the
funk again for you Friday night.

DJ Herbert (IC) Mild-mannered computer tech by day, ferocious collector of
the crucial vinyl by night, Dave is a DJ with great taste and technique. He's
a nice guy to and it's a privelege to have him with us to set things off.

April has been a great month for events in Iowa and I hope to see you all down
for this one. It will be a night to remember!





Re: (313) Breaking it down windows style

2004-04-20 Thread Ian Malbon

On Apr 19, 2004, at 7:50 PM, Dan Kurzius wrote:



Someone has a little too much time on their hands:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/windowsnoises.html


Hmm, there's a little "radioboy" spirit there.

Still, it's no GarageBand. ;-)
--
Ian