(313) Movement Stream?

2004-06-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I can't get anything to work - anyone listening right now to what's going
on?

MEK



Re: (313) Movement Stream?

2004-06-01 Thread Erin Bate
rolando's playing now, and doing a very good job! I think you need 
windows media 9, or use an older version and paste in the IP address.

~E

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I can't get anything to work - anyone listening right now to what's going
on?

MEK

 






Re: (313) Carl Craig/Talking Heads

2004-06-01 Thread alex . bond

In #1 position they listed Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (Carl
Craig Edit)
Does anybody know anything about this?

As mentioned before, Moxie...

Does anyone else think this is rubbish?

Don't like how he edited it at all, not one bit.
How on earth they put it at number 1, I'll never know.

blah blah.
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(313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread Thorin Teague
For some reason this was the first DEMF that I went to. Don't ask me why I 
never went before this year, I couldn't tell you. For the last year and a 
half, I've listened to my roommates complain about how Detroit is the armpit 
of the world, and they can't wait to get out of it. 

I was driving in from Lansing on Saturday morning, and it occurred to me 
seeing the ren cen crest the horizon that there are a million people here 
from all over the world that are completely thrilled to be in the city. It's 
not that I didn't know it was the techno mecca. It's just that it never 
gelled in a physical, bodily way. (Speaking of which, I'm wonderfully sore.) 
So, I guess my perception of the city has been changed. 

The first thing I noticed when I got to the fest was elephant ear stands. 
That really floored me. Hearing the ol' throbbing 
4-on-the-floor-approach-from-afar sound off triumphantly from the movement 
stage and seeing $5 hamburger stands was like and old friend giving me a big 
warm hug while scraping a cheese grater across my gums. 

Anyway I'm not gonna go on and on even though I could. Met lots of cool 
people, a few from the 313 list, yeah, and the music was great and all that, 
blah blah I'll leave it for another post. :) 






RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread iancheshire
Well at least you got there :)
 
I did not :(  due to a few things , personal and other things I did not get to 
go, I was gutted and still am...I'll leave it at that .
 
but I hope all that did go had a great musical experience and met all the peeps 
you wanted to..
 
The tour is still going on www.detroitimpression.com and I hope I can take what 
I  I saw on the webcast I to these clubs this year..
 
Cheers
Ian
 
 
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For some reason this was the first DEMF that I went to. Don't ask me 
why I
never went before this year, I couldn't tell you. For the last year and 
a
half, I've listened to my roommates complain about how Detroit is the 
armpit
of the world, and they can't wait to get out of it.

I was driving in from Lansing on Saturday morning, and it occurred to me
seeing the ren cen crest the horizon that there are a million people 
here
from all over the world that are completely thrilled to be in the city. 
It's
not that I didn't know it was the techno mecca. It's just that it 
never
gelled in a physical, bodily way. (Speaking of which, I'm wonderfully 
sore.)
So, I guess my perception of the city has been changed.

The first thing I noticed when I got to the fest was elephant ear 
stands.
That really floored me. Hearing the ol' throbbing
4-on-the-floor-approach-from-afar sound off triumphantly from the 
movement
stage and seeing $5 hamburger stands was like and old friend giving me 
a big
warm hug while scraping a cheese grater across my gums.

Anyway I'm not gonna go on and on even though I could. Met lots of cool
people, a few from the 313 list, yeah, and the music was great and all 
that,
blah blah I'll leave it for another post. :)






Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread alex . bond

Anyway I'm not gonna go on and on even though I could. Met lots of cool
people, a few from the 313 list, yeah, and the music was great and all
that,
blah blah I'll leave it for another post. :)

come on, come on! the suspense is killing me...!
how was last night? how was the UR party?
what about the ultradyne/ectomorph one, or the recloose/john arlnold/ayro
or the c.young/shake/d.bell or... bah, I could go on forever.
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(313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
answers! ;)

So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top?
Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout for?

can't wait to see pictures

MEK



(313) Movement

2004-06-01 Thread Robert Taylor
Any pics of [EMAIL PROTECTED] f***ed up and lying in a corner would be 
appreciated

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can't wait to see pictures

MEK

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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread Scott K Ellis
Hello All,

The UR party was one of my top 5 events of all time--number 1 as I write
this. Timeline far exceded my very high expecations--not merely playing live
instruments/efx machines over the top of UR classics, but completely
reworking the orginals to the point it sometimes took several minutes to
figure out which track they were working out. They closed with this
absolutely amazing soul/gospel jam that must have gone on for 15-20 minutes.
Chuck of UR had the coolest projections/mini-movies for each song too. What
an awesome show. Can't remember seeing a better--except maybe Amp on
Saturday night, but that's another story. So many great sets all weekend
long.

