(313) pre-announcement
friday 22nd of October Delsin / Ann Aimee night Amsterdam Dance Event live: Dynarec Lucky&Easy dj's: Newworldaquarium Peel Seamus Wilhelmina Pakhuis Amsterdam 5 euro ps. 10th aniversary of whatever, or whatever aniversary is very welcome
(313) Techno Geography
Friends, I think all of this talk on geography and how it affects our productivity/ involvement/ opportunities as producers, djs, artists, fans etc. is a key topic. It matters, and it does not matter. First, I must quote The Pet Shop Boys... "...there's a lot of opportunities, if there are'nt you can make them..." I've been very tempted to move to Detroit. However, after questioning my motivations, I see that by doing so, I am only chasing myths and ghosts of what I think a "Detroit" experience "should" be. I can say that the few times I have visited, I have been completely blown away: the sincere people, Detroit's love of ALL music, Detroit's freakishness...and of course all of the incredible artists that populate that city, in their varied mediums, not just techno music. I'm talking photgrapy, advertising, graphic design, political thought, journalism. Detroit Rock City! Godamn it! I really think you are born into it and must have it in your blood and veins. I am happy with the idea that it CANNOT be transplated by a simple change of geography. (Apply to your dream city/ situation of choice) Great teachers want their disciples to spread the word, set up their own churches, communes, record labels, clubs, 'zines...etc. Detoit is the teacher. I guess it depends on what you are doing. I have found that more easy going evirons fuel my creativity, as a producer. I can riff and ramble on this a lot more. My head hurts right now. Peace, Louis
(313) Moving
It's a matter of degrees, ain't it? If you were born in Vernon, FL and happened to cultivate an interest in Detroit techno, do you think there'd be a chance in hell you could evangelize about it there? We had some success doing it in Iowa City (a city of less than 100,000), and thankfully some people like Kent keep making it happen for those who can't get out. But I don't see how anyone who wants to leave an insular place for a cosmopolitan one can be seen as a scene-deserter. Sometimes it's more important to enjoy life on your own terms (musical and otherwise), than it is to stay put somewhere, fighting for the good of a scene that shows little promise. Not everywhere can satisfy everyone and no one moves purely for the musical benefits, even if they may be a primary motivator. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Hey nowPortland is that boring! We got Techno going on...it's no Detroit, but trust me those guys that like to "get to where things are hot" like coming to Portland.. Ask anyone we've brought out, they are appreciated and they LOVE to come back! ~E BTW.. there's a city called Boring Oregon.. it's in the sticks.. and is a bit boring though. Robert Taylor wrote: That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Hey Don't knock Boring, Oregon (yes it's a real city in Oregon) unless you've been there. It's got some great swimming holes. I have to say that Model 500's Time Space Tranmat song, sounds just as good out there, as it does in the inner city :) Too me , Techno is a people thing, not a city thing or a big city thing. It's about many things, among them deprogramming the programming. People in Boring as well as Portland, Berlin, NY, Detroit, etc... need deprogramming just as much or more then those city folks. I think one should do techno(what ever do techno is to you) no matter where one is. I don't stop enjoying Techno any less up in on Mount Hood then I do in a dirty warehouse. Actually many times, I enjoy it more. Cheers... Dave > That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. > So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno > City? > Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? > > > -Original Message- > From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. >> >>I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and > that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. > > everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or > whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people > like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and > still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move > away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel > make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people > have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never > leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or > whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the > point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually > requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people > who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is > the easy way out. big suprise there. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Regarding moving from the US to another country - You also have to prove to your host country's government that you can support yourself, get a work visa, find and secure some place to live before you move there, overcome any prejudices from employers, pay for moving all your crap to another country, figure out all the governmental systems (taxes, health care, etc.), sell your house if you have one, etc. Moving to other countries is not something you take lightly - you really should be absolutely sure it's going to improve your situation. Moving is rated as one of the largest stresses in someone's life - imagine lumping on top of that moving your *business* to another city/country with different rules and conditions?! Yikes MEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net To: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: 313@hyperreal.org 08/04/04 12:10 PMSubject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Well spoken. I'd like to add, that moving to a new city may in fact be as hard as staying where you are, as you have to start meeting _everyone_ again. There may even be a language barrier (god forbid). Who cares where you are, where you are from and where you are moving to when you are making great music? ;) :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Dennis DeSantis wrote: > Just to clarify: > > Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly > lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks > into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. > It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new > opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. > > Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are > people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left > behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Well spoken. I'd like to add, that moving to a new city may in fact be as hard as staying where you are, as you have to start meeting _everyone_ again. There may even be a language barrier (god forbid). Who cares where you are, where you are from and where you are moving to when you are making great music? ;) :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Dennis DeSantis wrote: > Just to clarify: > > Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly > lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks > into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. > It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new > opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. > > Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are > people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left > behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
