Re: (313) when I grow up......
personally i think this is THE controller.its not quite out yet but will be VERY soon. The ol MXF8 check it out http://www.grexultra.com/erol.html...i think this controller will end up being used by lots of people, it really is great. so far its the best i have seen out there..but hey really its about what works for you.all i know is i am getting one when they come out michael www.renegaderhythms.com I want one of these for Ableton Live. check it out, that's some cosmic controller board. http://www.doepfer.de/controller_example_1.JPG Commander Bond, dial in channel 9 and man the joystick Righty-ho Captain Baldelli peow. does anyone know how to make these? richie hawtins and monolakes are here too http://www.doepfer.de/Controller_examples.htm I want one. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
That's Jay Dee, who is great. I think a lot of people who dislike Jay-Z are gauging him by the singles. His albums offer a lot more. You can't not hear something in You Must Love Me, Song Cry or the political missive A Ballad For The Fallen Soldier. If you ask ?uestlove of the Roots who he most loved working with, it's not Erykah Badu, Common or D'Angelo, none of them, but Jay, as apparently he was always the most hungry to learn about music and the most honest about his craft. I found that interesting. And his benign approach to the Dangermouse Grey Album episode was interesting. Anyway, I sign off there! Here is a KW connection from Detroit: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6436 If I'm not missing something, that's Jay D, hip hop producer extrodinaire, AKA Jay Dilla, collaborator w/Madlib as Jaylib, recently performed at DEMF w/him and Peanut Butter Wolf, etc - rather than Jay Z, who is not that good, and not from Detroit AFAIK. I don't mind him that much though. The rap in the Neptunes Frontin' is OK. It sounds good in the Yam Who edit at any rate. The original doesn't sound right any more! It's a pretty common mistake though. You can see why! Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
not to be confused with Jaydee /plasticdreamsbaby/ On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: That's Jay Dee, who is great. I think a lot of people who dislike Jay-Z are gauging him by the singles. His albums offer a lot more. You can't not hear something in You Must Love Me, Song Cry or the political missive A Ballad For The Fallen Soldier. If you ask ?uestlove of the Roots who he most loved working with, it's not Erykah Badu, Common or D'Angelo, none of them, but Jay, as apparently he was always the most hungry to learn about music and the most honest about his craft. I found that interesting. And his benign approach to the Dangermouse Grey Album episode was interesting. Anyway, I sign off there! Here is a KW connection from Detroit: http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6436 If I'm not missing something, that's Jay D, hip hop producer extrodinaire, AKA Jay Dilla, collaborator w/Madlib as Jaylib, recently performed at DEMF w/him and Peanut Butter Wolf, etc - rather than Jay Z, who is not that good, and not from Detroit AFAIK. I don't mind him that much though. The rap in the Neptunes Frontin' is OK. It sounds good in the Yam Who edit at any rate. The original doesn't sound right any more! It's a pretty common mistake though. You can see why! Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not to be confused with Jaydee /plasticdreamsbaby/ plastic dreams is the jam, but compared to jay dilla, the dutch jaydee is complete garbage overall. dude got lucky with one dope track. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) when I grow up......
http://www.grexultra.com/movies/assign.zip -- loops from Claude Young... unfortunately it's not actually him working the controller. - Original Message - From: Renegade808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, July 19, 2004 5:53 pm Subject: Re: (313) when I grow up.. personally i think this is THE controller.its not quite out yet but will be VERY soon. The ol MXF8 check it out http://www.grexultra.com/erol.html...i think this controller will end up being used by lots of people, it really is great. so far its the best i have seen out there..but hey really its about what works for you.all i know is i am getting one when they come out michael www.renegaderhythms.com I want one of these for Ableton Live. check it out, that's some cosmic controller board. http://www.doepfer.de/controller_example_1.JPG Commander Bond, dial in channel 9 and man the joystick Righty-ho Captain Baldelli peow. does anyone know how to make these? richie hawtins and monolakes are here too http://www.doepfer.de/Controller_examples.htm I want one. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
i do believe it's J-Dilla On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not to be confused with Jaydee /plasticdreamsbaby/ plastic dreams is the jam, but compared to jay dilla, the dutch jaydee is complete garbage overall. dude got lucky with one dope track. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) The Godson
dont get that repress. you should get the original. its got a moodymann rendition of what do you see. although the rick's version is better for the dance floor. the moodymann mix is fresh. he sets heavy on the percusion and filters the tracks to perfection. ryan burns From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Godson Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:25:15 +0100 If anyone knows where a copy of this might be found Jeff, think that might be a harder one to find. Although am I right in thinking it was also issued on UK Filth? http://www.discogs.com/release/49332 Good luck. I'll be sure to keep an eye out on my virtual travels. psst. netsounds is good for uk issue stuff. Can't wait for that still music 12 to drop. Think Mr Mcqueen might have had a lil preview on his show for download? http://www.sonicsunset.com/ (this weeks show?) Alex (saturday morning techno workaholic - you'll see what I mean in 6 months ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) The Godson
I think the Apricot version has both, but none of them can be found readily :-) jeff At 09:36 PM 7/19/2004, you wrote: dont get that repress. you should get the original. its got a moodymann rendition of what do you see. although the rick's version is better for the dance floor. the moodymann mix is fresh. he sets heavy on the percusion and filters the tracks to perfection. ryan burns
Re: (313) The Godson