There's an interesting story in the Detroit Free Press today. Check it out.
Hard to believe all the drama behind the scenes with only a few
cliches--like no Osunlade.

Best.
Scott

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Anyway I'm not gonna go on and on even though I could. Met lots of cool
people, a few from the 313 list, yeah, and the music was great and all
that,
blah blah I'll leave it for another post. :)

come on, come on! the suspense is killing me...!
how was last night? how was the UR party?
what about the ultradyne/ectomorph one, or the recloose/john arlnold/ayro
or the c.young/shake/d.bell or... bah, I could go on forever.
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Re: (313) Movement

2004-06-01 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

At 11:29 AM 6/1/2004, Robert Taylor wrote:

Any pics of [EMAIL PROTECTED] f***ed up and lying in a corner would be 
appreciated


I know Lisa (ubergirl) got a good one of him dancing in front of the high 
tech stage; she turned to me and said that one's going online.
She spent an extra day here to shop, so I'd wait a bit and ask her about 
that one :-)


jeff 





Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread alex . bond

I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
answers! ;)

yeah!

and I wanna know why you all werent dancing down the Claude
Young/Shake/D.Bell party.

you're all rubbish.

; )
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RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




There's an interesting story in the Detroit Free Press today. Check it
out.

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm

I think the most poignant statement is this:


From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.

Detroit can't let this slip away.

this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read this

I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go again
next year
where do I send my check?

MEK



RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread Jernej Marusic
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 francois k - wow. all i can think to say is that it was a once in a 
 lifetime set. if you've heard his sonar set, you have an idea of 
 the style, but this was just genius. 

There's a streaming video recording from Sunday of Main stage (including the
amazing Fracois K set), available on the Movement page. Direct link is:
http://www.sanghainteractive.com/movement/movement_stream.html

Looks like Francois mostly played of laptop (Traktor or Ableton?).

Jernej
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Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread /0
you know, I see movement either dying or going the love parade route.  I'll
explain this in great detail in the days ahead :)

-Joe

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 There's an interesting story in the Detroit Free Press today. Check it
 out.

 http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/move1_20040601.htm

 I think the most poignant statement is this:


 From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
 But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot.

 Detroit can't let this slip away.

 this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
 I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF should read
this

 I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I can go
again
 next year
 where do I send my check?

 MEK




Re: (313) Movement track ID please

2004-06-01 Thread /0
this track kills anywhere you play it.   suuuch a good some.  life is
another great pepe track

-Joe

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 Sounds like you're describing Pepe Braddock's Burning/Deep Burnt.
 Always a crowd pleaser, and no better place to hear it than Hart Plaza.
 -- 
 Ian

 On May 30, 2004, at 11:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  During Garth Trinidad's shockingly great set on High Tech Soul Stage,
  he
  dropped a song that floored the crowd.it got the biggest response that
  I saw
  the entire day.  It was right after the disco-scorcher portion of his
  set
  when he slowed the tempo and chilled things out quite a bit.playing
  tracks
  that would sound completely at home on any of the labels Kruder and
  Dorfmeister are affiliated with.  2 or 3 songs into this portion, he
  played
  a track with a majestically filtered 4 part chord progression.  The
  filtering starts out with the chord barely noticeable and by the
  middle of
  the track the chord is exposed completely and sounds lush and rich.  I
  remember thinking to my self that it sounded like a less driving and
  chilled
  out Groove La Chord by Aril Brikha.
 
  Sound familiar to anyone?  I hope so 'cuz I want it!




Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread /0
too much terrible vocal house IMO.

had it not been for the underground stage, I'd have skipped monday and
possibly sunday night.

sorry to hate, just being honest.
-Joe

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 I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
 answers! ;)

 So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top?
 Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout
for?

 can't wait to see pictures

 MEK




Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread alugo
Yeah, there was this group on the main Sunday (around 6?) that were trying 
to get the crowd into it and they were doing a cross house/gospel/soul 
thing. The people sitting in the bowl looked like they were all 
experiencing general malaise at not hearing techno even in its most 
homogenous form. I think they would have been happier even with the most 
commercial trance. Don't get me wrong, the band was really musically 
speaking as far being musicians, but that why there's the Jazzfest.

It was definitely night and day from when Ayro got down on the main stage 
last year, even with all of the live musicians he had backing him up, you 
could feel the electronic portion of his set. And when he created his 
percussion patterns live and recorded them into his set on the fly (very 
nice).

It would have been cool to see Dan Bell in the underground stage this 
year..definitely one my highlights last year. I went to a loft party 
Saturday night at Nikki's that was hot as the freaking Congo, but the 
music was hot. Still don't know who was playing (too fried to ask any 
questions by that point. It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde 
guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was 
exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he had 
destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the whole 
affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat. 
I'm going to drop all of the pics I took somewhere soon. 

All in all..really enjoyable weekend...

Peace,
Alex

P.S. Thanks to anyone on here that came out to the Ultradyne show on 
Sunday. Good to see a decent crowd for one of our shows in Detroit...



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too much terrible vocal house IMO.

had it not been for the underground stage, I'd have skipped monday and
possibly sunday night.

sorry to hate, just being honest.
-Joe

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 I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
 answers! ;)

 So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top?
 Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout
for?

 can't wait to see pictures

 MEK






Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread Carissa Tintinalli

That was Vladislav Delay aka Luomo.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I went to a loft party

Saturday night at Nikki's that was hot as the freaking Congo, but the
music was hot. Still don't know who was playing (too fried to ask any
questions by that point. It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde
guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was
exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he had
destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the whole
affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat.
I'm going to drop all of the pics I took somewhere soon.


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Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?
Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
I'd like to know...

Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen
again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

MEK




   
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  I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes.
~E

From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit
can't let this slip away.

this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
should read this

I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I
can go again next year
where do I send my check?





Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread theREALmxyzptlk

At 04:16 PM 6/1/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.

So what part of the business do they need to run better?
 Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part?
Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
part?


I'd say the above - but what do I know? And - even if it hasn't manifested 
in your neighborhood - the economy (where it benefits first...in corporate 
coffers anyway) IS doing better.




Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen
again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?


Agreed - most definitely.
It's just a drag that the movers and shakers in the high places can't pony 
up like they seem to do for Hoedowns, Tastefests, etc.


jeff 





Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread yussel
 I went to a loft party
 Saturday night at Nikki's that was hot as the freaking Congo, but the
 music was hot. Still don't know who was playing (too fried to ask any
 questions by that point.

it was the paxahau DJs (Chuck Flask, Drew Maddox and a new kid who I don't
know + Shaun Reeves) all just tagging away, yet managing to sound like a
complete set.


 It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde
 guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was
 exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he had
 destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the whole
 affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat.

that was Vladislav Delay (Luomo)












 I'm going to drop all of the pics I took somewhere soon.

 All in all..really enjoyable weekend...

 Peace,
 Alex

 P.S. Thanks to anyone on here that came out to the Ultradyne show on
 Sunday. Good to see a decent crowd for one of our shows in Detroit...



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 too much terrible vocal house IMO.

 had it not been for the underground stage, I'd have skipped monday and
 possibly sunday night.

 sorry to hate, just being honest.
 -Joe

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 313@hyperreal.org
 Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:07 AM
 Subject: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement


 
 
 
 
  I'm sure most of you who went aren't back yet - but Alex and I want
  answers! ;)
 
  So - which tracks did you hear the most and which ones were the top?
  Any new tracks that made their debuts that we should be on the lookout
 for?
 
  can't wait to see pictures
 
  MEK
 






RE: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread quest pond
Just been watching FK. He seems to have a go at everything i thought, just
been glued to to the video. Bit of CD's i thought, vinyl definately and the
laptop a lot.  Looks like technical hell i would have thought but he seems
to manage it, not quite sure how, i mean he's mousing the speed of tracks on
the laptop to mix into the vinyl.