agree with all that, but isn't where you live a pretty simple equation? somewhere you have friends, can support yourself, and feel good living. why should people remain in detroit if they are miserable there? from all i hear berlin is a great place to live. you can get apartments in former east berlin for under $200/mo, i mean...pretty hard to resist uhh i was just kidding about the 313 party being hyped btw. hehe haha i love all my pikey 313 friends. it would be cool to have a massive 313 party that everyone could come to but beggars cant be choosers or something like that -Original Message- From: David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 4, 2004 12:07 PM To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Hi, I live in Chicago, I just want to say I want to move to Berlin SO BAD. However, Robert, I think Mr. TDC jr has a point. I mean, in some ultimate sense, I feel like I am making Chicago a better place by sticking to my guns and trying to play out and expose people to the music that I love. It just means I have to be willing to do it for free... I basically use my crap office job (where I am right now) to pay for my expensive techno hobby. Sadly, I once made a living playing music, but I had to whore myself out playing jazz piano for Carnival Cruise Lines (bringing you such hits as Copa Cabana, In The Mood, and YMCA). However, I think there may be a deeper problem in the USA, it is not just techno but all artistic experimentation that is unsupported. I know people outside of techno also have it pretty rough here, as artistic things are just not important or supported by the general populace. Actually, anybody who gets to make a living only creating some kind of art is pretty priveleged, as there are loads of people who do have the talent and creativity but can't or don't know how to make things work financially. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:44:58 - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) changing the subject: berlin techno radio
http://www.nightline-radio.de seems to be an interview or something going on atm, but its normally very good stuff. I dont understand german but the conversation sounds silly. I'd be curious about whats going on. I need a babel fish -Joe
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
how do you think techno would have ended up if every single person interested in house moved to chicago permanently in the mid 80s instead of staying home and doing their own thing? or what if all the guys in chicago had moved to NYC to be around disco? so many great things have come from remote cultural locations simply BECAUSE people had to come up with some alternative instead of just moving away. i completely understand that point of view. so, i've actually stayed put in cities where it's clear that the music i play/promote wasn't being recieved as well as it could be. other ties to those cities have meant that i can't move. so yeah u don't give up and you and your friends keep plugging away. i's clear when you're in that situation that it isn't ever gonna really take off. if in that situation my main focus was the music (and not other things in my life) i'd have moved away. a lot of US artists are in that position at the moment and some have chosen Berlin for a variety of reasons. both approaches are cool tho, they are both born out of necessity. there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. believe me man, i know all about it. we had titonton play live with a drummer and synths in januaray and basically nobody showed up. that doesnt mean we give up, it means we have to work harder. which is fine by me. sometimes no amount of work is gonna make it happen tho. it'd be like me being into country music and wanting to start something in Manchester (UK)it just ain't gonna happen. ok bad anology mebbe but you might see where i'm coming from. robin...
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
this thread is wearing out my delete-key finger :) arguing about where to have the party and how many parties to have?? what the hell kind of a group of spoiled people have we become? :)) 4pm please. -Joe -- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor, hard wax, etc. doing all the hard work DEFINITELY isnt DIY. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >well it could be said at this point, don't knock it till you've tried >it. > >if my main focus was music i'd happily move to a city where i thought >my shti was best received. and where i could readily go out and see >other stuff i was interested in. > >why limit yourself by geography? how do you think techno would have ended up if every single person interested in house moved to chicago permanently in the mid 80s instead of staying home and doing their own thing? or what if all the guys in chicago had moved to NYC to be around disco? so many great things have come from remote cultural locations simply BECAUSE people had to come up with some alternative instead of just moving away. i know people these days arent fans of limitations (physically, or musically: everyone wants all the plug ins and 10 million tracks of audio or whatever) but limitations are almost always a great source of creative inspiration. >doing your own thing, wherever, takes effort. in the right place that >effort has more chance of reward (and i don't mean money, i mean a good >party where people dance and have fun). this is a good point, but the idea is that you can still do these things from far away. like i said, the internet is quite useful for people trying to collaborate on music, and plane travel makes touring far off lands quite possible for even the brokest people living in cities with little to no techno scene. >there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and >not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are >into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. believe me man, i know all about it. we had titonton play live with a drummer and synths in januaray and basically nobody showed up. that doesnt mean we give up, it means we have to work harder. which is fine by me. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different way from many other people. family is possibly the least replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. I think you're absolutely correct in re: the raised issue. Your family experience is completely noble and admirable. It is, however, not the only path. My relatives encouraged me from a very early age to "leave the nest", and consider my decision to move away as a source of family pride. I've moved to 4 cities on two continents since high school, and will probably continue this pattern forever - again, because this is how I was raised. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
sorry for replying that last bit to the list. it wasnt a very personal email, i didnt realise it wasnt posted to the list though. apologies if i offended fabrizio tom -- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:09:25 +0200 >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? > >fab >- Original Message - >From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:56 PM >Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. >> >> yep. >> >> >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon >> into Techno City? >> >> i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a >> different way. >> >> tomm >> >> >> andythepooh.com >> >> >> >> >> > > andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