-- Original Message -- From: ryan burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] dont get that repress. you should get the original. its got a moodymann rendition of what do you see. although the rick's version is better for the dance floor. the moodymann mix is fresh. he sets heavy on the percusion and filters the tracks to perfection. finding the original soul edge now is bordering on impossible. i havent even seen one on ebay or gemm. my filth version i lucked out on getting, and im happy with that until an original falls into my lap : ) tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
im not sure if you question can be answered by what the track is based around. Maurizio has many different styles from deep to aggressive. the tracks sounds like the first phillips track and the Lyot mix on BC. the UR mix and the inner cut on the record are my favorites. while we are on the topic of spotting, Kenny Larkin came to town this weekend and i could only figure out about 3 or 4 records in the whole set!!!??? anyone know what he has been playing lately? burns From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Spotters Quiz Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 14:19:13 +0100 OK folks, fingers on the buzzers. Round One On the first Maurizio record (Ploy?), on Maurizio's mix, What is the artist/title of the track that it is based around? I'm guessing it's AshRa/Schulze/Gottsching or some other cosmic shenanigans. Anyone know? I have no idea and could do with finding out. Winner wins something. Many Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: (313) The Godson
dont get that repress. you should get the original. its got a moodymann rendition of what do you see. although the rick's version is better for the dance floor. the moodymann mix is fresh. he sets heavy on the percusion and filters the tracks to perfection. ryan burns OK, that made *my* ears stand up straight like an Alsation's. So you're saying that that edition isn't extremely hard to come by? One of the best Rick Wilhite tracks I don't own ... k
Re: (313) Sunday afternoon deathbed question
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(313) interesting pretentious music article
http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html i find myself relating to both sides of this guy's argument. in alot of ways i find the old way of doing things to be superior. i also find the ability of electronic music to allow a single composer to also be a performer, arranger, engineer, etc at the same time to be the most important musical development since jazz. basically, i agree with his whole argument up to a point. his theory on the use of vocoders is absolute garbage, even someone who has heard kraftwerk once can attest to that. i think his choice of electronic musicians that are good belies his predjudice in writing this: jimi hendrix and stevie wonder stick out of an otherwise extremely pretentios group of mostly white artsy musicians. the man doesnt understand the primal greatness of techno and house music. most outstandingly annoying to me are his words of praise for brian eno. i love brian eno, i consider him to be one of my musical heroes. however, chalking up his success with nontraditional structure and composition with electronic instruments to his theory alone is missing the whole point of his music. i know eno cared about the philosophy, this is why he put explanations of his ambient pieces in the liner notes. the fact that his music exudes mood and texture is the real reason for his brilliance. these are some of the points i liked the most from this article: Computers have cracked open a plethora of fresh new noises, but we scarcely have time to grow accustomed to using one when another comes along to make its predecessor outdated. Too few know how to program a drum machine well, too few recognize unpalatable digital slickness for what it is. that really sums up the best parts of his argument. however, i dont think that most electronic music is guilty of this. if anything, people have accused some techno and house of stagnation because of the reliance on the old roland boxes and minimoogs. IDM wasnt guilty of this initially, they utilized most of the same gear and sounds. now, it, progressive house, drummy techno, and drum and bass are the most guilty of pretty much every accusation this guy has against electronic music. music is reduced to a cool sound, one that doesnt last long before the new sound comes along. part of old school techno and house's appeal to me is its rawness, the bad tape edits, the crap pressings of trax records, the primitive programming of the generally low end electronic instruments. see, these instruments dont force people into this perfection that alot of electronic music has boxed itself into. the mainstream attitude does: liking these ultra-pristine forms of music is more akin to liking bad pop music. the dirty old techno house idm and jungle is more like punk rock, its more about the expression and not the sound. yeah, lets argue about this for a while. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) interesting pretentious music article
another clueless article theorising about electronic dance music without even considering dancing. hamlet without the prince. the author makes claims: robots cannot make better our music because they have nothing to say. he's just can't hear what the robots are saying, - set your body free. james www.jbucknell.com Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To h.com313@hyperreal.org cc 20/07/04 06:39 AM Subject (313) interesting pretentious music Please respond to article [EMAIL PROTECTED] h.com http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html i find myself relating to both sides of this guy's argument. in alot of ways i find the old way of doing things to be superior. i also find the ability of electronic music to allow a single composer to also be a performer, arranger, engineer, etc at the same time to be the most important musical development since jazz. basically, i agree with his whole argument up to a point. his theory on the use of vocoders is absolute garbage, even someone who has heard kraftwerk once can attest to that. i think his choice of electronic musicians that are good belies his predjudice in writing this: jimi hendrix and stevie wonder stick out of an otherwise extremely pretentios group of mostly white artsy musicians. the man doesnt understand the primal greatness of techno and house music. most outstandingly annoying to me are his words of praise for brian eno. i love brian eno, i consider him to be one of my musical heroes. however, chalking up his success with nontraditional structure and composition with electronic instruments to his theory alone is missing the whole point of his music. i know eno cared about the philosophy, this is why he put explanations of his ambient pieces in the liner notes. the fact that his