Great track selection going on there, you can here his production skills
coming through in way he mixes.

Very classy set, only 1 cliche 'hits and memories track' the rest nice an
minimal and quite obscure and very electronic. I'll pay to see this any day.

Quest

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 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Britz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 1. junij 2004 15:30
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
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 francois k - wow. all i can think to say is that it was a once in a
 lifetime set. if you've heard his sonar set, you have an idea of
 the style, but this was just genius.

There's a streaming video recording from Sunday of Main stage (including the
amazing Fracois K set), available on the Movement page. Direct link is:
http://www.sanghainteractive.com/movement/movement_stream.html

Looks like Francois mostly played of laptop (Traktor or Ableton?).

Jernej
www.soundoflj.com/octex




Re: (313) the most heard tracks/top tunes @ Movement

2004-06-01 Thread darnistle
  It went until seven but around 5:30 this blonde
 guy came with the craziest combination of sounds and structures that was
 exactly what the moment called for. At first everyone was thinking he
 had
 destroyed his laptop/speakers etc. but it ended up being part of the
 whole
 affair. Very refreshing even if the locale was not because of the heat.

 that was Vladislav Delay (Luomo)



I was there until Luomo left the stage around 2:30 or so.  Did he play a
second set?  If so, was it more material from 'vocal city' or did he
indulge in some older treats?


(313) In the end it's our festival

2004-06-01 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight




(sorry if this is a double post - I didn't see it go the first time)

I'd say the above - but what do I know? And - even if it hasn't manifested

in your neighborhood - the economy (where it benefits first...in corporate

coffers anyway) IS doing better.

true however we did a sure fire job of scaring off Ford Motors (recall
Ford F*ckus anyone?)
so you could imagine large corporations with full coffers are a bit
skittish about sponsoring a festival where they're not sure if they are
going to hit their target market or *get hit* by their targeted market.
So if we want corporations to sponsor the festival we better put up with
more logos. Because that's what they'll want (probably).


Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to
happen
again.

How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?

Agreed - most definitely.
It's just a drag that the movers and shakers in the high places can't pony

up like they seem to do for Hoedowns, Tastefests, etc.

If the movers  shakers in high places don't see the value of the festival
- are we going to sit here and agree with them that it doesn't deserve
money and attention?
When the hell has the techno community ever relied on the people in power
to get something done?
The music and the scene has always been rather DIY so why not the
festival (at least until they wake up)?

sorry to sound like a f*cking high school cheerleader but I want to be able
to go to Movement next year and the next...

In the end it's our festival

do we want it to happen or not?

MEK

PS - I'm interested to know, how many people bought the VIP passes?



Re: (313) my personal experience at movement

2004-06-01 Thread eric trout


On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Ben Britz wrote:

 joris voorn - pretty boy plays techno. not my favorite, but ok


haha. i liked his set. some of it was a bit epic, but i was kind of
expecting that. but the song about halfway through with the really sweet
kick drum pattern and then the little vocal snip that came in(i know,
great description, but damn what great kicks) totally destroyed me. as far
as pretty boy goes...he totally made me want to grow my hair out the way
it was when i was 6. haha.

mathew jonson at the paxahau party was probably the best techno i heard
all weekend. way better than i expected, even though i was expecting a
good set. but the best thing i heard all weekend was the braid show at
saint andrews on sunday. and that was my third braid show in four days.

eric



(313) amp fiddler and tp

2004-06-01 Thread jurren baars

just spotted these on a thread on the deephousepage, and thought i'd share:

http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/amp1.zip amp fiddler live part 1
http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/amp2.zip amp fiddler live part 2
http://www.gottahavehouse.com/video/tp.zip terrence parker

hope everyone had a wonderfull time. i enjoyed the little snippets i caught 
from the webcasts.


jurren

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