actually my diy comment was meant for the whole list. ;) take care fab - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there > are > >people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better > left > >behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. > > this isnt meant as a personal attack on anyone > > again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different > way from many other people. family is possibly the least > replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my > grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. > i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and > father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me > to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly > bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: "Fabrizio Nahum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >what makes you think being in berlin isn't DIY?? because berlin has had people working to make it a scene since the dawn of techno music. to show up now after 15+ years of tresor, hard wax, etc. doing all the hard work DEFINITELY isnt DIY. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: "Nicole Slavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where you were born >and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same. i didnt say that they had to, did i? im just stating a sentiment that taking the hard way out is usually the right way. >Why do you find >everything that isn't your choice wrong? perhaps i have an arrogant way of putting things. i dont necessarily think theyre "wrong". "weak" is a better word. >Secondly, being a small promoter in a big city is just as hard. Believe me, >tons of my friends are constantly dodging the creditors as they get ripped >off for big bucks on venues and have to compete with the big clubs for >Detroit djs who then become unaffordable. that sucks for them. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: Dennis DeSantis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are >people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left >behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. this isnt meant as a personal attack on anyone again, it seems obvious to me that ive been raised in a different way from many other people. family is possibly the least replaceable thing someone can ever have. every week i take my grandmother out to the doctor and shopping because she cant drive. i imagine one day i will be doing the same for my mother and father. this means no selfish reason would be good enough for me to move. like i said, staying in a place thats not exactly bursting with activity is difficult, not easy. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Hi, I live in Chicago, I just want to say I want to move to Berlin SO BAD. However, Robert, I think Mr. TDC jr has a point. I mean, in some ultimate sense, I feel like I am making Chicago a better place by sticking to my guns and trying to play out and expose people to the music that I love. It just means I have to be willing to do it for free... I basically use my crap office job (where I am right now) to pay for my expensive techno hobby. Sadly, I once made a living playing music, but I had to whore myself out playing jazz piano for Carnival Cruise Lines (bringing you such hits as Copa Cabana, In The Mood, and YMCA). However, I think there may be a deeper problem in the USA, it is not just techno but all artistic experimentation that is unsupported. I know people outside of techno also have it pretty rough here, as artistic things are just not important or supported by the general populace. Actually, anybody who gets to make a living only creating some kind of art is pretty priveleged, as there are loads of people who do have the talent and creativity but can't or don't know how to make things work financially. ~David -- Original Message - Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:44:58 - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <313@hyperreal.org> That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Tom, that is ridiculous. Just because you choose to stay where you were born and where you were, doesn't mean other have to do the same. Why do you find everything that isn't your choice wrong? Secondly, being a small promoter in a big city is just as hard. Believe me, tons of my friends are constantly dodging the creditors as they get ripped off for big bucks on venues and have to compete with the big clubs for Detroit djs who then become unaffordable. - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: 04 August 2004 16:56 Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. > > yep. > > >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon > into Techno City? > > i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a > different way. > > tomm > > > andythepooh.com > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
hi tom,\ everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. well it could be said at this point, don't knock it till you've tried it. if my main focus was music i'd happily move to a city where i thought my shti was best received. and where i could readily go out and see other stuff i was interested in. why limit yourself by geography? also, it's not really a question of skipping hard work by moving to a big centre more a case of critical mass in getting things interesting. doing your own thing, wherever, takes effort. in the right place that effort has more chance of reward (and i don't mean money, i mean a good party where people dance and have fun). there is nothing more disheartening than planning a party for weeks and not getting the turnout cos the people in the place your are in are into trance, acid-techno, or whatever. robin...
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Just to clarify: Moving to Berlin doesn't mean that the agents and promoters are suddenly lining up to book you. It's not a magic pill that turns ordinary folks into success stories, and lazy Detroiters into superstars. It's just a city, like many others. It affords certain new opportunities simply by virtue of the fact that it's a new place. Furthermore, there are as many reasons to move somewhere as there are people moving - schoold, jobs, new families, old families better left behind. Not everyone is just jockeying for position. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com
Re: (313) Arne Weinberg limited 7"
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RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. yep. >So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? i know DIY isnt in style these days. i guess i was raised a different way. tomm andythepooh.com
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
That's a very precious and judgmental point of view. So people should keep it real by trying to turn Boring, Oregon into Techno City? Or go somewhere where their talents might be appreciated? -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:47 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
RE: (313) Ryan Blackman Virus ?