music exudes mood and texture is the real reason for his brilliance. these are some of the points i liked the most from this article: Computers have cracked open a plethora of fresh new noises, but we scarcely have time to grow accustomed to using one when another comes along to make its predecessor outdated. Too few know how to program a drum machine well, too few recognize unpalatable digital slickness for what it is. that really sums up the best parts of his argument. however, i dont think that most electronic music is guilty of this. if anything, people have accused some techno and house of stagnation because of the reliance on the old roland boxes and minimoogs. IDM wasnt guilty of this initially, they utilized most of the same gear and sounds. now, it, progressive house, drummy techno, and drum and bass are the most guilty of pretty much every accusation this guy has against electronic music. music is reduced to a cool sound, one that doesnt last long before the new sound comes along. part of old school techno and house's appeal to me is its rawness, the bad tape edits, the crap pressings of trax records, the primitive programming of the generally low end electronic instruments. see, these instruments dont force people into this perfection that alot of electronic music has boxed itself into. the mainstream attitude does: liking these ultra-pristine forms of music is more akin to liking bad pop music. the dirty old techno house idm and jungle is more like punk rock, its more about the expression and not the sound. yeah, lets argue about this for a while. tom andythepooh.com ForwardSourceID:NTFD0A
Re: (313) interesting pretentious music article
.. i'm really in love with sound - and working on it means more possibilities of expression - i know of and adore this primitive beauty of raw, dirty and rough sound, yet its just a single shade of the infinite spectrum /z99 ~~~ it was 20.07.2004 when u've been going like this -= :: that really sums up the best parts of his argument. however, i :: dont think that most electronic music is guilty of this. if :: anything, people have accused some techno and house of stagnation :: because of the reliance on the old roland boxes and minimoogs. IDM :: wasnt guilty of this initially, they utilized most of the same :: gear and sounds. now, it, progressive house, drummy techno, and :: drum and bass are the most guilty of pretty much every accusation :: this guy has against electronic music. music is reduced to a cool :: sound, one that doesnt last long before the new sound comes :: along. part of old school techno and house's appeal to me is its :: rawness, the bad tape edits, the crap pressings of trax records, :: the primitive programming of the generally low end electronic :: instruments. see, these instruments dont force people into :: this perfection that alot of electronic music has boxed itself :: into. the mainstream attitude does: liking these ultra-pristine :: forms of music is more akin to liking bad pop music. the dirty old :: techno house idm and jungle is more like punk rock, its more about :: the expression and not the sound. :: yeah, lets argue about this for a while. :: tom :: :: andythepooh.com ~~~
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
im not sure if you question can be answered by what the track is based around. Maurizio has many different styles from deep to aggressive. the tracks sounds like the first phillips track and the Lyot mix on BC. the UR mix and the inner cut on the record are my favorites. Not sure what you mean Ryan. I was asking if anyone knew the track Maurizio sampled for Ploy. Tristan asked if I was deffo sure it was a sample. Not 100%, but I heard a track recently with same riff, and because it's by who it's by, I know he hasn't sampled Maurizio, and therefore I assume that they have both sampled the same source. But I need to find out. Thanks v.much to the guy who pointed me to the ashra mp3's. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
(313) Parliament
By a total stroke of luck, I saw Parliament last night. hmm, just sitting at my desk at work. I figure the stage on which they played is no more than 200 metres from my desk. They were good! Pretty cabaret, lots of different styles of music rotating around, at least 18 people in the band. Everytime I tried to count, seemed like someone would pop up from behind the speakers blowing a horn or something. Didn't recognise anyone in the band really, although I saw Bernie Worrall. Seemed like they were all pretty tight though. George looked like a psychadelic scouser, with multi coloured hair and a shell-suit on. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
the ploy track must be a sample, i agree! but i dont know for the life of me which ashra it is... found a bit which sounds too much like crackdown in ashra´s new age of earth album and some other familiar moments from the 313 era, will mention names once ive discovered which ones they are...and parliament rocks! trainspottingly yours, 154 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 20 juli 2004 10:41 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz im not sure if you question can be answered by what the track is based around. Maurizio has many different styles from deep to aggressive. the tracks sounds like the first phillips track and the Lyot mix on BC. the UR mix and the inner cut on the record are my favorites. Not sure what you mean Ryan. I was asking if anyone knew the track Maurizio sampled for Ploy. Tristan asked if I was deffo sure it was a sample. Not 100%, but I heard a track recently with same riff, and because it's by who it's by, I know he hasn't sampled Maurizio, and therefore I assume that they have both sampled the same source. But I need to find out. Thanks v.much to the guy who pointed me to the ashra mp3's. Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
some other familiar moments from the 313 era I think Moritz/Mark and Carl Craig between them plundered Gottsching to death from what I can tell. Far deeper into it than I thought. I'm lost in the world of Die Kosmichen Couriere and I can't get out till I find that sample. Help me. (p.s. Jochem, if you come across it in your cosmic travels, let me know) There's just so many LP's to check out, and thats probably a 3 second bit in one of them. Needle in haystack springs to mind. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
oh a right classic that is. *adds to evergrowing list of Detroit classics never played outever* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz some other familiar moments from the 313 era I think Moritz/Mark and Carl Craig between them plundered Gottsching to death from what I can tell. Far deeper into it than I thought. I'm lost in the world of Die Kosmichen Couriere and I can't get out till I find that sample. Help me. (p.s. Jochem, if you come across it in your cosmic travels, let me know) There's just so many LP's to check out, and thats probably a 3 second bit in one of them. Needle in haystack springs to mind. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
Tobyoh a right classic that is. this one? Die Kosmichen Couriere It's a record label. Name plundered by Moritz, Juan and friends for said tresor track. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
Who is on the label? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:19 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz Tobyoh a right classic that is. this one? Die Kosmichen Couriere It's a record label. Name plundered by Moritz, Juan and friends for said tresor track. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
i need a good discography of the gottsching stuff, specially his collabo´s.. did he doe other stuff with kraftwerk besides that die domina´s? that wespendomina-track is one of my best finds in years... that 10 is one that i must find. i cant live with just mp3´s... one thing i did find is that its the ashra stuff you want, not the ashra temple stuff... ashra is the synth-shit -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 20 juli 2004 11:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz oh a right classic that is. *adds to evergrowing list of Detroit classics never played outever* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz some other familiar moments from the 313 era I think Moritz/Mark and Carl Craig between them plundered Gottsching to death from what I can tell. Far deeper into it than I thought. I'm lost in the world of Die Kosmichen Couriere and I can't get out till I find that sample. Help me. (p.s. Jochem, if you come across it in your cosmic travels, let me know) There's just so many LP's to check out, and thats probably a 3 second bit in one of them. Needle in haystack springs to mind. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
Kraftwerk? I'm sure he never collaborated with them, even in their v.early Organisation days. -Original Message- From: Peteri, Jochem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:23 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz i need a good discography of the gottsching stuff, specially his collabo´s.. did he doe other stuff with kraftwerk besides that die domina´s? that wespendomina-track is one of my best finds in years... that 10 is one that i must find. i cant live with just mp3´s... one thing i did find is that its the ashra stuff you want, not the ashra temple stuff... ashra is the synth-shit -Original Message- From: Toby Frith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 20 juli 2004 11:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz oh a right classic that is. *adds to evergrowing list of Detroit classics never played outever* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz some other familiar moments from the 313 era I think Moritz/Mark and Carl Craig between them plundered Gottsching to death from what I can tell. Far deeper into it than I thought. I'm lost in the world of Die Kosmichen Couriere and I can't get out till I find that sample. Help me. (p.s. Jochem, if you come across it in your cosmic travels, let me know) There's just so many LP's to check out, and thats probably a 3 second bit in one of them. Needle in haystack springs to mind. Thanks Alex _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
Who is on the label? Real techno pioneers. ; ) Pay attention at the back. Hang on, hang on. Think I'm right with that. Best check before I make myself look stupid. Think it was division or german name for cosmic music label. Seek and ye shall find. p.s. Toby, check who did the cover for this record. http://www.ashra.com/disco/5811do.htm friends of yours? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
Jochem http://www.ashra.com/disco/welcome.htm ta-da. p.s. I'm digging the temple vibe too. I blame my dad. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Spotters Quiz
i've found this in french: http://neospheres.free.fr/kraut/kosmische.htm so Timothy Leary had an involvement in the start of disco (via Mancuso) and he also had an influence on 70's electronics via this lot. interesting robin... On 20 Jul 2004, at 10:20, Toby Frith wrote: Die Kosmichen Courier
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I'm sure he never collaborated with them, even in their v.early Organisation days. check the tracklist.. Die Dominas 10 I bin a Domina 16:53 Herr Ralfi und Herr Karl 02:55 Die Wespendomina 05:56 Well, whaddya know? You clocked they did the cover right? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Bloody hippies, they get everywhere! ;) Popol Vuh are well worth checking out as well. Didn't know that they were on this label. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:30 To: Toby Frith Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) Spotters Quiz i've found this in french: http://neospheres.free.fr/kraut/kosmische.htm so Timothy Leary had an involvement in the start of disco (via Mancuso) and he also had an influence on 70's electronics via this lot. interesting robin... On 20 Jul 2004, at 10:20, Toby Frith wrote: Die Kosmichen Courier
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so does anyone have this track? As an enormous Kraftwerk hed, I have to hear it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz I'm sure he never collaborated with them, even in their v.early Organisation days. check the tracklist.. Die Dominas 10 I bin a Domina 16:53 Herr Ralfi und Herr Karl 02:55 Die Wespendomina 05:56 Well, whaddya know? You clocked they did the cover right? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:33:42AM +0100, Toby Frith wrote: so does anyone have this track? As an enormous Kraftwerk hed, I have to hear it. From http://kraftwerk.hu/faq/related-projects.html#dominas Were Ralf and Florian behind the group 'Die Dominas'? No, but Ralf H?tter and Karl Bartos did inspire the 10 mini-LP Ich bin a Domina, for which they wrote two chords and designed the sleeve! Here's part of a magazine interview with Ash Ra Temple's Manuel Gottsching (taken from 'Dreams World', issue 11). 