I have had loads of countless 313 list members in the past -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:43 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Ryan Blackman Virus ? Have any other 313'ers been receiving daily e-mail's from Ryan Blackman with an attachement virus ? Just want to make sure that it's not my computer... Chris PS - Hope your 'puter isn't too poorly Ryan # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
(313) Ryan Blackman Virus ?
Have any other 313'ers been receiving daily e-mail's from Ryan Blackman with an attachement virus ? Just want to make sure that it's not my computer... Chris PS - Hope your 'puter isn't too poorly Ryan
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. > >I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. everyone's always eager to "get to where things are hot" or whatever. this is of course another reason i really admire people like KDJ and mad mike. why can they sell records everywhere and still be satisfied in detroit when 75% of the other cats move away? these new inventions called the internet and plane travel make lots of things possible without moving. maybe these people have no attatchment to their families. i know that i could never leave my family behind just because i wanted to move to berlin or whatever other nonsense people are onto. but thats even beside the point. staying in a smaller city with a small scene actually requires work, whereas moving to a giant city filled with people who already did all the work so you can get more deejay gigs is the easy way out. big suprise there. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
f*cking hell - this whole argument is so stupid what's up with the whole anti-UK stance that a few people here seem to be taking? It's stupid, it's childish, and I would expect it only from someone who also hangs the Confederate flag above a ratty old sofa in their living room. If you want to bitch about people from other countries then talk to Bill O'Reilly or some other narrow minded assh*le. This is a email list that is available worldwide to people of cultures different from yours so get over your prejudices quick or shut the f*ck up. Nobody was ever saying that this was THE ONE, THE ONLY party. Stop the bitching and get your own thing on otherwise you're going to be still whining while others have actually done some work and are in the process of partying. anyway - anniversaries are for sentimental fools ;) MEK David Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org .com>cc: Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party 08/04/04 05:51 AM If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did that then people who want to know what is going on can be kept informed and others - well they dont have to subscribe? Just a thought Cheers BT --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > on his mind for a while > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > this inclusive. It was > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > a party in London for > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > honour of the tenth > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > make an argument that the > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > been a hell of a lot of > British participation in this list for a long time, > so it follows that those > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > the list that helps us > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > can't make the trip. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
(313) blame my boss....
if they gave me more work to do, I'd have less time to start weird tracks on bad headphones. think of this as an audio fetus :) very beta and jammed out live. weighs in at 8.3 megs http://www.emmrecords.com/~fux//fux_wonders_how_bad_this_mix_is.mp3 my music-in-progress is always stored at www.emmrecords.com/~fux/web.php will probably require a bit of listener EQ, these headphones shouldnt even be sold for audio reproduction. I hope this wastes as much of your time as it has mine (assuming you're at work :p -Joe
Re: (313) Arne Weinberg limited 7"
It's a GREAT record - Spectral Disease part 2 is especially good I think. Without doubt one of Arne's best (so far!). Grab it whilst you can!! :-) - Original Message - From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:26 PM Subject: RE: (313) Arne Weinberg limited 7" This is sounding really nice - I heard some snippets of it the other day. Possibly my favourite work of Arne's so far, and well worth pre-ordering, IMHO (didn't know there were only 300 copies!)... Brendan > -Original Message- > From: kj at technotourist dot org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 August 2004 15:28 > To: 313 Mailinglist List > Subject: (313) Arne Weinberg limited 7" > > > Check: > > There will be a strictly limited to 300 copies 7" release > available in > early september from Arne Weinberg called "Spectral disease". Only > available in selected stores and directly through the homepage. > > Check it out here: http://www.arneweinberg.de > > Pre-orders through e-mail are welcome! (not mine but Arne's e-mail of > course :)) > > > KJ > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I think you should contact Dj Bone, Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Rob Hood, Mike Grant, Stacey Pullen and whichever other Detroit folk have played/ will be playing here in the last/next couple of months and berate them for not playing Portland. Or maybe you should ask the people of Portland why they aren't playing there? I can't believe that a person who is so dedicated to supporting 313 music and who is committed to the list gets a slating for trying to celebrate these two loves. Although I actually got the impression that it was just more of an excuse to UK bash. I'll be there Brendan with the Brixtown massive. - Original Message - From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc Langsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 03 August 2004 21:48 Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > yea its for real you putz.whats wrong with this list everyone else can > complain/discuss about the cost to get to detroit but i complain and i am > a joke sorry for trying to voice my positionwhatever i guess i'll > just keep to my self while the big boys do all the talking.sorry to > interupt marc > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > > > > > hah is this actually for real !? > > > > Didnt you know theres also a UK conspiracy plan to move the next > > DEMF/Movement to canary wharf in london - the belle isle of dogs ;) > > > > peace, > > marc > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Renegade808" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:28 PM > > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > > >> DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > >> > >> sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda > >> lamei > >> live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > >> people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > >> that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > >> people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit > >> techno > >> music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money > >> to > >> get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > >> rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > >> club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > >> because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs > >> me > >> around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > >> i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > >> gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my > >> crew have > >> supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people > >> that > >> have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who > >> are > >> soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > >> rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > >> celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with > >> detroit!!! > >> ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > >> > >> > >> p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > >> NW i know you'll want to be there > >> > >> > >> michael > >> www.renegaderhythms.