'Die Dominas' were two old friends of mine. They are my long time friend Rosi, who also performed on some Ash Ra Tempel records (...) and Claudia Skoda for whose fashion shows I have been composing and performing most of the music since 1976. They knew KW from D?sseldorf because they often went there together for fashion fairs. Ralf H. and Karl B. wrote down two special chords for them on a piece of paper: the sub Domina and the Domina seven (Domina = dominant) chords. Later in Berlin they were asking me to show them how these chords sounded. So, one evening when we were doing a nice long session together in my studio, I played them these chords. I explained a little about the instruments in the studio, and they started experimenting with them, without knowing that I was already recording the session! It was really a hilarious session, and the voices sounded like we were having a party. The next day, I started re-mixing the material, and finally got three titles out of it! Claudia and Rosi were so impressed with the result they played it to Ralf and Karl. They were so taken by the recording they offered to make the cover for the album. It turned out to be a very nice cover that looked like a silhouette in black and yellow. Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz I'm sure he never collaborated with them, even in their v.early Organisation days. check the tracklist.. Die Dominas 10 I bin a Domina 16:53 Herr Ralfi und Herr Karl 02:55 Die Wespendomina 05:56 Well, whaddya know? You clocked they did the cover right? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
so does anyone have this track? As an enormous Kraftwerk hed, I have to hear it. You have to pay your cosmic subscription fees. One bag mushrooms. One Elf. One mystical magical midget. One bottle liquid acid. (a year) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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Hey thanks Hans. Been looking for info about this for ages, to post to the list. Good tuesday trivia huh?! More tuesday trivia later pop pickers. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
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typically Kraftwerk then... two chords. -Original Message- From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:38 To: Toby Frith Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Spotters Quiz On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:33:42AM +0100, Toby Frith wrote: so does anyone have this track? As an enormous Kraftwerk hed, I have to hear it. From http://kraftwerk.hu/faq/related-projects.html#dominas Were Ralf and Florian behind the group 'Die Dominas'? No, but Ralf Hütter and Karl Bartos did inspire the 10 mini-LP Ich bin a Domina, for which they wrote two chords and designed the sleeve! Here's part of a magazine interview with Ash Ra Temple's Manuel Gottsching (taken from 'Dreams World', issue 11). 'Die Dominas' were two old friends of mine. They are my long time friend Rosi, who also performed on some Ash Ra Tempel records (...) and Claudia Skoda for whose fashion shows I have been composing and performing most of the music since 1976. They knew KW from Düsseldorf because they often went there together for fashion fairs. Ralf H. and Karl B. wrote down two special chords for them on a piece of paper: the sub Domina and the Domina seven (Domina = dominant) chords. Later in Berlin they were asking me to show them how these chords sounded. So, one evening when we were doing a nice long session together in my studio, I played them these chords. I explained a little about the instruments in the studio, and they started experimenting with them, without knowing that I was already recording the session! It was really a hilarious session, and the voices sounded like we were having a party. The next day, I started re-mixing the material, and finally got three titles out of it! Claudia and Rosi were so impressed with the result they played it to Ralf and Karl. They were so taken by the recording they offered to make the cover for the album. It turned out to be a very nice cover that looked like a silhouette in black and yellow. Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 10:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz I'm sure he never collaborated with them, even in their v.early Organisation days. check the tracklist.. Die Dominas 10 I bin a Domina 16:53 Herr Ralfi und Herr Karl 02:55 Die Wespendomina 05:56 Well, whaddya know? You clocked they did the cover right? _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
(313) Tuesday Trivia
Aha. Bet you all thought I'd forgotten. I can hear the virtual groan from here. Anyway, in this weekly section I bring you rubbish cut and pasted from the internet. This weeks subject is Manchester's own Factory records. Loads of stuff to check out, check the menu on the left. Some ace 'artefacts', old posters and flyers, all the bands etc. Good stuff. http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/index.html _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) when I grow up......
Has anyone tried an Evolution X-Session? It has knobs and buttons and a crossfader. -- yeah i've got one of these. when you get deeper in to Ableton Live tho you see that it's not really enough to be properly in control of the sound being played. its a good start though as the crossfader is a nice feature (thought an adjustable curve in software or on the device would be good) and it's super cheap too. robin...
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martin mentined this device a while back. i think you mentioned that a review was on the way. that would be cool robin... On 19 Jul 2004, at 23:53, Renegade808 wrote: personally i think this is THE controller.its not quite out yet but will be VERY soon. The ol MXF8 check it out http://www.grexultra.com/erol.html...i think this controller will end up being used by lots of people, it really is great. so far its the best i have seen out there..but hey really its about what works for you.all i know is i am getting one when they come out
RE: (313) Trevor Horn Fans Rejoice
the dutch jaydee is complete garbage overall. dude got lucky with one dope track. Well what you're saying about Robin Albers (think that was his name ) might be true overall (I don't know enough about this) but I certainly liked the one he did after Plastic Dreams, Music Is So Special though admittedly I liked it more before I realised how T-Connection based it was!
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
OK here's some questions some of which I might answer myself if only I could wait till I got home but since I've actually got into work today and found no-one waiting at my office door to bug me I'm gonna waste you's lots time instead: BTW - Ploy is deffo the first Maurizio record. fair enough but wasn't there another really mad acidy one from round the same time? Tried looking at Discogs for an answer but only end up with more questions: all the best known M records are listed there loads appearing on comps but there's some I'm less familiar with TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers!