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to > >> > spend on a weekend trip away. > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM > >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org > >> > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > >> > > >> > > >> > Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) > >> > > >> > I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is > >> a > >> > bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 > > miles > >> > for a party. > >> > > >> > > > > > # > >> > Note: > >> > > >> > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not > >> > necessarily represent > >> > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically > >> stated. > >> > This email > >> > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the > > use > >> > of the > >> > individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received > >> > this email in > >> > error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > Thank You. > >> > > > #
Re: (313) LD/313 Party Pics
Hey, Who dat sporting the record collector tee??? thats like 5 blocks from my house. you london kids are a damn strange bunch On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 10:56 AM, KiDDy*RaVeR wrote: Here are the few ones ive taken : http://www.kiddy.fr/313 As you can see its fuzzy, not really centered, and im sorry for red eyes ! Actually i even have some short movies, cause ive messed up mind a lil bit...so ive switched my camera to the wrong mode :) Anyway, sailing all night long through the city and dancing on thoses beautiful beats made this night a magnificent party to me. Thanx everyones. - KiDDy. - Original Message - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 6:21 PM Subject: RE: (313) LD/313 Party Pics This is a better one: http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0004.JPG Thank for not putting up the close-up of my sweaty face, Brendan. I like how moody all the DJs look, cos they're having to deal with jumping needles on a boat. -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 2:25 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) LD/313 Party Pics Here are a few IDs for anyone who wants to put some names to faces: http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0012-guy_on_decks.JPG - Guy Thackeray http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0022-orang_nicole_2.JPG - Nicole Slavin and Robert Taylor http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0023-ryan_dj.JPG - Ryan Blackman http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0031-julian.JPG - Kiddyraver (aka Julian from Paris) http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty/0033-suzy_anya.JPG - Anya Stang (on the right) http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0009.JPG - errr... this is me, unfortunately http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/DSCF0012.JPG - Dan Butler Brendan -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 August 2004 15:18 To: diana potts Cc: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: (313) LD/313 Party Pics I thought about it D, like for 23 seconds and then sat back down - I'm still broken. On 3 Aug 2004, at 15:07, diana potts wrote: very nice pictures...I felt like I was there. is it possible to get some ID's on them?...I recognize Mr.Watkins and Mr.Dust...any other 313'ers that can be spotted? with my eyepatch on. d --- Toby Frith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: top marks to Mr Thackeray for some quality outfit and beardage. -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 August 2004 14:48 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) LD/313 Party Pics http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/1 http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/2 http://www.littledetroit.net/Party/3 http://www.non-stop-djs.com/imgs/boatparty http://www.xstation.co.uk/Boatparty/photos.html Cheers martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ### # # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. ### # #
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I also said I would come so there will be four of us Brendan! >-Original Message- >From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:10 PM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > >Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt short-circuiting around the world >after that one :) > >Brendan > >> -Original Message- >> From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" >> >> :P >> >> fab >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM >> Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic >aside from >> my >> > original notice about it. >> >> > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
LOL!!! you guys crack me up! (American for "laughing hysterically") This thread makes subscribing to this list for the past 10 years worth every minute of it. I cant wait until the *20th* anniversary party debates! By then, hopefully, we can hold the 20th party on the Moon. Start saving your Euros now you whiners, 10 years from now I dont want to hear about how you couldn't possibly get "AOL Commuter Space Shuttle" money together in time for the party and how it's unfair to those list members stationed on Mars or how you need advance warning to get your work replacement clone unit out of suspended animation. plan ahead people! I'm looking at *you* Miss Cyclone! (and yes, Cyclone *is* a woman. a 313 list shocker revealed!!) sean "getting my arse kicked at the party" deason on 8/4/04 7:26 AM, jurren baars at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cyclone Wehner wrote: >> >> Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite >> parties. >> > are you insane? > > flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. > now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? > ... > > _ > MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl >
RE: (313) Beatbox
I'd like to hear this guy do some DBX beats. Cheers, lrh -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:21 AM To: ThReE-oNe-ThReE Detroit Subject: (313) Beatbox Not sure if this has been posted but check it out :- http://www.columbia.edu/cu/elementary/front.htm Some top Yello and Kraftwerk beats - the DnB bit is unreal.. Cheers Martin
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Cyclone Wehner wrote: Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite parties. are you insane? flying to detroit alone will cost a small fortune. now you want all of us to throw parties on satellites? ... _ MSN Search, for accurate results! http://search.msn.nl
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Ah yes, good point! Modems were no doubt short-circuiting around the world after that one :) Brendan > -Original Message- > From: Fabrizio Nahum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" > > :P > > fab > - Original Message - > From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM > Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from > my > > original notice about it. > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Sometimes this list baffles me.. Where is the support ? People that can't make it should be supporting the ones that are taking the time to organize these events and play at them.. Ffs - if u wanna have a party, then sort one out. p -Original Message- From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 August 2004 12:03 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my original notice about it. This whole thread largely consists of complaints about the fact that no-one's set something up in Detroit, and so I think most of the contributors to it wouldn't move to a separate list to continue that discussion. I think that splitting the list up into several groups isn't really the best thing. The next step would be to have a separate list for Movement, for radio shows, for Chicago events, Berlin events, etc etc. If the party here in London was generating loads of traffic in and of itself, then fair enough, but it actually isn't. Brendan > -Original Message- > From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 11:51 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