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different maurizio, thank god... how many old maurizio productions are on tresor btw? i have one blake baxter he did, but i think there must be more.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 20 juli 2004 12:55 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz OK here's some questions some of which I might answer myself if only I could wait till I got home but since I've actually got into work today and found no-one waiting at my office door to bug me I'm gonna waste you's lots time instead: BTW - Ploy is deffo the first Maurizio record. fair enough but wasn't there another really mad acidy one from round the same time? Tried looking at Discogs for an answer but only end up with more questions: all the best known M records are listed there loads appearing on comps but there's some I'm less familiar with TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
TT/FF is the really really slow menacing one on that comp There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates and playing percussion on an Erasure album, as well as producing and engineering for Holger Hiller - though I think it's the same Moritz TBH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:55 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
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all those 3M things, right? So with Eddie and Juan as well. I thought? Which day is today? === Nomorewords.net Bentinckstraat 66-2 1051 GN, Amsterdam The Netherlands http://nomorewords.net phn/fax +31-20-486-9624 - Original Message - From: Peteri, Jochem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz different maurizio, thank god... how many old maurizio productions are on tresor btw? i have one blake baxter he did, but i think there must be more.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 20 juli 2004 12:55 To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz OK here's some questions some of which I might answer myself if only I could wait till I got home but since I've actually got into work today and found no-one waiting at my office door to bug me I'm gonna waste you's lots time instead: BTW - Ploy is deffo the first Maurizio record. fair enough but wasn't there another really mad acidy one from round the same time? Tried looking at Discogs for an answer but only end up with more questions: all the best known M records are listed there loads appearing on comps but there's some I'm less familiar with TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! The information contained in this e-mail communication is solely intended for the person/legal person to whom it has been sent, and as it may contain information of a personal or confidential nature, it may not be made public by virtue of law, regulations or agreement. If someone other than the intended recipient should receive or come into possession of this e-mail communication, he/she will not be entitled to read, disseminate, disclose or duplicate it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are requested to inform the sender of this e-mail message of this immediately, and to destroy the original e-mail communication. Neither Randstad Holding nv nor its subsidiaries accept any liability for incorrect and incomplete transmission or delayed receipt of this e-mail.
Re: (313) Spotters Quiz
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: TT/FF is the really really slow menacing one on that comp There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates and playing percussion on an Erasure album, as well as producing and engineering for Holger Hiller - though I think it's the same Moritz TBH Yes, that's the same one i think. MvO used to be the drummer for Palais Schaumburg, of which Thomas Fehlmann and Holger Hiller also were members... Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:55 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
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Wasn't he also in Fischerman's Friend? -Original Message- From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) Spotters Quiz On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: TT/FF is the really really slow menacing one on that comp There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates and playing percussion on an Erasure album, as well as producing and engineering for Holger Hiller - though I think it's the same Moritz TBH Yes, that's the same one i think. MvO used to be the drummer for Palais Schaumburg, of which Thomas Fehlmann and Holger Hiller also were members Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:55 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Spotters Quiz
There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates Think it's the same one. (think) hadn't heard the erasure one before, or the Holger/Hiller one either. you learn something new every day. fair enough but wasn't there another really mad acidy one from round the same time? (re first maurizio record) don't think so Francis,but not 100% sure. Or maybe you're referring to the same record pressed on the orb's label with an orb mix which jochem just told me about? Basic Channel 1 wasn't far behind. Not thinking of that are you? Thats a hard, mad record. Oh, and top Maurizio trivia, (which I never knew till a while ago) Maurizio is the name of the project, and is both Mark and Moritz. I always assumed Maurizio was just one guy, Moritz. I love being a spotter. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) Spotters Quiz
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:08:09PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: Wasn't he also in Fischerman's Friend? No, i think Fehlmann only produced them or something. According to Discogs they are different people: Max Loderbauer, Stefan Fischer, Tom Thiel. http://www.discogs.com/artist/Fischermans+Friend Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) Spotters Quiz On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: TT/FF is the really really slow menacing one on that comp There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates and playing percussion on an Erasure album, as well as producing and engineering for Holger Hiller - though I think it's the same Moritz TBH Yes, that's the same one i think. MvO used to be the drummer for Palais Schaumburg, of which Thomas Fehlmann and Holger Hiller also were members Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:55 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
Re: (313) Spotters Quiz