not true..i wrote "i hope i can make it!" :P fab - Original Message - From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:02 PM Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my > original notice about it.
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
The funny thing is, the party itself has generated no traffic aside from my original notice about it. This whole thread largely consists of complaints about the fact that no-one's set something up in Detroit, and so I think most of the contributors to it wouldn't move to a separate list to continue that discussion. I think that splitting the list up into several groups isn't really the best thing. The next step would be to have a separate list for Movement, for radio shows, for Chicago events, Berlin events, etc etc. If the party here in London was generating loads of traffic in and of itself, then fair enough, but it actually isn't. Brendan > -Original Message- > From: David Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 August 2004 11:51 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > > > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >
(313) UK Solution - 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Thanks :D ense thats why I couldnt find it, its at this url people if interested: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/UK-313/ I just subscribed since I have changed my addy since then and it seems to be up and running OK Cheers BT --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe that list was in yahoo groups: > groups.yahoo.com > > :D ense. > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] David Beattie > wrote: > > > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK > (for > > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people > so > > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list > that > > was set up for the first? UK party a few years > back? > > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we > did > > that then people who want to know what is going > on > > can be kept informed and others - well they dont > have > > to subscribe? > > > > Just a thought > > > > Cheers > > BT > > > > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had > this > > > on his mind for a while > > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to > make > > > this inclusive. It was > > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, > just > > > a party in London for > > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > > honour of the tenth > > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > > make an argument that the > > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > > been a hell of a lot of > > > British participation in this list for a long > time, > > > so it follows that those > > > of us who live an ocean away would want to > celebrate > > > the list that helps us > > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of > us > > > can't make the trip. > > > > > > Tristan > > > === > > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I believe that list was in yahoo groups: groups.yahoo.com :D ense. On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, [iso-8859-1] David Beattie wrote: > If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for > whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so > much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that > was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? > Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did > that then people who want to know what is going on > can be kept informed and others - well they dont have > to subscribe? > > Just a thought > > Cheers > BT > > > --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > > on his mind for a while > > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > > this inclusive. It was > > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > > a party in London for > > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > > honour of the tenth > > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > > make an argument that the > > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > > been a hell of a lot of > > British participation in this list for a long time, > > so it follows that those > > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > > the list that helps us > > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > > can't make the trip. > > > > Tristan > > === > > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
If the idea of a party being organised in the UK (for whatever reason) is irrationally annoying people so much perhaps we should resurrect the UK-313 list that was set up for the first? UK party a few years back? Ive looked but cant find any info on it, but if we did that then people who want to know what is going on can be kept informed and others - well they dont have to subscribe? Just a thought Cheers BT --- Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this > on his mind for a while > and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make > this inclusive. It was > *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just > a party in London for > those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in > honour of the tenth > anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could > make an argument that the > party should be up there. Let's face it, there's > been a hell of a lot of > British participation in this list for a long time, > so it follows that those > of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate > the list that helps us > participate in Detroit's music when so many of us > can't make the trip. > > Tristan > === > http://www.phonopsia.co.uk > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
I have to say that is an enormous crock of sh!t. I hope you are not suggesting that no-one should ever move and that their talent belongs to the place they were born, not to them. -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:10 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party -- Original Message -- From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts >detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how >many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um >yeah. sell outs, each and every one of them. no one has any allegiance to where theyre from anymore. suckers. pgh 4 life tom andythepooh.com # Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. #
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Being born in a stable does not make one a horse - Arthur Wellesley - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 0:10 am Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > -- Original Message -- > From: diana potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >it seems this has become a battle of 'who hearts > >detroit TECHNO more' so then...lets talk about how > >many other detroit techno stars live in europe now. um > >yeah. > > sell outs, each and every one of them. no one has any allegiance > to where theyre from anymore. suckers. > > pgh 4 life > > tom > > > andythepooh.com > > > > >
(313) Beatbox
Not sure if this has been posted but check it out :- http://www.columbia.edu/cu/elementary/front.htm Some top Yello and Kraftwerk beats - the DnB bit is unreal.. Cheers Martin
Re: (313) octave one
Did anyone go to see them at Fabric this Saturday? Cheers Martin
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: > -- Original Message -- > london is for hipsters. > > tom > > > andythepooh.com git the hell on then, sport. derek.