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:17:11PM +0200, Hans Veneman wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:08:09PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: Wasn't he also in Fischerman's Friend? No, i think Fehlmann only produced them or something. According to Discogs they are different people: Max Loderbauer, Stefan Fischer, Tom Thiel. Which is Sun Electric + 1 i now realise :) Hans -Original Message- From: Hans Veneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Taylor Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: Re: (313) Spotters Quiz On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 12:01:57PM -, Robert Taylor wrote: TT/FF is the really really slow menacing one on that comp There might very well be another Moritz Von Oswald, cos he used to be listed on Allmusic as drumming for The Associates and playing percussion on an Erasure album, as well as producing and engineering for Holger Hiller - though I think it's the same Moritz TBH Yes, that's the same one i think. MvO used to be the drummer for Palais Schaumburg, of which Thomas Fehlmann and Holger Hiller also were members Cheers, Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 10:55 AM To: 313@Hyperreal.Org Subject: RE: (313) Spotters Quiz TT/FF of Tresor II - I've got this but can't remember how it goes! and most intriguing (but bound to turn out to be a misprint of M6?) Maurizio MG (Version) plus some unknown (to me) mixes: Moving On (Mix Master Dub) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Moving On (Voice Of The Underground) Featuring - Charle' Bishop Remix - Costantino 'Mixmaster' Padovano , Maurizio Hustlers Convention Turn It Up (Maurizio Mix) (6:04) Remix - Maurizio Hamburgher Party (Latino House) - Maurizio Ketch-Up Version Remix - Maurizio I guess although these are listed on the page for Moritz Von Oswald it's possible it could be a different Maurizio? These things aren't always right on Discogs, I recently bought some G-Man (who ever wanted their ashes pressed into Avanti, I'm with you!) records off Gemm that were listed on Gez Varley's Discogs page but turned out not to be by him. So what does anyone know? Guess this post could have come under Tuesday Trivia. And no it hasn't taken me all morning to write somebody turned up at my door 5 mins after I started it and I've only just finished it now before I have to leave my office for today so I'll have to till tomorrow to see your answers! # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated.. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. # -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net -- Hans Veneman http://technotourist.org http://vlokfeest.net
Re: (313) Spotters Quiz
I thought I'd try to be helpful but failed. This company spalax music re-issues all the gottsching/schulze/cosmic jokers/etc stuff. I tried to find a website, but couldn't. The ever excellent piccadilly stocks a few though. do a search for 'spalax' and they appear. www.piccadillyrecords.com _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
Re: (313) interesting pretentious music article
Oh gawd. Adorno: call your office. There are a lot of problems with this guy's argument, the first of which is that he's pretty much re-hashed the elitist cultural critique of a writer (Adorno) who has been shown to be very intolerant towards any form of popular music--and particularly repetitive kinds. This guy tosses around phrases such as Music is a language or Great Music without really thinking about the consequences of his logic. Thomas was right to point out the mostly white, Euro/American bourgeois genealogy of composers/artists that are Great. A lot of these anti-pop, anti-technology, nostalgia-for-the-good-old-days sort of arguments have a tendency to indirectly re-support the idea that music associated with other genders, races, sexualities, etc. are somehow inferior. poop! Luis Toronto --- Chicago (Fall) On Tuesday, July 20, 2004, at 01:39 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html
RE: (313) interesting pretentious music article
Applause! k Oh gawd. Adorno: call your office. There are a lot of problems with this guy's argument, the first of which is that he's pretty much re-hashed the elitist cultural critique of a writer (Adorno) who has been shown to be very intolerant towards any form of popular music--and particularly repetitive kinds. This guy tosses around phrases such as Music is a language or Great Music without really thinking about the consequences of his logic. Thomas was right to point out the mostly white, Euro/American bourgeois genealogy of composers/artists that are Great. A lot of these anti-pop, anti-technology, nostalgia-for-the-good-old-days sort of arguments have a tendency to indirectly re-support the idea that music associated with other genders, races, sexualities, etc. are somehow inferior. poop! Luis Toronto --- Chicago (Fall) http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html
RE: (313) interesting pretentious music article
Whilst his book on the Beatles is a fantastic text, the late Iain MacDonald was also guilty of this sadly. His Peoples Music essays book that was published shortly before his death is full of this similar thinking. A frustrating read, as it appears that he had some phenomenal ideas on music, but was not prepared to sail on the back of future technology and be prepared to criticise what had gone before, and see where it took him. -Original Message- From: Ken Odeluga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 July 2004 15:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org Subject: RE: (313) interesting pretentious music article Applause! k Oh gawd. Adorno: call your office. There are a lot of problems with this guy's argument, the first of which is that he's pretty much re-hashed the elitist cultural critique of a writer (Adorno) who has been shown to be very intolerant towards any form of popular music--and particularly repetitive kinds. This guy tosses around phrases such as Music is a language or Great Music without really thinking about the consequences of his logic. Thomas was right to point out the mostly white, Euro/American bourgeois genealogy of composers/artists that are Great. A lot of these anti-pop, anti-technology, nostalgia-for-the-good-old-days sort of arguments have a tendency to indirectly re-support the idea that music associated with other genders, races, sexualities, etc. are somehow inferior. poop! Luis Toronto --- Chicago (Fall) http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html
(313) Alexander Robotnick Interview
does what it says on the tin. http://www.trustthedj.com/SKRUFFF/news_article.php?news_id=2787 _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring
RE: (313) Alexander Robotnick Interview
thanks for the link. i waited 20 years to see this man, and it was totally worth it. anyone know if the detroit show was recorded? ani
Re: (313) interesting pretentious music article
Consequently, placing certain restraints on how we use our musical tools is just common sense. Ugh. Gimme a break. . I might be able to take this person's arguments seriously if he made better connections and backed them up with things other than sloppy academic and pop culture references. This article seems like an exercise in masterbation unachieved - like you know it could have been really awesome, but it just ... wasn't. LOL! Growl. lisa - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:39 am Subject: (313) interesting pretentious music article http://www.furious.com/perfect/technologytrap.html i find myself relating to both sides of this guy's argument. in alot of ways i find the old way of doing things to be superior. i also find the ability of electronic music to allow a single composer to also be a performer, arranger, engineer, etc at the same time to be the most important musical development since jazz. basically, i agree with his whole argument up to a point. his theory on the use of vocoders is absolute garbage, even someone who has heard kraftwerk once can attest to that. i think his choice of electronic musicians that are good belies his predjudice in writing this: jimi hendrix and stevie wonder stick out of an otherwise extremely pretentios group of mostly white artsy musicians. the man doesnt understand the primal greatness of techno and house music. most outstandingly annoying to me are his words of praise for brian eno. i love brian eno, i consider him to be one of my musical heroes. however, chalking up his success with nontraditional structure and composition with electronic instruments to his theory alone is missing the whole point of his music. i know eno cared about the philosophy, this is why he put explanations of his ambient pieces in the liner notes. the fact that his music exudes mood and texture is the real reason for his brilliance. these are some of the points i liked the most from this article: Computers have cracked open a plethora of fresh new noises, but we scarcely have time to grow accustomed to using one when another comes along to make its predecessor outdated. Too few know how to program a drum machine well, too few recognize unpalatable digital slickness for what it is. that really sums up the best parts of his argument. however, i dont think that most electronic music is guilty of this. if anything, people have accused some techno and house of stagnation because of the reliance on the old roland boxes and minimoogs. IDM wasnt guilty of this initially, they utilized most of the same gear and sounds. now, it, progressive house, drummy techno, and drum and bass are the most guilty of pretty much every accusation this guy has against electronic music. music is reduced to a cool sound, one that doesnt last long before the new sound comes along. part of old school techno and house's appeal to me is its rawness, the bad tape edits, the crap pressings of trax records, the primitive programming of the generally low end electronic instruments. see, these instruments dont force people into this perfection that alot of electronic music has boxed itself into. the mainstream attitude does: liking these ultra-pristine forms of music is more akin to liking bad pop music. the dirty old techno house idm and jungle is more like punk rock, its more about the expression and not the sound. yeah, lets argue about this for a while. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Sunday afternoon deathbed question
very slow day at the magazine. and i was just looking for some light-weight badmitton level confrontation, hence keeping it on the list. sorry On Mon, 19 Jul 2004, diana potts wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure I lost some 'cool' points by the second line. diana but your pretention points shot right through the roof. Too cool for techno, psh. uh..you just won a bunch of assumption points. _that_ slow of a day at the magazine? next time you wanna start a battle worth fidy dollahs worth of puddin' ...take it private.psh. __ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/
(313) (OT) NPR broadcast worth listening to IMHO
A while ago I enthusiastically posted that I saw Chris ORiley in concert. He's a classical pianist that transcribes Nick Drake, Radiohead and the Beatles to classical piano. I found his NPR broadcast..something gentile for work. http://www.npr.org/programs/pt/4a/oriley.html enjoy d __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: (313) Sunday afternoon deathbed question
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: very slow day at the magazine. and i was just looking for some light-weight badmitton level confrontation, hence keeping it on the list. The Hundred-Years-War started out as a badminton game, true story. - Brian balistic Prince http://www.bprince.com - art and techno
(313) Scottish record labels
Driving back from the Kenny Larkin show in Iowa, Drew and I got talking about Scottish record labels. I mentioned the last time I was in Glasgow I could find loads of great Chicago house records but couldn't find any Glasgow ones (granted I was in the wrong shop for that) During the conversation I mentioned Soma and Glasgow Underground were/are decent... and then my mind went blank and I couldn't think of anymore. Most likely from the lack of sleep all weekend. So - if you've got a name to add to the list below it'd be appreciated I don't care if the label is still around or not - also if you want to name good Scottish artists we could split this thread into two parts Soma Glasgow Underground
Re: (313) Scottish record labels
Bio/Headspace/Emoticon/7th sign/Iridite spring to mind - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: (313) Scottish record labels Driving back from the Kenny Larkin show in Iowa, Drew and I got talking about Scottish record labels. I mentioned the last time I was in Glasgow I could find loads of great Chicago house records but couldn't find any Glasgow ones (granted I was in the wrong shop for that) During the conversation I mentioned Soma and Glasgow Underground were/are decent... and then my mind went blank and I couldn't think of anymore. Most likely from the lack of sleep all weekend. So - if you've got a name to add to the list below it'd be appreciated I don't care if the label is still around or not - also if you want to name good Scottish artists we could split this thread into two parts Soma Glasgow Underground
Re: (313) Scottish record labels
Not sure if Affected is Scottish but Stephen Brown is doing some excellent work at the moment, so is Vince Watson... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: Re: (313) Scottish record labels god, of course - my head is still clogged obviously Martin Dust [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Subject: Re: (313) Scottish record labels 07/20/04 05:00 PM Please respond to Martin Dust Bio/Headspace/Emoticon/7th sign/Iridite spring to mind - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: (313) Scottish record labels Driving back from the Kenny Larkin show in Iowa, Drew and I got talking about Scottish record labels. I mentioned the last time I was in Glasgow I could find loads of great Chicago house records but couldn't find any Glasgow ones (granted I was in the wrong shop for that) During the conversation I mentioned Soma and Glasgow Underground were/are decent... and then my mind went blank and I couldn't think of anymore. Most likely from the lack of sleep all weekend. So - if you've got a name to add to the list below it'd be appreciated I don't care if the label is still around or not - also if you want to name good Scottish artists we could split this thread into two parts Soma Glasgow Underground