(313) Help, please
Hello again, I was addicted to this list a few years ago, but have been gone for awhile. Likewise, being a poor graduate student, I have not had the $$$ to acquire new music, or the time to keep up with what's new & good. But things are looking up! I'm sure you're tired of people asking you this, so please forgive me, but what's new & fresh in the world of Detroit music that I missed in the past couple of years? Previous (and current) Detroit loves of mine have been Carl Craig, UR, Recloose, Mills, Drexciya, Richie Hawtin, etc. Honestly I'm not too picky, and any suggestions you might have are greatly appreciated. Saw Kenny Larkin a couple of weeks ago--smokin'. Thanks, Lauren
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Sex Party
I smell a Sextronica revival in our future! how retro chic! :^) sean on 8/3/04 9:20 PM, David Gillies at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > jason kenjar wrote: >>> >>> i think this just furthers my notion that all >>> stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it >>> out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the >>> sexual tension overwith already and just go for it. >> >> Why not have both at the same time!! Call 319-721-5364 for a good time! >> Operator is standing by (ladies only) > > Perhaps it could also be the 313 Sextronica party? >
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
- Original Message - From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phonopsia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party > this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! Who needs hype when there's alcahol? Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Sex Party
I'm so glad my warped mind is inspiring some festive creativity.;) np:gold frap: strict machine. --- David Gillies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jason kenjar wrote: > >> > >> i think this just furthers my notion that all > >> stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have > it > >> out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get > the > >> sexual tension overwith already and just go for > it. > > > > Why not have both at the same time!! Call > 319-721-5364 for a good time! > > Operator is standing by (ladies only) > > Perhaps it could also be the 313 Sextronica party? > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
-- Original Message -- From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! london is for hipsters. tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) Claude Young
-- Original Message -- From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Yeah and lest we forget Ma$e who condemned rap in his book as demonic... >well, guess who's back. No shiny suits this time though. ;) you know aint nothing changed but the limp tom andythepooh.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
this party is so hyped up it makes me wanna puke! -Original Message- From: Phonopsia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 3, 2004 5:17 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party I can understand the sentiment, but Brendan had this on his mind for a while and tried (is trying???) a number of ways to make this inclusive. It was *never* meant to be an exclusive London party, just a party in London for those on [313] who *can* make it to this one, in honour of the tenth anniversary. Similarly, people in Scotland could make an argument that the party should be up there. Let's face it, there's been a hell of a lot of British participation in this list for a long time, so it follows that those of us who live an ocean away would want to celebrate the list that helps us participate in Detroit's music when so many of us can't make the trip. Tristan === http://www.phonopsia.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Sex Party
jason kenjar wrote: i think this just furthers my notion that all stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the sexual tension overwith already and just go for it. Why not have both at the same time!! Call 319-721-5364 for a good time! Operator is standing by (ladies only) Perhaps it could also be the 313 Sextronica party?
Re: (313) Claude Young
Yeah and lest we forget Ma$e who condemned rap in his book as demonic... well, guess who's back. No shiny suits this time though. ;) > Lets not forget: Too Short who has made countless "last albums" > and especially Mr. Tupac who doesnt even let the *ultimate* retirement keep > him out of the music game :^) > > on 8/3/04 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> retirements from music are never retirements from music. >> >> TP, larry heard, jay-z >> >> no one stays gone >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Garrett wrote: >> >>> bizarre. and unfortunate.. for us at least. >>> i suppose the 2 questions are why? and, what'll he do instead? >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2004, at 6:41 AM, matrix313 wrote: >>> from www.claudeyoung.de guestbook: "Well friends, after some very long night's thinking this over I have decided to take some time out of the music world for a while. This was not an easy decision and I want to say thanks to all of you for your support over the past years. There is a strong possibility 2004 might be my last year involved in electronic music so if you get the chance to come to any of the shows in the remainder of 2004 please come and enjoy yourselves. Again... Thanks for all your support and I'll be in touch again soon. Claude" Can anyone confirm this or is it merely a cruel hoax??? sean deason >>> >>> >> >
Re: (313) octave one
I havent had the chance to see RNG live, but their segment in mills DVD was hot as hell. It was in the purpose maker mix, far and away my favorite set jeff spun on the DVD. merci! bravo! On Tuesday, August 3, 2004, at 06:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously rocked it on Saturday at fabric, Seen RNG a couple times but never octave one; and it was superb. Convinced some friends who had never heard of them to come along and they where completely blown away. Obviously when they played Blackwater they all said "they made this? hh " I just jumped around like a drunken muppet with a large grin on my face. Cracking Legs started to turn to led half way through Rolando's set but still really enjoyed it. But I'm sure it only just about makes up for not going to the boat party. Back in London Djing in Islington on the 28th then going to the www.tdkcrosscentral.co.uk stuff on Sunday PAPERCLIP PEEPZ !!! Good month ahead! Cheers Max
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Sex Party
i think this just furthers my notion that all stateside and UK subscribers just need to 1.have it out with a good round of mud wrestling or 2.get the sexual tension overwith already and just go for it. Why not have both at the same time!! Call 319-721-5364 for a good time! Operator is standing by (ladies only)
(313) Wildpitch Mix for download
Following last weeks discussion of wildpitch - i've put a mix of wildpitch
up at my site www.jbucknell.com [48min 48mb 141kbps mp3]
It's mainly instrumental, more underground wildpitch (no' generate power'
or 'atom bomb'). it's not meant as a survey of the sound, just some of my
favourite wildpitch tracks.
the track listing is stuck on my new ipod (i don't know how to use it
properly as hard disk).
from memory, it starts with a detroit area track track - dance fever 'out
on the dance floor' (definitive), then spank spank on power music, then a
host of roy davis/spanky/pierre stuff on strictly rhythm and two mike dunn
tracks on trax ('flush the toilet' and 'deep space 9'), and finishes with
'space signals' from the phuture 303 double pack.
hope you like it. all hail to the chief - dj pierre.
james
www.jbucknell.com
Re: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
Look dear friends, the solution is really obvious. You have satellite parties. > DELETE NOW IF YOU DON'T WANNA HERE THIS > > sorry to chime in late butto tell you ther truth it is kinda lamei > live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno > music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to > get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the > rest of the world.i still have'nt got to go to hardwax or the lost > club or many other cool clubs/places having to do with detroit music > because of the fact that its expensive to get to detroit it costs me > around 500-600 dollars unless i drive 38 hours and gas aint cheep... so > i'd say the playing field is even from where i siti know that its > gonna happen in the uk cause thats all people in england seem to give a > [EMAIL PROTECTED] about is england, so i am kinda bummed..me and my crew > have > supported detroit ALOT and it would be cool to meet some other people that > have as well but i guess not this time.it figure's that people who are > soo down with detroit won't even go there.anyway sorry for the > rant but i have strong feeling about this.hey i got an idea lets > celebrate detroit techno in a place that has nothing to do with detroit!!! > ok i'm donenow everyone can attack me > > > p.s fred hit me up i got some info on an event thats happening up in the > NW i know you'll want to be there > > > michael > www.renegaderhythms.com > > > > > >> It's not selfish - it's about cost - not everyone has a spare £600 to >> spend on a weekend trip away. >> -Original Message- >> From: Klaas-Jan Jongsma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:53 PM >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party >> >> >> Well we travelled 4000 miles for 5 years of [313] :) >> >> I don't think it really matters if it will be september or not. It is a >> bit selfish (i say a bit) to say that you don't want to travelo 4000 miles >> for a party. >> >> > # > >> Note: >> >> Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not >> necessarily represent >> those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. >> This email >> and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use >> of the >> individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received >> this email in >> error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Thank You. >> > # > >> >>
RE: (313) 313 Tenth Anniversary Party
You have your chance to meet a great majority of the 313 list every May in Detroit! On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Renegade808 wrote: > live in portland oregon, and if i wanted to try to come connect with 313 > people i would have to spend ahhh i'd say around 1500 dollars so how is > that for expensive (i guess it only matters if its expensive for the > people in the UK).i think that a list that is about detroit techno > music should have the party in detroitthe fact that it costs money to > get there, all i can say is too badcause thats what happens to the
